c3506a No.552045
Aight /k/, school me on the CZ-75 and the models currently in production.
Pros/cons/differences in current variants.
I've fulfilled most of my handgun purchases I actually want and only have a couple left I'd consider. Commonly a Glawk or Rex Zero, but then I saw a 75 and thought "man, that is some sex".
1c68c0 No.552054
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Have you considered CZ P09?
This ex Delta oper8or says it's his new go-to gun
c3506a No.552055
3c8ada No.552057
This isn't going to be completely scientific, because I fucking love the CZ series (Even the old 82/83 not quite mak's that blew the pants off any other combloc makarov).
The main thing is the full length slide rails, like on your higher tier Sig Sauer's. The way CZ does it is set the rails high on the slide, so the mass is lower and the bore axis is as well. This means less muzzle flip and (to me) a much more controllable grip as compared to a Sig pretty much anything else out there. The downside is that you have a smaller gripping surface on the slide serrations. I've never found that to be a problem, but I acknowledge that in amurrica with our severe obesity problem it might become an issue.
Unless you get an SA or a custom shop gun of some sort, the trigger's will be good but not excellent out of the box. If you're used to a DA/SA trigger like on a Sig or a S&W autoloader I think the CZ's beat them. They can definitely use some fine-tuning out of the box though.
Most of my experience is with the CZ-75 SP-01, a heavy steel beast of a 9mm. It's one of two guns I have that has never failed me. It's more accurate than I am most days, feels fucking great in the hand, the balance is perfect on it, especially with a light/laser mounted, and you can beat a motherfucker to death in between reloads and I doubt your POI would shift even the tiniest.
a86b78 No.552060
3a2544 No.552061
>>552054
I have one, and the only complaint is that it almost doesn't fit in my butthole and the pic rail is rough. Great for shooting as a secondary use if you're into that sort of thing.
c3506a No.552070
>>552057
I own a Sig SP2022 if that's a good reference point to use.
15f206 No.552073
>>552045
> CZ-75 and the models currently in production.
I'm not 100% sure but I think they're only currently making Shadows 2.
Which is a fucking nice gun, but it's pricey.
Tanfoglio makes near 100% CZ-75 full steel clones that are as good as the original for a decent price.
346824 No.552243
Help me Streloks I can't choose.
bcdd32 No.552244
c3506a No.552248
>>552243
they're all just so aesthticc….
bff541 No.552258
My LGS has a CZ 75 for $599, is tah ta decent price?
26c8a1 No.552259
>>552243
P-01. Especially the OD Green with NSN. Hnngggg.
The PCR is sex too, but no rail and different sight configuration can make it a bitch to find tritiums.
162864 No.552280
>parts are everywhere
>no patents
>no 80% CZ75
b732a8 No.552286
>>552045
meme gun
if you want the best DA/SA gun, buy a Sig p229.
61d6fb No.552298
>>552286
>Building tall bore axis
Yeah, no, SIG is overrated.
bf6403 No.552340
>>552286
>meme
Not really. It is a good gun with steel frame that sells for ~$600 and has an okay aftermarket with pretty good custom work options available. Factory mags won't kill your wallet but mecgar mags can sell for $18 if you keep an eye out. Trigger has some slack (I believe that's what you call it, about less than tenth of an inch once you hit the wall to trip the trigger) in SA mode but the DA is smooth (then again DA/SA pistols tend to have these and it can be fixed with custom work or splurging on their fancier models). Especially at about half the cost of the p229 you get a reliable tried and true pistol that makes a purchase definitely worth it.
>>552258
If you look around you might find some for about $50 less but it isn't that great of a deal nor is it a rip off by any means.
9ba2d2 No.552349
>>552286
Who the fuck are you shilling for Sig every goddamn pistol thread? Do you even own a CZ? I compared my SP01 Phantom to my P250 and not only is the Sig less accurate at distance, it's far more snappier and heavier than my CZ. The only think I like about it is the fact that the trigger pack is the only part considered a legal firearm on the gun, that's neat, beyond that it's a high bore axis firearm with a mushy, non-adjustable DA only trigger. Fuck dude.
f92bec No.552355
>>552349
>more snappier
>The only think I like
78a3c7 No.552360
>>552045
>Pros/cons/differences in current variants.
The more expensive the higher quality, but to be honest unless you are using it for IPSC or similar you don't need something like an Orange. The SP01 like in your pic is probably the apex of aesthetics vs practicality vs price for the 75 series unless you want something a little shorter like the P01. One thing to note is that the decocker models have *slightly* worse triggers.
