/k/ - Weapons

>>557143

That doesn't seem possible, there's no room for a gas piston. Did they just remove the whole thing and make it some weird pseudo-impingement design?

>>557156

I think it's a simple blowback weapon that is just made to look like a miniature AK.

>>557156

>9mm

>needing a locking mechanism

>>557165

Nice. I'll go look for it.

>>557168

>>557165

How are they loading the next cartridge though? It can't be bolt action or gas piston, its either what I said or what my good old hungariabro said here >>557164

By the way hi hungarybro i missed you. Lets talk rifle grenades!

>>555780

When will assault pipes be banned?

(^:

>>557173

Where's your pipe license?

I was going to make a thread on this but it won't let any new threads in so I guess I'll post it here since it's somewhat relevant.

Anybody here have experience getting a Type 7 FFL? I'm looking to make some extra shekels on the side and becoming a FFL dealer seems like a pretty legit route. Plus, it seems like the savings you get buying firearm parts at wholesale is worth the cost and effort of the license. I don't have any felonies, etc. and I don't live in some faggot state like CA.

>>557194

Also ignore the country, it's a VPN

Is SDI a decent place to learn gunsmithing? Quite a few gun channels on Full30 recommend them.

>>557194

A few hundred dollars depending. Pay a lawfag, its worth it. There is a guy in Florida that specializes in it and takes care of everything for two hundred I believe.

>>557171

Probably just straight blowback.

>>557334

The top one is just a piece of standard square tube, the Webm of the Auscunts firing one shows that the spring is held in by a circular piece that is held in place by that rear screw, I assume the barrel is held in by the same method. The other three appear to be standard pluming pipe with the same sheet metal construction as the first.

>>557334

Relevant video with a different set of lutys, for every 1 they find there are probably 4 or 5 more out there. The ones in your pic though look even better than the ones in the video since they have optics and folding stocks.

Looking at your pic more closely I cant see any seams between what would be considered the upper and lower recievers on the bottom 3 guns, also given that they have a round upper reciever this could mean they are actually stamped and bent rather than constructed from common steel tube.

>>557372

You wouldn't do it with a milling machine, you would do it with a router or laser cutter.

It just occurred to me how fucking simple that is to make, you wouldn't need much past a basic hydraulic press and some simple steel blocks to fold that from a pre-cut flat piece of steel.

>>557381

>(Wouldn’t it be mechanically simpler to make a full auto only machine pistol)

Only if its open bolt, that looks like its made to be concealed and used without drawing attention (the suppressor is cute) so it necessitates the closed bolt design.

>>557382

One more dumb question

How do laser cutters work, like dont you have to worry about the metal changing properties after heating like metal tempering?

*it just occured to be to make the reciever out of aluminum*

>>557384

You generally would have to re-temper after laser cutting.

did strelok delete his own post? or is it verboten to throw up schematics? it just looked like a barrel tied to a piece of wood so i don't know why it would be illegal inna US.

>>557380

If you want to get primitive, you could go the C-Clamp route.

>>557404

>The welding in particular I have no idea the difficulty of.

Can be bypassed with basic brazing.

> typical hobbyist

Couple of hours if he doesn't get around to setting jigs up as for the criminal fellow he'd definitely have jigs set up and probably could crank dozens out in a day by his lonesome, more if he sets a production line up.

>>557412

>lower receiver is machined from a solid block of metal including the magwell

>keyways to hold some pieces together

>what is probably a mag release button in a place reachable by your trigger finger

>pretty good finish on the machined components

You could have shown me a picture of that without the text and I probably would have guessed it was made by someone in Japan, some thought has been put into ergonomics but you can tell its built by someone with little practical experience with handguns.

Kind of want to build a submachinegun.

Kind of don't want to go to Federal prison.

>>557415

Cant go to prison if your dead

https://web.archive.org/web/20170102102045/https://8ch.net/k/res/350474.html

Embed related seems to have some potential for home building

I was just thinking that a clear goal could be designing a gun that can be made using only sheets/slabs of metal welded together.

Steel can be found on that shape and cutting shapes is viable even with a fucking vertical drill (or a vertical drill rigged into small milling machine).

I'll try to sketch something tomorrow to properly explain the idea. The overall concept is to reduce required powertools to just two or three very basic and common things.

>>558241

>or even if it works.

I'm guessing it isn't a real gyrojet if it does.

>>557452

Would this be considered open-bolt? I mean, it doesn't have an actual bolt, as the barrel goes onto the cartridge instead of the other way around, but what about for legal purposes?

>>558241

Those look like weird shotgun shells, so from that alone I doubt its real. The ejection port also doesn't line up with the barrel.

I imagine the way it could work with that size is being a bolt-action pistol, but even then the barrel is so short it wouldn't be very effective outside a few yards.

>>558317

hes not white

Who said any thing about white?

>>558336

>>558337

not alexander. the post your responding to is from signapore, ie they would not be likely to study western history

>>558361

no not really, but they teach it anyway.

>>558484

That pic is from Brazil.

>>557415

It is possible to build a semi-auto only, closed bolt carbine. I'm working on an expedient design right now and I've just about finished.

>>558583

Is it gas piston? DI or roller delayed blow back?

>>558484

Since its a 22 caliber and long gun, i doubt it was a cartel gun more like something for some farmer to plink and hunt small game with,

i actually kinda want one

>>558583

Sounds interesting. Be sure to post up plans for it when done. Not many homemade guns are more than pistol caliber.

>>558593

Blowback.

>>558598

.357 magnum. Single stack, single feed magazine.

Everyone needs to start somewhere.

