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There's no discharge in the war!

File: 940ced5ed052ee3⋯.jpg (201.95 KB, 1280x853, 1280:853, 1280px-USNS_Mercy_off_Jolo.jpg)

File: 3c08c7d47439b12⋯.jpg (215.87 KB, 1440x810, 16:9, Small hospital ship.jpg)

09c579 No.573553

USN is going to decomish one of their only two hospital ships USNS Mercy, and might remove both from service eventually. This is going to increase death rate tenfold because those two ships were there for every invasion in the past, in charge of emergency surgery, stabilizing soldiers enough so they can be airlifted to Germany (landstuhl) to save their life. Their hull is still solid, nothing about them is out of date.

To justify this, they lied and said large mobile bases like USNS Puller would be converted into hospital bases… and most people who follow this stuff were fine with it. It's a huge expense but at least no soldiers will die. However we just realized we got Jewed! USNS Mercy is being removed is to make LCS-like small hospital boats (image 2). Problem is such ships aren't large or stable enough to perform surgery on, nor do they have enough helicopter landing spots to be used correctly, nor do they have enough space for five operating halls, 1000 bed capacity, or enough blood and other medical storage to support an army.

3cc254 No.573555

>>573553

>tiem

Came here to bully you for this but also

>Osprey landing on a hospital ship

Well at least when they crash they aren't too far from medical facilities.


09c579 No.573557

>>573555 wow so doge le get

longcat is long


868184 No.573559

File: 6f9647c071737d2⋯.jpg (22.36 KB, 400x400, 1:1, 1423640624931.jpg)

>US army has to operate thousands of attack helicopters because the airforce won't provide CAS

>US army will have to operate bolo-sized, landcruiser hospitals because the navy won't provide hospital ships


19f56a No.573561

>>573553

Retiring any kind of specialist equipment before the successor is there and tested is always retarded.

I though they wanted to replace them by two dedicated Wasp-class?


d9c5c7 No.573562

File: 08f3c405deb5b5c⋯.png (546.17 KB, 820x634, 410:317, ClipboardImage.png)

>>573561

But what's worse, retiring equipment without a successor, or retiring equipment only to replace it with an even worse successor?


5635ad No.573564

>>573559

Separate service arms was a mistake. What would be the problem if every regiment or even company had its own support (fire, aircraft, logistics, air and sea transport, intelligence etc.)?


d90316 No.573571

File: 805d1da5924808c⋯.png (100.62 KB, 1521x790, 1521:790, fffddfg.png)

nice people


15728a No.573572

>>573553

Ok so it's going to be put up for auction to scrapyards, so which scrapyard do you think will get her, if it's somewhere shitty do you think we could steal it? what even would be the minimum skeleton /k/rew for a ship of that tonnage? it's time guys, the happening aint coming to europe so i need to make a happening of my own.


868184 No.573573

>>573571

Go back to reddit and stay there you dumb faggot.


5eb3f2 No.573576

>>573564

To a certain point it's nice to specialize, but then again there's no reason you can't have specialization within a larger group. Just split everything into either Army or Navy and call it good.


7bc830 No.573582

File: d8b37704ff989b2⋯.png (272.83 KB, 538x538, 1:1, 1416998682442.png)

>>573572

>the happening

>by hospital ship

You can already buy tanks legally, do that instead.


64afb6 No.573592

>>573571

>reddit

Reported


09c579 No.573607

>>573564

Separate service arms is one thing, giving every regiment their own navy and air force is a completely different thing.


09c579 No.573610

>>573571

>expecting anything out of 14 year olds on reddit

More the fool you.

My reasoning for the number: There are only two hospital ships and they alternate dealing with all wounds during a US invasion, so any wound that can't wait a day or so for a real hospital in Germany is going to result in death. Iraq had about 4,000 dead and 35,000 critically wounded, ergo almost ten times more dead.


5635ad No.573615

>>573607

Split the existing air and naval assets and personnel among the various regiments and turn them into borderline self sufficient armies in their own right.


ad9e9d No.573620

>>573615

Or assign every land unit its own ship to provide transportation and fire support.


19f56a No.573622

>>573562

>But what's worse

Definitely retiring equipment without a successor.

Losing the capacity entirely is way worse than losing part of it.

And while a dedicated Wasp would likely lose some hospital space (but not necessarily much that depends how big the plane hangar is) compare to them you could still have a very potent NATO Class III field hospital (which a regular Wasp-class already has, with about half the capacity of a Mercy-class, so one with a bigger hospital might do 75%) that can move fast, has plenty of ways to get the injured in, with possibly it's own CASEVAC medicalized air/sea transport fleet reducing the strain on army CASEVAC (regular armed and armored CASEVAC fly from battlefield to level II field hospital, white unarmed modified with medical gear and medics fly from FH to the ship) and being still a Wasp you could fit it with a proper set of self-defense weapons (because no one respect the red cross these days especially not the mudslimes. Vulnerability has always been a big concern of the Mercy-class).


b0d1bd No.573624

File: 1d6b06343e2b418⋯.jpg (22.98 KB, 330x309, 110:103, no it's fucked.jpg)

>>573553

Would writing to the White house and local senators help or is the situation jewed beyond repair?


5635ad No.573625

>>573620

That would work, if possible give Squadron strength CAS to every company (probably not realistic, but a man can dream), with Air Superiority attached at the Regimental or Battalion level. Whatever precise division of aircraft and ships though the point would be to make them organic components; primarily to help cut down on internal bullshit and procurement fuckery, and hopefully creating a more effective and synergistic armed force designed to move faster and with less hassle. You could also cut a lot of redundant spending by combining support units, admin, etc.


a568eb No.573692

File: 8f495e245987360⋯.jpg (33.36 KB, 512x384, 4:3, oh child.jpg)

>>573624

>Would writing to the White house and local senators help or is the situation jewed beyond repair?

The White House is jewed beyond repair.

Every government is.


745055 No.573711

Wouldn't building a Wasp Class for red cross duty be the right route with how you could deploy those hovercraft?


09c579 No.573716

>>573624

This is still in the formation phase, the smaller hospital ship is in the napkin design stage, the Mercy hasn't been cut up for parts yet. If you have enough political punch you could probably nip it in the bud.

>>573711

The Mercy is a converted cargo ship, it cost a few hundred million to make, Wasp costs 1.5 billion. Also a Wasp only has 1/3 of the volume of a Mercy, so really you're paying 20 times more for the same capability.


745055 No.573719

>>573716

so what do you recommend?


09c579 No.573722

>>573719

If there's really a need for a new hull, convert a cargo ship again. It's the only thing with enough draught and volume for the job.

If you're talking political solution, send letters to Huntington Ingalls, get them to lobby to get the contract for the new Mercy based on a cargo ship hull.


745055 No.573723

File: 5d8cd4db14b53c1⋯.png (1.69 MB, 1546x768, 773:384, dfgfdgfgf.png)

>>573722

You know… You might be onto something..


f3be41 No.573725

>>573723

>long-tern investment

A+


5b62d5 No.573730

>>573716

>The Mercy is a converted cargo ship

Do they have to make sure it never joins formation with any of their other ships, to make sure it doesn't cause more casualties than it helps?

And isn't it a war crime to disguise such a powerful weapon as a medical facility?


961aa2 No.573751

>>573571

Take a hike, shoo, scram. Your kind is not welcome here.




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