/k/ - Weapons

If they put a stock on it and a long barrel you bet your ass I will be all over this shit.

>>568830

Sent the sales guy a question as to auscunt availability. Fingers crossed for the rifle version if any.

>>568837

What are the laws dor handguns in Australia?

>>568855

Handguns require a whole bunch of retarded stuff like minimum participation in competitions PER HANDGUN.

Revolver rifles don't need anything except your standard assfuck rifle license.

>Avoid this for years thinking of it as a meme

>Get my license and come across information on these guns

>Literally everything I always wanted in a revolver….. but $6k

>Now only $2.5K

>Planning on dropping $2k+ on a new computer to run Revit/Video games

>Car needs body work before rust starts to spread(might be up to $2k)

>Still need $2k for spooky black gun if salt weapon ban passes

This will stay on the market for years… Right?

Did they fix the problems with the .44, like the gun being too hard on the wood grips?

>>568820

That's what the Grifone is. It's the Unica 6 in rifle format. You could do a conversion kit and swap back and forth, but that would probably involve tax stamps based on what it was manufactured as. Might be able to get away with an SBR tax stamp no matter what, but I dunno - but that's US laws, I don't know what you poor bastards would have to go through for something that can be a revolving rifle or a handgun.

>>568883

>This will stay on the market for years… Right?

>Did they fix the problems with the .44, like the gun being too hard on the wood grips?

Unknown to both. I'm going to drop my notions of an AK purchase and save like mad for when it does come out. If it's not stateside in 6 months I might buy a WASR, but I intend to keep a $2500 reserve so I can buy immediately when they hit, regardless of caliber.

>>568800

This gun was my first /k/ meme, back in 2005. It was a demotivational with its name and said to never ask about it again. Apparently it was used in a popular anime at the time and weebs kept showing up to ask about it. So this is kind of nostalgic, in a strange way.

How much is that in Ameribux? This is relevant to my interests. Can I get a customized grip for it?

>>568953

Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex. It's very good even if you don't like anime and are therefore a huge faggot who likes western slags instead of pure waifus.

I just jizzed in me pants.

>>568964

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

>>568951

>18 inches barrel

>when all commercial .357 loads reach peak performance at 16 inches with more than acceptable results out of 12 inchers

I'd rather get one with an 8'' barrel and make a folding stock to backpack with it. The price is reasonable if it works, I hope they are willing to export.

>>568966

You get some decent results out out 16-20 inch carbines, obv higher for the 20 inch, 2000 fps for a 125gr slug is easily doable in 20" with 19gr w296 equivalent.

Elmer keith's 358429 in it's last rendition by arsenal is much better though, I am the same autist who wrote the posts about pcc advantages too

Sorry for my ignorance, but makes it that special?

>>568966

>>568975

wait are you niggers saying this thing has a 16" barrel and slings 357?

I never knew I needed this machine until now.

>>569001

There is an 18 inches version with a stock >>568944. Apparently it also went back into production along with the standard Unica 6.

>>568953

>>568958

Funny enough, the gun Togusa uses in SAC isn't a Unica, it's a 2006M.

>>569001

And .44 magnum, and .454 Casull, although I don't know which ones are going back into production.

>>568992

its a self-cocking ("automatic") revolver

>>569004

If .454 goes into production and hits here in the grifone I will shitpost about it endlessly.

What's it going to take to get them to make an autorevolver rifle in a proper rifle caliber with at least 8-10 shots per reload? Mateba is apparently entering the rifle market, but the Grifone is basically a revolving PCC.

My dick diamonds, I never thought I'd be able to own one for less than $6k.

I'll be putting my student loans to good use.

>>568800 (checked)

What about .357?

>1999€

How much for orginal?

Fuck I want this, but that price tag hurts my wallet.

So when will Sphinx 3000 pistol manufacturing restart then?

>ITT: retards fawning over a meme gun

>>569151

Originals, which will be used, tend to go for upwards of $4k. Status of the .357 is unknown as far as I know, but it's listed on the website.

I was just thinking how awesome it would be to have a Mateba-like shotgun 🤔.