>>558595

That's not 5.56 NATO. It's either 7.62 NATO, 7mm Mauser, or 8mm Mauser. 7mm Mauser was more common down there because of all the Mauser bolt action rifles they used to have. The gun is straight blowback and was used by a gang. It should have a roughly 8-10 lb bolt to operate safely and the receiver does have enough room for it in the back end but they may have been using something as light as 5 lbs.

>>558382

>Chinese history is pretty cool

Whatever's left of it.

>>558630

>That's not 5.56 NATO. It's either 7.62 NATO, 7mm Mauser, or 8mm Mauser

He was talking about the revolver rifle, which does look like a .22, not the giant blowback. Which is .50 BMG, by the way.

>>558630

So an M1 carbine but cheaper? I'm down.

>>558638

>>558660

>>558638

Fine .22 longrifle you happy?

>>558361

Yes, but only in the Modern Era.

>>558661

No

>>558754

Cotter pins, a very good thought.

>>558754

The striker spring having to overcome the spring which forces the bolt into battery isn't a good design in my opinion.

>>558761

It doesn't. The striker has a larger diameter hole that the bolt spring goes through unobstructed. The striker has it's own, larger diameter spring behind it. It was not visible in these pictures because the part was hidden at the time I took these screencaps.

>>558762

>The striker has a larger diameter hole that the bolt spring goes through unobstructed. The striker has it's own, larger diameter spring behind it.

That's only marginally better.

You could easily move the mainspring so that it sits above the barrel and the bolt pulls the guide rod to compress it, and then have a separate guide rod and spring for the striker which sits at the back of the gun.

>>555780

>noone has posted anything about rifling yet

come on guys you're letting me down

>>558818

A lot of hand filing. Expect to throw out a lot of failed parts. That shit requires some real accurate dimensioning.

>>558818

>How difficult would it be to make a Schwarzlose/Pedersen type toggle-delayed blowback system?

Very. That requires very precise machining. It sounds good on paper because you get a rifle with a fixed barrel and no gas system but the tolerances were so tight it was always on the bleeding edge of failure.

>>558830

Thanks for that. I may use it in a .45-70 roller locked design in the future.

On the subject of rifling, would it be possible to bypass the problem with the usual blowback SMGs like the BSP 9 by using a pre-made 9mm AR barrel?

I know the cheapo SMGs lend themselves more to short range spraying and praying, so rifling might not be all that big an issue, but I still think a proper barrel would be a great improvement. I'm pretty sure that you can buy Sten barrels and the like for not too much cash, but AR barrels are far more ubiquitous.

>>559047

You have a good idea, but I think the point of the OP was to try to inject freedom into communist countries like the UK or Australia. You have to act like no gun parts at all are available to you, start thinking like the Last True Briton Philip A. Luty.

>>559047

With enough ingenuity you can use anything. There are some folks who have bought those cheap demilled AK barrels with the holes drilled in them, cut out an unmolested section between the holes, threaded one end, and chambered to make pistol barrels out of. A $5 demilled barrel can yield 3+ (depending on length and location of holes) rifled barrels of high steel quality. The AK barrels have good dimensions for rechambering to .32 ACP. You can also get FAL, Galil, and other assorted barrels on the cheap as they're all shittily demilled.

>>559049

>OP was to try to inject freedom into communist countries like the UK or Australia

>You have to act like no gun parts at all are available to you, start thinking like the Last True Briton Philip A. Luty.

Yep, you have to assume that absolutely no gun parts are available. Unlike here and in the US, where only the part with the serial number is the 'gun', in cucked countries all the pressure bearing components are considered firearms.

>>559047

>>559057

Short barrels can be drilled with a simple twist drill and reamer, if you want to step it up a bit you could even make your own rifling button since with short barrels you can just press it through on a commonly available hydraulic press.

It doesn't solve the larger concern of ammo though, ammo is still controlled and most creators of these designs assume you can get a hold of it. Luty got put some thought into this by making ammo with brass tubing with match heads for powder but its not exactly a great solution, with the process taking considerable time and producing sub-standard ammunition.

I have been thinking about this over the last few days I am starting to believe that a truly successful design has to be a complete package. Gun, dies for drawing brass cases, tooling and guides on how to make basic smokeless powder from scratch, etc. There is a project called Open Source Ecology which looks at all the machines you need for basic civilisation and lays out a roadmap for building all of them starting from just one machine, I think a similar approach for guns is the correct way to go and given the low cost of benchtop CNC mills (< $1500USD for a cheap Sieg X2 mini-mill and CNC conversion kit) I think its do-able.

>>559058

First place you'll want to start looking is lathe turned casings. Expensive and time consuming but much more accessible than a homemade brass drawing rig I'd imagine. It's how a lot of rare brass gets custom produced in the US.

Projectiles can of course be cast easily and when it comes to powder/primer the chemistry is floating all over the internet.

>>559085

>First place you'll want to start looking is lathe turned casings.

>much more accessible than a homemade brass drawing rig I'd imagine.

I did consider machined casings but there a few issues with them, the main one being that it still doesn't solve the primer issue. Even Luty used blank cartridges for the primers which breaks the rule of not needing anything potentially controlled, so realistically the person making the guns and ammo is going to need to do some drawing.

>Projectiles can of course be cast easily

Again though, the mold needs to be made. You can't expect someone in China to be able to order a 'Lee bullet mold #xyz' like you can.

>and when it comes to powder/primer the chemistry is floating all over the internet

Yes but the tooling to consistently make smokeless powder isn't. Mixing a bunch of chemicals together in a specific way doesn't magically make the extruded smokeless powder we can freely buy. Granule size has to be tightly controlled to ensure consistent burn rates and safe pressure levels.

What is the absolute cheapest zip gun design and how many could I feasibly bring to a buyback before they tell me to fuck off? If I can reasonably expect them to accept 200+ pipe shotguns I'll fucking do it.

