/k/ - Weapons

>>552095

These are the people that need a helicopter ride.

>>552096

You mean camp reeducation.

>>552097

Sure, if we’re dropping them off at camp 200 miles out to sea from 300ft while they’re wearing a lead lined vest.

Alright folks, I'm that guy who posted the counter prop thread a while back. Handling these guys with kid gloves is precisely what they want you to do- alinsky says to hold your enemy to their own rules whilst completely flouting them yourself.

Here's the thing- it is actually quite logical to point out that calling for gun control enables rapists and murderers by disarming victims. I will repost my thread (wrote it on my phone, never got around to deleting it)

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We're gun owners. We're invested in this expensive lifestyle. You know exactly which length and grain bullet to send down the pipe of your 1-9 twist Sako, or how high to hold your AR over at 350 yards, or how much powder you can stuff under a 147gr 9x19 JFP. It's forms of pleasure are many, and we love them all.

But every damned time some amoral cunt opens up on the crowd, you as a gun owner are expected to shoulder the blame for his behaviour, as if you handed him the rifle and told him to go nuts on those people. You'll get all those side-eyes, the avoided glance, a prematurely ended argument to stop you getting "angry", until those who you know get enough spine to start asking questions and try to get you to lay down your arms.

Here, I'll try to cover the most common in my experience (running counter-prop on twatter) and easily debunked rhetoric and arguments.

>Why do you like guns, anon?

Start with the fun aspect first. Mention how lovely it is getting outside and doing some exercise, then mention things like self defense.

>But guns kill people

So have cars, they kill 30k per year on average. Note that this is a lead in for another argument; what people want in these debates is not a solution, they want your social consent to disarm- cars being banned would affect them, but some "fringe" thing they know nothing about is perfectly ok to strip down and shackle up.

>But a guns only purpose is to kill

Not all killing is bad, or else why arm cops?

>Cops are more trained than you

Several problems with this statement can and should be addressed-

-It's patently false, as most cops don't train anywhere near as much as your average concealed carrier who blows through boxes upon boxes every payday versus every 12 to 18 months. If they doubt this, show them a stage in IPSC. This usually diffrays concerns about static shooting. I've heard it said that some depts here don't give their members more than 30 rounds of live fire training.

-Cops will be at your house at the quickest time of…10 minutes. A home invasion is already done by then, and it's even worse if you're rural. Most often in my country, they don't get to you until an hour and a half after the fact.

-This statement also leaves the implications that only cops have the right to self defense, as they are apparently the only ones qualified to operate a gun, whilst you are trying to run from the axe murderer.

>But why not just ban guns

We all have heard this one. The question asked here is an admission that the person you are speaking to has no idea about guns, and wants the quickest (if completely immoral and ineffective) percieved solution.

Explain how criminals can still get guns in countries with total bans- Honduras has an embarrassing murder rate with them and has a total ban. A great example is how motorbike gangs in Australia pay jewellers and broke machinists really nice money to make stens, owens and luty submachine guns, not including the porous customs service that only checks one container in fifty. Search bikie gang submachine gun for examples.

>But anon, muh *insert spree killing here*

Spree killers strike about much as you have a chance of getting hit by lightning on a clear day.

No amount of spree killing will ever trump your right to self defense. EVER. Banning your gun means that you are left toothless and no safer, as spree killers can still get guns.

>But when will you need it

This is where you follow up with real world examples such as the gun owners self defense corner. They are not interested in "hypotheticals", no matter how much you know they are true. You're a liar trying to defend his/her hobby according to them. Show them.

-It's worth mentioning how gun control enables criminals by disarming victims. I actually use this as an opening line to an overt gun control supporter, as it's a great way of breaking the facade they had when they thought nothing can go wrong. It suddenly happens that you had the nerve to question their moral "superiority", all the while tying up valuable mental resources at the back of their brain fact checking, attempting to counter and assuaging their injured ego. On the surface, this may look like a simple inversion of "why would you give a criminal a gun", but this one has some logic behind it.

We hold the individual responsible for a crime, not the group. But if a group acts in such a way as to use force to deprive someone of something - legally or otherwise- they are responsible for it's absence. Thus, a granny who dies to a home invader and was a gun owner had her life taken by both the murderer and the people using force fo make her disarmed. Voting for gun control is an initiation of force.

>Muh UK, europe, muh australia has no shootings since port arthur

Demonstrably false on all counts. Australia had the Sydney siege and university shootings, alongside near daily gang related shootings in Sydney and Melbourne. Both UK and the EU have suffered horrific killing sprees despite being under strict gun control- the worst of which didn't even use a gun.

>Muh 33k gun death per year

This statistic is dishonest as it lumps 21k suicides alongside murder in order to puff the numbers to something comparable to car and pool deaths. Additionally, the statistic in the US is biased heavily by gang on gang activity in gun controlled states.

>>552101

No, we're not, you corporate stooge.

>>552106

I like this. Figure it’d be a good idea to keep articles on hand of defensive shootings to present in arguments.

>Muh school shooting

Show them real world examples where when citizens were armed, the killer was stopped long before the police were called. Note especially very low bodycount ones like the texas waffle house shooting and the uber driver stopping it dead. You can actually go the high road and dictate with absolute certainty that they do not have the moral right to strip you of property unless you also get to steal their car. Works especially well on those who actually have a shred of decency in their soul, and lets you spot who doesn't.

>>552106

>But a guns only purpose is to kill

Guns purpose is smashing objects at other objects at high speeds, water guns, paint guns, nailguns

>>552117

This one gets dismantled quickly if it is not backed up with rhetoric, and should be linked to pieces such as "So are olympic trap shooters training to kill or win medals?"

>>552118

>muh freedoms

>from a upside-down royalist subject no less

What the hell makes you scream over your hamburgers, when I suggest not wasting fuel and metal on wasteful killings? If you want them dead so badly, then punch their skulls in with compressed air.

