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There's no discharge in the war!

File: 8551a5d4fec4b4c⋯.jpg (79.18 KB, 1192x335, 1192:335, 01.jpg)

c0bd77 No.579347

>M4 is much more accurate than AK!

>1 MOA!

>matters much!

>During the evaluation, Security Forces found that their shooters were accurate within 20 MOA of targets using the current M4 and M68 Close Combat Optic configuration. This measurement was based on the average capability of the shooters and not just the capability of the firearm, optic, and ammunition. With an IMR-Blue configured carbine, that improved to 3.7 MOA.

>People are misunderstanding the 20 MOA thing. It is not a 20 MOA shooter group. It is-

>M4 with RAS and 2.5-10x magnified optic using MK262 MOD 1. Zeroed neutrally without any outside influence on the handguard. 1×10 round groups fired at 100m and 200m for baseline. Then the same repeated from 9 different positions=

>Prone Mag monopod

>Prone Sandbagged

>Prone with sling

>Prone with bipod

>Prone with handguard resting on wood

>Prone with guard resting on metal

>Prone using VFG

>Kneeling using barricad (rifle supported in rear)

>Prone with light and laser attached

>Each position was measured and plotted on every target. Target was an NRA B-8 bull overlaid on a standard E-Type. When complete the targets from an unfloated M4 averaged over 20moa for all shots. For an optimized M4 (FF stiff handguard, Geissele SSF, etc) the average was 3.7moa.

>The testing was done with 20 shooters from multiple branches. Shooters ranged from “average” infantry skill to high master Service Rifle competitors and top level 3-gunners.

7bd2f6 No.579369

>>579347

>The testing was done with 20 shooters from multiple branches


c271cc No.579377

File: 4f7a321236e208e⋯.png (429.33 KB, 540x539, 540:539, holy shit.png)

Woah, you mean that the guns are more accurate than the people shooting them?????? Holy shit OP, who would have guessed!!! Two rifles with similar ballistics only have a slight MOA difference when people are shooting them????!!!

W O A H


c271cc No.579378

Also OP you could take the most accurate rifle in the entire planet and put it up against an AK using the same optics and the difference in accuracy at 200m would be pretty much zero because unless you're taking shots at 800+ meters then your weapon is most certainly way more accurate than you are. If you wanted to taste the actual accuracy of these two weapons then you would fire them from a locked position through an automatic mechanism, at ranges of 400+ meters in enclosed environments with controlled levels of temperature and humidity.

TL;DR you're a faggot


826ec8 No.579620

File: 26b90ea4a26dc97⋯.jpg (144.22 KB, 1024x768, 4:3, 30-Round-Clip.jpg)

Gratz on figuring out guns are more accurate than shooters, this is why people that can shoot really well don't tend to care about inherent accuracy of a gun until 500+ yards.

The only guns where MOA matters in the military is DMRs and HMGs.


45fef5 No.579647

>>579620

If you strip the gun of crap like handguard rigidly attached to the barrel, then you can achieve excellent accuracies with otherwise shittiest of rifles. Boolit comes directly forward out of the barrel, and during a shot the barrel will flex, so gun accuracy is just down to getting the barrel to flex the same way every time. Well, that, and rigid coupling between the barrel and the scope.


c0bd77 No.579662

>>579620

>>579377

Did you even read the text? Shooters were the same gun changed. Basic M4 shoots 20 MOA (lol) improved 3.7 MOA. With the same shooters.


c271cc No.579685

>>579662

WOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH THE SHOOTERS ARE HUMAN GARBAGE THAT DOESN'T AIM AS GOOD AS THE RIFLE ITSELF CAN SHOOT AND WHEN USING TWO DIFFERENT RIFLES THEY SHOOT LESS EFFECTIVELY HOLY SHIT MANG M4 ETERNALLY BTFO


c271cc No.579686

>>579662

You're a fucking idiot


054934 No.579752

>>579347

nice sources you have there




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