They all have good magazine capacity, all have great triggers from the factory (for a production gun), some have better sights than others but the 75's have really good aftermarket support so finding a set of sights you like wont be hard, plenty of holster choices available.
Aside from the CZ75 have you considered the CZ97? aside from some minor differences its basically just a CZ75 scaled up to .45acp.
65cfcb No.552372
I shot a PO-9 and felt like though the controls were large and accessible were stiff as hell and the gun was in general far less accurate than my Hi Power. that may just be bias due to far more rounds through the HiPower
a6424f No.552377
>>552360
Are there 97s in 10mm?
b732a8 No.552389
>>552340
>"I mean it costs $600 dollars and it works so"
These days you can get Sig p229 and p226 for $550-700 dollars.
https://www.gunsmidwest.com/p226-r-enhanced-elite-40sw-15.html
Sig is straight up the best DA/SA pistol because they have the smoothest DA/SA trigger.
>>552298
>muh tall bore axis
it's really not a problem
>>552349
>p250
>budget-bin Sig
a6424f No.552390
>>552384
What the fuck is that
61d6fb No.552395
>>552389
>minimum 550
>Proceed to post a 100 bucks more expensive gun on sale
>Chambered in 40 short and weak
Top heh
>Tall bore axis is not a problem
Well, unless basic physics don't apply to you, it should be -at the very least- an inconvenience when compared to similar guns with lower bore axis.
>>552390
A very nice DA/SA with a rotating bull barrel. Goes for about 700 ameribucks. There is a cheaper version too.
ab13a7 No.552413
>>552377
A factory prototype exists and you can see it on YouTube but cz has stated they have no intention of producing it. Tanfoglio makes a similar product
04a1c3 No.552416
>>552340
>If you look around you might find some for about $50 less but it isn't that great of a deal nor is it a rip off by any means
$50 isn't a huge deal to me, just wanted to make sure it wasn't a straight up nugget tier ripoff.
They've recently been being harassed by gun grabbers too, so I don't mind tossing an extra few dollars their way.
I'm sure it'll get worse because of the recent muh chilluns incident.
a6424f No.552441
>>552413
>Tanfoglio makes a similar product
aac30c No.552472
I have a CZ-75 compact and it is the smoothest shooting gun I've ever shot. Trigger only gets better with use, and it's by and large my favorite handgun. My only complaint is that it is heavy, and having to CC it every day becomes a bit tiring. The P-10 C is also very nice. CZ makes good stuff, for the most part.
bcdd32 No.552475
So what's the deal with the Omega trigger system? I understand it's supposed to have fewer parts and be a lot easier to work with from an armorer standpoint, but does it sacrifice trigger quality at all to attain this?
d682f4 No.552485
>>552441
Superior aesthetics imo
8d8a1e No.552640
Why are SIG owners such massive faggots?
c3506a No.552644
>>552640
Because the only not overpriced one is the SP2022 and they know it.
9ba2d2 No.552660
>>552389
>budget SIG
>my untested and perfectly infallible type of Sig handgun doesn't suffer any problems ever
Elitism towards your own brand? This is a new strain of autism.
61d6fb No.552686
>>552485
I know you, you always have good taste for shit. The Italians do know how to make shit look classy. Same with Pardini stuff.
Apparently it is pretty either and price tag is similar to a comparable CZ (or even cheaper in some countries).
My only criticism would be the limited area of contact between recoil spring and frame, looks like something waiting to be get worn down for no good reason whatsoever. Not even sure if it is a real world issue, but it doesn't look good to my autism.
>>552640
'Merican SF picked their gun as side-arm some years ago and now they think it is the ultimate pistol.
Not to mention they also believe it is an actual premium/boutique gun (when in reality it is an ok pistol with a considerably inflated price tag).
bfc922 No.552697
>>552640
Because they're buying a brand name not even realizing military guns comes from Europe (Germany, which themselves already aren't as good as proper Swiss made ones) while SIG-USA is forking them out to a much lesser standard…
61d6fb No.552700
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>>552697
Some are worse than others though. The one shitting up this board reminds me of faggot related.
a6424f No.552710
>>552485
>fluorescent lighting
aa400b No.552750
>>552710
Do you think people who have to pay for jamals stuff can afford modern LEDs?
