da8aca No.549452
Apparently Maduro is considering invading Guyana, which is a commonwealth nation with 50% dot nigger, 40% nigger and 10% feather nigger.
Interestingly enough, Guyana's main export is gold and as most are aware, Venezuela's currency may as well not exist. Access to gold could enable Maduro's regime to at least provided for itself while the agricultural production could help relieve food shortages in Venezuela. Venezula also has a casus beli of sorts which the UN is currently arbitrating.
That said Venezuela is unlikely to receive any military support, but Cuba and Best Korea may assist with logistics/military supply. Guyana on the other hand has possible military support from the UK and Brazil. As a quick comparison Guyana has a population of ~700k, Venezula ~31 million.
Venezuela:
>130k+ men in the army
>6 Divisions, 3 infantry, 1 armored, 1 jungle, 1 cav
>~700 artillery pieces
>~150 MBT (T-72B1V and AMX-30, half and half.)
>~70 light tanks and 300+ APCs and other light vehicles
>~10 Mi-35 Helicopters
>on paper functional marine corp 7 brigades, landing vehicles, anti-air, SF and support brigades.
Guyana:
>~5000 men in the defense forces
>2 Infantry Battalions
>1 SF Battalion
>~100 assorted artillery pieces
>~10 F-350s
>no anti-armor or anti-air that I can find
Venezuela is in bad shape, but massively outnumbers anything the Guyana Defense Force can offer, and even so, they are mostly niggers, pic related. Venezuela also has a navy which Guyana may as well not have.
If Brazil or UK gets involved it may be a very different situation. Discuss!
a82a35 No.549455
No one likes Maduro in the world anyway. Invading some small country while your own is starving would just give the US a reason to invade and overthrow him for the oil. Doubt the entire world will be rushing to their defense but Venezuela is in no condition to fight and it would just be political suicide. If they managed to take Guyana and hit their gold reserves, what next? Very few trade with them anyway, and if they managed to sell it or pump up the price of their currency, it's not like they themselves can produce enough to feed everyone and fill the massive shortages and importing from elsewhere would be unpractical and very short-term. Their capital saw massive rioting too not too long ago, and crime is rampant so government wealth might just encourage people to steal from them.
da8aca No.549461
>>549455 (checked)
>No one likes Maduro in the world anyway
True, but Guyana is a blip on the map too. Not to shill for Maduro's position, but invasion would certainly give short term solutions in a game that is no longer long term.
Rather I think the leash is getting pretty short. National supplies are shot, even the oil trade is dwindling due to typical commie 'efficiency' and the regime is short on options. They need an influx of resources and given the fact they are retarded commie beaners, they may go for it. There are less than 5 thousand men defending, niggers and street shitters at that. And the gold they produce is, as you point out still rather insignificant internationally, giving Maduro a boost, but not enough to drag in (in his estimation) the US or UK.
TL;DR
>maduro probably has a bunch of half starved infantryman looking for a fight, which will eventually include rebellion
>nation out of everything, even oil, will eventually face insurrection in the face of regime apathy
>reasonable seperation between Guyana and Brazil, the next potentially hostile nation.
7b7d56 No.549464
>>549461
Last I read, nearly all the food rationing in Venezuela is not only controlled by the military but also primarily goes to them and some of the commie party members.
Apparently Maduro's military leadership is running a food black market off the books and funneling the profits into out of country bank accounts.
Most likely if Maduro was to invade Guyana, his generals and others would just cash out and flee the country with the millions they embezzled though all the bribes from the few food imports and black market stalls.
Guyana may actually have a tiny chance of not getting completely fucked up.
de0150 No.549466
>>549452
I think a better question is would Guyana pay foreigners in gold?
e54f82 No.549468
>>549464
>Last I read, nearly all the food rationing in Venezuela is not only controlled by the military but also primarily goes to them and some of the commie party members. Apparently Maduro's military leadership is running a food black market off the books and funneling the profits into out of country bank accounts.
Not surprising in the least but would that really cripple and invasion or encourage more business? Again its a country 1/30th the size of Venezuela, like America annexing Bermuda or some shit.