>>552106

>>552107

>>552120

Thanks cunt. Your'e alright

>>552120

>I suggest not wasting fuel and metal on wasteful killings

>punch their skills in with compressed air

That's still unacceptably cost ineffective, the equipment required (and the industrial requirements needed) to mass produce air compressed to a sufficient pressure to kill will get pricey if you have more than a few hundred executions to get through. Granted, it's a nice quick death for them, but does granting them a graceful exit really warrant that sort of cost and effort? You're in the USA, you have some nice huge deserts or Alaska to dump them in (without water, food, or appropriate clothing/gear) let the problem take care of itself out in the middle of nowhere in approximately 5-7 days.

>>552163

Was meant for >>552125

>>552163

>>552125

Ayy yo hol up serious question here. If you have 1000 tards to kill what would be cheaper. The compressed gas/air thing or to take all 1000 on some kind of mass transit into the middle of the desert or sky? Or how many fags to kill before you end up with diminishing returns or a certain option becomes more cheaper than the other.

>Psychotic killer obtains a firearm illegally to commit a crime in a zone where it's a crime to carry a firearm?

>better outlaw legal posession of guns

Are those people

>legally retarded

>enemy combatants

>brainwashed

>all of the above combination of aformentioned

>>552156

>he threw his ass onto the line of fire because he wasn't allowed to bear fire arms as a security guard

>>552158

>children should never do drills

because being prepared for a bad even is racist and stressful.

>Outlaw assault fire drills, teach fires not to start.

My mother had Defense Classes when they ran around the school until the teacher yelled "FLASH FROM BEHIND" as an order to fall on the ground and cover neck with arms in case of nuclear strike by either Russia or NATO

>>552125

>wasting fuel and metal on wasteful killings

It's a joke. Physical removal, at least the kind defined by Hoppe, does not actually entail throwing people out of aircraft. Then again most of these memeing fucks haven't even read Hoppe, so maybe they're not joking. And Hoppe approaches freedom from the monarchist perspective, so making fun of him for being a subject of the crown is equally stupid.

Those people always parrot the same talking points, it help them not to think about the world around them. No one offers a solution only the same mantra. They're vapid and pig like, their attention span only last 2 days before the next thing take their retarded brains, which did happen, now they have trump to bitch at again. Once the greedy merchants are pushing the smart gun meme on to the public place.

Can anyone answer this? Where exactly the "only 3% of America owns a weapon." stat is coming from?

>>552181

The infinite source of wisdom known as myass

>>552170

Fuel costs can be cut dramatically for transporting the 'deceased to be' as you don't need to be concerned about passenger comfort or even if some of them are crushed/suffocated to death in transit. An ISO-6346 (22G1) standardised shipping container should be able to hold a few dozen people pretty easily, if you can get a crew to pack them in nice and tight you might be able to get up to 100 into each container, and you can fit a fair number of shipping containers onto a truck for long distance transport at relatively low cost. As an added bonus, you'll suffer a fair amount of breakage (rising with passenger density within the container) during transport, meaning that a number of convicts in each shipment will arrive pre-executed (which can only boost your efficiency numbers).

Hitler was one stupid fucking autist for using gas.

>>552181

Isn't the claim '3% of the US population owns 50% of the guns in the US'? It's not at all unusual for the progressives to start embellishing their claims as they repeat them over, and over, and over.

>>552163

It is done every day to kill animals at the slaughter. If it is so efficient for killing livestock that outnumbers Americans by the millions then it would be most cost effective for capital punishment.

>>552183

Yeah, that the actual claim, but I want to know, where is this claim coming from. It sound like something misquoted or willfully taking out of context.

>muh politicians afraid of the NRA

>NRA just pays them off!

It's funny how the left just assumes that the NRA is funded by some billionaire sugar daddy. The NRA gets nearly all of its funding from small donations.

I guess it's because the left's rent-a-rioters and media matters astroturfers really are funded by billionaire sugar daddies so that's all they know.

>>552183

>Hitler was one stupid fucking autist for using gas

To delouse prisoners? I'm afraid I don't follow you.

>>552187

You'll never find a source, prog statistics come from quoting other progs with each successive prog exaggerating the statistic it a bit more than the last one.

I think they're up to 70% of college women being raped now, it started at 20% and even that was horseshit.

>>552117

Fuck off

>>552187

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/09/19/just-three-percent-of-adults-own-half-of-americas-guns/?utm_term=.7662daa2d86b

Washington Post cites the Guardian

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/sep/19/us-gun-ownership-survey

The Guardian cites an "unpublished Harvard/Northeastern survey result summary, obtained exclusively by the Guardian and the Trace"

https://www.thetrace.org/2016/09/harvard-northeastern-gun-ownership-survey-research/

The Trace just says that they have seen the survey and that you can trust them to represent it accurately. None of these publications mention any name or title in their reporting on this survey.

So, that'll be fake news then.

>>552190

low tier b8 m8. I r8 0/8.

>>552192

>Not realising that 1100000.847% of women are being raped, constantly, from the moment of conception through to their deaths.

>>552194

Where'd they get six million from, anon? You got some ashkenazi heritage you wanna tell everyone else about?

>>552197

I could get those shipping containers for 2/3's the cost.

>>552194

>>552194

>Funding: This research was supported in part by grants from the Joyce Foundation, the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation and the Soros Foundation.

So the survey is also suspect.

>>552208

привет

>>552208

иди нахуй CNN

>>552208

I'm getting arrested for it,lol.

>>552212

хахаха

>>552208

ботов здесь нет, только гиро

>>552208

beep boop cyka blyat boop beep

>>552208

cheeki breeki, vodka vodka

>>552208

>tfw the fattest dumbass I know from my Army days is actually a Russian double agent

I wonder what Russian sounds like with an Alabama accent.

>>552260

Just imagining it makes me giggle

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>>552272

Half of those traits are intrinsically Slavic, not just Russian. Also, you're wrong on the bad health one, you have to be fucking immune to the plague and everything else to survive in these second world shitholes.

>>552273

Is that Chris Christie? Did he get exiled to Russia after he ate all of Trump's donuts?

>>552272

The general disarmament of the Russian people is a real shame. I can only imagine the awesome hijinks they'd get into and the cool shit they'd invent if Russian law would let its people have a proper gun culture.

