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There's no discharge in the war!

File: ec5852c3ab2d645⋯.jpeg (61.73 KB, 800x557, 800:557, serveimage.jpeg)

0489c7 No.543122

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-01-08/32-missing-oil-tanker-on-fire-after-collision-off-china/9310276

http://archive.is/GIzcw

Holy shit it happened again.

Iranian oil tanker rammed into a freighter. The tanker is alight, and probably not going to be extinguished anytime soon.

What the fuck is causing all of these naval collisions? In the past six months there have been more of them than in the past six years combined. Are captains just getting more and more retarded, or are there just too many ships to avoid collisions safely nowadays?

98b2c7 No.543126

>intelligence agencies have hacked every Iranian computer since they got them

>ship navigation is no longer as simple as looking at a map and honking at cunts who get in your way

>America throwing increasingly large bitch fits over Iran

>Iranian tankers suddenly keep running into things owned by their allies

Hmm… Really makes you think.


0489c7 No.543128

>ramming Iranian oil tankers into Chinese chemical plants

I would pay good money to watch those fireworks.


71c388 No.543129

>>543126

>Implying it's not the Israeli.

Active Industrial sabotage (bombings, hackings, etc…) against Iran has always been the IDF so far, hacking and sinking oil freighter to China sounds far more like shit they like to pull.

This count a direct action per US doctrine, it doesn't per Israeli doctrine.

The US preferred trick is financing/arming/training the opposition and creating mass protests (which is "democracy" so it doesn't count as an hostile action against a sovereign nation that you need to run by at least some congressman).


98b2c7 No.543130

>>543129

>Implying it's not the Israeli.

<implying there's a difference :^)


5a7b06 No.543135

>>543122

>Iranian oil tanker rammed into a freighter

Why is this on /k/? Are commercial vessels weapons too now?


0489c7 No.543136

>>543135

A lot of US naval accidents caused suspicion among Streloks.

It's as if a lot of military guns all of a sudden exploded, but then civillian guns of another nation had what appears to be a similar problem, and nobody knows why.

I believe there is some relevance to /k/.


c27ecc No.543147

>>543122

There are no captains anymore, ships are controlled remotely with gps guidance


e84314 No.543153

>>543128

you and me both


c3e89a No.543162

File: 3d31709dc3112ca⋯.jpg (546.16 KB, 560x1500, 28:75, 776cbb551738c71c77e76a91ba….jpg)

>>543122

Navy surface forces general released a statement a few days ago pretty much saying navigation/communication crews are being overworked. They need either more small ships to stock their crew on or reduce the number of missions they're preforming.


172c30 No.543255

>>543122

>What the fuck is causing all of these naval collisions?

FIFTY

SIX

PER

CENT


172c30 No.543256

>>543135

Iranians are muslim. Everything that can explode is a potential weapon to them.


599cbf No.543277

Its simple, navy seals hijacked the iranian tanker.


ff91f7 No.543283

>>543162

Here we go, found it: https://archive.fo/evXgM


12cd26 No.543284

>>543128

>Not ramming iranian ammo ships into chinese bootleg firework storehouse

Do you even want fireworks, bruh?


0d758c No.543292

File: 551a795937a7563⋯.png (17.24 KB, 586x350, 293:175, ClipboardImage.png)

There are more ships in the same amount of space operated by increasingly third-world companies.


1894df No.543330

>>543136

China is using some kind of radar blocking device on one of their islands to shield it from prying eyes and the USA doesn't understand the tech behind it, just my theory.


7c108a No.543335

File: a642a95c6459d90⋯.jpg (60.57 KB, 400x400, 1:1, happy guts.jpg)

>it may not be our fault this time


e1c677 No.543361

>>543330

>Chinese

>Innovation


bc4739 No.543377

>>543330

It's tech the CIA developed but never gave the secrets to anyone. They have 2200+ black sites and keep that shit to themselves, but the Chinks have been stealing as much as they can from them if possible as well as everywhere else in the US. Their quantum communication networks is all thanks to espionage on the space programs they've got., their advancement in AI development can be thanked entirely to outsourcing from US companies hiring them to build their stuff. What is happening is that the traitors that glow in the dark is refusing to give their tech to the people who need it the most and letting the US's enemies get their grubby hands on it.


402042 No.543578

File: 62f526c88f479d1⋯.png (9.49 MB, 3840x1600, 12:5, 1212.png)

Who knew naval warfare would once again return to it's roots?


4fc493 No.543605

File: 1c5e086685cf69a⋯.png (175.06 KB, 500x250, 2:1, 1436162518651.png)

>globalization = international trade

>international trade = ships

>more globalization = more ships

There are more ships today than yesterday and they are being crewed by cheap 3rd world labor more and more.

Once again the solution is nationalism and protectionism.


6a865b No.543622

>>543576

AFAIK from my relatives it's still testing and their encountering serious issues with decryption the messages. The theory is sound… The practical use not so much.

>Implying the weakest part of comms isnt the human factor.


5e6c8d No.543655

>>543605

>sits on a goldmine

>lets ethnics and reds run all over it while getting shitfaced after working 12 hours extracting said gold for Zhang

Just what the fuck are you doing, Straya?


4ebf8f No.543673

>>543655

Following in the footsteps of papa Britain.

It's a fucking tragedy.


b9ad2f No.543675

>>543330

how would that even work? i am pretty sure something like that is impossible to implement


4fc493 No.543676

File: dcfc5abe0a679b3⋯.gif (232.37 KB, 994x636, 497:318, 1386913660845.gif)

>>543655

As someone that actually worked in the mines it makes me sad. We could nationalize it and enjoy Saudi levels of wealth but our politicians are brought and do whatever their owner says.