8d8a1e No.552769
>>552644
And at that price, you can just buy a Glawk brand Glawk and call it a day.
>>552686
The irony behind this is that a Beretta that hasn't been trashed around by Lcpl. Schmukatelli is actually a premium pistol. Didn't a lot of SOCOM switch over to Glocks recently?
>>552697
I have never been impressed by SIGs. It always seemed that for the price, there were so many better options out there that felt worthy of the tag. Also, they never seemed to match up to some pistols that are cheaper. I once heard a guy say in a condescending tone "I hate Glock, I'M a SIG man.", which caused some hearty keks all around.
Anyway, OP buy the CZ-75. CZ makes some quality pistols. I have a CZ-82 from 1987 that still functions flawlessly.
a6424f No.552772
>>552750
You have no idea how much that gun costs
b732a8 No.552776
>>552660
>moves the goalposts
Many brands have their budget shit
>my Sig is perfect
Anything will jam if you get it dirty enough. The Sig is just a straight up nicer gun for the same price.
aa400b No.552786
>>552772
900 USD, not that expensive. The 1892 I got for christmas was probably more.
d682f4 No.552871
>>552686
Thanks expat anon. At the time, the CZ shadow didn't have adjustable sights, and the Tanfoglio Stock 3 came with LPA sights. So they came at about the same price point. I've since sold it, because I wanted a workhorse instead of a show piece.
>>552750
leaf me alone lad :^)
3fa327 No.552914
>>552082
I don't know about that, I still haven't shot a CZ that I disliked or thought could be dramatically improved upon.
086847 No.552916
>>552700
god YHM is obnoxious. and gay.
da971a No.552919
I got a CZ RAMI for my CCW. Just need to actually get my CCW license and a holster.
Pretty good little gun that shoots well. Essentially a sub-compact CZ 75.
c7e573 No.552948
>>552916
I've a hard time understanding how his fan base cope up with all the cross dressing… Or how on earth he has a fan base to begin with.
b10441 No.552961
>>552769
>The irony behind this is that a Beretta that hasn't been trashed around by Lcpl. Schmukatelli is actually a premium pistol.
aren't there 80s surplus berettas from the italian carabineri being surplussed now? Those look nice, I just cant stand the beretta decocker/safety
8d8a1e No.552989
>>552961
I think someone on gunbroker is dumping Israeli surplus Beretta 84s for $260-300. I just recently bought a Beretta 84F, and the decocker doesn't bother me. It's kind of novel given the rest of my pistol collection.
b29dc0 No.553226
Is the Jericho just a Cowboy Bebop meme gun?
bfc922 No.553228
>>553226
>Jericho
>Cowboy Bebop
I think you mean Black Lagoon?
b29dc0 No.553231
>>553228
No, I mean Cowboy Bebop.
I don't know what exactly the kikes changed about the CZ aside from visual appearance, obviously.
Haven't heard any negatives so far but I'd like to know if one of you guys owns one.
a10fe1 No.553235
>>552057
I have long hands that make it hard to force the slide back with my palm facing to the right. I'm right handed. If I ever want my trigger pull to change all I have to do is change the grip angle of my index finger and i'll get a straighter pull with much more strength required to do so. Recommend a CZ compact to me.
61d6fb No.553237
>>553231
Not sure If this changed down the line, but initially the jews weren't even making them, it it was all Tanfoglio.
As far as I know, they are just CZ with a different look. Kikes care a lot about how the gun looks, the Tavor was designed from the outside to the inside, the whole thing is a marketing piece.
b29dc0 No.553243
>>553237
As long as it's just as reliable, I don't really care.
5af89f No.553250
>>553231
>>553237
the all steel fullsize ones have a heavier slide and the barrel linkage is beefed up so you can shoot +p+ for longer without going out of spec.
Only the very very first jerichos from back before they were doing the 9mm/.41ae models had subcontracted tanfoglio parts and iirc there were no italian parts in the jericho by the time the commercial guns were being produced.
The major difference besides the looks, ergos, and, +p+ capability is that they have polygonal rifling as opposed to conventional rifling. So you get more muzzle velocity and barrel life among other things.
b29dc0 No.553275
>>553250
Cool, thanks. I'm probably going to get one because my LGS only seems to carry Jerichos as opposed to CZ models that aren't single action only or really small. Long fingers means bad trigger pull on smaller handguns, like >>553235
It costs a bit more but I think it'll be worth it.