>>559141

In recent years, my state has offered $200 gift cards for ""assault weapons."" You could definitely throw together something non-compliant for half of that, but it might be more efficient to go low with slam bang shotguns.

>>559127

>short barrel (around 7 inches)

Furthermore, with long barrels you start running into problems drilling the hole in the first place, because you can't evacuate the chips from the hole as fast as you're cutting them.

The 'proper' way to do it is to use a gun drill, i.e., a drill that squirts coolant out through the end to flush out chips. But that requires special tooling, a special tool holder, and a dedicated coolant pump.

It's possible, but time consuming, to do it with a standard twist drill because you have to back it out all the way to remove chips.

What other options are there? Start with a predrilled tube? Some sort of electrochemical boring process?

>>559158

>with long barrels you start running into problems drilling the hole in the first place

not if you have the right tools and a lathe.

You don't bore in one pass, you progressively drill for the 1st 6 inches, and for each extra inch you move afterward, you pull the bit out. You then flip the whole thing around amd drill from the other side, so you end up drilling as deep as 8-10 inches for a 16" barrel and 10-14 for a 20" barrel Vid also related.

Another way of doing it is forging a barrel from a flat, that is even more time consuming and you still need to straighten the bore by drilling afterward though you have less material to use. If your heat treatment is off you end up fucking up the entire process so it's much more difficult.

>gun drill

>special tools

lol no, you just need to change the tailstock out, that's it, the lathe does most of the turning, the gundrill doesn't turn, the material does.

>electrochemical boring

If you have weeks to spare, sure, just don't expect it to be a straight bore if you expect it to be left alone to do its own work. It's quite inconsistent if you don't know what you're doing.

Oh, the other way you can pull this off is using a Vertical Mill and raising the knee/lowering the head while pumping coolant into the bore as the material is moving toward the tool.

>>559091

Truth on the primer issue. A boxer primed casing is easy to make since the primer pocket is drilled straight through, but if you could figure out how to make a berdan primed casing primers are easier to make since they're just a little copper cup.That could be stamped out of a hand press of some sort I'd imagine. You're right though primers are the most complicated piece of the cartridge. I'm not going to suggest we use any sort of flint or matchlock system. At that point sharp objects will probably be more effective. We all need to be thinking of how to get around the primer issue. Is there any solution to be found in electric ignition perhaps?

Molds can be made pretty easily if you've got a lathe/mill/drill press really any rotary metal boring tool. If you're in a country where for some reason those aren't available they can be made from a small engine. There are plans online. Lead can be harvested from car batteries and wheel weights.

I had in mind black powder which can be reduced to a consistent grain size by ball milling and subsequent sieving. A bit dangerous but so is this whole affair. You certainly aren't going to make high quality smokeless powder at home, but smokeless powder of a sort is doable if blackpowder simply won't do. Sheet nitrocellulose (flash paper) is easy to produce in the home environment and can be physically cut to smaller proportions and utilized. Effective? Hardly. Safe? No. Usable? Yes.

>>557334

Found an other picture of this set of lutys

>>557412

He get death penalty?

Thoughts on 3D printed guns? Are they just a may-may?

>>559817

They are a great concept, but for the moment they aren't a fabulous in reality. They work for receivers on AR-15's because the stresses are lower, but we won't see reliable printed firearms until there are some significant developments in material. Home CNC is where it's at though, shoutout to the Ghost Gunner.

>>558317

>>558302

And the Aryans who brought civilization to India in the first place, and which India is named after?

The god Indra was a blonde haired blue eyed god who massacred shitskins in the Vedic scriptures.

>>559817

The issue with additive manufacturing in general is that it won't be as strong as molds or CNC from a solid block. You're building material in layers with additive manufacturing, meaning there's much more room for failure, and you generally have to use weaker solids to form parts. It's great for disposable stuff like board clamps or robotic arms, but if you need it to last more than 300 slowly shit rounds from a gun, it won't help you much and the time/materials will quickly become more expensive than its counterparts.

Molten metal printing will solve this issue over the next few years, but molten metal extruding printers are expensive as shit and only good in a factory setting.

>>559842

Ghost gunner is overpriced shit. Any CNC machine can do the job, and frankly unless you're producing firearms for all of your buddies or selling them, buying an 80% lower and the proper bits for a drill press is far cheaper since you can get a drill press on craigslist or from a thrift store occasionally for like $200. Total receiver cost being $400ish with tools and everything.

>>559878

I don't disagree with you, I know it's overpriced and personally I would rather have a full CNC in my shop. But the core concept is great and if it helps keep Cody in the black then I'm all for it.

>>559843

They got raped out of existance and India is now basically Brazil. Same with Iran. Same with Egypt. Of the great Aryan powers only Greece and Rome survived…. kind of.

Really the only way for white people to survive is to get off this fucking planet, head out into the black, and never look back. Nogs can't catch us if we get a good head start.

>>559909

>They got raped out of existance

No, the racial segregation broke down due to the adoption of Buddhism, previous to Sidharta the first Buddha the races were kept entirely separate, with the racially pure white brahmans at the top (this is what Sidharta was by the way), followed by the mulatto warrior and merchant castes, with the pureblood indigenous at the bottom. Buddhism was opposed to the caste system, and during the time that Buddhism was the majority religion in India the caste system broke down, and the purebloods mixed with the lower castes, and now no pureblooded Aryans remain in India, however the brahmin caste in India still retain roughly 20-30% white genetics on average, which is why they are far more pleasant to look at, and achieve at a much higher rate than the subhuman native purebloods.

>Really the only way for white people to survive is to get off this fucking planet

No, it is for white people to exterminate all the non-whites, which is what would have happened if it weren't for the worthless cuckold religion of Christianity. Your (((beliefs))) are either pathetic cuckoldry on a scale that shouldn't be possible, or kike blackpilling, all depending on your ethnicity. Either way you should kill yourself.

