/k/ - Weapons

I recommend Hornady TAP 55 grain.

Remember that no matter which ammo you choose it's the shot placement that will solve the problem.

Zipper drill is imho the best one you can practice. It's like a Mozambique drill on steroids but without its lethal reputation. Shoot center mass and then keep going up the spine. When questioned (after consulting with lawyer of course) blame it on your sissy recoil management.

They talk about starting at the pelvis but at close range try to start at the heart.

>>529155

See I actually looked at that, 55 grain Urban TAP since it didnt seem to overpenetrate and its Hornady

But looking at tests it seems to just come apart and not really penetrate.

I mean with a rifle and with 30 in the magazine and functionally no recoil Im sure even if a round breaks up on a guys rib some fragments are going places and there is still hydrostaic shock though

Anyone have any info on what these rounds do when contacting skin and bone?

>>529157

>But looking at tests it seems to just come apart and not really penetrate.

That's the part that kills them. Most people going to break into your house won't be wearing body armor.

>>529151

For M855, the Korean PMC stuff seems decent, and most of the Hornady loadings with their plastic tip things teem to perform well from what I've seen

Hornady Tap and Speer Gold Dot are the standard for 5.56 defensive ammo. TAP will likely be replaced with Critical Defense for rifles once Hornady releases it (seems the difference is comparable to critical defense and critical duty, Duty/TAP is for police and better at going through thin barriers and better against humans taking cover, while Defense is not and better for not overpenetrating).

That Doctor Gary Roberts data I see point to says Federal's Trophy Bonded Bear Claw is pretty good at man stopping. It looks like Federal's newer (post-dates Dr. Roberts analysis of ammo) Fusion MSR is even better (especially out of 16 inch barrel).

As for zeroing, it's best to do it simultaneously with your reliability testing with the ammo you'll be using defensively. I wouldn't use Wolf Gold in defensive situation, but it's a good practice round (I prefer American Eagle 5.56, which is about the same price and sometimes lower) and you can zero your red dot to it if you're not going to be shooting beyond 50 yards with your defensive ammo anyways (unless you get up on your roof during a riot).

>>529151

Just get whatever is cheapest and practice a lot. It doesn't really matter what kind of holes you put into a target.

What does matter is that you actually put holes into the target, and not the wall next to it.

>>529202

>What does matter is that you actually put holes into the target, and not the wall next to it.

Which is why ammo selection is important. So that in case OP does hit the wall the possibility of someone else than dindu being shot is minimized