>>552273

>tractor mud rally

This is the greatest thing I never knew I wanted.

>>552097

Or a nice free rubber necklace.

>>552296

Ooga booga, go back to Africa.

>>552306

Fuck off. Marxists, and their talmudic masters do not deserve clean deaths. They have inflicted too much suffering upon the world to be killed with fucking air guns. Thousands of years of bloodletting, sodomy, miscegenation, sacrilege, and subversion warrants more than a hiss and a thud.

>>552300

>headsman's sword.jpg

Why would you use a sword to behead these people? Traditionally anyone of direct Royal descent had the right to be beheaded with a sword rather than an axe, but that's not going to apply to anyone in the US these days.

>>552310

Control yourself man. The important thing is that the executions are as low cost as possible, they've sucked enough money out of the people already :^)

>>552197

The fun thing is that you pay for the removal by the fucks not taking welfare.

>>552197

>I'll assume 100 miles is the minimum distance for abandonment with low rescue chance making the round trip cost of one truck is $110 so times 5 is $550. Now I wonder if building a train line into the Mojave will "pay for itself" in under one year.

It's probably more expensive than that to get a regiment or two of men to force march them out into the desert. I also imagine that the helicopter fuel, parts, and pilots are going to add up to a lot more than ~$110 per person.

>>552352

Does he think that is clever? I do not understand.

>>552363

>>552367

>/k/onga line

>>552272

>implying that mobile dump truck pool isn't a fucking brilliant idea

There's money to be made there.

>>552208

If the Kremlin is willing to pay people to shitpost and troll leftists then why wouldn't they be recruiting here? After all, we'd do it for free.

So I'm curious, /k/, why shouldn't we have better background checks? :')

>>552438

Shall not be infringed.

>>552438

I don't know, ask my albanian smuggler. :^)

>>552438

I'm in favor of ocular pat-downs and background checks.

>>552438

Because the government will inevitably abuse them to restrict the rights of law-abiding citizens to bear arms, while simultaneously shipping guns by the truckload to ISIS and Mexican drug cartels.

It's the same reason I oppose laws banning gun ownership by people who are insane. You just know that the minute those laws become commonplace, the government is going to add "distrusts the government" and "disagrees with the powers that be" to the list of things that classify someone as "insane."

>>552438

Because we don't need them. A gun shop owner's judgement is a strict enough background check, and if a gun shop owner doesn't give a shit, it inevitably comes to bite them in the ass. The only reason this doesn't happen more is because they can currently say "w-well I gave them the extortion paperwork and it went through!" If they couldn't use the current background checks as an excuse to not do a basic character check, they'd be more liable and thus enforce their own private checks before selling weapons to strangers.

>>552460

Also this. It's like how rape victims aren't allowed to own a handgun to protect themselves from rape in most blue states.

>>552438

>We need better background checks

>Still completely useless when law enforcement forget to add them to the no gun buy list.

define "better". Still won't change anything.

>>552467

Partially concealed carry laws, but most rape victims go and see a therapist/sometimes a psychiatrist. In many blue states, this is grounds for denying a weapon (and definitely grounds for denying CCW) because they use seeing a therapist because you were raped as an excuse for "mentally ill," nevermind that owning a firearm would probably make them feel safer and help integrate them back into society.

>>552183

>Hitler was one stupid fucking autist for using gas

>caring enough about your typhus problems in your working camps to supply zyklon b, an expensive pesticide, is stupid and autistic

>>552478

>They still don't prevent people who can't legally own firearms from getting one.

What do you mean? Guns can be only found in american gun stores, sold by racist fascist bigots funded by the NRA :^)

If you ban something it ceases existing.

>>552494

What is he anyways?

>>552503

Mexican.

>>552503

hwhite American

>>552503

la creatura…

>>552503

>Nikolas de Jesus Cruz

He's a white jew.

>>552125

>Compressed air

>Kill people like cattle and make them into burgers, t. American.

Top lel

>>552528

No. I'd prefer mulch, actually. That way something good could come out of them, like burgers crafted from the flesh of a well-fed cow.

>>552503

Spic kike

>>552505

>>552512

>>552514

>>552515

>>552589

All of the above?

Alright, /k/, let’s up the difficulty a bit. Let’s call BS on her speech.

>>552601

Apparently the guy was pretty identitarian and considered himself white. That might have something to say about the racial makeup of whites in the US. I personally give no fucks. Kid's a scumbag.

>>552604

>Shaved head

already looking bad

>Choking tears

+5 credibility bonus

>citing japan and australia

Two nations with lower populations that are more homogeneous than ours? Hmm, who would have thought. Not that mass shooting are even an issue when compared to opiod deaths, or police/black on white violence.

If you want to stop shootings, stop white genocide, stop capitalist pharmaceuticals and sensationalist capitalist media, and start purging autists and degenerates.

Of course that would involve stringing this bald cunt from a lamp post, so I can see why she would be against it.

>>552617

This is a joke right? They're being ironic?

right?

>>552618

These are the same guys that post and nonironically believe the red team planner screenshot.

>>552616

>>552604

>a 98%+ homogenous ethnostate with no guns because ZOG outlawed them when they rewrote the constitution

>a penal colony turned nanny state without niggers

shame she was given the survivor role in the CIA stageplay called schoolshooting 345 and 1/2: the final insult

great MKultra trauma based conditioning method acting though. went over survivor's guilt and trauma of classmates being >murdered in only 2 days

Did the CIA niggers have budget cuts?

They should start selling the CP they plant on people they can't car accident.

>>552604

>hurr look at japan

Fucking amerikikes; the only people who have guns now are the SDF, Police, and Yakuza. The rest of us resort to killing with knives and clubs, and defending ourselves with knives and clubs.

Before the Occupation, Japan had decent gun laws put into place after the Meiji Restoration: no license was required to own a hunting rifle/shotgun, and handguns (ownership, not carrying) were allowed on a permit basis. The cops carried sabres instead of pistols because crime using guns was so low, that it didn't justify arming the police.