>>559927

>"No!"

>confirms what I said

lol.

>No, it is for white people to exterminate all the non-whites

>start a costly war fighting 10:1 odds

>try to scribble a living in the wasteland after the war, if it can even be started

lol fuck off.

>>559705

I think roller delay is hard as fuck to pull off right. Consider flutting the chamber.

If you do build it, prepare a simple test too for the chamber (just a fixed fire pin attached to a block inside a guide-like structure with your chamber un one end and a stop on the other). It is very important to see how much the brass expands after the round is fired.

>>559875

>Molten metal

>Not laser sintering

>>559878

I concur it is a poor alternative to a proper CNC, but if all you're going to do is shit out finished 80% lowers, it isn't so bad. Non CN tools can get the job done too.

>>559817

It is absolute dogshit If all you're doing is making a gun. Sand casting molds (very good and often overlooked approach to DIY gun making) or low stress bits and pieces is the correct use for those 3D printers.

>>559980

>Sand Casting

About as close to reading my mind as you can get

>>559909

>Fleeing the planet

Countries like Sweden and the UK have already made it a priority to get blacks onto Mars so they can cuck their countries even in outer space.

>>559980

Roller locked, not roller delayed. There is no angled surface here and I'm not sure that it would be possible to make a roller delayed system with a second pair of rollers acting as safety lugs.

The front portion of the inner part of the bolt that drives the rollers apart protrudes through the bolt face slightly.

When the cartridge is fired it moves back a fraction of an inch but it should be enough to start the inner bolt moving back under momentum against spring tension.

The main bolt body is long enough that the inner bolt will have 2+ inches of travel before the rollers can move in and the bolt unlocks. And that's where the big problem is. I can shorten the back end of the main body, and I can eliminate the front rollers and probably still be fine, but this system long when open. It's also very heavy in the current iteration.

I've tried to trim material and weight where I can from the design but I think I may want to start a new model as a straight-pull and see how things go from there.

>>558287

>>557452

http://www.forgottenweapons.com/wp-content/uploads/HinoKomuro/US%20Patent% i20886211.pdf

I found the patent issued for the hino komura, more detailed drawings of the design

I think the best thing we can do with homemade gun making is besides cucking gun control

Reviving forgotten weapons

https://m.imgur.com/r/Skookum/diHx7

Some more info on homemade rifling

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-10-24/adelaide-backyard-firearms-dealer-jailed-for-10-years/5839358

>>560004

Yeah, I wouldn't use cans for anything that needs to withstand actual stress, but the concept is spot on. Good aluminium is also "easy" to melt (relatively speaking), the tempering is a long process, but not that complex to pull off. The final product should be pretty good and repetition should give consistent results.

>>560066

>Opinions on ghost gunner type tools for someone whose never milled or cnc'd?

If you absolutely insist on wasting your money to get a ghost gun and have no idea how a CNC machine works, get a fucking drill press and use premade 90% lowers.

>>560069

80%

Fuck I'm drunk.

>>560066

You don't need a CNC machine to finish an 80% lower. If you were doing it from the billet, that would be a different story, but you're not. You don't even need an actual mill, most people get away with a drill press and cross slide vice, hogging out the pocket with a drill and doing only the finishing pass with a small diameter endmill.

Even if you did need a CNC mill, you'd be better off buying a Sherline or Tiag or any other CNC-ready micro/bench mill.

>>560069

>>560073

Thanks for correcting me there. What would you suggest as for babbys first reading material on this or should a course on youtube be enough? Id like to start somewhere and end up with a 1911.

Oh no, I just made a homemade illegal firearm with my belt loop. When do I expect to have my Floridan branch of the ATF kill my dog?

>>560085

Honestly watching a video and having access to the blueprints should be more than enough.

>>560261

>implying there is any difference between a white woman getting raped by a nigger or a white man raping a nigger

>pretending somehow the second is "more honorable"

End result is a mulatto either way retard.

>edgy teen garbage

>that flag

Yeah ok.

>>560019

I'd have a space program to send blacks onto the surface of the Sun.

>>560266

>End result is a mulatto either way retard.

You said that they were raped out of existence, your claim is false, and now you're arguing a strawman. I never said that race mixing is good, or that the results are much different regardless of how it is committed.

>>edgy teen garbage

>>that flag

>Yeah ok.

Wew lad, it's just truth, and your retarded faggot sandnigger ass can't handle it, and what is a VPN, my dear IQ 80 subhuman mutant niggerfaggot?

thank you for the salt

>>560271

Whatever. They consensually fucked each other out of existance. That isn't the important part of the comment you autistic manchild.

The point is that they are gone, everyone in India is a nigger now. Just like everyone in Brazil is a nigger now, just like everyone in Egypt is a nigger now, everyone in Iran is a nigger now, and everyone in Sweden will be a nigger soon. It doesn't matter who rapes whom, or if its consensual, those civilizations are dead.

"Coexisting" with niggers is an impossibility, even if you are their conquerors or masters you eventually become niggers. Thats why wars are retarded and the only way to win is to escape.

> I never said that race mixing is good

Yes you did, somalikun.

>>560286

Why are you people arguing about fake history in a home built gun thread?

>>560287

Because autistic manchildren who are letting Swedish women racemix are posting here too.

>>560291

Would you so kindly look up earlier in the thread and see that I'm not in the same country then?

I already told you once you inbred faggot cunt, what is a VPN?

>>560296

>Because fewer white people will die if we just go off planet. True redheads and blondes are practically extinct as it is.

>Thats why wars are retarded and the only way to win is to escape.

>R-RUN AWAY WHITE MAN

Why? Why should we not just exterminate them? Because you're a blackpilling nigger-kike-faggot who doesn't want to die?