>>549466 (checked)
Maybe, doubt they would be able to pull things together quick enough. Far more likely Brazil or UK intervenes instead.
d87441 No.549472
Guyana spends 1 percent of its GDP on its defense forces. For reference Guyana's GDP adjusted for purchasing power parity is 6.164 billion USD. Ergo their military budget is 61,640,000 USD.
with 62 million dollars for a nation's total military forces, I'm shocked they have boots.
f30b84 No.549495
We'd probably intervene somehow. Can't let the spics have out rum now, can we?
d978ca No.549500
>>549455
This. You can't eat gold.
5dc557 No.549511
>>549452
>>549452
Sounds like it would be a military defeat for Guyana unless they went full blown Switzerland. The population might not be interested in a drawn out conflict and will just roll over. Accepting a regime change is probably easier then fighting for a government you don't know, care for or agree with. But I honestly have no idea, but Europeans entering into another South American war beyond limited engagements would be interesting. Can the UK and Burrrrrrrrrr's honestly react fast enough with BotG's?
4ae2fa No.549517
IIRC we got buthurt at the yanks invading Grenada without our permission, so I doubt we would let Commies invade our clay.
471efa No.549520
>>549452
>First Guyana
>Then Surinam
>And nothing of value was lost
b5c734 No.549524
>>549452
>>549461
>feather nigger
It's boat nigger
>Guyana is a blip
It's not really, Guyana doesn't have to do much since they're a quite neutral country in the region, it's also the "head state of CARICOM" so they'll have to deal with the rest of the caribbean, Columbia, Brazil and the UK atleast.
It would be the largest mistake Venezuela would ever make.
dfa3c7 No.549561
how likely are we to get involved? i dont know much about army tactics and troop movement , but the border between guyana and venezuela is pretty smol , so couldnt we just establish a DMZ of sorts in the area with guyanas permission if maduro gets cocky?
4be7b5 No.549563
9bff77 No.549564
>>549466
Checked. That is the only question I care about.
96009b No.549575
>>549452
>dot nigger
You mean street shitters or what?
bbe89d No.549584
>>549524
Excuse my ignorance but… wtf is a boat nigger?
4be7b5 No.549594
>>549584
similar to feather nigger, just way more sea oriented since they island hopped alot.
c43f87 No.549628
>>549452
This is literally Saddam invading Kuwait.
c82ad1 No.549630
Announcing that he's going to do it just killed 30-50% more of his troops than needed to die.
Maduro is fucking incompetent, how did he become leader of a country? Wasn't he a general before?
818668 No.549631
>>549630
>Wasn't he a general before?
No, just a socialist politician
c82ad1 No.549632
>>549500
>greek logic
You can buy gold with it. Or better yet base a new currency on it, so your entire economy can start generating revenue again.
0144db No.549636
>>549628
Saddam had an oil rich country that was stable enough to create the third largest military might in the world; then invaded an oil rich country for more oil and water access.
Venizala is an oil rich country threatening to invade a moderately gold rich country because they did something they don't like and shit and wars make good economics.
0144db No.549637
>>549631
Even if he was a general, he's a party boy first and a military leader second.
303163 No.549638
>>549575
Yes. Apparently while it was under British hands, so many servants were imported from India that Pajeets are now the dominant ethnicity, despite being a South American country.
>The largest ethnic group is the Indo-Guyanese (also known as East Indians), the descendants of indentured servants from India, who make up 43.5% of the population, according to the 2002 census. They are followed by the Afro-Guyanese, the descendants of slaves from Africa, who constitute 30.2%. Guyanese of mixed heritage make up 16.7%, while the indigenous peoples (known locally as Amerindians) make up 9.1%
8c893c No.549639
>>549637
>a party boy first
c82ad1 No.549649
>>549638
So we need to kill 91% of the people there?
d978ca No.549653
>>549638
How can a country created by Whites be so demographically fucked?
d978ca No.549654
>>549653
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guyana#History
> It gained independence in 1966, and officially became a republic within the Commonwealth of Nations in 1970.
Suppose that explains a lot…
523ee1 No.549656
>>549632
But I already covered this: What good is a currency if your state run production doesn't work at all?
a69a84 No.549729
from the perspective of vuvuzula govnt invading a propagandad up foreign enemy is the best thing they could do now.
666b79 No.549732
>>549656
Not a whole lot in Venezula's case as everybody already doesn't want to trade with them and invading a country sure as shit isn't going to help that problem.