Is there any reason to get it chambered in .45?
200c69 No.553319
Does anyone know of a source for a threaded barrel for a CZ-97? I want to suppress one of my .45's and I just don't want to do it with my basic bitch 1911 like everyone else on earth.
aa400b No.553330
>>553319
You're gonna have to have that custom made.
8be43a No.553337
>>553330
On that note does anyone specifically do custom CZ barrels? I've been flirting with the idea for awhile of getting a .40 cal SP-01 to go with my 9mm and swapping a .357 Sig barrel in.
9d68af No.553348
>>553337
If you're willing to invest that much effort into making a special snowflake gun best to go all the way and rebarrel a 9mm pistol to take 6.5mm CBJ rounds.
8be43a No.553364
>>553348
>popping a .357 sig barrel into a .40 gun
>lol this is just as strange as an obscure euro PDW round
9d68af No.553371
>>553364
It's not "just as" obscure, of course 6.5 CBJ is further out there. But if you're going to do custom work with necked-down cartridges, why not go as far out on the spectrum as you can? Don't you want a necked-down round that's also a sabot round, with better penetration than full-size rifle cartridges?
ecf975 No.553372
>>553371
It uses tungsten though, so of course it has an absurdly good penetration. A steel dart wouldn't be nearly as good. Look up .223 Timbs though, it's a saboted 5.56 in a 7.62 Tokarev case.
0cc68e No.553374
>>553371
That looks like it would suck ass against soft targets.
26f1f3 No.553466
>>553371
>swapping a barrel for a slightly less common factory cartridge with no other parts changes
>might as well chamber it in some retarded special squirrel oper8tor cartridge because I'm a huge faggot that thinks velocity and penetration on armor is all that matters
Yeah, no.
ed357b No.560313
>>552914
one complaint I have is that the ejection port is so small, I don't mind it that much though, I love how the CZ looks
a60dc9 No.560343
Are their any parts kits for the CZ like the glock 80%s I want one but im not 21 yet.
fa6540 No.560996
>>560343
If you're in a non cucked state then just do a private purchase from some guy.
bcdd32 No.561000
>>560343
You're unlikely to find an 80% frame for anything besides Glocks and the 1911. Like the other guy said just do a private sale. Or if you're browsing gunbroker have a friend or relative make the sale for you, then do a private sale with them.
>inb4 straw purchase
No, it's not a straw purchase. A straw purchase is a purchase for someone unable to purchase a firearm themselves. You're not legally barred from making a private sale so it's not a straw purchase. If the ATF bursting in and shooting your dog is that frightening to you just wait a couple weeks before making the official transfer of ownership.
a60dc9 No.561026
>>560996
i live in California
438518 No.561064
Are the Sphinx 3000 pistols worth the effort of tracking one done,and worth the price?
fa6540 No.561227
>>561026
Get out of there stalker
e5e274 No.561241
>check local prices for the CZ75 SP01
>It's 900 euros
>1,113 dollars
Taxes are the most Jewish thing ever invented
ba18af No.561243
e5e274 No.561245
>>561243
They're even more expensive with the exception of some shitty "Force" handguns, one of them being .22
Perhaps I used a shitty site, but I didn't find any other store selling tanfolios here.
b080b1 No.561948
>>552045
I have an sp-01. It's my dedicated ccw/shtf sidearm. Haven't been counting but I have somewhere between 1000-1500 rounds through it so far. So, for what it's worth, heres muh two pennies.
Pros:
>pretty cheap
>feels like sex in my hand
>19+1
>very tight groupings, pretty damned accurate
>big assed pistol but can definitely carry innawaist I do every day, so comfy I forget its there sometimes the tail end of the mag will print but its barely noticeable. Ive never had anyone notice it
>stock trijicon sights are pretty sweet Ive seen them get shit on in forums as not lasting long but I keep it under my shirt all day long and it stays there til it gets put on my nightstand for bed and the sights are still shining bright if something goes bump in the night.
>after a couple hundred rounds you unlock the slight of hand perk seriously there is some design flaw in it that after a couple hundred rounds the slide release breaks, just a bit. And the way that it breaks is when you empty a mag and the slide locks back when you slap in a new magazine the slide will automatically release and chamber a round.