>We can nuke the planet once we aren't on it if you're so set on extermination

Or we could just massacre you and put you in the compost without having to nuke anything, and not pollute the planet. Why does the thought of white people not being cowards scare you so mister Schlomo?

>but I don't think fighting a conventional war against all of the sub-races is something a sane non-Jew person would suggest.

>Y-YOU CAN'T WIN A WAR AGAINST THE IQ 70-80 NIGGERS WHITE MAN

>J-JUST RUN AWAY

>O-OR YOU'RE A KIKE!!!!!!

Wew lad.

>>560304

>The problem isn't niggers,or any other shitskin. It would be whites who would fight to stop any extermination.

This is what I said earlier in the thread, the white sentiment against extermination rests on two pillars, christian slave morality, and gaslighting by the media/state, the first pillar is already entirely hollowed out and will collapse without the support of the second one, and the second pillar is built on the systems ability to absorb the consequences of non-whties living in our countries, and that ability is quickly eroding, the money which the state uses to subsidize the infrastructure of deception is procured through borrowing, it is only a matter of time until the market dependencies are normalized, and when that happens the entire machine of white disenfranchisement will collapse, the only thing that is necessary is for a white nationalist organization to have the infrastructure necessary to take advantage of such a situation. Trying to infiltrate and subvert the current power structure is retarded and will bear absolutely no fruit, the cultural marxists were able to infiltrate the state and subvert it because they were unopposed by the ruling power elite during their infiltration, we do not exist in the same paradigm, and we do not have the same path of action open to us.

Attempt to combat the current system through political action is stupid, since your'e playing with the enemy on their own playing field, according to their rules, the best you will accomplish is an endless cuckery of compromise and failure to affect real change.

>>560300

>Thinking you can win a conventional war against 87% of the planet

That isn’t realistic. Escaping to space is the best solution. Who cares if there are niggers billions of mile away. s long as they don’t other me or my community.

>>560296

Why would someone chose to have someone impregnate there wife over having biological children. Unless the guy’s infernal?

>>560314

>That isn’t realistic. Escaping to space is the best solution.

In no fucking way is that true, and those 87% that you're talking about are subhuman garbage that are too stupid to use the fucking tooling we give them, they can't build industries or develop economies, making them turn against each other, and fight in our interest would also be very easy.

The only ones who could potentially pose any threat are east Asians, and they're entirely reliant upon us for trade, so maintaining good relations between us is also in their interest, and it would be easy to keep them out of the conflict.

>>560314

Chinks can be contained or colonized by Japan again.

Niggers think increasing the zeroed in range on weapon sights make it do more damage because

<ooga booga big number big kill moffuga

It's literally slightly above shooting zombies in terms of intellectual capacity of your enemy.

>>560261

>>560286

>everyone in brazils a nigger

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Brazilians

>>560336

>I mean how fucking bad does it have to get before whites decide it's enough?

I don't understand your complaint, it isn't up to us to decide when the war starts, that is entirely dependent on the system collapsing, until that collapse there isn't a whole lot we can actually do. I'm not saying that because I like it, I'm just saying because it's true, lots of people have tried to fight against the system using their speech, and their right to assembly, all of them have failed, because the system aren't playing by the rulebook they hold us up to. They let communists, niggers, and spics get away with literal murder and rape, but as soon as they can spin a white man as being guilty of any crime, regardless of it being true, they do everything in their power to take him down and make an example of him. Quite simply, you can't go against the system on their terms and win, because they control the banks, and through the banks they own the media, and all corporations that we are dependent on for distributing alternative media, and most important of all they own the state monopoly on violence, put these things together and it's impossible to have an honest peaceful struggle with them, or wage an effective armed insurance against them. But, the thing that we have on our side is truth, and that is not to be underestimated, our worldview stands in concordance with fact, and theirs against it, this is the reason their system is beginning to come apart at the seems, and why it will inevitably collapse, the outfall of this will be the most nightmarish societal collapse in all of human history, all the various racial subgroups, and the ethnic derivations of the races are going to be waging a war all against each other, it won't be something that happens over night either, it is something that's going to begin fairly benignly, but over months or even years the small tribal conflicts will blossom out in to low intensity race war, and due to the state no longer having the banks to rely on propping them up they're going to lack the means necessary to maintain a sufficiently sized state apparatus to keep the developing racial conflicts under control, what's far more likely is that the various race conflicts start seeping in to the state apparatus, and it eventually seizes to function on any scale above the municipal.

And we white people will win for the very reason we've always won our wars against these subhumans, because we're better than them in every field, we're smarter than them, we're more trusting and less violent than them, allowing us to build strong social structures that are able far more efficiently support military and scientific endeavors, and our higher IQ means that we're generally far more successful than the non-whites.

I'm sorry to let you down, but you're not going to get your white revolution, we're not going to have a peaceful collapse like the Soviet Union, we're going to be in a concrete box locked in with all the subhumans, and the only way for us out of that box is by stacking their corpses.

>>560338

>Look at these 5% of the population who aren't niggers!

Literally mulattoes count themselves as white in the Brazilian census because they're not full blooded nigger, the few pure whites in that country are in such a minority that they're practically irrelevant.

>>560356

That's a nice big lady. I saw a similar deal a couple of years ago, but I live in a fucking apartment, so it was a no-go.

How much machining experience do you have?

>>560391

Meant for >>560276 and not the autistic retard shitting up an actual /k/ thread.

>>560419

Sorry, I thought your post was by the jap.

>>560430

Even with these numbers brazil has millions of whites, brazil is not a white country but that doesn’t mean it has no whites, brazil also has the largest amount of japs outside of japland

>Not wanting to genocide all non-whites first except japs, honorary to secure the homefront before setting off for space

>>560431

A tiny minority of the total population are white, I've never claimed anything else, but so what? Brazil is still a non-white shit hole, and nothing good will ever come out of that country because of it.