While the Taisho and Showa periods saw stricter limitations on how many rounds one can have after a series of ideological/political assassinations and coup attempts, but the basic law stood. Only after the defeat, and subsequent occupation of Japan, did crime rates rise; corruption by both the Japanese police and US occupation forces allowed tens of thousands of former IJA arms to flow to common criminals, and worst of all to the Zainichi Koreans who stole food, supplies, and land (they'd claim burnt out patches of land as theirs by forging documents; local government and records were usually burnt in the air raids and claims to the contrary could not be verified). In fact, the Yakuza, for all the hate against them, usually started off as local self-defence groups to counter these criminals, and the police would turn a blind eye to them or ask for support.

I'm not saying things were pearly before the war here in Japan, but it's infuriating to hear stupid bitch niggers about how great Japan is because we don't have guns; modern Japan was built on violence and that order is now solidified by state-sanctioned violence.

>war ends

>gook jews jews, starts fight

>yakuza fights back

>gook jews able to assimilate as "average japanese" by running pachinko, muh civil rights

>yakuza continues to fight them

>police bans violence

>gook jews continue to jew legally

>yakuza is now largely a controlled op, composed mostly of gook jews and police

>>552628

>Koreans who stole food, supplies, and land (they'd claim burnt out patches of land as theirs by forging documents; local government and records were usually burnt in the air raids and claims to the contrary could not be verified).

Huh, so koreans are like an asian hybrid of kikes and ukrainians,

>>552628

>that order is now solidified by state-sanctioned violence.

The kanji for 県 is a head hanging upside down as proof of Government's monopoly over violence to provide the service of justice, right?

>>552604

>shrieking voice

>intermittent clapistanis, cheering, and chanting

>crocodile tears

>self righteous, "our generation will be the change!"

Fuck I can't believe I share a generation with her

>>552641

Too bad the mutt didn't ice her too, if she was even there in the first place.

>>552628

Doesn't every gook household have a copy off the talmud? Fuck man, It must be rough, at least here we have the possibility of armed resistance, although the ability of "conservatives" to rise up is questionable.

>>552618

This is the average american militia. When you see estimations for american militia members/rebels who would fight in a civil war, I would say a good portion are vid related. When the shooting starts these people will either be surrendering, dying, or running. None of it making us look good.

>>552618

>>552617

>>552645

Ｗｅｒｅｎ’ｔ　ｔｈｅｙ　ＴＲＳ？

>>552618

>>552617

Apparently the leader was pissed the ADL didn't have his organization listed as a hate group. I wish I saved the link, it's in one of the /pol/ florida shooter threads

>>552647

I found it

>Jereb would bring attention to his group by claiming a connection to Cruz, but Jereb has always been somewhat of a publicity seeker,” wrote SPLC. “In 2014, in fact, he wrote to us to complaint that we had not already listed ROF as a hate group.”

http://archive.is/m6utB

https://news.vice.com/en_us/article/vbp37y/white-supremacist-tries-to-walk-back-made-up-story-about-nikolas-cruz-blames-media

What a faggot

>>552646

Yeah, they were. I was speaking in general terms on the state of american militias, and they fit the stereotype.

>>552604

>"our generation will be the change"

Well she's not really wrong, demographically speaking unless something changes. Her generation is more and more non-white, which will be more and more anti-constitution.

>>552656

That trend has already died out, as of two years ago, anon. Give it a rest.

>>552187

>>552181

I'm rather certain that's an intentional Lefty misquote of the popular mon laiba, punisher skull, threeper mantra of the "3% Rule".

>>552633

In 1920's they were a we wuzing annoyance, the land grab was done with Soviet hands after the war, where Poles were forcibly evicted by the USSR from Leopolis (now >lviv) either to Silesia or to Siberia

As you can see from ukrop's post history, the afficionado of real incest chimping out about muh rapes moffuga, bix nood we wuz gierojs is caused by the fact they cannot ever face an armed opponent putting a stop to their nigger behavior is a grave injustice, first Operation Vistula (they should've been relocated 6 feet underground or to zoos instead), now Russian reclamation of Crimea.

>>552629

>12 shitposts from this ID in a single thread

>posts own butthurt about Ukrainians even when it's completely unrelated

Hey look, it's the Eternal Buttmad Poolan again!

>>552633

>because ukranians fucked you guys over regarding land during the 1920s right?

We didn't fuck polish guys, but we did rape every single Polish woman back then as a nationalists first and Soviet soldiers later. As a good Catholics they were rarely doing any abortion, add to this the mighty Kraut cock and you'll understand why there's basically no actual Polans left in Poland. I'm just kidding, but the EBP (Eternal Buttmad Poolan) will actually take this all seriously and gonna be mad as hell, I promise you

>>552716

>but the EBP (Eternal Buttmad Poolan) will actually take this all seriously and gonna be mad as hell, I promise you

Promise of mine is the bestest promise :^) I swear I could literally write stories about how we were burning your kids alive alongside with our alien friends using their lasers and the Eternal Buttmad Poolan STILL would be unironically buttmad over it.

>>552718

I guess fantasizing about gruesomely murdering civilians is the only source of national pride you have because when face-to-face with an army you roll over and cry.

>>552721

Nah, I don't see any of your usual butthurt passion in that post. Get your shit together and come back when you're normally hilarious. You may leave your email actually, I'd like to have a stable source of fun.

>>552608

Guy was on an Instagram group, not irl. Or maybe that's a story engineered by trolls too.

>>552715

>>552718

>>552721

Stop acting like a nigger any time

>>552721

Didn't mean to quote this post

How come these shooters never use a Kalashnikov rifle considering it's pretty easy to enable the full fun mode

>>552732

They're not in CIA's budget for operations on the US territory.

>>552171

Gen Y/millenials I hear are the first generation in the US to not have any firearms related stuff in school.

>>552183

>der ewidge anglo

>thinks gas was used

>thinks the holohoax happened

Get a load of this schlomo.

>>552804

>Gen Y/millenials I hear are the first generation in the US to not have any firearms related stuff in school.

do you mean shooting/safety classes?