66f2fa No.549735
>>549452
Would the French allow it? I feel like this would put them closer to French Guiana, and the Brazilians are certain to not want more of those socialist faggots on their borders anyways.
66f2fa No.549736
Additionally, how would Venezuela justify the act of war? One wrong step and the international community would sweep in to steal their natural resources under the guise of toppling a dictator well, Maduro is one but that's not the point.
ba8a4b No.549737
How likely is it that the US gets involved if Maduro invades? I've been waiting for my whole life to join a war that's even somewhat worth fighting.
3a6eee No.549739
>>549737
Too late to join up if it goes down sometime this year. It'd be so sweet invading Venezuela with all them starved chicas wanting some MREs
666b79 No.549740
>>549737
If the US gets involved they won't put boots on the ground. They'll just bomb the shit out of Venezuela so the only people who get to kill any commies will be pilots and probably whoever works the guns on ships and that's just not satisfying at all.
66f2fa No.549741
>>549472
That's approximately $12,000 per soldier. Keep in mind that the average monthly salary in Guyana is something like $300 USD after adjusting for purchasing power parity. You could effectively pay each soldier average wages (they probably get far less than that) and still make out with a $44 million budget for equipment. I'm not saying that's a lot, but if you're using cheap soviet-era shit and only outfitting them with camo (that's likely produced dirt cheap in Brazil/Argentina/Chile), you can get a decent military together. We're talking South American prices, not Western World prices.
66f2fa No.549742
>>549740
US has a bomb shortage from bombing ISIS too much though?
666b79 No.549743
>>549742
That sounds like a load of nonsense last I heard the military had bombs that were fucking expiring because we spend so much on the fucking things.
66f2fa No.549746
>>549743
They're not hurting on large bombs which are likely to expire from sitting in storage, they're hurting on shit like small-diameter bombs used in airstrikes and such.
>>549737
Pretty unlikely honestly. I have a feeling that the French, Brazilians, and Caribbean would fuck them up long before the US could even land troops. At most you might have some navy embargoes and airforce presence, but definitely not boots on the ground. The real question is if we allow Venezuela to keep existing after Maduro is assassinated, or let the French and Brazilians fight over clay.
907d20 No.549748
>>549653
Because we always imported labour/servants from other already established colonies into newly established colonies instead of trying to teach the local population English and hoping that they'd stay loyal. It's why Jamacia had a lot of taigs andd why Singapore has a lot of Cantonese chinks. It's just generally easier
9fe5d6 No.549751
>>549737
Depends on how badly the petrodollar needs propped up at that moment. If Saudi goes hot beforehand I can definitely see the reserve team being sent to VZ and promptly embarrassed by mostly retarded mestizos..
590d80 No.549759
>>549452
> 50% dot nigger, 40% nigger and 10% feather nigger.
I bet there are some beautiful exotic mixed girls down there. I should get a plane ticket.
def826 No.549813
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>549452
Colombia and Brazil clamp down on borders as Venezuela crisis spurs exodus
>Venezula is so shit Venezuelans rapefugees are sneaking into other shitholes
>Western ((Mainstream media) are demanding Brazilians and Colombians take in Venezuelan Rapefugees
When the fuck did liberals demand brown countries to take in Brown Rapefugees?
http://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2018/02/colombia-brazil-tighten-venezuela-border-control-180209081826179.html
https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2018/feb/08/venezuela-migrants-colombia-brazil-borders
907d20 No.549846
>>549759
>beautiful exotic mixed
They all look like this
bcf896 No.549855
>>549846
Eh, not really, those are the extreme uggos actually.
907d20 No.549884
>>549855
Fugg, because they're all the ones we get
bcf896 No.549888
>>549884
I guess we get the better looking ones since a boat is pretty cheap and we barely have taxes here.
aff32f No.549891
bcf896 No.549894
>>549891
not everyone is into mutts, I get that, but it's really for the american anon wanting to wear a Pith helm.
d2ac72 No.549895
>>549524
>you might see the day that Colombians kill Venezuelans
96009b No.549911
6df4b9 No.549940
>>549631
>>549637
he was head of the bus driver's union before being prez lol.
>>549741
ok fair enough.
>>549846
tbh better than I expected
>>549888
that's an improvement
81a0ac No.549946
aff32f No.549948
>>549946
indian from india. they have dots on foreheads
da5841 No.549952
How likely is Venezuela to fuck itself over by invading Guyana? What they want in return is essentially the entire western half of Guyana and invading would disrupt drilling in the region.
bcf896 No.549956
>>549952
Did you not read anything said in the thread?