>>560436

Is there sci-fi without niggers and jews in it?

Having races that funnels your resources with no payoff while you have developed space-travel technology really doesn't seem to be believable

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>>560261

>race bitching

>Homemade Guns thread

Take it to /pol/ and stop fagging up this thread with your bullshit. I'm here to discuss gunsmithing for the masses. If it doesn't have anything to do with building guns then it doesn't belong in this thread. I am so sick of NEET edgelords and ATF shitbirds derailing threads like this.

>>560446

Your right have some flips making guns

>>560276

Nice piece of hardware strelok.

>>560391

Room is always an issue, I'm going to have to go with a small bench mill because I have given so much room to the lathe.

I have maybe 20 hours lathe time and haven't touched one in years. This is going to be a learning experience.

>>560446

shut up nigger

>>560524

If I can finally get on a massive debt to move to a big house with my gf like the good normalfag that I'm, I'll be able to have some interesting shit to work on. More or less on the same boat, did a course on my late teens and that's all. My dad is big guy on the metallurgy industry, but I ended up being an office leech. It will be quite the ride.

Any guides or tutorials that you can recommend?

>>560549

I have found youtube to be great for advice, I recommend:

https://www.youtube.com/user/oxtoolco/

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5NO8MgTQKHAWXp6z8Xl7yQ

And the embedded series.

>>560559

Jesus. Would have expected them to put a bit more work into the thing, that's so unbelievably crude but effective, literally just wood, pipe, tape and flash powder from fireworks.

>>560567

It's a very pragmatic approach indeed. A constant reminder that it takes very little to kill a -likely- unarmed man (yes, only "special" cops carry guns in worse korea).

>>560563

Thanks, m8. I'll look into it.

>>560571

>(yes, only "special" cops carry guns in worse korea).

So Korean cops are like strippers?

especially the female ones (^:

>>560559

BAN ASSAULT PIPES

>>560311

Sweden is right in this one.

>>560085

>babbys first reading material on this

If you're still here, the Workshop Practice Series is a good reference for basic stuff.

Also, I did a bit of reading, and the operations necessary to finish a 1911 80% lower are as follows:

>face ('deck') the top

>mill the slide rails

>drill and ream a couple of holes

>handfit the grip safety, if wanted

Of these, only the slide rail is particularly troublesome. You would probably need an actual mill for that.

>>558754

that is a lot like the classic table leg machine gun (based on the WW2 sten SMG) made from scrap metal found in an office, or house. A modern demo version can be seen at

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2015/11/11/table-leg-typewriter-diy-submachine-gun-prototype/

Also at

https://www.scribd.com/doc/288878779/The-Table-Leg-Typewriter-Practical-Scrap-Metal-Small-Arms-Vol-10

There are others scrap metal guns mentioned in the related section of the above link (like the Kyhber Pass Pistol, or box tube Mac11)

I'm quite surprised no one has mentioned the infamous 4 winds shotgun ITT.

>>559927

I like how you treat other races as criminals wholesale but gloss over the whites' capacity for evil

The village in cipaicing in indonesia, has a kyber pass style industry for airguns heres a video, any stre/k/locks know indonesian?

Could you build AR-type magazines at home and how complicated is magazine building?

>>560880

Probably easier to just buy them

unless they're banned in Estonia or whatever, in which case your best bet is to just bend sheets of metal around a mandrill and weld it into a shell. The feed lips could be bent in a vice or maybe made separately and welded on later once the shell has been made.

>>560886

Just a curiosity. I don't own funs, but having that info might be useful. Are PPSH-esque drum mags particularly hard to build? What about pan mags?

>>560922

Considering that most drum mags basically never work, I'd expect it to be pretty hard.

>>560750

Your comment is so completely retarded and purveys such a mental state of cuckoldry that I can hardly believe you to even be serious.

It's entirely irrelevant, I'm white, I'm in it for my group. Kill yourself, you utter niggerfaggot.

>>560712

I'm a CIA operative at Stare Kiejkuty blacksite, but since it was shut down i just sit here shitposting and getting paid for it.

(^:

>>560051

>Yeah, I wouldn't use cans for anything that needs to withstand actual stress

Well the lowers are easy to deal with, the only things that really have stress on them, in a good design are the Barrel Extension/Trunion and Bolt (atleast in a rotating bolt design).

Roller Lock, Flapper lock, Rear Lock and Tilting Bolt depend on the upper receiver.

That can be fixed if you put steel inserts into the receiver itself with its own "skeleton" in the softer material by welding it together then "closing" the design by casting over it.

>>560060

It will work sure, but you need to do it in such a way that you don't have alot of holes in the casting so the structural integrity is uniform.

>>560549

Here's another good channel for learning the basics

https://www.youtube.com/user/SmithyCo/videos

>>560563

This old Tony, I admire your tastes

Folding stock out of rebar, same guy that made a rifle barrel with rebar. Worth a watch.

>>561661

Strelok, that's a woodworking lathe.

>>561724

>hidden flag

Sup newfag? When did you arrive from reddit?

>>561661

>lathing cases

Cases are stamped.

Get a small round-ish piece of brass and some hardened steel negatives (lathe, then harden yourself, negatives should progressively look more like a case), as well as a hydraulic press (car jack).

Making non-shouldered ammunition is piss easy (you can lathe the rim) but shouldered cases need a circular press, which is slightly harder to make.

>>561744

Hes speaking of solid brass projectiles. Unlike lead ones they tend to hold up going super sanic fast and going super sanic fast means armor is tod.

>>561745

They work. Most of them are built on the sten principle of if the barrel holds up the rest of it will function fine.

