/k/ - Weapons

>>520800

>review the legality of so-called bump stocks.

fucking signal boosting faggots.

Contacted the NRA, I know it will do nothing but letting them know that they are fucking up again is marginally better than sitting on 8chan with my dick in my hands.

Anyone have the link to the actual, direct, press release? I'm writing Bud's right now and want to include direct quotes when possible.

>>520804

>>520806

MOBILIZE AND STING

let them know the thing they're planning to do is to outright ban and confiscate bump fire stocks. since the 86 machine gun ban made it illegal to have such things. you will literally get raided and doggo shot over some old hags in DC bitching about things they don't know.

>>520806

from their website: https://home.nra.org/joint-statement/#

>Despite the fact that the Obama administration approved the sale of bump fire stocks on at least two occasions, the National Rifle Association is calling on the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (BATFE) to immediately review whether these devices comply with federal law. The NRA believes that devices designed to allow semi-automatic rifles to function like fully-automatic rifles should be subject to additional regulations.

>>520800

does anyone here use bump stocks? perhaps the NRA is doing some redirection shit, shifting the blame from funs to accessories, though I doubt it.

>>520810

I personally hate bump fire stocks and think they are a dumb gimmick. Doesn't mean I want my RKBA to be infringed upon.

>>520810

>does anyone here use bump stocks?

mall ninja associates use them. used them. basically useless. accuracy with a bump stock is so shit compared to the real thing. but the LV shooter must have modified them with a spring. they need to show us the weapons.

As bad as this is, this is exactly the time to support the NRA- they will cuck you on this, but you need to get on their asses about passing SHARE. If this leaves a bad taste in your mouth, double your donation to GOA.

I'm pretty sure I can fire any semi-auto rifle faster with better accuracy than if I used the same one with a bumpfire stock.

Also Jesus Christ, those comments.

>>520831

>they absolutely destroy accuracy, so they are 100% gimmick.

This is what fuds selling $20000 pieces of metal want you to believe.

So has anyone sent a letter to anyone? Already sent mine to Bud's. Others should too. Any other places to send a letter?

READ THIS YOU FUCKTARDS

ALB17865 S.L.C. 115TH CONGRESS 1ST SESSION

S.

ll To prohibit the possession or transfer of certain firearm accessories, and for other purposes.

IN THE SENATE OF THE UNITED STATES

llllllllll llllllllll

introduced the following bill; which was read twice and referred to the Committee on

llllllllll

A BILL

To prohibit the possession or transfer of certain firearm accessories, and for other purposes.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representa-

1 tives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

2 SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

3 This Act may be cited as the ‘‘Automatic Gunfire

4 Prevention Act’’.

5 SEC. 2. PROHIBITION ON POSSESSION OF CERTAIN FIRE-

6 ARM ACCESSORIES.

7 Chapter 44 of title 18, United States Code, is amend-

8 ed—

9

2

ALB17865 S.L.C.

(1) in section 922, by inserting after subsection

1 (u) the following:

2 ‘‘(v)(1) Except as provided in paragraph (2), on and

3 after the date that is 180 days after the date of enactment

4 of this subsection, it shall be unlawful for any person to

5 import, sell, manufacture, transfer, or possess, in or af-

6 fecting interstate or foreign commerce, a trigger crank,

7 a bump-fire device, or any part, combination of parts,

8 component, device, attachment, or accessory that is de-

9 signed or functions to accelerate the rate of fire of a semi-

10 automatic rifle but not convert the semiautomatic rifle

11 into a machinegun.

12 ‘‘(2) This subsection does not apply with respect to

13 the importation for, manufacture for, sale to, transfer to,

14 or possession by or under the authority of, the United

15 States or any department or agency thereof or a State,

16 or a department, agency, or political subdivision thereof.’’;

17 and

18 (2) in section 924(a)(2), by striking ‘‘, or (o)’’

19 and inserting ‘‘(o), or (v)’’.

