/k/ - Weapons

You guys scrapped the rifle registry right? So just buy an AR-180B in America and smuggle it in, the cops can't prove it's not yours.

Wasn't it made explicitly to be cheaper to build than the 15? I know the economy of scale has made the 15 cheaper due to volume of parts available, but what's to stop an entrepreneur from flooding the north american market with century tier, stanag mag taking 180Bs?

>>533598

Tooling cost. Why would a company in a capitalist economy spend a significant amount of time and effort to set up for a gun that may or may not be a commercial success when they can just buy a CAD machine, have monkeys spew out AR15 parts and print money?

>>533625

Because of long term gain? Any company worth its salt thinks ahead in terms of dozens or hundreds of quarters.

The Walmart company lost significant amounts of money in the beginning, had almost no profit, when they were building their base network. Even today they have a loss leader program, they buy eggs for $.30ea and sell them for $.20ea, losing a dollar or more per dozen eggs (remember shipping!) because the cheap egg prices attract customers to the more expensive cheeses in the same aisle.

I don't think you understand what

>capitalist

Means, if you think it's all about short term gain.

Only corporations (which are socialist) can afford to think about short term gain, because the government protects their ass in case of failure.

>>533466

You forgot the BCL102 or the Modern Varmint.

>>533488

>You guys scrapped the rifle registry right? So just buy an AR-180B in America and smuggle it in, the cops can't prove it's not yours.

there isn't a database of whoever buys a rifle in Canada?

>>533466

Please smuggle your SVT-40s, factory SBSs and SBRs please and you get our standard capacity magazines ;^) .

>>533647

>there isn't a database of whoever buys a rifle in Canada?

Used to be there was a registry of all guns, but the non-restricted registry was scrapped under Harper. Now it's only restricted guns that have to be registered, so mostly handguns, plus scary rifles that they haven't banned yet, like the AR-15.

Of course, it may not stay like that long. The news was going on this morning about a study claiming 70-odd% of Canadians would support banning guns from urban areas.

>>533625

Yeah, except that the 180b's receivers can be made from a stamping and welding instead of milling, which will allow for full rifles costing 300$ if you use off the shelf components like the keltec su16c's barrel and gas system, which itself was derived from the 180b. Even with a markup, cucucks would gobble them up at 500$, ready for the racewar. Shit, a slightly modified ar15 lower could be matted to a slightly modified 180b upper for the second takedown pin.

>>533690

>Shit, a slightly modified ar15 lower could be matted to a slightly modified 180b upper for the second takedown pin.

And vice versa, make slightly modified 180b lowers and use all the other, nonrestricted, ar15 parts.

Look up the Maccabee SLR. It's a non-restricted AR-15. It's $1000 just for the lower though, fucking black rifle tax.

Hopefully Abe will lift export restrictions. Type 89 would be a great rifle if you can't have an AR15.

>>533652

>70-odd% of Canadians would support banning guns from urban areas.

Elaborate, my cancuckold friend

>>533707

Isn't there also some compatibility issues with some lower parts? I hear it doesn't take some types of triggers.

>>533731

I don't know exactly what it can and can't take, but I imagine it'll take any milspec trigger. You could conceivably get a used Norchinko for about $500 and make yourself a $1500 nr AR15.

>>533652

>urban areas

you mean toronto and only toronto

>>533807

The radio mentioned Montreal and Vancouver, and also reported that Alberta had the lowest rate of support for such a ban at 40%. It was talking Canada-wide.

>>533648

Or the vz58, T97, su16, or a Valmet. Or if you're a richfag a Lynx.

wow canada threads on double chan are pretty slow

>>533812

You faggots are so fucked.

>>540073

At least we're not yet Bongistan levels, we can still buy plastic knives at the super market

>>533638

>Only corporations (which are socialist) can afford to think about short term gain, because the government protects their ass in case of failure.

This anon is spot on well I might disagree with the use of the specific term socialist but it does neatly capture the intertwining of government and large corporations, donate a few hundred million to the right campaign and lucrative jobs/public speaking opportunities basically a fancy way to launder money for bribes and you're golden when it comes to protecting yourself as a corporation. Hell pretty much every major import restriction on firearms in the US only really exists to protect inefficient domestic production: they just wait for a convenient political issue and push for it then.

A non-firearms example would be privatised rail travel in the UK: a for-profit company being subsidised to run a service they only won because they put the lowest bid in for is a fucking joke. Worse case if they still can't survive they just get let out of their contract early and have the government step in.