In my high school we had trips to the shooting range and graded performance, also fire drills and crowd control scenarios.

One of the tips we were given is that when someone starts to panic you should knock him out cold immediately to maintain frame and stop the panic from spreading.

>>552804

Yeah your correct about that

>>552811

Basiclyy liberal city dwelling parrents threw autismo fit about how guns are scarry and muh guns triggered autisim after it brusied my childs shoulder.

>>552604

Feelings > Facts: The Speech

>>552289

Those tractors are way faster, modified with nitrous etc, it's a race.

>>552628

That's a really sad story.

>>552156

>NRA giving records

Since 1980-something. They pretend that's what they gave last year. It's not. They gave out a total of just over a Million.

>>552160

>he's a white supremacist!

>the majority of the people he shot were white non-jews

o-okay

why don't all the gun control people that hate freedom move to a country that already has the utopian fantasy laws in place? why do they have to try and force their stupid utopian 'if we're gun free nobody will hurt anyone ever again' fantasy on everyone, everywhere, all the time. inquiring minds want to know.

just leave already, you hate filled (gun) control freaks.

the communist utopia is a lie

have a nice day

>>552858

>why don't parasites switch to a dying host

No idea my ayy friend

>the communist utopia is a lie

>the alien has never seen a concentration/labor camp in his life

To what extent can you suffer boating accidents? Of course you can buy a rifle or pistol off grid and there's no way to trace the purchase back to you, but what about NFA items?

If you have an SBR or suppressor and you, say, move states without contacting the ATF are you pretty much garunteed to get a visit from the fbi party van?

"Think of the children! Not the millions ripped apart and sold for parts before they're even born, but they tiny number of schoolkids that you didn't even kill! We have to save lives, but only if a gun is involved!"

t. commie gun grabber

interesting parallel with prohibition here:

https://twitter.com/PollySpin/status/965244074885369858

interesting take on the current legal situation (is improving for rights):

https://twitter.com/TheColorArmy/status/965308409326329857

The communist utopia is a lie!

>>552863

Don't let 'em make you a liar, anon. Talk to an attorney, and don't talk to the feds. Say 'I want to cooperate with any investigation, but I need to speak to an attorney first.' Not that they'd bring the party van, cause how would they know, right?

Then sue them for rights infringement.

>>552881

Is this bait made to make me think that 3230ee thinks it's bait so that I call him out for thinking it's bait when it was an ironic shitpost?

>>552628

So my granny in law wasn't lying about her father having several guns then, huh.

>>552890

>cause how would they know, right?

presumably because they have names and addresses of everyone with an NFA item.

if you moved, which they'd know because you would have to claim residency, then they'd know you either have an nfa item without updating it/or that it is illegal in it's new location. or you say you lost it, but then you go to prison because you have to immediately report nfa items lost/stolen. cant say it's broken because a broken suppressor is still a regulated nfa item.

i fear there is no good ~totally above the aboard~ solution. just need to hope something that considers suppressors hearing protection passes, but there's no real hope for that. especially considering r9k spergs keep shooting school children

>>552903

>claim residency, then they'd know

Claim residency to whom? The county? The state? Do they share that info with dog killers like the ATF?

Residency is a legal term, ya know. A resident is, for example, a Canadian citizen here for work or an extended visit/vacation, but not permanently. Cops trick people with that 'are you a resident' question allot.

I don't know enough about the unlawful restrictions on your rights to really say, but it sounds like you agreed to notify if you move. Talk to an attorney. Maybe they'll know of an above board exception that will allow you to avoid tinnitus and not have to 'claim residency' like some syrup drinking hockey player. Otherwise, stock up on ear pro.

What do you call 5 lawyers at the bottom of the ocean? a good start

Also, did you know ==the utopia is a lie!==

>>552911

Definitely you've given me some things to think about. It appears like there are companies that can buy an NFA device for you for a fee.

Also will have to do some research into what relationship the ATF has with the other branches of the police state. If there really wouldnt be a way for them to know about the purchase if I moved unless there were more purchases, then I suppose the middleman wouldn't be necessary.

Jewish Democrat Sheriff (((Scott Israel))) headed the department that saw 39 visits to the home of Nikolas Cruz over a period of several years for disturbances ranging from violent outburts to self-harm and threats of violence. Under Florida law, he should have been involuntarily committed for psychiatric evaluation at the very least, but over and over and over again local law enforcement did nothing.

Then Israel goes on national television and says that more gun laws are needed. Not that his department should have Baker-acted Cruz's crazy ass, not that they should have followed proper procedure–that Americans shouldn't have guns.

Note that this Jew also has bastard children born from affairs, and he allegedly impregnated a 17-year-old spic.

This man needs to be dragged out of public office and publically tarred and feathered.

http://archive.is/O7ljV

http://archive.is/dTxdr

http://archive.is/QNkTI

This guy is a vulnerable target and intimately involved with the Leftist political machine–recall that this is Debbie Wasserman-Schultz's district. This could be a way to get another foot in the door of unraveling their corruption.

>>552972

Every. Single. Time.

I wonder if he's also running interference against anyone, or any other agency, examining evidence.

>>552183

>hitler used gas

For fumigating clothes, yeah. Embed because it's an hour and a half long.

>>552095

If people think that this happens because of Trump then there a new level of retarted, and this is coming from someone who doesn’t like Trump .

>>552208

Cto?

>>552106

Or you can tell them to shove it up their ass and fuck off. It's much easier really, these niggers don't give two shits about logic. Why do I say that? Because within their own internal logic, none of this shit makes sense.

>Lets ban guns so only the police and government have guns

>but the police are white racists who execute blacks

>and the government is ran by literally Hitler

This is next level retardation.

>>552352

>meet me in public so I can take your guns from your dead hands

>but don't bring the gun while I'm killing you

Look by all means, if you're going to kill me to try to disarm me go right ahead man and try it, but you're on crack if you think I'm not going to be armed. How the fuck are you even going to take it from my dead hands if they're not in my hands in the first place?

>>552503

He's El Goblino.