20

>>520857

That one is just more Democrat shit that won't go anywhere.

>>520854

Where is this so I can downvote the shit out of it?

>>520857

>a bill banning the firearms equivalent of heelys

For once in my life I'm struggling to give a fuck about a gun topic. On one hand they'll want to take more, on the other hand I hate the boomers that invented the trigger crank and bumpfire stock.

>>520861

His most recent video

>>520861

>That one is just more Democrat shit that won't go anywhere.

except the NRA and is supporting it. more faggots are supporting it out of pure ignorance.

>>520868

>NRA supporting it

The NRA s purely anti-gun and always has been, the NRA either just sits around taking your money and pockets it, or uses your money to actively lobby for gun control. The NRA has never done anything pro-gun in the entirety of it's existence. It was the reason that the NFA got passed, they're also behind most of the carry laws too.

>>520854

I don't mind "smart" compromises myself, and bump stock is indeed "goofy", but if you let them get away with outlawing what is essentially a piece of solid plastic, you're letting them away with anything.

>>520857

>>520857

>7 a bump-fire device, or any part, combination of parts,

>8 component, device, attachment, or accessory that is de-

>9 signed or functions to accelerate the rate of fire of a semi-

>10 automatic rifle but not convert the semiautomatic rifle

>11 into a machinegun.

This is so going to be used by the ATF to shut down nice single stage AR triggers like the geissel

>>520861

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZq4xiyoF8g&lc=z23cvtow5vm1w3mlcacdp43bsge34grvdy5hoqsdnexw03c010c.1507236322234564

There you go.

>>520800

I just called those fucks and told them to give my money and my great grandfathers cash back after calling them some fairly nasty stuff. Traitors get the rope.

>>520877

>youtube

Oh, was hoping something else. Google accounts are more trouble to make than it's worth.

>>520809

all fucking traitors must fucking hang

>>520810

no, never even seen one, that doesn't mean I'll allow the kikes at the NRA to help other kikes make rubberbands or shoestrings illegal.

>>520823

>this is exactly the time to support the NRA

I'm glad you're not a burger

>passing SHARE

it was never going to happen, definitely won't now

>>520854

rip in pieces hick

>>520861

just like the amnesty bill (sponsored by 3 Republican senators)

>NRA are fucking cuckold insurrectionists.

Join GOA

>"the only no-compromise gun lobby in washington"

http://www.gunowners.org/

tell the NRA that you're switching

>>520932

The GOA is too often buddybuddy with the NRA, though.

>>520854

>popular gun icons on the internet are kinda anti gun

waiting for ian and his fat friend's opinion.

>>520932

it hasn't worked before

>>520937

>inb4 gun jesus backs a bumpban

>>520944

Would be kind of hilarious if he was the only one who didn't just so the "PONY TAILED LIBERAL FAGGOT REEEE" guy will continue having no proof.

The left knows that the best way to disarm the right is with salami tactics. The /pol/ militia fantasy of a civil war where the feds come after guns all at once is never going to happen, and assumes leftist activists are a bunch of strategic morons (they aren't, that's why they continually win over the long term of history even if they lose elections). Best way to fight salami tactics is to never, ever give an inch.

There's nothing to negotiate. Nothing should be banned, ever, no matter how many faggots get their feefees hurt. These big government libs always talk about having a "discussion" or "starting a conversation/dialogue" over shit that shouldn't be up for debate.

We could just let them ban the stocks for now.

Then We hit back with the SAGA act which would void the bump stock ban,the CA,NJ,IL,NY and the other state level AWBs.

>>520899

Having a twitter to dump shit on and harvesting commie salt is alright, anything else and you've entered gay territory.

>>520937

>"tee hee, we don't like to get political, sweetie"

>shits on 'muh ebul bigoted right wingers'

>"borders are just arbitrary lines drawn on a map"

Forgotten Borders will probably support it, lad.

