/k/ - Weapons

>>574616

>why are illegal things illegal.

Reported for being a retard.

Also laser safety filters are cheap as fuck.

Also wtf

>Stealth: no sound, no visible light, no obvious signs of operations, especially true against enemies without the technology / equipment to detect IR light.

Yeah except the guys screaming their asses off (and if they're armed popping off rounds) because you just melted their eyes.

>>574616

>"like, why arent, like, they not using laser tag guns, XD"

Stop using imageboards. I'm sure you get bullied enough at school.

>>574626

>muh warcrimes

Just make sure you don't lose your superpower status, and you can use all the uranium rounds you want.

>>574616

Just wear IR/UV protection goggles, or throw a fog grenade, or use IR/UV guided weapons that home in on the source of the laser and will eliminate whoever holds the weapon.

Also: add a patch of cheap IR/UV sensors to your helmet, and make them vibrate as soon as a very strong UV/IR source is directed at them (stronger than the sun would be necessary for blinding someone in a reasonable amount of time). You now know that someone is shooting lasers at you, and possibly also from where, based on observing who got "hit" first.

It's too easy to circumvent this "innovation".

>>574760

Goat herders dont have that

>>574626

>warcrimes

I never understood why one should ever care about this.

What will they do? Call me bad names in their cool kids secret round table discussion? Oh no I'm so scared, they will call us war criminals on wikipedia, noooo

They can't do shit. I'll mass-execute as many Turks and children as I want. Europe can go fuck itself for all I care.

>>574760

>or use IR/UV guided weapons that home in on the source of the laser and will eliminate whoever holds the weapon.

That would only work if the laser was visible from all directions besides the bore's line of sight, which would defeat the point of a laser in the first place. There's a reason aircraft with laser guided weapons aren't immediately detected by say ground based, laser tracked AA systems, after all.

>>574762

Because chances are you aren't going to win against the world, and if you bother enough people, they are either going to "no quarter" you, or after the war is done, you become an island, excluded by all else.

Long term, it isn't worth it, when you can just launch endless missiles etc.

>>574762

>I never understood why one should ever care about this.

The modern state enacts war to enforce its will upon other territories, war is just another from of politics.

Because of this you have wars that have another goals than just kill the other side and thus committing atrocities can actually prevent you from reaching that goal.

>>574762

War crimes only matter if you lose.

>>574616

>>574618

>>574626

>Why are there no laser blinding weapons?

Because you don't know shit.

Standard gear of every Soviet mech infantry company since 70s

http://www.npovk.ru/optiko-e-lektronnye-sredstva-upravleniya-vooruzheniem_0_39.html

Current Russian TOE, lets just say it is classified

>>574760

Defending against high power laser (several watts and above range) is not that easy. That sort of power is damaging not for only for eyes but for optical deceives themselves. It can literally melt cross-hairs in the scopes. Optical filters are in danger of melting/evaporating and therefore warping and bubbling optical glass too.

Also you need to know exact wavelength to design filters, if your intelligence fails to deliver proper information say bye-bye to your eyes. Heavy sophisticated laser systems like soviet 1K17 project used simultaneous multiply wave length attack, such systems have no counters as filter blocking so many wavelength at once would be just nontransparent.

>>574816

> That leaves you with visual range lasers, like ruby, helium-neon and pure argon, all of which easily degrade in the atmosphere and will reveal your position in high humidity air or dust storm.

It is a weak side inside indeed. But all these systems are already easily detectable. They use lidars to detect optical devices and lidars need to use the wavelength these optics are transparent and can focus. Usually lidar uses near IR to be invisible for naked eye but is very delectable by light intensification night vision (and any consumer camera with removed IR filter like taliban does to spot burger's laser pointers). Works one time per tube :^) though.

So using sophisticated laser attack is not an issue for detection.

>Also the problem with lasers is that they're highly specific. Using nanoparticles your enemy could make a set of protective goggles that degrade every known laser source, while letting all other light through

Laser filters don't like that they also cut portion of spectrum around target wavelength. Also today practical widely tunable lasers exist.