21581e No.549959
Why not just let them slap fight each other?
Hues can enter in towards the end for maximum chaos, but everyone should just leave them to it. It's not as though anyone wins or loses in this scenario. Would sure as hell give us something to talk about anyway.
As for the UK, they can't even recapture their capital, I really can't see them pulling off any kind of large scale mobilization without risking the dumpster fire at home raging out of control at this point.
bd4b0f No.549970
>>549959
>lost to rice farmers because of hippies
>therefore everyone would lose to rice farmers because of hippies
USA! USA! USA! USA!
17b70b No.549975
>>549970
It's more like retards vs. rice farmers.
21581e No.549993
>>549970
I warned you about those rice niggers, bro! I told you about the rice niggers!
But seriously, playing world police has only made an already bad situation at home, even worse. What would you even gain from fighting the commies in shitholia? That would just leave your government with a reason to invite more rapefugees. Learn from our example britbongs, if you think things are bad now wait until you hit 56%.
66f2fa No.550006
>>549952
What if Venezuela is weighing the risks, assuming they won't get bulldozed, and using Guyana as an excuse to get their generals as far away from the capital/in a weakened position as possible without disposing of them? It seems like a military coup is expected since the military are the only ones getting fed decently, and even that's running short.
b1654e No.550019
>>549520
I've now realized I'm a stereotypical idiotic American because I had no idea Suriname even existed.
b32e90 No.550025
/k/ PMC? Get some gold, guns, and syphilis?
9a61f5 No.550035
We Mercenaries 2 now.
>>549741
Yeah, it's not like Venezuela would be fielding terminators (they still use 7.62x39). Give the guys a basic uniform+chest rig+pack, an AK/AR, mags full of ammo and maybe some grenades you'd easily get everything (as an individual in the US purchasing one unit) except the grenades for under 2000 USD. Combine bulk orders and South American cheap labor and it would easily go under 1000 or less. That's plenty to spend on training/transports/food/logistics/artillery everything else even before how the rest of the world is going to give them all sorts of goodies for free mid-war. As a defensive war against someone almost everyone in the world cares nothing for, the Guyana army would be motivated enough if they didn't totally fuck up logistics to the point everyone is starving, out of ammo and simultaneously frozen and heatstroked.
907d20 No.550058
>>549959
>As for the UK, they can't even recapture their capital
Meanwhile your capital is, like, 30% white and the past eight or so mayors have all been niggers.
But muh one muzzie mayor, right???
d152f1 No.550078
>>550058
The US capital isn't also the largest city, Brit.
907d20 No.550087
>>550078
Yeah, but your largest cities are even worse than your capital.
>Jew York
>33% white
>LA
>28% white
>Chicago
>31% white
>Houston
>25% white
You're not making it easier on yourself by trying to deflect to the "muh honorary capital" meme
8ba364 No.550089
>>550087
All large cities are garbage. Countryside is where it's at. Wall them off and let 'em starve.
907d20 No.550090
>>550089
Unironically this, but instead of letting them all starve, we should wall off cities like you said, which would eventually reduce the population numbers to something very minimal, only the strongest townies and cityfags that could survive and have managed to figure out a method of feeding themselves. We could then use the walled of cities for /k/-tier gladatorial deathmatches. City vs city or cityfags vs a team of kitted out /k/fags, it would be just like predator, but with more shitposting.
a25341 No.550125
>>550087
What's the breakdown of the other races? Asians assimilate really good, and spics can be white.
21581e No.550130
>>550058
Are you trying to argue there is an acceptable level of rape gangs, or maybe a preferable level of them? Is the US really the example you want to follow with this sort of thing? Asking for a friend.
>>550090
Turning cities into giant sacrificial pits is not a bad idea, though.
907d20 No.550134
>>550125
>asians assimilate really good, and spics can be white
>asians assimilate really good
>spics can be white
dog bless :DDD
>>550130
Nah, just pointing out hypocrisy tbh
21581e No.550136
>>550134
Wasn't hypocrisy, it was a warning not to fuck about in the turd world when your own house isn't in order. Otherwise you end up in a jew run nigger infested banana republic such as this one. Filled with people like him >>550125.
aee654 No.550140
>>550125
>Asians assimilate really good
bcf896 No.550143
>>550125
>Asians assimilate really good,
>Spics can be white.
a25341 No.550148
>>550140
All the ones I saw in school had white first names and busted ass to get good grades. Definitely preferable to some nig smoking pot in the bathroom.