>all around sexy gun
Cons:
>fit leaves something to be desired. You need to take some sandpaper to the contact points and polish it up if you want it to function flawlessly. its really not a con but as is out of the box the fit is a little off on the slide and various contact points so if you dont polish it eventually you will start having double feeds (which you can fix by polishing it up)
>cleaning it is a pain in the ass. Field stripping it is very easy, but if you want to clean the firing pin or the action. wew lad make sure you have all the correct tools they left literally no room for 'ah this punch will work fine'.. no you need the correct one or you are going to break shit
>It is a little picky with food. If you feed it anything less powerful than nato spec the slide will cycle slow, because it and the spring are heavy, and you will get full retard levels of muzzle flip, and the muzzle will flip with the round still in the barrel so you will be way the fuck inaccurate. Nato spec only. As far as what bullet weight, I havent figured out what is best, 124 and up result in less muzzle rise than 115 but I've been slightly more accurate with 115.
>DA is a pretty heavy pull, not terrible, its about on par with the m9a3, SA is much less heavy, but its kind of hard to feel where the reset is.
TLDR; its a dank as fuck duty sidearm, I bet my life on it. It needs a slight bit of work out of the box. It's not designed to be a competition pistol its designed for combat, and for that role its damned fine.
b080b1 No.561949
>>561241
>1113 dollar
fucking hell I paid $490 for mine, new.
b080b1 No.561953
>>553275
i ordered mine for deguns if that helps.
1f5503 No.562017
>>561948
>seriously there is some design flaw in it that after a couple hundred rounds the slide release breaks, just a bit. And the way that it breaks is when you empty a mag and the slide locks back when you slap in a new magazine the slide will automatically release and chamber a round.
I think that's something in all CZs anon, my 75 did the same thing but only with Mec-Gar mags.
1b2adc No.562046
>>552243
I have the P01, love it.
e95041 No.563413
>>563326
>Pachmayr Renegade
1ab70b No.563434
>>562017
>>561948
Can confirm my 85 Combat does the same thing with Mec-Gar mags; honestly thought it was just a feature.
9139b8 No.563487
>>563434
>honestly thought it was just a feature
I don't know if it was an intentional choice or not (I'm guessing not), but I've always seen it as a plus.
387d92 No.563513
>>561948
My favorite full size 9mm pistol. I have no idea how you conceal carry it though. The thing weighs about 10 pounds with a full mag.
e95041 No.563524
>>563513
>I have no idea how you conceal carry it though
A belt made for a man.
>The thing weighs about 10 pounds with a full mag.
Sounds like you need to get some weights and do some training.
a10fe1 No.564830
I just looked around for a good CZ clone and bought this baby a few minutes ago for $376. Best part besides the ridiculously cheap price in comparison to most CZs on the market is the interchangeable parts. Slide assembly, mags, sights, and grips depending on the model of course. Everything aesthetic about CZ is in these pistols. I've also looked at video reviews on youtube of them being fired and I can say from personal experience the recoil management looks pretty much like how it would be when I fire my full size 75bd. Fuck me for not discovering these things sooner. Why the fuck aren't CZ fags all over these? Any major issues that everyone is overlooking, or is it just brand fagging as usual?
5ecbdb No.564890
>>563326
I want a T-120 but I heard they are kinda sloppy compared to a proper CZ. Plus I wish it was a decocker.
5ecbdb No.564893
>>564830
Is there any noticeable worse finish or slop compared to a regular CZ?
dc6ea6 No.564907
>>564893
Nothing that justifies $200 more.
0cc68e No.564913
>>564830
Mainly because it's Turk shit and "it's just like X" isn't enough to sway people from a brand they enjoy.
dc6ea6 No.565222
>>564913
I'll post performance updates when it arrives.
3370c8 No.565392
>>552045
>I've fulfilled most of my handgun purchases I actually want
…….impossible…like i have fukd most of the pussy i want to fuk lol
3370c8 No.565395
>>552286
b4 quality went……try hk DE made and you won't feel that way but consider lem with safety is like sig dak
3370c8 No.565398
>>552045
>"man, that is some sex
but u right my friend i thinking pick up a few myself metal i like for recoil for recoil sensitive people
>>552045
7ef960 No.568177
for the fellow syrupsuckers, that faggot
John at marstar has some Czech police trade in 85s, holster wear is about the issue which isn't really an issue, shoots and functions flawlessly.
429e9b No.568228
>>552700
>its not like a sig
>its just like a sig!