>>520949

what are salami tactics? All I know is their dialectic and their soros-style ratchet (escalate, de-escalate, but always gain

>>520966

>I'm a libertarian

left-libertarians and koch-libertarians were a mistake. I remember the day when libertarian just meant you had read L Neil Smith instead of William Luther Pierce.

>>520944

This is the guy who bought an RPK for the sole purpose of fucking around with a slidefire stock trying to emulate a LMG.

Somehow, I don't think so.

>>520961

Didn't Karl all but call out the Jews in one of the Q&As? I'm not going through hours of backlog to find it, but while recounting his encounters with Hollywood, he referred to them as:

>these … ((people))

>>520972

You wanna know how you fix the second point? Have them discover what cultural diversity is first hand dead in the night.

http://www.breitbart.com/video/2017/10/05/nras-lapierre-we-should-see-if-bump-stocks-are-worthy-of-additional-regulation-we-didnt-say-ban-or-confiscate-them/

>NRA pretends to apologize, misses why people are pissed entirely

>>520981

Let's hope that it comes out that it was a FBI fuck up. If it was a lefty like always legislation will be passed that will target conservative groups.

>>520988

Let's hope indeed,

Overpriced and impractical, so I don't give a fuck.

Though in general I'm against losing any ground, as I thought we were finally about to turn that shit around.

But it seems like the NRA is playing the sacrifice a minor accessory to silence the normalfag anti-gun retards.

Like the majority of gun legislation it's completely useless kabuki theater that just makes them feel like they've done "something".

When as usual it just punishes law abiding citizens and criminals continue to have and use whatever the fuck they want.

Same fucking shit.

If they try to tack on anything else other than bump stocks it's time to get the fuck up.

>>521005

>IDGAF about losing more ground for nothing in return lol

>>521007

>>521005

The only reason anyone should be even remotely okay with this is the NRA is scheming to force something off the NFA in replacement for a bump stock ban. Pretty sure that is pie in the sky dreaming though, nearly 100% positive they thing this is a good sacrifice to get people to shut it.

>>521005

>sacrifice a minor accessory to

accomplish absolutely nothing, betray your supporters, and show the opposition how weak you are

this is amnesty-tier dealmaking

http://www.theguncollective.com/nra

Gun Collective/Legal Brief linked to a form to mass contact NRA board.

>>521018

>NRA Membership ID *

>implying I will renew membership ever

would be better to have a mass contact for every organization that advertises for the NRA. Maybe the cunts will learn once every gun store drops them like a bad habit.

molon labe

Does anyone know if they are banned in leaf land? I can't seem to find any legislation stating that they are.

>>521023

Like I said in the OP, Disrespectful Nodding their asses seems like the way to go, but there's plenty of members pissed about this who could use it

>>521024

>leaf caring about American politics AGAIN

M8 just admit you are Americans already. I know your ancestors fought long and bravely to resist the Japanese occupation of Manchuria stay a subject of the British crown, but the British have forsaken both you and themselves and the way you northern faggots do shit like protest our president and now worry about how our gun laws will cause your politicians to ban things is kind of pathetic.

>>521028

I know m8, and I agree with >>521020

But in my mind the way to hit them is to start convincing the people who sponsor them to drop support. The cucks will answer with canned ass replies if they think they will only get letters but they will really think twice about what they want to do if the people who advertise for them thus earning them more members thus earning them more money start telling them to eat shit.

Honestly if we could take that site and give it to NRA members, start telling everyone else of their treason we could start an autismbarrage that will put them back in their place.

>>521029

>just admit you are Americans already

I'm trying but getting citizenship is a lot of work ;;

>>520800 (checked)

That NRA who supports background checks? Call me shocked.

Wanted to finally buy AK bumpski on Brownells and it's already gone. Fucking kikes

>>521046

that is truly awful and I'll probably have to see it on wrsa now

>>521056

Everything in that picture, just ridiculous.