>>561784

It isn't hidden, you massive cuckfaggot, go back to >>>/plebbit/ >>>/4cuck/

>>561785

>inb4 he starts claiming "I was only pretending to be retarded, u mad xD?"

>>561697

i know next to nothing about these types of tools gotta start somewhere

>>561747

>armour is tod

Tot would be appropriate here. Tod is the Nomen, tot is the Adjektiv.

Keep at it, pseudokraut.

>>559783

Honestly as soon as someone figures out how to put an EDM sinker head onto a 3d printer we won't even need that (I'm working on it myself, but it won't be for a long while because of work)

>>562085

I'll relearn it properly eventually.

>>562407

>aluminum

>>562415

Its a screenshot from the imperial war museam, in britbongistan

>>562415

Tod/tot is a mistake even natives make occasionally.

But "Aluminium" is the proper spelling and everyone who disagrees should be lined up and shot.

>>562435

Aluminium isn't exactly a thing you want a barrel of a gun to be. Besides that german was beat out of me as a kid, as I said I'll relearn it all one day.

>>562407

Is that a cargo cult gun?

>>558583

videos like this are gold to engineers like me. It makes me whonder why there are less modern videos and media educating people like this? it's so good. I've noticed it with videos and books on other subjects too. It seems like new media seeks to amaze but not teach; although to people like me it gets old very fast. Old media is practical and teaches very well.

What would happen if Trump were to build a slam fire shot gun live, and killed feinstein on stage?

>>562923

Hell would freeze over

Who sells 80% kits for bitcoin?

>>563305

You do know that bitcoin is traceable right?

>>563359

Of course, he's ATF.

>>563359

So? I still have to give both name an address to purchase the 80% ya think about that? I was hoping to just pay with bitcoin, nothing more.

>>558754

Any news?

>>560004

>making receivers out of soda cans

You do know the chemistry in those kinds of aluminum is extremely different, right? You're effectively making aircraft parts out of pop cans.

>>566440

An AR lower isn't exactly the highest stress component out there. Maybe it won't hold up long-term, but I wouldn't be afraid to fire it.

>>557381

yes it would be far easier, but pointless in pratcise; a full auto can be as simple as the Sten or the M3 or the PPh… whatever, and all of these are only a receiver tube, a barrel, a trigger to catch the bolt, and a spring returned mass that's big enough to keep the case head from separating during firing. They're dead simple, with the only parts that are complete to make being the barrel and the magazine. But here's the impracticle part; a full auto burns through ammo almost instantly, which is why they are used only for cover / supressive fire, not for normal use.

>>557372

A milling machine is ideal, but they are costly, with the hobbyist chinese imports being $500 minimum. Many of guns shown, such as the Kolt 380, the table leg typewriter, etc. are all made from pre-form angle iron and sheet steel. A dremel/rotary tool and a cordless drill can assemble and/or build everything save for the barrel, which is where your lathe comes in. The lathe is the moher of all machine tools, and can double as a mill, if poorly so.

>>557404

for anyone, even experienced people, these take about 3 hours to make with no breaks or rests. It's boring, tedious and sometimes difficult to do without real machines likes lathes and mills. In reality one of these guns takes about 2 years to build, because it's a pick up and put down sort of hobby.

>>557415

submachine guns are crap projects in practise. Try building a .22 rifle or pistol for real world use.

>>558763

just a thought; maybe forgo the carter pins and go with a trigger assmbly mounted inside of a bend segment of steel, with normal pins, being held in place by the sides of the receiver from the inside? In this way even overside holes or undersized pins wouldn't matter much because the reciever keeps them captive.

>>567674

Does that revolver have homemade ammo made of drill bits and packing tape? I wonder how it's primed. It reminds me of early paper cartridges.

>>567878

>whats up with this thing though

Looks like part of this http://candrsenal.com/rifle-italian-carcano-m38-cavalry/

Tell me, /k/. That's the coolest looking homemade gun you've seen?

>>567976

that last pic(i think its a flamethrower?) gave me an idea

is there any way to use the power of a fire extinguisher to propell a projectile?

i guess you could fit a pvc pipe that narrows it gradually onto the nozzle

200% newfag here, what are the US laws on making homemade firearms?

>>568418

Varies from state to state IIRC. No full auto, no short barreled shotguns/rifles, nothing that can get you busted under actual gun laws. You should be A-OK with anything single shot.

>586420 thanks, in the lone ranger state so should be fairly lax

>>568418

You're good to go if it isn't a F/A, SBR/SBS or open bolt with a magazine. You can make an open bolt gun provided its single shot like some fudd rifle. If you're looking to sell your homemade gun/pass it on you need a FFL or the ATF is going to rape you.

How difficult would it be to make a shotgun cane? without accidentally blowing your foot/wrist off if the lock gives out? Would the ATF go after it like they go after suitcase guns?

>>568433

Cane guns are classified the same as pen guns i.e AOW's. State law may prohibit them.

>>567986

I wouldn't be the guy to know. I'm just an intermittent lurker and no background in engineering of any use.

Though I think you'd be able to use pressurised containers to fire projectiles. I wouldn't use an extinguisher, but I'm sure there's a few examples of pump-up firearms, like those in the Metro 2033 game I referenced earlier.

>>568428

Close - you only need an FFL to sell homemade guns if it's across state lines or you're making a job out of it/working on commission. You don't even need a serial number but it will help if you plan on actually using it and it's not just a four-winds shotgun

>>566345

Sorry, not yet. I was putting that together over spring break. I have class right now and the difficulty is ramping up in 2 classes before finals.

>>557477

>why would you need plans for those?

If it wasn't a single-shot gun, it would be a really interesting toy.

But most DIY projects share the same issue.

The RN2238 (vid related) may even be easier to make.

