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What's the matter CIA, don't have enough funding for your wargames scenarios? :^)

In all seriousness, you can assume that most of the population will sway to the revolters. Should I back the federal government who have been incompetent in the war, or these local insurgents that have been securing food and killing off the gang members? A revolution is comprised of brothers, sisters, mothers, fathers, family people pushed far enough that they decide to push back.

>>548981

Not CIA. Regular joe here tired of the Spanish mafia.

>>548983

We have around 6% that would be commited. However it should be started in a non-violent manner, or violent towards infrastructure.

>>548993

Overall? I can't imagine women being too involved.

>>549035

Yep. People are extremely fed up with the spanish esstablishment lawfare. more women contacted me than men.

More men will join once they see its serious.

>>548977

Isn't the number historically 7% or something like that? The exception of course is a civil war when you'll need a lot more.

>>549136

Anywhere around that. 10% is where your ideas start spilling into the mainstream

>>548977

>I'm here to start a discussion one what would be needed to do an effective revolution.

First of all, you can't start a revolution if certain conditions are met first. Ever heard of Maslow's hierarchy of needs. Same shit. Most of the times, you can stomp over the law and the people's rights if their most basic needs are met. They will get angry and pissy if their social networks are being spied by the government as long as they can eat, earn money and enough leisures to numb the brain.

No food, no money, no fun= shit will get real.

This is just one (and most of the times the main) of the reasons why a revolution starts. Ethnic and ideological (this includes religion) tensions are among others

>>549065

If your being support by an estblished power, it’s called treason not a revolution.

>>555697

>kill people that speak against you. Target their families.

That’s terrorism

>>548977

Guerrilla warfare is more psychological than anything else. Assassinate politions/business people who piss of most of the population. Get the established order to cack down on peaceful protesters. This does two things. It makes the established order look bad, and it makes peaceful protesters become violent and join your underground army. Use your violence to do things that increase your popularity. Then target police and military outposts through small guerrilla cells. Both a breakdown of rule of law and mass public support are necessary. Once both are achieved coming to power is as easy as walking into the capital building and declaring yourself to be the new government.

>>555808

Proto-Communism.

>>555744

You are aware that at least 90% of the various 'revolutions' around the world were run by (or at least instigated by) some other nations intelligence services, right?

For a revolt to be successfully it needs support from the military or military aid from outside all the more so now when the government has tanks, IFVs and Helicopters and an advanced support and communication network.

>>548977

In this day and age?

Popular opinion. For example, a second revolution in America can not happen unless you have the large plurality of the populace behind you. Mainly because soldiers are normal folks who have families. They care about their families a whole lot more then the federal government (and some do see themselves as serving the Nation and Constitution, not the government).

So what would need to happen? A massive government fuck up and a shift towards true tyranny.

The problem is any fighting is going to last…a couple weeks unless the government is suicidal. Brits thought they could put down the American Revolution because it was just Militia Men and philosophers. But if you have 30-40% of the country turned against you and a nice chunk of people who don't know what side they support the opponent is fucked.

Step 1: Have a foreign ally to fund you

Step 2: Don't surrender

>>555744

>If your being support by an estblished power, it’s called treason not a revolution.(sic)

Revolution is by it's very nature, a seditious and treasonous act.

>>555697

>Target their families

>DO NOT TARGET INNOCENT CIVILIANS

What did he mean by this?

You're right on the latter though.

The nature of modern warfare requires a revolutionary fighting force to be savy on fourth generation warfare and the necessity to use modern technology fully to your advantage. Think ISIS when it first started with it's surprisingly high quality propoganda videos. If you had a format that merged direct military action with mass media like ISIS did you could win.

Looks like OP is getting his wish >>>/pol/11326320

>>556705

That post is utter nonsense.

It makes no sense even if you take everything it claims as fact.

>>549061

>Wargames happening in Langley

<"This is where we bring in the Glock suicide bombers sir"

>"You mean the suicide bombers are also armed with a 9mm pistol? That seems a little superfluous"

<"No sir, they use the glocks as explosives, they need very little modification to explode with the force of several lbs of Semtex, the research reports are summarised in appendix /8/k-19284 in the prep notes"

>"Huh, things you never knew. So after they blow up it's time for stage 3?"

<"Yes sir, and for this we'll need to requisition 317 pairs of very short shorts"

>"Ok … I also notice that these short shorts clad insurgents aren't issued body armour. Are you sure they're going to last long enough to make a difference at this stage of the exercise?"

<"It's OK sir, if you look through the prep notes you'll see that the latest studies *prove* that the 5.56mm rounds the security forces are firing are about as threatening as a shot from a waterpistol!"

<"We should probably make recommendations that all US agents and forces upgrade to H&K G11s immediately"

>"G11s?"

<"Yes sir, we estimate that they're 8 generations advanced from the G3s that were introduced at about the same time as the M16s our forces are currently using"

>"Good God! Order as many of these G11s as you can get hold of, NOW!"

>>556709

>Someone gets up and shoots them both, then himself for an attempt to dismantle the brass mafia by switching to caseless ammunition

>>556712

kek