>>520962

>what are salami tactics?

Slice by slice. Basically it converts the final objective (complete disarmament of the citizenry in this case) into a large number of sub-goals. Each of these smaller sub-goals, if carefully managed, timed, presented etc. will look like absolutely nothing in and of itself. The goal being to slowly build up to the larger objective step by step without ever presenting the opposition with a situation where they don't look like they're overreacting if they decide that this is the hill they'll die on.

It allows you to work towards an initially unpopular goal slowly, with phase (n) having been largely forgotten by the normies when you roll out phase (n+1), and each tiny step being too small to warrant mainstream opposition whilst also serving as a precedent for the next step.

Fuck conservatives. They conserve nothing

>>521056

In most states you can buy DD.

>>520809

>cucking out & fighting against your ONLY support base

>slipping in some "dems are the real evil gun nuts" too

peak boomerism going on at the NRA right now

So, are our rights goig to go down the drain now?

>>521081

Not if you help spread the word about this faggotry and encourage others to do the same.

Be sure to contact your representatives as well. One or two people saying "you're not getting my vote if you cuck out" doesn't mean much, but if you manage to get loads of people to complain the cuckservatives start to sweat.

>>520857

Ya'll replies don't realize that about every bill gets heavily revised before ever really being passed.

>>520823

kill yourself

>>520944

in one episode they had a question about devices that make guns into a wannabe full auto, and they pretty much called them a retarded gimmick used by people who don't know what the fuck they're doing. I can't remember what video it was in, but this was brought up by the video going around of a glove designed to make a pistol replicate full auto.

3D printed bump stocks when?

>>521095

Maybe a few hours if I have time.

>>520865

What part of "Give an inch and they'll take a mile" do you not understand?

Banning bump fire means changing the definition of a machine gun. The bill I saw basically outlaws anything that increases the rate of fire. Wearing gloves so your trigger finger does get sore could be on that list. Bump fire stocks may see like a silly toy, but allowing them to ban them is a big bucket of kerosene on the fire.

The GOP and NRA were never pro-gun, they are pro-status quo. It's why you never saw them attempt to remove existing gun control legislation.

Just because they don't write new legislation doesn't make them pro-gun.

if they add this to the ban say goodbye to ever repealing NFA, 86, and AWB 2.1

>>521117

If there ever is another AWB there won't be a sunset clause like last time.

>>521108

I said I'm struggling. I'm already against the NRA and I've handmailed a letter to my senator(who's on the fence about this issue) telling him to go against the proposed ban.

I don't give a shit about bumpfire stocks but it's less of a slippery slope as it is a straight drop that makes me support them.

>>520800

It's why I will never, ever, support the NRA. They're a bunch of cuckolds only after money, I swear.

GOA is supposedly pretty cool, right?

>>520810

Bumpfire stocks are garbage, and tend to completely destroy accuracy. Not used them myself, so my opinion is really only based on what my uncle, who has, tells me.

Semi-auto is fast enough, I say.

But of course, that doesn't make the NRA wanting to ((compromise)) on the lot any less cancer.

>>521127

>Not used them myself

Then go try one before you repeat this fud meme

>>521129

So, you're telling me they're perfectly accurate, and reliable?

>>521131

Yes

>>520810

>>521131

Wrangling automatic fire requires both arms and a bumpfire stock requires your left to push the rifle forward and your right to pull back against the stock. It's incredibly unnatural and, depending on the ammunition used, can actually cause muzzle rise in an AR-15 due to the instability.

It's faux-auto used by mallninjas and dudebros on the weekend with their shitty bushmasters right up until they realize they're burning money on dumping 30 rounds on a piece of paper.

But we have to fight the battle on this hill or it's ALL gone.

Why don't we call him LavalPierre?

Increasingly aggressive techniques were used to try to force the Branch Davidians out (for instance, sleep deprivation of the inhabitants by means of all-night broadcasts of recordings of jet planes, pop music, chanting, and the screams of rabbits being slaughtered).