>get a sig
Why does the rex 01 cause such butthurt for signigs? Did the walther fanbois get asshurt over the canik TP9?
a10fe1 No.569598
>>564830
Pros
>factory sights are decent out of box
>hefty all metal construction mean durability and recoil management is not an issue
>roBUST grip for manly handling
>large hammer makes cocking or decocking with just your thumb easy
>smooth half-cock trigger pull to a crispy single action pull
>rail for mounting flash light/laser
>can function with CZ mags without a problem
>Fits in p01 holsters
>$100-$200 cheaper than a CZ P01, give or take $20
Cons
>stiff double action pull makes it hard to keep the sights from jerking a bit
>safety on means you can't rack the slide
All in all, I'm happy with what I got. I took pictures, but I wont post any until i've put some new sights, grips, get a light/laser and an in the waste band holster so I can make a before and after comparison.
d7014a No.569634
>>552082
Kenichi Sonoda is a noguns nip who has no idea what the fuck he is talking about. It's always been rule of cool with Gunsmith Cats, and it's damn stupid to get gun advice from a mangaka.
69dec3 No.571680
Just picked up a CZ75B Omega today.
150 rounds through it at the range with the cheapest aluminum cased ammo I could buy, not a single failure of any kind. I love this thing.
6e8139 No.571683
>>571680
They're practical duty pistols that are designed to preform. Show her lots of love Strelok, and she will love you in return.
3dddbc No.571684
>Turkshit
Go real CZ and get quality, if you have a tight budget even a used old model isn't too shabby.
a55e0a No.571766
b05bd8 No.571785
bcdd32 No.571806
>>571785
I'm sorry anon. Upstate I hope, if not you should get out of dodge before an urban youth enriches you.
b05bd8 No.571811
>>571806
I live in the suburbs of WNY so I'm not worried. I have my CCW for NY too it's not as unicorn shit as you might think so I can carry it if I want. I'm saving up for something smaller too.
bf6403 No.571830
>>571764
>>571766
>mag bans work
LOL
O
L
buy mecgar mags and a masonry drill bit
d643a1 No.571858
SAR B6P.
Cheap CZ 75b clone.
Can't swap the sights on it, but otherwise it's been an amazing piece of hardware.
b49139 No.571862
>>571830
I think I know you from operatorchan?
b49139 No.571863
>>571862
Also who knows what this pic is from? I've been trying to find out lately.
bf6403 No.571864
56f103 No.577974
The question is not that relevant to the thread, but the one about rails on pistols is gone, and I want to bump this anyway. Is there some kind of a standard for mounting optics on pistols, or is it still a "developing market"?
4f8dfc No.578023
>>577974
Still developing. It looks like the Trijicon cut is winning out but like the Keymod vs Mlok debate the other cuts are still going fairly strong Since it depends on what sight you want to use, there are adapter plates though. Currently there are 5 cuts (at least the big names) for pistol slides. First is the Trijicon RMR like I said, Burris Fast Fire, Leupold Delta Point, and I think Vortex has 2 options.
The Leopold is fat as fuck so most of the time manufacturers just lop off the dove tail leaving you with no iron sights. The choices for vortex seems to be just where you want the rear sight, either in front of the red dot or behind. Of course you could just replace the rear sight with a mount that uses the dovetail so you wont need to pay a guy to mill out your slide but that's like using a too high scope mount (though it didn't stop the old competition guys).
448163 No.578026
>>571680
How's the Omega trigger stack up?
362708 No.578035
>>553231
They didn't change a thing from the CZ75/ tanfoglios they copied, but there is a polymer version of the Jericho 941 that looks pretty nice imo.
ad1bc6 No.579382
what a funny coincidence, this is my first handgun.
cost me only 300€
8fb58b No.579817
Are cz-75s +p rated?
I feel like regular 9mm is not powerful enough
5af53d No.580025
What barrels would be compatible with a Jericho 941? I want to chamber one in 357 sig. I like the idea of flatter shooting gun, but I don't want excessive recoil and I don't want to take risks with P++ 9mm ammo.
Is it true that you could switch between 9mm and 40 S&W?
90e93a No.580026
>>579817
http://www.czforumsite.info/index.php?topic=14691.0
TL;DR: yes, but +p+ is risky.
c0a61a No.580301
c0a61a No.580302
>>564890
>>571684
>>564893
I've had a Turk S-120 for about two years now and so far have had zero issues with it. No malfunctions, and it does not look or feel cheap at all. I actually used it for my concealed carry qualification and got one of the best scores in the group.