>>533648

XCR is an interesting and good design

>>533812

(((polls))) on the radio

>>549098

link because I'm a faggot

https://www.wolverinesupplies.com/ProductDetail/KODWK180CONLINE#?sortValue=0

>>549098

>>549100

You can also buy it straight from the source as well. http://westrifle.com/wrstore/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=35&products_id=2287

>>549098

This is basically what the scar should have been. I hope they start selling them in the US, I can see the market for this since its not (totally) an AR.

>>549155

Yeah, except german autism turned what was supposed to be a replacement to the M4 into a mess of plastic and reciprocating mass. But this shit right here is the future, at a third of the cost. Embedding jewtube to give these guys exposure, I hope they start selling or importing to the US.

>It physically hurts to see those poor cacucks with 5 and 10 round mags.

Embed in question because I'm retarded.

>>549221

>It physically hurts to see those poor cacucks with 5 and 10 round mags.

It’s a tiny pin usually, nothing that a drill doesn’t fix. But of course that would be illegal, and thus I don’t/haven’t done that ever. Because the Canadian gun laws are fair and just.

>>549221

They'd have to be set up in a sporting use fashion like Veprs did and god forbid anyone finds out Russians have anything to do with it.

>>549443

The more north you go the less law you see. Food for thought.

>>549443

You motherfuckers really do need to have your civil war. You're the only faggots with guns and your military is the size of a small city spread through a continental landmass.

>>549448

Or they could team up with an importer like most of them do. Even with a middle man those guns won't be more than 800 burgerbucks out the door for what basically is a well built piston AR with potential folding stock.

>>549457

If I recall they were the guys who source the parts for all the PPSh-41's with the goofy 16" barrels with the full barrel shrouds. They know their way around. I'm gonna go see them next month if you have any questions.

>>549459

>I'm gonna go see them next month if you have any questions.

Ask if they have any plans on trying to export to burgerland

>>549462

That I can do for I'm interested in having something to match the bong killer back home.

>>549459

Please ask about 300blk, classic ugly side folding stock, exporting to US (bears repeating), stamped steel/polymer poorfag version, and being sold as parts kits/lowers to aid customization. The goal and success of this weapons lies in facilitating the arming of as many europeans as possible by making it the hipoint of long guns.

>>549459

Oh and is gas system adjustable? If not (and it doesn't need one since price/reliability is the selling point) can an upgrade be made available in the future?

>>549577

>>549583

I called for you.

>300blk

If they're going to do another caliber its going to be 7.62x39. As for the gas system its basically what you find on an AR. If they do a x39 they're also going to do 6.5 grend and possibly 5.45. They wouldn't diverge on the whole barrel thing so I'm assuming they're making them and it isn't out of the possibility.

>classic ugly side folding stock

How the stock goes on as of right now is an adapter. So in theory you'll be able to put any sort of modern stock in with an adapter. They do plan on selling them with a folding stock of some sort. So no on the classic looking side folder.

>stamped steel/polymer poorfag version

Nope. They're trying to figure out how to make the classic AR-18 wobble go away as is. They don't have the time for that, they're piss cheap as is.

> parts kits/lowers

They sold a thousand of them in three days. They're honestly swamped as is.

As for export I haven't a clue yet and they probably don't too.

>>549724

>an actually good canuck

You're the best

>slavshit instead of of surpressable 300blk

Makes sense since you lucky bastards have access to chinese made slavshit

>adapter for stocks

I've seen that in some of your canuck 180 lowers, but I figured it was patented. Good to see cooperation amongst you.

>No poorfag models

This I completely disagree with. Do you know how many niggers use hi points? Do you think they care about how it looks/wobbles when they use them to murder whites and each other by the bushel? I've met poorfag bubbas who want a long gun but can't afford an AR. Hopefully scale can make the manufacturing cost go down, but should seriously consider it in the future as they need to sell as many as possible before your kike government restricts them like they did the AR. At least the receivers, as part of the aforementioned kits.

>1k in 3 days

Good! Hopefully they aren't scalpers, which is another reason they should have a poorfag version.

>Export?

They could/should license them to a US manufacturer like PSA if they can't outright bring them in legally.

>>549929

Not a leafnigger but anyway. They got back to me on the .300blk and its a definite yes in the future given its just a barrel that needs to be made. Besides that chinkshit isn't cheap anymore, most shoot commercial Russian stuff/Russian surplus. They honestly don't have the facility to stamp or do polymer lowers besides that I would not trust a polymer lower on a AR-18, its the weakest point on em. They aren't even that great on AR-15's.