>>5501
As for spics, "can be white" does not mean "is white". This is a painting of Manuel Lorenzo Justiniano de Zavala y Sáenz, better known as Lorenzo de Zavala. He's not the average person you'd see walking down the street in Mexico City, and I never said he was.
bcf896 No.550151
>>550148
>b-b-but they assimilate well I saw it myself
Exceptions to the rule aren't the rule.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinatowns_in_the_United_States
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japantown
There's also little Vietnams little Cambodias etc.
You're asking for a bit much from the majority of people who still want to keep their culture.
Sure they're good workers, they'll talk to others and be agreeable, but they usually keep their cultures wholesale.
a25341 No.550173
>>550151
Italians did the same thing. When large groups of people from one country emigrate to the same parts of another one, they'll group up and not assimilate no matter what race they are.
aee654 No.550176
>>550148
>All the ones I saw in school had white first names and busted ass to get good grades
True assimilation
21581e No.550177
>>550173
<shitskins overrun the country
>b-but the italians did it too!
Culture means didly dick, it's blood that's important. We can crack commie skulls until they improve themselves, but there's no fixing shitholers. If they've got non European admixture, they've got to go.
c82ad1 No.550178
>>550176
What about the fact that theyre telling their daughters to marry whites? Or genetically engineering themselves to be more white? Is that assimiation?
https://www.nature.com/news/chinese-scientists-genetically-modify-human-embryos-1.17378
Nah choose niggers, Im sure they will assimilate better.
aee654 No.550179
>>550178
>Race mixing is based
>They are genetically engineering themselves
Wow really trying to fit in there, not take over at all.
>Nah choose niggers, Im sure they will assimilate better.
>Americans think like this
Fucking hell
d2ac72 No.550183
>another thread derailed by goblinposting brit
I don't get how burger spurdo rolls of your backs, but this shitty goon meme fucking infuriates you faggots.
a25341 No.550185
>>550177
>believing in one drop theory
Genetic recombination is blocky as hell. Within a few generations, you can easily breed out any non-white genes.
21581e No.550187
>>550185
Well, enjoy your mongrel children. I'll be keeping mine white.
1c34fa No.550188
>>550183
>another thread derailed by goblinposting brit
Expect that it all started with this post: >>549959
639758 No.550210
Actually got a question for the 56% Brit, all shitposting aside.
If your country's government is already nanny state tier cuckholding beyond all belief at 99%, just how bad is it gonna get if you ever reach 56%? You've listed all of our major cities being nonwhite, but think about this: whites had to be an absolute minority in those areas before they ever even started to become closer to you guys politically. Don't sit there and post "at least i still have the constitution.jpg" I want to have an actual discussion here.
Fear the future lads.
907d20 No.550213
>>550148
>This is a painting of Manuel Lorenzo Justiniano de Zavala y Sáenz, better known as Lorenzo de Zavala
>brown eyes
>black hair
Yeah, he's not white.
>>550178
>if you don't like sliteyes you must love niggers
Err, how about neither? It's not a question of one or the other. Accepting chinks into your nation won't suddenly make niggers disappear.
>>550183
>start shit and cry "muh London"
>get BTFO by your own demographics data
>"ROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO FUCKING BRITS, STOP DERAILING MUH THREADS ROOOO, MUH GOONS, QUICK, POST ANIME TO SCARE DA GOONZ!"
I haven't even posted any 56% faces you autist, all I posted was your own nation's demographics, I can post some 56% faces if you want me to though.
>>550210
>just how bad is it gonna get if you ever reach 56%
That's when the fun begins
>every single person who has ever posted a 56% face is the same person
Niceme.me
d790fb No.550217
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>>550188
What's wrong with goblinposting?