Requesting source for 9mm chambered barrels/barrel blanks. Best I've found is chambered blanks from some eBay outfit at ~$30 each, if anyone can get me there cheaper I'd appreciate it.

>>568418

In US law, what is a "firearm"? Asking for technicalities

>>570019

For purposes of § 922 and § 924 violations 18 U.S.C. § 921(a)(3) defines a "firearm" as:

A. any weapon (including a starter gun) which will or is designed to or may readily be converted to

expel a projectile by the action of an explosive;

B. the frame or receiver of any such weapon;

C. any firearm muffler or firearm silencer; or

D. any destructive device. Such term does not include an antique firearm.

>>569966

Suggestion, have you thought of electrochemical machining? S&W uses it to rifle barrels and is fucking cheap/easy compared to button or hammer forging the rifling.

>>570192

If you can point me to a writeup on doing that in the home environment without great expense it sounds great. My main issue with making barrels is my lack of a lathe. Even the HF ones are several hundred dollars, and that would buy more barrels than I need. I could ghetto it up and chamber on a drill press, but that's probably just going to fuck things up and including a proper reamer would still cost more. I suppose I could ghetto it up even further and just straight ream it and ignore the tapering of 9x19. It'll fire.

I found some take-off subgun barrels in .45 ACP for $40 each I think I'll pick up a few of those instead. Already chamberd, crowned, rifled, and profiled so all I have to do is design a trunnion and throw it onto my design. Sitting on a small pile of Thompson mags so I don't have to get the Sten mags I was planning on. If I decide to start stockpiling submachineguns then I might invest in the lathe for low-scale cottage production work. Button rifling tools can be had on eBay for under $100, and I've got a 20 ton press to do it with. Chambering is really the issue.

Anyone made a homemade magazine? I've seen AK mags produced by tribals that weren't total shit. Pressing sheet steel over a mandrel and hitting it with the TIG would do it, wouldn't it? Hell could even braze it I bet.

>>570203

The moment you have a jig setup for a hydraulic press they're simple enough to make, especially for straight walled carriages. The only tricky part is feed lips but you can do as the brits did with the sten and have that a separate piece you tack on.

>>570212

cartridges*

>>570203

>If you can point me to a writeup on doing that in the home environment without great expense it sounds great.

See vid

>My main issue with making barrels is my lack of a lathe.

You still need to drill the initial hole, electrochemical machining is for the rifling

>>570221

Thank you for the cover, ausbro.

>>567965

Is that like a zinc toy cap gun revolver grip? Would that even survive one shot?

>>557171

I mean, you could fit a gas piston in there if it'd been chopped down extremely heavily…

>>570076

>Such term does not include an antique firearm.

So you can have a home-made cannon?

What about a replica of a mortar?

>>573523

It basically includes anything not using a self contained cartridge. So muzzle loading rifles and shotguns, black powder breech loaders, cap and ball revolvers, cannons, mortars, naval guns, et al, are not!firearms.

As long as the powder bag is separate from the projectile and ignition source, you're good to go.

>>573468

Likely cast lead.

>>576237

That thing looks like it would dislocate your shoulder if you fired it from a standing position.

>>579384

Where does Professor Parabellum actually post his designs, before they get reposted other places?

>>579450

Open bolt is just a heavy bolt with a fixed firing pin in most cases, when trigger is released boltface grabs cartridge and as soon as its chambered the fixed firing pin dents the bang button and gun cycles. Closed bolt is practically everything else like an AR for an example.

>>579450

>open/closed bolt

See:

>>573325

>>579384

Could you post as PDF? scribd wants me to join to download.

I'm thinking of making a bunch of shitty homemade guns to sell at the gun buyback so that way I can buy a safe for my guns.

>>579398

I'd like to know this too.

>>579472

I have up to Volume 20 on Professor Parabellum too, am I missing anything more other than the stingray posted above?

>>579456

This too

>>579472

Unfortunately they've gotten wise to that; most buybacks now pay in grocery store gift cards and likewise.

Doesn't stop niggers from trading them for half their value in booze and cigarettes, but what are you going to do?

>>579477

You can buy a giftcard with a giftcard right?

>>579477

Someone please explain why gift cards exist and for what reason retards buy them

>>579489

For people who don't give two shits when they're obligated to get a gift.

>>579489

So when you overwork your employees with bullshit that you were capable of preventing, you can feel good about buying them dinner for one night.

>>579476

>I have up to Volume 20

Damn, I'm behind. I only have up to 17, the .38 revolver.

Doesn't help that he's been omitting volume numbers for a while, so it's hard to know what I might be missing.

>>579603

750, so ask away.

>>579603

Probably lever delayed tbh

>>579821

>Taps the breech for gas to retard the piston.

Clever girl. Why haven't other guns done this?

>>579917

Because you get korobov-tier madness.

>>579804

Was that janky looking Uru smg used by Brazil?

>>562402

Almost there

>>580755

Do you mind posting the non Hoax-tube link, so that checking the channel is feasible?

>>580786

Refresh the thread, right-click the embed, and open it in a new tab.

>>579804

http://www.forgottenweapons.com/maxim-silverman-model-1896-automatic-pistol-video/

>>580755

Yeah unfortunately he stopped updating that project a long time ago. If you check his channel you'll see there has been jack shit following that video. That's why I'm planning to build one myself.

I got a book on how to build an EDM ram, but now I need to isolate the PWM and power components from the control and dither circuitry. Once I've figured it out I'm going to connect it to a RAMPS board and program it for running the EDM. The challenge is that I can do CAD, program C++(same language as arduino), but I'm a complete babby when it comes to electrical schematics. If anyone here knows how to read this stuff I'd love the help.

>>581570

I'll sell you a full ar-15, you just gotta meet me half way. I'll take my rowboat so the fuzz don't catch the engine noise.

>>579769

Freedom