0489c7 No.543713

>>543622

>Implying the weakest part of comms isnt the human factor.

Holy shit this so much.

When we were doing work near a training grounds for new recruits. I was allowed to bring a normal non-military radio to listen to music while I guarded a pile of boxes for two weeks straight.

I don't know what happened, but for some reason I could pick up military comms on my radio I didn't modify it at all. Pls no v&s.

I believe that one of their radios was fucked and transmitted on multiple frequencies. At the end of the first day I knew all of their codewords, and could predict when they would change their Alarmposts.


44c4bf No.543714

>>543578

Nothing new in that: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naval_ram#Twentieth_century Although now I have to wonder if you could make a submarine that can successfully ram an aircraft carrier.


6a951b No.543721

>>543135

Because it involves the military which is always /k/ related. And apparently our navy can't avoid hitting civilian ships.


0489c7 No.543727

>>543721

But anon, it was an Iranian civilian oil tanker that collided with a Chinese freighter.


41e759 No.543735

>>543721

>american literacy


6a865b No.543819

>>543713

No encryption is unbreakable, it's just making it to the point where it's impractical. Much easier just to capture and interrogate a prisioner than crack an algorthm blind.

>>543727

I'll bet that the ship's crew were MSS if they indeed were doing offshore oil transfers.


726ebc No.543839

>>543727

>>543735

well shit. I just assumed with the fuck ups that we have commanding ships it was us again and didn't read the whole title.


d84bdf No.543859

>>543122

>USN ship wasn't involved

fake news.


0e300f No.543862

File: 1dfd9f6409fccd5⋯.png (25.72 KB, 448x274, 224:137, security[1].png)

File: 0837739b96e0282⋯.jpg (383.69 KB, 1920x1200, 8:5, wRJPosw[1].jpg)

>>543819

>No encryption is unbreakable, it's just making it to the point where it's impractical.

There's not enough resources in the solar system to break strong crypto, even if practicalities were tossed aside.

i'll fuck off back to /tech/ now


ff91f7 No.543863

>>543862

You should know that any American or European shit is already as good as unencrypted as a /tech/phile given NSA/EU backdoor regulations.


0e300f No.543870

File: 27648c9e4cf594c⋯.gif (77.74 KB, 900x266, 450:133, dt011025.gif)

>>543863

It depends. We have strong cryptographic algorithms and we know they're strong because math. You can get a secure software setup with open source, if you're autistic enough. But TBH Apple right now is doing a pretty good job of trolling the TLAs three letter agencies for now with iphone security, although could very well be groundwork to get legislation in place for (((legitimate law enforcement efforts)))

What's really, truly fucking scary to me is if the random number generators built into the CPUs are compromised. You can homebrew modern software but for modern hardware you pretty much have to trust that to someone. Like Intel. Or China. fuuuuggggg


ee4e79 No.543883

>>543862

XKCD is reddit cancer.


376c28 No.543887

>>543676

>implying your country wouldn't just turn into Venezuela if you nationalised everything

>implying being a banana republic is a good thing long term

Saudi Arabia is fucked long term, just like every other country which enjoyed a long period of easy living because of natural resources or otherwise.

>>543862

>2nd pic

Nobody does brute force attacks against things like that

SHA1 wasn't broken through brute force but through clever attacks against the fundamental way it works

SHA2 isn't what actually protects your bitcoin wallet anyway, elliptic curve cryptography is

Quantum computers shit all over elliptic curve cryptography by way of Shor's algorithm


0e300f No.543895

>>543887

Most attacks on crypto reduce the effective key size and make a brute force attempts on the smaller key feasible. It's often easy enough to just double the key size though.

And quantum computers aren't going to be shitting over anything until someone figures out how to actually build them. People have already started thinking up "post-quantum" ciphers, including ECC based ones. On a technical level something like Bitcoin, if it's still around, could easily adapt to use new ciphers too.

If you need encryption that will be secure 50+ years out then yeah quantum computers could be a threat but most applications of public/private keys are temporary or ephemeral by design (e.g. certificates) and there will be plenty of opportunities to react to developments in quantum computing.


4fc493 No.543897

File: 48f06357ed354ce⋯.webm (1.38 MB, 640x360, 16:9, Aussie_Advice.webm)

>>543887

>implying your country wouldn't just turn into Venezuela if you nationalised everything

Hello my under 30yo friend, Australia was extremely nationalized when John Howard became PM in 1996, he then privatized everything in an attempt to reduce national debit and in the process reduced the governments income to the point that no PM since has even mentioned reducing national debit because they realize it's not possible with the reduced income.

Australia is one of the very few nations that got nationalism right but our globalist 'merican overlords didn't like that so we ditched it.


6e1e5d No.543898

>>543883

XKCD is hit and miss miss more than hit but the hits can occasionally be good shorthand for various observations in the world of science and technology. As time has gone on however it's gotten less and less good, but it was never 100% hits.

However many of the comics are complete and utter irredeemable shit, 1357 being the most egregious example.

I've heard current XKCD strips past 1500 described as "aggressively mediocre" and I tend to agree, though I draw the line much earlier.

What-If was actually good though.

Sage for off topic.


4e1dca No.543901

>>543887

>just like every other country which enjoyed a long period of easy living because of natural resources

Unless you count genes as natural resources you are partially wrong.

I seriously doubt Norway will devolve into a turd world shithole when her oil-reserves run dry.


8db281 No.543903

>>543901

You can't devolve into what you already are.




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