66f2fa No.550219
>All this racebait shitposting
Tradesman here. I work with a mixed group of asians and islanders. We've got Brit tradesmen here who would rather work in the US with us "56%" than in Britbongistan as well. Regardless of race, if I give them a job those fuckers get it done. When I was helping a buddy in construction, it was quite clear that the white Americans were racist as shit against all the spics working in construction/landscaping/roofing and none of them gave a shit. You could tell the spics who just wanted to keep their head down and raise a family from the cholo faggots because the cholos would get fired or never allowed back on a job site within a week of being hired due to their attitude or work ethic. I realize tradesmen aren't representative of the whole population, but I think MLK was on to something- Niggers gonna nig and you should expect nigging, but you should still judge someone based on the content of their character, not their race. If you can't get past this point, then enjoy your unemployment, alcoholism, and 56%, because you're part of the problem that keeps us racists from living the comfy life we want to live.
66f2fa No.550220
>>550217
>First image is towerfag shit
Eat shit.
66f2fa No.550221
>>550219
Also you haven't really experienced dealing with spics until you've been invited to their home for dinner, watched their kids act like little shits, and proceed to get beaten within an inch of their life to instill some god damn respect and fear of god into them.
da8aca No.550236
>>549649
thats why this may be a super entertaining war if it gets decent coverage.
Oh, the Guyana Defense Force Officer corp is trained at Sandhurst per wiki. Does anon know if britbongs have gone the ranger school route and just pass people for politics reasons/convenience or is Sandhurst still a meritocracy? If so I imagine Guyana may actually have better leadership.
>>549656
Imports. Having access to gold could ensure the short term demands of Maduro's regime. There are plenty of regimes that wouldn't mind trading with Maduro for gold, even under blockade/sanction (Best Korea, Cuba, Iran ect). If not that way, it would allow Maduro to access the massive black markets across South and middle america which again could supply his regime with supplies I'm sure they are even running low on.
>>549952
Dependent on the level of support that Guyana recieves. If the Brits or murricans put boots on the ground (unlikely), its a definite defeat for Maduro. Brazil has a much higher chance of becoming involved but I doubt they would do anything more than aid and logistics, which would give Guyana a chance, but wouldn't guarantee much. I suppose the Brits could send their one carrier and see if thats effective in stopping a division or more men, but again I don't see that happening.
Honestly I'm just waiting for a bunch of starving commies to try and massacre a bunch of niggers and street shitters. Good times ahead.
3f0feb No.550237
>>550210
When 50% is hit there is no way to reclaim the country in my eyes. It's been left too late. Politically will be much the same to where you are heading from which we can see in the vanguards at american university campuses.
66f2fa No.550238
>>550236
I think the main advantage are sea lanes if Venezuela can capture Guyana. Right now they're at risk because the Caribbean will block them off if they start shit and the US can focus on their tiny portion of sea lanes outside of Caribbean routes. If they can capture Guyana's west side, that would expand their shipping routes/sea routes by about 100 miles of coastline which would make blockades and the like a lot harder.
21581e No.550239
>>550236
That brings up a good point, what does Maduro's AA look like? Has he got anything modern over there?
66f2fa No.550240
>>550236
>>550238
>>550239
From what I understand, Maduro has the advantage of air superiority and naval superiority over Guyana, but from a ground invasion standpoint, even with superior numbers it would probably be their defeat (especially if Brazil gets involved). If the US or Brits get involved, his air superiority would go out the window, and there's a chance the Caribbean would get involved making his naval superiority falter.
21581e No.550242
>>550240
Does he has a chance of downing burger or bong planes though? If instead of an outright invasion force, a small task force was sent, the loses would pile up quick from even a few down jets. And as far as I know, Huezil is on the brink of a social collapse right now, though that might have passed already. Involvement in a war that the people don't really care about could see them engulfed in civil war themselves. Please correct me if I'm terribly misinformed there.
I guess what I'm asking is, can Maduro pose enough of an anti air threat, that outside powers would hesitate to send anything smaller than a full on invasion force?
66f2fa No.550245
>>550242
Allegedly he has 5,000 manpads, but those are only somewhat effective if the enemy isn't aware that they're in hostile territory, are using shit-tier planes, or are simply caught off-guard combined with high-precision tracking. ( https://archive.fo/jwQKn ). Maduro wants to get his military as far away from the capital as possible because he's afraid of a military coup in the next couple years, but similarly enemy air forces would force him to leave defense at home. It wouldn't need to be full on attacks, just the fear of being attacked in the capital would likely drive him into a corner/keep him from fully utilizing his air force (unless he's an idiot or insane). I can't speak for the Hues, but from what I understand, they fucking hate Venezuela and it's on par with Turkroaches entering Eastern Europe, so they don't want a bigger border for the commie faggots to cross over illegally.