Maybe 16 gauge to keep a reasonable cylender size/ammo capacity. A shame that the bullpup shotgun revolver never made it out of shotshow-hyped-product stage. It seemed like a sound concept.

>>569301

Might be a bit of an issue with how the gun cycles. Long recoil has been done in shotguns since they started loading themselves so it may be possible.

Just a lot of mass for the guide rails. And unless you can see through the wheel or somehow spin the whole operating system upside down, you will have a serious height over bore issue with the sites.

>>568800

I am very, very tempted to buy one.

I can't really afford it.

But, I really want to get one, so I think I'll take the loss.

Which kind should I get?

44, or 357? 357 seems a load cheaper.

>>569314

Of course I wouldn't connect the barrel to the 6 o'clock position, the bore-over-sight would be huge. I meant the auto loading part of the mateba.

A cylinder would be a good way to keep the overall length short without sacrifying too much ammo capacity or going mag fed. Since shotgun shells are -relatively- low pressure, it should be possible to cut down weight on the cylinder.

>>569400

Japanon, is it even possible to get a Mateba legally in japan?

>>569330

Both are wonderful cartridges. I mean if you're a handloader they can be loaded for dirt cheap. Some ausfriend here had a load for .44mag that was 10c a round.

>>569423

That'd be .357, which is a 158 gr pill sitting on top of 3gr AS30 (clays). Cheapest cast lead load I can make worth a shit is a 240gr pill on top of 12gr AP100 for 20c.

>>569424

>cheapest 44 mag load

I need to proof read

>>569422

I'm Argie, we can import (it is a chore, but it is possible). I can also add stocks to anything without any paper work, all legal.

If I were to get the long barrel, it should be as an aftermarket part, then I can add the stock on my own (probably get one made). I'd love a shorter one though, 18 inches is simple not practical for innawooding+plinking. The final price for me (after shipping, paper work and taxes) would be around 5000-6000 ameribucks.

Also, .44 is border line unobtainable and crazy expensive, only .357 would be ok (thanks to local fudds keeping the round relevant with their shitty revolvers). For what I understand, it can fire .38 special reliably with a simple change of recoil spring, another nice bonus to caliber.

>>569423

I can't afford handloading, but 44 is some 50c a round, it looked like. Expensive.

>>569448

God fucking dammit! When does your training in Japan end, so we can finally tell you from the legitimate Jap?

>>569450

Such is life. There are the hand lee loaders for those who can't afford the press and such.

>>569424

After conversion I'm about 5c off.

>>569452

Two more weeks

They might send me elsewhere next year, could be Texas or Japan again (If the latter, it would be for 1 year).

>>569462

Is that an Italian nose? :^)

>>569465

Then I'll probably lament the fact that I can't tell the Japargie from the other argie(s). :^)

>>569465

100% Roman nose. You can trust me barbar..i mean fellow citizen.

>>569476

Let's be honest, here. Romans are the real jews.

>>569450

Lee loaders in 44 mag will set you back 40 burgers for an all in one kit. You can afford it, you are just a lazy faggot.

When will the Sphinx 3000 pistols be manufactured again?

>>569602

Haven't heard of Lee loaders until now. Might have to look in to it.

So what's your opinion, then?

44, or 357?

>>569760

If you're just going to own one wheelgun, 44 mag. You can do everything .357 mag can do and more- consider that the low end of 44 mag is a 180gr bullet from a 16 inch bbl at 2100fps, versus a 170gr hard-cast keith bullet snapping out at 1500fps for a hot load. .357's chief advantage versus 44 mag is that it has the ability to use exactly fuck-all powder (3 grains of the fastest shotgun powder you can get your hands on is a MAXIMUM LOAD for .38spcl under a 158gr bullet) so that it's cheap af to feed, 10c as I said excluding if you value your labour at minimum wage including casting time per round.

>>569766

10c a round is very tempting, honestly. But, then, if I'm spending that much on a pistol, I might as well not be a massive cheapskate about feeding it.

Especially when I don't shoot that often, overall.