>>521143

kvetch to everyone on all means of communications.

>>521138

>But we have to fight the battle on this hill or it's ALL gone.

this is what they don't understand. this is right up there on banning pistol grips and "telescoping/folding" stocks". banning scary features.

HAHA AMWRIKKKUCKS BTFO

Once amerifat goes gun free nowhere else will ever try

>>521153

It's going to be a bloody fucking day before they take guns away from people. We're not so easy to give our shit away like Ausfags. Or at least I am not.

>>521157

i'm sure some will fall to the "public safety" bullshit though. you already see that with buy back days where they'll take their funs to exchange for a $20 gift card and call it a win. i know i'm not giving an inch.

>>521164

>If I was to write down the 10 most important things in my life,

>guns wouldn't make the list.

How about being an American? Why, pray tell, IS there an america? Something, something, guns, that's why.

Did anybody here watch the Shogun miniseries? Japanese warlord started berating the washed-up would-be American, saying "there is no excuse for disrespecting your superiors"

He answered "Not if you win." Which elicited quite the laugh, and an agreement from the warlord.

>>521164

Mugger > Slugger

I would bet he never put more than 2 boxes through that rifle

>>520814

Banning bumpstocks is the worst thing they could do. They should WANT shooters to use them. They'll have no idea how they actually work, and fail to accomplish fucking anything if they use them.

>>521164

>less frequently

Notice they have given up on the idea of stopping mass shootings completely. Now they can only be reduced kek

>>521164

>inb4 doxed and robbed

>>520854

I can't believe he does not see the bigger picture. You would have to be retarded to think of shit like this. How much of a cuck is Gun Jesus acting now? I know he supports all that refugee and illegal immigrant bullshit.

>>521168

Do you think he mean a baseball bat or a shotgun?

>>521138

It's not the hill we're fighting, it's the principle.

I always hated this argument. The way it sounds, it's as though there's a specific place that, if gun control never went pass, it'd be perfectly fine to give up everything to it.

That's gay as shit, you ask me.

>>521179

Nah famalam he meant baseball bat like Louisville slugger. He's gonna get his shit enriched by a taconigger since he lives in Phoenix. Besides looking at what I'm assuming is his entire collection, that pistol was his only real gun. I mean don't you know a shotgun can shoot like over a hundred projectiles at a time thats like a thousand deaths coming out of one barrel, no one needs the ability to kill millions of ants at a time.

>>521024

Might as well be with your clipazine limits.

>>521164

>hello fellow gunowners

>>521106

>not enough goyim

>muh loopholes

what fucking loophole god damn.

>>521209

Can't have another evil white supremacist nazi buy his bubba'd up gun, now can we?

>>521164

>in lieu of the recent mass shooting

>instead of the recent mass shooting, I asked the cops to take my guns

>>521220

Did you really expect of pseudointellectual to know what these fancy words actually mean?

OP is a like this monkey, he would give up everything real and permanent for a temporary illusion.

Bump stocks are on the very edge of ATF rules, since ATF banned fucking STRING they're probably going to ban bump stocks once Trump leaves office anyway. So you don't have bump stocks, the idea of this being a thing that you have is an illusion that the Dems will snatch away. This isn't a thing you can lose, because you don't have it.

Why wouldn't you exchange something you don't have for something VITAL that you want?!?!

Why would you hold to an illusion at the expense of everything?!?!

Exchanging bump stocks for Federal universal carry however would allow guns to be carried fucking EVERYWHERE:

1. Lowering crime and undermining gungrabbers arguments.

2. Creating tens of millions of new gun owners.

3. Habituating America to the presence of guns even more.

After #1, #2, and #3 bring an extra 50 million votes to you, the fucking NFA can be done away with completely, thus obviating the need for fucking bump stocks in the first place.

>>521031

It took me 15 years to become a citizen of Canada, you can probably nail America in 10.