>>550056

>polymer isn't as good

Everyone knows that polymer isn't ideal, but it's the fact that they would only need to last through the race war. Only having to make plastic lowers makes it easier for someone to obtain the controlled piece, to then later buy a parts kit. I think it would betray the 180 design to treat it like an AR, as many choices should be available as possible to arm White Canadians for kebab and chink removal.

>>550094

The rural folk are already armed to the teeth and anyone else tends to have an SKS and tins of ammo at minimum. Militia folk tend to roam the woods, unfortunately they can't cover everywhere. If I'm correct once production gets going they'll probably have parts kits going out everywhere, I mean Type 81 parts kits are coming in the next month and receivers aren't a hard thing to make.

I understand you're whole dealio though. Nothing like chasing injuns outta my woods.

>>550104

your*

>>550104

>>533652

Wasn't there an attempted gun confiscation in Canada in the 90's? Except some farmer blew the fuck out of some Mounties with a FAL? Suddenly the police refuse to stick their necks out enforcing the injunction, and the whole thing is quietly forgotten about.

>>550104

You better hope you're right, because the fight will be coming to you sooner than you think. Once this economy tanks, the jews and their golem will strike as they always do. You're gonna want as many people on your side as possible, considering how pozzed your country has become.

>>550129

Just got my PAL/RPAL and the essential SKS / 1500 round tin can, feels good.

>>550120

They more or less begged people to register their guns and to turn the naughty ones in after that. Nobody listened to their pleas though.

>>550129

Oh I know, I've been raised with the whole its on your shoulders to make the best of a really shitty situation and then fix it. I've got enough folk back home to count on as well as some good folk here too. Just worry about yourself.

>>550133

Convert it over to use AR mags. You'll be glad you did.

>>550416

>Nobody listened to their pleas though.

Can you drop me some names or links so I can prove I'm not talking out of my ass when I bring this up in casual conversation?

>>550464

http://www.sfu.ca/~mauser/papers/long-gun/The-LGR.pdf

tldr less than half of civilian owned guns were actually registered, registry turned into liberal money laundering scheme

>>550469

Thanks, that was informative.

One last question: What was the name of the farmer that BTFO the mounties? Are there any surviving news articles on the event?

>>549098

I remember this, sounds like they are working to get approval to import stateside

>>533488

I'm not saying it would be easy for a canuck to buy a gun in the US; I'm just saying crossing the border with it would be the time you're most likely to get caught.

If anyone asks for your ID at a US gunshow just go into a paranoid anti-government diatribe about paper trails. That way they'll think you're a prepper instead of a criminal. You can also tell which sellers are more willing to be a bit shady. Fat, scruffy old guys selling "solvent traps" will be your go to. Could also buy a fake ID that's meant to go to underage people for alcohol as no individual will have an ID scanner there anyways.

>>533598

I'm not sure if it would even be any cheaper now. LGS has brand new AR-15s for $399.99, not sure what brand though.

>>557312

>LGS has brand new AR-15s for $399.99

I'd avoid them at that price; I'm sure they'll work, but you can get a better one just by buying a lower and waiting for a sale from PSA for ~$50 more. assuming that gun control bs dies down

>>557425

Gave them a visit. They're sold out for now, 27 rifles came in a week ago. Armalite 15EA01 "Eagle-15". I've got a build in the works already or I'd snag one.

>>550473

Probably not; if it was ever was reported on that natives and rural folk were shooting at the RCMP attempting the physical collection effort, and that it actually worked in driving them off to the point where even in the modern era they REFUSE to back up reclassifications with physical collections, there'd have been mass hysteria in the cities and people would have immediately recognized the idea for what it was; a complete and total farce. It's kind of the same thing that happened in Australia; no one knows what the non-compliance rate is there, but seeing as less than a million firearms were even handed in, and only around a million registered in a country where there had existed literally millions before the grab, it is probably REALLY high.

The only thing that allows normalfags and the media to keep pushing this registration, prohibition, and confiscation method as some kind of a solution is making sure that the general public never think about or realize how much of an impossible, logistical clusterfuck it would be to ever follow through on it.

>>550473

I haven't seen any militia folk in a long while, they're probably in other nowhere at the moment. I'll ask when I see those sort again.