Maduro has a lot to gain from a Guyana invasion, but everyone else doesn't have very much to lose from attacking him, it's one of those situations. Brazil could relieve some of the social sentiment in their own country by attacking Venezuela and stealing their natural resources/driving their borders back so they don't have a clear sea route (this would also likely drive Venezuela into a hunger-based civil war due to sanctions and their own shitty economic policies where toilet paper is worth more than money).
66f2fa No.550246
>>550245
I'm just an Agorist burger looking at things from an economic/business standpoint though. I don't really get patriotic sentiment so I can't really think about rational irrationality like nationalist sentiments in regards to resource wars.
121836 No.550248
>>550245
I'd like to see the BRs handle regional conflicts themselves but you know the US can't help itself when it comes to oil-rich nations. I imagine the war machine is already firing itself up and you'll see the politicians signaling intervention already.
0eaa03 No.550249
I'm a little shaky on this, but isn't Guyana part of the Commonwealth? I know it's a fairly loose association of nations, but I'm fairly sure the UK would be a trifle miffed if Maduro invaded for no reason.
135b99 No.550250
>>550245
>but from what I understand, they fucking hate Venezuela
That's not true.
We hate Argentina more than ever.
The issues about Venezuela is strictly political.
66f2fa No.550253
>>550250
>We hate Argentina more
I was always under the impression that this was more of a playful rivalry, and y'all settled that shit in the 1800s?
135b99 No.550257
>>550253
Politically we are fine, but in both sides we don't really like each other.
9a61f5 No.550258
>>550245
>communist
>idiot
>insane
Not exactly mutually exclusive.
21581e No.550266
>>550245
Sounds like Maduro has to jump, and now we get to see who jumps with him.
Given the general war weariness, and not insignificant numbers of commies here in bugerland, I imagine getting involved in this one will be a hard sell. Not that it really matters, as our betters just do whatever they want these days, but it wouldn't happen without repercussions at this point. From a purely bloodsports spectator point of view, I'd really like to see a proper war take place without major powers rolling over everything and fucking it up, and from an overtaxed and increasingly irritated citizen point of view I have no interest in getting involved in any more empire building. That enough missles to make the bongs blink anyway, who can say if it would stop them. Funny enough I think most burgers would be more upset about other euros shitting in "our backyard" than if we just let whatever happen down there play out. In fact, them getting into that war would probably drag us into it as well. Would be nice if the brits just kept it in their pants this once, but hell maybe this will be our Franz Ferdinand, and the social unrest it kicks up will be the catalyst of a proper happening.
As for Brazil, I don't really care who wins this war. That said, I'm very curious how the militaries down that way will hold up. If the rest of NATO stays out of it, this could be fodder for a whole new generation of media, cawadoodies and all. If they jump in, maybe the argies will pounce in. And from there, who knows.
3a0352 No.550278
>>550019
It's like Paraguay and East Timor, not even real countries.
907d20 No.550307
>>550249
Yeah, we got arseblasted as fuck at you when you invaded Grenada, if a small 3rd world nation like Venuzuala did the same thing rather than a superpower, I think we'd actually do something instead of just bitching
5fc155 No.550328
What's Venesuela's casus beli?
66f2fa No.550334
>>550328
Allegedly ownership over everything west of some river, which is 2/3rds of Guyana. The international courts have been taking their sweet ass time with the case (but seem to be leaning in favor of Guyana), and if Venezuela invades, the courts will temporarily postpone the ruling so as to try to prevent an international conflict.
de0150 No.550364
>>550307
This is a good question, would the modern bong army actually be able to do something against starving commie peasants.
ae0f2f No.550366
>>550307
>>550364
Eh, people shat on the UK army back before the Falklands War, and even then the UK curbstomped Argentina. I know on paper they are in a bad way, but I wouldn't be in a rush to underestimate them if they get pissed.
In addition, if the US was offering under the table help against Agentina during that conflict, we will almost certainly offer much more support if the UK decides to start swinging at Venezula. There is a lot of variables here which makes an invasion of Guyana an extremely risky move.