>>552732

Because the AR15 is the more common and more American rifle. If you wanted to attack the majority of gun owners you'd have the majority gun used, even though 7.62X39 would make more sense in a school/mass shooting.

>>553257

very easy, what are those even, crayons/lipstic fillers but ammo shaped?

To be honest I'm just surprised people seem so hell-bent on banning salt rifles and hi cap clipazines when the AWB didn't do shit at preventing Columbine

>>553357

It's not surprising once you realize commies don't actually care about saving lives, but rather just banning guns to make it easier to round up/kill political opponents.

>>553357

do you still fail to understand that bans don't solve the problem and it's not about saving lives but increasing ZOG's control over the population?

>>553340

dummy rounds

>>553367

Oh. I'm such a dummy

>>552097

You can't reeducate niggers into being white.

>>553375

not to totally derail, but have you seen how many black people on social media are genuinely saying that Black Panther represents black culture and achievement? A movie made by Jews about a fictional country with fictional technology that has never even been touched by blacks is being claimed as the pinnacle of their culture.

Absolutely hilarious.

>>553383

i would rather stab or shoot them

you have fun with your cranes and shit

>>553383

Except then you've got a few hundred thousand + wet corpses to deal with. Digging mass graves gets tedious, and expensive. If you dump them out in the middle of the desert to die from dehydration then nature takes care of the bodies for you, in a nice remote place where they inconvenience nobody.

>>553383

>>553391

>>553392

Wasteful, wasteful, wasteful! Haven't any of you learned from the cattle industry? What the fuck's with the hollow hoax propaganda? Isn't the stuff over there supposed to not be filled with that crap?

>>553392

>implying it happenned

>>553416

That sounds like something a jew would say. Just toss the corpses in the pit and be done with it.

>>552331

>Why would you use a sword to behead these people? Traditionally anyone of direct Royal descent had the right to be beheaded with a sword rather than an axe,

I've never heard that. From what I've read the headsman used which ever tool he preferred, and a lot of them preferred swords because they "cut cleaner" since you have more blade length. The Saudis use them very efficiently.They use 1 handed swords and they can take your head off with a quick swipe.

>>553416

>Is Jewish meat edible?

Eating parasites was never a good idea.

>>553565

I'm not actually sure where I heard that, some extra research would suggest you're right - in Britain at least. Beheading was originally the Saxon method of execution and was reinstated by William the Conqueror AKA William the Bastard to execute the leader of the Earls Rebellion in the 1070's. It was then used as an alternative to being hung - or hung, drawn, and quartered - when a noble was convicted of a capital crime. Simon Fraser, the 11th Lord Lovat, was beheaded with an axe in 1747 on tower hill for his role in the Jacobite rebellion after that I can't find any records for beheading in Britain after that point. There are several records of beheading with an axe taking several blows to get the job done (usually because the headsman had been drinking beforehand to get up the nerve for the execution), but it usually seems to have been accepted, because the guy had been sentenced to death so fuck him.

>>552083

Hey, /k/. I have an idea to get illegal SBRs and have the ATF not care. Just act like you're "destroying" it for muh chillin on national television and you're fine. :^)

http://www.nbc12.com/story/37541723/gun-owner-destroys-ar-15-in-viral-video

http://archive.is/0DwPw

(I'm not responsible if any of you fucks actually does this and has your dog pewpewed by some ATF guys.)

>>553882

lel I reported that moron to the ATF.

>>552503

>What is he anyways?

A Jewish-Hispanic. I've tested this phrase on liberals with regards to this incident and it pisses them off to no end. If they bring up the white nationalist hoax, I simply drudge up the information debunking it and double down again with the Jewish-Hispanic label, referring them to the material where he talks about his biological mother being a kike. After that, they typically disengage, frustrated.

>>553257

Spread a meme on normie social media that snapcaps can be re-purposed as untraceable ammunition, capable of being smuggled through airport scanners.

>>553814

Don't use the term woke unironically.

>.577 t-rex and other stopping rifle cartridges are less destructive than .223/5.56

>A civil war era Howitzer or a maxim gun are less dangerous than an AR-15

People actually unironically believe such things

>>554428

Is this an edit?

>>554454

It's the brand new Glockzi 10.

>>554435

XCKD are massive leftist tools, of course it is.

>>554454

>Negotiating Rights Away holds a non-white child at gunpoint

If only

>>554436

>Human brain works like ZOG-programmed AI and won't smash through cardboard easily, maybe swerving a bit

>Humans don't recognize fake lines

Hope they get a terrible self-driving (((accident))) where a car smashes into a tree at 120 mph in urban area.

>>554454

I could be wrong but it looks like a mouser muzzle and baretta trigger.

>>554454

That's clearly an MS-13 assault rifle with a barrel shroud.

>>554524

>barrel shroud

Is that the shoulder thing that goes up?

>>554560

>projecting the NRA as a woman

No wonder they make you lose your rights.

>>552197

Why not just death march 'em over the edge of a steep cliff or canyon? Better yet, have them all handcuffed together in a long chain so there's no hope of survival once the first few take the dive.

>>554603

>gunmans bullets are faster!

>teachers cant protect themselves!

Does he think the bullets race one another?

>>554603

Oh hey! It's this asshole!

>>554603

>banning weapons stopped school shooters

What do they put in the water in the USA that makes people so fucking retarded?

>>554603

>1911 master race

welcome to C L O W N W O R L D

enjoy your stay at Clown News Network resorts and casino

>>554608

If a person shooting a gun dies their bullets disappear so shooting faster bullets than the ones being shot at you is what makes the difference between who will win a gun fight.

>>554622

Marxism.

>>554622

Estrogen. It's a proven fact the drinking water in the areas these "people" congregate is full of it.

>>554642

Energy delivered is based on speed and mass, 5.56 delivers three times the energy on impact than an 9mm or .45.

But yes the hand gun you posted is an exception, delivering more energy than the 5.56.

>>554658

All of them.

>>553379

They're literal bush apes dumber than the average gorilla by a testable margin, I'm not sure they're capable of distinguishing fiction from reality.

>>554454

A beretta 92 shoved up the ass of a mini Uzi.

>>554658

Just one, me.