How much more we really talking, generally speaking, with 44?

Looking online, cheapest price-per-round for it I found was some 50c a round. Whereas, 357 is closer to 30, with 38spcl lower than that.

This is more or less my issue, at the moment, with deciding.

357 seems to be half the cost to feed.

>>568883

>Car needs body work before rust starts to spread(might be up to $2k)

Just take a grinder and remove the rust yourself, then weld on replacement steel and cover it with proper paint. As long as you do it properly and you already have the tools (you can rent a welder IIRC) you can save a couple hundred Dingo-Dollars.

>>568949

I feel your pain. Living in bumfuck-nowhere and having no money to fix your car is basically a death sentence. You should always try to save some money for eventual repairs.

>>569462

>Perazzi

>Armi Jager

>Beretta

>Breda

>Chiappa

>FAMARS

>Fiocchi

>Frat. Tanfoglio

Mate, Italian guns have a long history of being sexy.

>>569760

Unless you're planning to face off against some large animals with your revolver, the .357 is cheaper to feed and more convenient as a carry gun.

>>569767

As mentioned before, I can give some pretty decent rounds for 20c for 44 mag, 1600fps for 240gr. 25-30c per round and I make full house 240gr SWC loads that would fuck up anything not from africa, 24gr AR2205/Lil gun.

In both calibers, this depends on you picking up bullet casting and getting good at it. Fortunately, wheelgats are the best kind of gun for this, as they are extremely forgiving provided you pay attention.

>>569869

>Giving a shitposter free (You)s

No thank you

>>569880

Then don't reply at all you tard, just man up and ignore the post completely. Getting baited into replying then being too much of a beta to actually follow through is worse than just being baited.

>>568883

You should never ever put yourself into dire financial circumstances to buy a firearm, not even your raifu.

>>569866

>@

>>569617

>.45acp luger

>repro(meaning i don't have to stress about shooting a museum piece)

how the fuck did i miss this

where the fuck is it tell me now

>mfw its probably over 3000

So, how long until these hit the market, anyway?

Gotta know when to sell my shit.

>>569976

Call me optimistic or even naive, but I think it will be popular enough to get more production runs and come down in price.

>>569984

Definitely naive.

There's no real demand for an auto-revolver. Gimmicks are its only selling point, as wheelguns in general are a pretty niche market.

It's not really got enough media portrayal to catch most folk's eye. Unfortunately, people who don't have a heavy interest in guns aren't likely to care about it, which means the potential sales are rather limited.

>>569768

Most of the problem is that it's a part time job which means I don't make more than a 1000 dollars a month, and I live with people who refuse to manage money worth a shit.

So aside from it being unique, what does it have to it? It doesn't seem like a firearm you'd want for any other reason other than bragging and/or meme rights.

>>>/cyber/39684

I just wandered onto that board and saw this design for an integrally suppressed striker-fired revolver. Makes me wish Mateba would make it for real. Maybe some streloks should make it.

>>570043

They're exceptionally pleasant to shoot.

>>576585

Why does it look like it has 2 barrels tho?

>>576585

That is aesthetic as fuck, I actually want one of those more than I want a Mateba

>>576693

I'm guessing the catch is they aren't made anymore?

>>576800

they are, you arent gonna get one though

you live in the us, make em yourself

>>576800

They're still in use by Russki special forces, so you can't exactly buy one. According to Kikepedia some stateside company modified Smith and Wesson Model 29s to work in the same way so you could probably make one yourself, as well as the ammo if you have enough money and autism.

>>576800

They've been replaced by the PSS silent pistol. It's a bit louder because of the moving slide, but still quite silent. Notice the racking of the slide at 0:19 and compare with sound of firing the gun, it's the same.

OTs-38 are no longer produced but some are still kept in service because there is a supply of ammunition ready, and because the revolver doesn't leave behind any casings.

Pretty sure we can't buy it in America, considering all the sanctions and import bans.

>>576693

>allows gun to be carried cocked

Isn't that just a pressure switch for the laser sight?

>>576839

I was going to say, it has a wire coming out of it and everything.