>>574616

1. It's not effective.

2. It's a particularly dick thing to do to someone.

3. You'd have to worry about people on both sides who would take particular offence to it, either the enemy killing you even if you surrender (Snipers and flamethrower men experience(d) this a lot) or an ally unfriendly firing you.

>>574799

That's not a blinding weapon, that's an optical jammer, it fucks with other laser emitters and IR lenses upon detection.

I guess it could be used as one, but since it's heavily computerized I'm not entirely sure you can manually aim it at soldiers.

>>574816

>>574804

>Optical filters are in danger of melting/evaporating and therefore warping and bubbling optical glass too.

If it melts polycarbonate, it melt flesh… you're not describing a something that will simply damage the hypersensitive light receptors of the human eye…

>>574753

>This

http://www.hafniumisomer.org/cqeseg3.htm

Gamma lasers are the only direct energy weapon concept that can match ballistic weapons.

>>575094

If they even live up to half of their hype then they're going to be pretty awesome.

I heard through the grapevine that the chinks have got or developed idk automated blinding turrets that won't friendly fire. Seems pretty easily avoided though, as >>574619 says. Sorry op, hot lead is still king.

>Why are there no laser blinding weapons?

>inb4 1998 Protocol on Blinding Laser Weapons

But that is exactly why. Sure we are all developing illegal shit like that but we aren't ever going to reveal or use it until the next time we go full retard killing each other.

Just wait until the playtime proxy war shit is over fam.

>>574762

War crimes are a political excuse to invade you, or start a war. That's why America can break war crimes all the time and no one calls them on it. That's why NATO can launch a hundred missiles at Syria, even without an investigation, even considering its not a "war" it's a police action against terrorists. Technically Assad should be able to use hollowpoint and frangible bullets, the same way America uses them in policing.

Another reason for war crimes is, in a situation where two sides are fighting, you can accuse one of them of war crimes, to help the side you're friends with. This is why almost every war someone gets accused of war crimes, even if none take place. Example is the Yugoslav civil war… it was a civil war which doesn't fall under war crimes legislation, yet Serbs got buttfucked with war crimes nonsense so hard their country is almost erased from history.

The point of politics consists of a skilled politician picking the right time and place; to invoke the right sentence or phrase; in the correct way; to turn public opinion one way or another. The term "war crimes" is a phrase that makes the public hate the side accused of it, as is racism, corruption, regime, and so on. Positive terms would be free, open, transparent, democracy even though its the worst system of government and so on. You can also put together a sentence or a speech to invoke a more complex reaction. The more evolved form of politics involves inprinting the public with such trigger terms.

>>574762

That's the spirit Stefanis Angelos.

>>>574799

>That's not a blinding weapon, that's an optical jammer, it fucks with other laser emitters and IR lenses upon detection.

Of course it is a """" jammer"""", blinding weapons are banned after all :^). For """"jamming"""" it uses 30 watts laser. You should check laser safety regulations about health hazards of lasers in such power range.

>I'm not entirely sure you can manually aim it at soldiers.

It automatically detects and optionally attacks optical devices in its field of view. Naked eye is not detectable. But eyes looking through scopes are.

>If it melts polycarbonate, it melt flesh

It does. 30 watts is enough to make eyeballs boil. Why do soviets needed such power if 1000 less powerful laser causes permanent blindness already? Because fuck you why. Such brute force makes countermeasures less effective.

>>575128

>Automated

>No failures or misidentification

>made in China

Pick none.

>>574762

Make sure you let /k/ know when you're hiring Varangians again.

>>574762

>They can't do shit.

Actually they can. The sole reason durkey gets away this that shit is because those (((they))) you mention see the roach-den as a major fulcrum for Europe's destruction and because they hold some extreme historical grudges against us, fuck's sake (((their))) greatest religious holiday celebrates the massacre of Syrian Greeks.

>>574616

Every Chinese tank has a laser dazzler for use against helicopters, they get away with this by claiming it "interferes with infrared detection" (bullshit, it's a laser in the visible spectrum).