>>553948

Should be "woke" vs redpilled

>>554454

kinda looks like a famas

https://www.facebook.com/IJRBlue/videos/1992834814306407/

Creates video of himself creating an NFA item.

ASSAULT RIFLE 15S

>>552083

>That fucking grammar

The education system has gone to shit.

>>554603

That's just telling me that we need to arm our teachers with 7.62×25mm Tokarev.

>>554723

the math checks out, the mistake is the original assumption of 3 school shootings a week. that smells like bullshit and there is no context for that 1.4 percent. also statistics are dumb.

>>552972

What should we do to get this information out there then?

>>554725

>3rd pic

<implying only whites say this

<what is blm

<what is la raza

<what are American non-whites who like funs

t. beaner

>>554731

Except the mat doesn't check out. Aside from the assumption of 3 school shootings per week it assumes that each school shooting takes out the entire school.

>>554725

>which will inevitably disarm the most endangered groups and take away their last meaningful recourse for self defense.

Those "endangered groups" are the people committing the most gun crimes and they are committing them against other people in those "endangered groups". The problem isn't that they aren't armed.

>>554725

>What is the teacher with a glock and 30 kids going to do?

Is this a trick question? The teacher or janitor or principal or p.e. teacher or lunch lady will shoot. These people are on the scene cops arrive after shit goes down and stand around outside with the resource officer while shots continue to be fired apparently

>>554723

Someone shooting themselves in the head in a school parking lot counts as a school shooting, its like how most gun deaths are suicides.

>>554738

Black on black crime is a daily event, and it happens multiple times a day.

>>554738

These pictures are hilariously stupid.

>White people are the only ones who commit shootings. Only about 500 people a year die in mass shootings.

>It's awesome that they always move the goalpost to AFTER 9/11 and don't count Muslim attacks abroad.

>Comparing an inanimate objects with multiple functions to a live animal with instincts and behavioral patterns. Also, shit facebook artist has shit art style.

>>554713

>3 shootings a week; since it's been 8 weeks, implies 24 shootings so far.

It's 8 weeks into 2018 so far, so following this number means there have supposedly been 24 shootings so far. I'm assuming this person wrote this when the propaganda outlets claimed there have been 18 shootings in 2018, which was on the 14th of February, or 6 weeks into 2018. Referring to a rebuttal another strelo/k/ made, we can see this to be complete and veritable BULLSHIT. Screencap in >>552307 related.

>>554731

>the mistake is the original assumption of 3 school shootings a week.

That's high, but I suspect it's not as high as it initially seems. The issue is that he's equivocating school shootings (wannabe drug dealer beaner HS kid brings a gun onto school campus to shoot rival wannabe drug dealer nigger HS kid, no one else is involved except rarely by accident) with mass indiscriminate school shootings like this one. Nobody really cares about the first kind, which is why they can happen fairly often without hearing about specific incidents on the national news.

>>554757

Most sharks are cool bros and you literally just need a big magnet to make them swim away since they have an extrasensory organ that relies (to some extent) on bioelectrical properties. Only bull sharks and great whites are really assholes when they aren't provoked.

>>554769

Oceanic white tips are probably the worst.

>>552604

>her

/pol/ is right you know. Black men loves guns and Asians understand self defense rights. It’s Hispanic underminding the second and first amendment.

>>552106

Also, must gun-related deaths happen with unregistered/illegal guns, don't they?

>>554725

>giving someone the means to defend themselves will make them more vulnerable

Only liberals.

>>552893

>it's bait when it was an ironic shitpost?

>ironic shitposting cant also be classed as bait

Stop doing drugs, kiwifag.

>>554837

There's a meme going around that purports a correlation between firearms ownership and the likelihood of being a victim of violent crime. The SocProg mind willingly conflates cause with effect to come to the conclusion that owning a gun makes you a victim.

Whereas anyone with two brain cells to rub together can see that if you're likely to need to defend yourself, suddenly having the means to defend yourself becomes a priority.

>>553274

Taco Bell doesn't sell Kids' Meals.

>>554454

>>554673

Beretta/UZI hybrid is my vote as well.

>>554931

They removed kids meals at the earliest in in July of 2013. That post was made late 2012.

https://archive.fo/3IY9a

>>554723

Statistics are the greatest lie ever told.

t average of 3 legs per resident of household.

Also, the average earnings at goldman sachs are a few hundred thousand dollars an hour :^)

>>554725

>Complete nuclear disarmament

FINALLY THE WEST CAN KEEP THE GENE POOL CLEAN BY HAVING A WAR EVERY GENERATION LEADING TO HIGHEST GLOBAL CIVILIZATIONAL ADVANCEMENT

Look at history of conflict by continents.

>>554757

> Imagine if we had domesticated Great Whites as pets and hunting companions.

50-70 years by breeding the friendliest of a generation.

>>553144

How do they not realized that the Second Amendment was used in a guerrilla campaign to fight against slavery in Missouri.

>>555018

That was only tested on mammals. Not sure if it would work on birds or fish.

>>553379

I wonder how many libs would shit there pants once they fund out that the original Black Panthers were pro-open carry.

>>554723

You want a list?

- Liberals claim there are more mass shootings than there are. For example they claim there are hundreds already in 2018. This is false, there has only been a single mass shooting at a school in 2018.

- So it's actually 1 shooting divided by 8 weeks to get 0.125 shootings per week.

- 2018 isn't over, we are only in week 8, so they can't say what the average per week is. This flawed assumption let them increase the result a hundred fold.

- It's like right after 9/11 saying that the hourly death rate from terrorists is 3000 and extrapolating that to 25 million Americans would die per year, and every American would be dead in 15 years.

- Could be that we have zero shootings for the remaining 52 weeks of 2018, leading us to have 1 school shooting per 52 weeks, getting 0.019 per week.

- The school has 36 weeks but the year has 52, so they almost doubled the end result just on that one.

- They fail to count private schools, but I guess that's ok since private security there stops all shootings before they start.

It gets progressively worse from there I don't have all night.

>>554737

>Aside from the assumption of 3 school shootings per week it assumes that each school shooting takes out the entire school.

