/k/ - Weapons

>What's the quietest gun/ammo setup that is reasonable for home defense?

Silenced .45ACP

>Ignoring suppressors, is there any way to mitigate the inevitable permanent ear damage that comes from shooting a gun in a house?

Ear protection

>>531907

>quietest setup?

Kill jamal faster and properly with less shots

They make some 22 without gunpowder that are bretty quiet

Standard velocity .45ACP out of a carbine is about the quietest un-suppressed round I can think of that's still viable for defense.

As for mitigating damage, best think I can think of is to keep a set of electronic ear pro next to your go-to gun. After that I think it's vitamin D or C you're supposed to take a fuckton of if you suspect hearing damage.

Probably a long barreled 9mm or .22lr gun.

The longer the barrel the more room the gasses have to expand into. This also increases the velocity of the round.

If you get a 30cm barrel 9mm pistol you can probably get some very potent rounds out of it.

related question: what is the absolute quietest suppressor setup one can get?

uh like, maybe a .22 integrated supp air rifle?

>>531940

147gr 9mm is pretty close in those regards.

>>531969

Subsonic ammo in one of those integrally suppressed Ruger Mk1's gets pretty quiet.

>>531969

Subsonic 22 LR is about as quiet as you can get. I shot a bolt action suppressed 22 once and the only thing I could hear was the metal target dinging.

Sure, an airgun may be quieter, but why would you care if you cant hear normal 22 anyway?

Does anyone happen to remember if that Norwegian anon ever managed to find the sweet spot with his hand loaded, sub-sonic 7.62x51 rounds?

>>531969

>what is the absolute quietest suppressor setup one can get?

Maxim 9 with sub-sonic.

>>532092

Fuck off, SilencerCo

>>531969

De Lisle carbine's pretty close. I think working the bolt is louder than the actual gunshot.

>>531907

Dont shoot guns in the house

>>532107

Eh fuck you too.

>>532192

Blasphemy. It's as quiet as a fucking leaf flying in the wind.

>>532188

The enemy won't die of laughter, you know

>>531907

Assuming you want something actually usable for the day Jamal begin axing your door, either;

A) Any gun except shotguns, with a set ear-pro right next to it.

B) Supressed subsonic. For HD you'd want either a medium barrel, the only point of handguns is councealability. So either MP5, 9mm/.45 AR, UMP 45…

Or if you want rifle power, It's actually one of the only scenario I see a SBR AR in .223 being usefull (they suck past 50 meters).

And if you really want fuck you powers, keep a set of earpro next to a VEPR 12 suppressed (yes, they make 12ga supressors), and load it with subsonic slugs.

>>532206

>A) Any gun except shotguns, with a set ear-pro right next to it.

From personal experience, shotguns produce less noise indoors than rifles or pistols.

>>532188

>Miss your shot

>"Hold up I gotta reload; don't bash my head in"

>>531907

>standing at the end of the barrel

>with bad trigger discipline

>image is creepy as fuck on top of that

What are you doing?

>>532267

>being scared of unloaded gun

>fingers clearly outside of trigger guard

>taking a picture of your daughter and your gun

>creepy

Everything you typed is wrong and you should feel bad.

>>532328

>every gun is loaded, even if the bolt and barrel are removed from the receiver and on the other side of the room!

You know it's coming.

>>532328

treat every gun as if it were loaded. don't fucking around or one day you'll be at the hospital with a bullet wound that could've been prevented.

>>532334

That's how you go about things at the range or a store, but if you just checked the rifle and it hasn't left your sight, then there's no way you can get shot. Rounds can't spontaneously materialize inside a gun.

>>532329

Didn't take long.

>>532267

>creepy

Que?

>>532334

Treat every uncleared gun as if it were loaded. If you cleared it, it's as inert as a hammer, stop being retarded.

>>532329

Every gun is as good as loaded unless you personally removed the mag and cleared the chamber, and only for as long as you hold it in your hands. As soon as you put it down it becomes as good as loaded again.

You can't trust yourself on having fully unloaded guns every single time, and you can't trust yourself remembering if you actually did unloaded them every single time. Let alone trust anyone else. One day you may forget there was a round chambered, didn't check if it was, and shoot someone, possibly yourself.

>>532529

>inb4 hurr durr i'm an infallable ubermench, i never forget anything and never fuck things up, ever

>what are you, a normal human being? herp derp

>>532254

>miss your shot

>mace the enemy over the head with the crossbow

>>532371

The same way you miss a human sized target from 10 feet distance using a gun. There's a reason cops mag dump you know, and improving odds of putting down the target is only one of them.

>>532544

Does anyone have the funny video of that arrow that made turkeys heads pop off?

>>532606

>full auto

>cycling with those rounds

Yeah, that's not going to happen. Now I do wonder if you could rig a load that's just barely subsonic yet would reliably cycle something like an American-180. Maybe something in the 1000-1050 fps range.

>>532632

stop being deliberately retarded.

>>532632

Hey did you know that live round presents serious threat by itself, without even being chambered? If you hit it the wrong way it'll go off and explode, and pistol cartridges particularly tend to have strong enough brass to eject the bullet at decent velocity before rupturing.

>>532728

Remington Subsonic is one of those rounds that I referred to that's just barely subsonic, in-fact unless things have changed it will go supersonic out of a 24"+ barrel.

>expecting low velocity rounds to cycle a gun designed for high velocity ammo without any modifications

That's not 'buyer beware' that's buyer is a dumbass who needs to RTFM.

1)Handload or buy low velocity(usually called low recoil) rounds.

2)Ear protection.

3)Use a knife/Xbow.

>>531907

>What's the quietest gun/ammo setup that is reasonable for home defense?

AR15 chambered in 9mm SBR'd and suppressed.

>>532760

>blonde and red patch

If the blonde hair is light enough, you should style your pubes into a mini Canadian flag

>>532752

You sperg fucks are worse than the "reddit spacing" idiots. Just let the three of them that do it do their thing. Hell, theyre probably doing it just to get a rise out of you tools by now.

>>532814

Yeah who cares about reddit spacing.

I mean it's not like it's annoying to read reddit spacing.

A space after each sentence is just sensible.

To be fair you have to have a high IQ to understand reddit spacing.

Yeah people who don't like reddit in general are tools, am I right?

>>533177

no, people who sperg out about "muh reddit spacing" are tools. especially since the only arguments ive seen are "waaaaah, its slightly more inconvenient to read, and takes up slightly more space on my monitor, waaaaaah"

put your big girl panties on and deal with it.

>>533228

Yeah that's what I'm saying.

Have some 8chan gold and an upboat.

It's great to have fellow plebbitors around!

>>531907

Wear electronic earpro

I seriously doubt firing a few rounds from a pistol would make you deaf.

Either way, semi auto 22lr carbine with homemade suppressor, subsonic rounds.