Why do the Marines need to launch f-35s off carriers ? What sort of scenario would they be in without the backup of supper carriers?

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Strelok 02/26/18 (Mon) 06:35:24 cdac45 No.555402

Why do the Marines need to launch f-35s off carriers ? What sort of scenario would they be in without the backup of supper carriers?

Strelok 02/26/18 (Mon) 06:42:24 7bed85 No.555404

Anyplace a gator is actually at without an entire nuclear fleet?

Strelok 02/26/18 (Mon) 06:49:30 2969b2 No.555405

>>555402

>supper

Strelok 02/26/18 (Mon) 06:57:47 8a4c00 No.555406

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>>555402

>What sort of scenario would they be in without the backup of supper carriers?

You should know Strelok, that a military runs on it's stomach. So a lack of serving trays is a major issue for any military force. Not just Marines.

Strelok 02/26/18 (Mon) 08:42:33 083354 No.555419

>>555406

Are you sure this isn't Lockheed trying to claim that the F35 can be launched from a dinner tray?

Strelok 02/26/18 (Mon) 09:09:15 4ca646 No.555426

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>Why do the Marines need to launch f-35s off carriers?

One can start off with why does America even need a dedicated branch for marine infantry, but that's not important; what is important is that the Marine corps needed a V/STOL plane that can be in and out of the battlefield accordingly, and provide cover for their landing troops that answer to their needs.

>What sort of scenario would they be in without the backup of supper carriers?

To cover rapid response forces for when, say China, invades small island chains with landing ships disguised as merchant ships and the navy is needed elsewhere or where anti-ship missiles are prevalent and the US doesn't want to lose their white elephant supper carriers. Besides, the air force will probably be too busy trying to gain aerial supremacy to provide effective cover for the Marines, so they'll still need aircraft that answers to them.

I'm not an expert, I may be wrong

Strelok 02/26/18 (Mon) 09:17:28 644891 No.555428

>>555405

Supper carriers are the backbone of the burger fleet.

Strelok 02/26/18 (Mon) 11:02:52 3ca153 No.555443

>>555428

/thread

Strelok 02/26/18 (Mon) 11:03:21 3ca153 No.555444

>>555443

Also check em!

Strelok 02/26/18 (Mon) 12:01:40 3d7f88 No.555451

>>555402

They don't.

America-class LHD have about the same deck as the FS Charles de Gaulle.

The CdG is cleared for F/A-18E/F Super Hornet operations (and Rafale-M that are even better).

They could easily be fitted to carry STOL fighters and C-2s.

They would have far less plane than a true carrier but still enough for what they're meant to be.

Strelok 02/27/18 (Tue) 00:19:37 df72a6 No.555674

>>555444

Good.

Btw perfect timing for a silly question.

Why does wiki notes the climb rate of Sea Harrier as 250 m/s and that of AV-8B as 75 m/s when they are roughly the same plane with otherwise nearly identical performance?

Strelok 02/27/18 (Tue) 02:08:21 6952fd No.555700

>>555428

>>555405

An army marches on it's stomach. Or in the Burger case, rolls.

Strelok 02/27/18 (Tue) 02:17:29 907671 No.555704

>>555402

First reason is Navy doesn't want to provide air support for them, it would cut into the total aircraft complement of even a supercarrier, and it's easier to make requests from marine command structure.

Second reason is fleets are usually more widely dispersed than people think, having a few harriers at hand is a good thing for a LHD.

Third reason is the fucking brits needed it, they actually pushed the most. Even adopting the harrier is just kind of a weird military aid to UK that lets them keep their pride and pretend they're helping.

>>555404

It's against the landing ops manual, but not inconceivable.

For example in great-power slugfest, the supers would be the first to get taken out. A Russian blue water ship would spam its whole AShM load at the carrier even if it's massive overkill, because it knows corvettes and coastal batteries can easily rape an amphib carrier if it comes into green water zone around Russia. If the worst happened - the marines would have to fly CAP.

Other relevant reasons outlined above.

Strelok 02/27/18 (Tue) 03:01:48 c550f2 No.555733

>>555700

Oh snap!