Bwahahaha how did I miss that one? Holy shit these people are retarded!

>>554781

>implying non-whites ever acquire weapons legally

>>555055

I can’t blame them. In Democrap cites it’s practically illegal to buy guns.

>>555059

Stay safe anon and any fuckers who try to hurt you, friends and family. REMOVE THEM

>>555059

I fucking hate the bay area, nothing but spics pajeets niggers and chinks now. Violent crime is on the rise and guess who's responsible? Spics pajeets niggers and chinks.

>>555083

Just today I convinced my mom to buy a pistol and get a conceal carry permit.

>>552163

You don't need that much pressure to kill people. The air isn't just blown at their face, it's used to drive a piston which then moves at a high speed and punches a hole in their head.

>>555047

Why don't you try it out mr. Ayy lmao?

>>552467

>pic

What cucked country was that? The Jewnited Kangdumb?

>>555083

I was telling my mom I don’t support gun control. And she said “name one good reason people should be able to buy AK-15s” Anti-Guners don’t know anything about guns.

>>555132

>“name one good reason people should be able to buy AK-15s”

Because, it is a shame that there is no such thing. Don't let your memes be dreams, just do it; civilian version of the AK-12 imported as the AK-15, now.

>>555164

The 7.62 ak12 is already the AK 15

Arguments such as "gun control doesn't work" seem like a waste of time to me, allows to much back and fourth. Its better to just present simple, realistic scenarios that can and do happen even when every gun in the world has been melted down(except for the authorities guns of course.)

>2 men break into your house, what are you gonna do about it?

Winning a knife fight against 1 person when you have 2 people is not that hard really. Knives, being close range as they are, all you have to do is pin the knife arm while your buddy stabs him.

Guns on the other hand. You have to exchange fire until someone either runs out or gives up. That means, even 1v2, that 1 guy has a whole magazine of opportunities to hit you.

>>554658

>Mass shootings kill under 500 a year.

>Be in same category as shark attacks, lightning strikes and falling vending machines.

>>555175

But is weak to any gas related attacks and prone to the hall of costs nightmare

>>554687

I hate how much of an egotistical asshole this person is. He is using this shit for fame and nothing else. And all these companies dumping the NRA does nothing outside of virtue signal and make them lose customers.

>>555346

>I hate how much of an egotistical asshole this person is. He is using this shit for fame and nothing else.

Does anyone else get a sociopath vibe from him? There's something that's setting my alarm bells off.

>>555430

The medical term for "sociopath" is "Antisocial Personality Disorder" or ASPD.

People with ASPD are aggressive, frequently violent, and are perpetually bored and restless making them impulsive. They'll usually have a history in crime. They have little to no remorse or empathy for all but the people they are closest to usually only themselves and can be very manipulative.

They do feel emotions, just not in the way people without ASPD feel emotions.

This is not a diagnosis or saying that you're right or wrong, just me basically plagiarizing the literature.

>>555430

He definitely reeks of some underlying pathology. That kid was already networking hard and early so he could land a job in the media after school. People who strive for media jobs like that are very, very unpleasant.

I bet he's some sort of narcissist

>>555346

>>555436

Someone who is high in narcissism can appear to be a sociopath, but they actually aren't. They can care for other people, they just choose not to.

>>555493

>no guns with a magazine, just single shot

>every home should have a shotgun and revolver

Wew lad.

These people are retarded.

Firearms are physics engines. There is only 1 way to control firearms, by watt units. Find out the watt rating of a firearm. Then match the watt units that civilians can own with the watt units that police and national guard can own.

For example a full auto M-16 is around 20kW weapon. A semi auto AR-15 is a 3kW weapon, assuming 2 trigger pulls per second.

>>555493

ebin.

Hey just what you see pall.

>>555590

Imagine going to a gun shop and having the firearms classed by watts. It would be fucking great.

>>555459

> the magical AR-15

isn't the dreaded AR-15 already banned under NFA?

>>555045

This implies that game dev academia knows anything about the history of firearms in America besides what anti-gun groups force feed them.

>>554744

They listing a fucking window at a school shot out by a pellet rifle as a "school shooting".

>>554746

>Only about 500 people a year die in mass shootings.

Not even that many, from 2000-2013 out 160 mass shooting only a total of 486 were killed.

https://www.fbi.gov/file-repository/active-shooter-study-2000-2013-1.pdf

>>554896

Leftists love nothing more during an argument than to make an appeal to authority.

>>555346

His little crusade isn't doing shit to the NRA, but driving them membership numbers through the roof and the Georgia Senate to his little bitch fit "victory" and snapped it like a fucking twig by fucking Delta's over a barrel when they axed a $40M tax break for avgas in session today.

>>555852

They don't even seem to realize that for something like muzzleloaders "bullets" can be whatever you want, anything from rock salt to rusty nails.

>>555859

>First off what the fuck does that even mean?

You should know what it means by now. It means whatever they want it to mean to justify taking away more guns. Words don't mean anything anymore, they're just shell games for whatever the politics of the minute are.

>>555870

>You should know what it means by now. It means whatever they want it to mean to justify taking away more guns.

I know, I just like being naive enough to believe that someone would actually be honest and answer the goddamn question.

>>554454

We all know it’s a assault weapon AR-47zi with low recoil and a machine gun that fires full auto bullets from a high capacity clip.

>>554622

(((Our greatest ally))) of course.

>>555854

A literal cannon is a muzzle loader too.

>>554716

We just have to remove all guns on the planet.

>>555914

>We just have to remove all guns on the planet.

Ayylmaos come immediately after.

>>555917

>implying aliens who are smart enough to have interstellar travel aren't smart enough to ban guns to stop alien school shootings

checkmate guntist

>>555459

Traitors get the rope first

People complaining that kids gets shoot in schools is now called retardation?

>>556007

people responding to a school shooting by calling for disarmament of the law-abiding populace is either retarded, or disingenuous. Which, depends on the speaker's socio-economic sphere.

>>555921

If aliens are so smart, why do they need alien schools to learn how to be aliens?