This is a cucked source but it's important you know the full story, which even Fox isn't reporting.

https://www.thetrace.org/2017/04/nra-national-concealed-carry-reciprocity-explained/

Cliffnotes of the problem:

>trump wanted national carry ever since he carries his hk 45 everywhere

>could not pass it through senate because mccuck convinced one republican not to

>senate is only ahead of democrats by 2

>so mccain and his boi are blocking fucking everything

Solution:

>trumps new plan drafted help of nra to exchange something stupid for national carry

>by convincing 2 independents or hysterical democrat senators who hate bump stocks

>trump can take a shit on mccunt and his butt buddy

>ram the universal carry through congress

>and bring home a lasting victory as per >>521226

>>521226

>leafpost

we arent getting ==A N Y T H I N G== out of this as it is and "compromise" is what got us here in the first place.

>>521229

See the link >>521228

You aren't informed.

>>521228

Oh and Trump doesn't even have to give the independents/democrats the bump stocks after they vote for universal carry, he just has to be convincing enough for them to push the button.

>>521229

fugg forgot which one that was. meant this one

>>521230

nigger i know what trump wants and i know whats been said. SHARE act got shelved, most all republicians are talkuing about banning bump stocks, but not a one is talking about trading it for cc reciprocity.

kill yourself you bootlicking nra shill

>>521231

shit i didnt mean that one either goddamn it

>>521228

https://archive.is/vVCzs

>>521056

>magazine is an "accessory"

wat the fug

>>521228

>muh checkers

>from an antigun site

>funded by Bloomberg

>written by Dan Friedman

>shared by someone lower than a leaf

EVERY GODDAMN TIME

>>521232

Share is in congress now, it's not shelved retard.

>bootlicking

Oh it's (((you))) blackpillman, did you start this thread as well Obvious Demoralization Shill?

>>521239

I'm sorry only left wing sources are talking about it and right wing sources are trying to keep it quiet.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/04/opinions/share-act-cruelty-opinion-pacelle/index.html

>>521239

Wait a sec

>b9430f

>amnesty tier dealmaking

God fucking damn it you're another shill aren't you.

Every goddamn time is right.

>>521245

Archive you fucking leaf.

>>521245

>hurr durr ur blackpill

Please kill (((yourself)))

>>521246

You're the anti-gun shill, you stupid fucking kike

>>521245

>>521246

>demoralization shills

>blackpill

>this one act in congress is still going to happen! quit worrying

>this other one will never happen! quit worrying

you completely ignored that your source is a kike in a den of kikes while trying to act like /pol/

They pay you too much

>>521253

>>521257

>>521259

Protip: If I'm outlining plans to remove NFA, and you think I'm defending NFA, you're either:

1. Misunderstanding me.

2. Being a cunt.

3. Being defensive because I'm calling you a cunt.

4. COINTELPRO

5. JIDF

6. One of Soros' minions from craigslist

Circle the correct answer please.

>>521252

>g-guys trump is alright despite shitting on our rights

>w-we should support a compromise!

>we're the shills

>>521262

Do you have a response to the question?

>>521264

Because it doesn't matter what our answers are, you'll just disregard them because you're an anti-gun cuck, (((leaf)))

>>521056

Actually you can buy some pretty nifty 37mm underbarrel launchers, it's just that you can really only get flare and firework rounds for them.

>>520800

fuck the NRA, just like the cuck GOP.

Cuck Party

Cuck Gun advocacy

fuck the cucks

>>520854

so the "smart" approach is to give ground inch by inch until you have nothing left

sounds like a stupidass baby boomer

oh, and mr. hardcore himself cucked as well, sucking big NRA money dick.

>don't rest after Trump

>we'll compromise on anything

>>520945

>>520944

I'm sure mr. faggot voice, mr. pony tail wearing liberal faggot, mr. little white dick nerd caricature nasal libshit fag will support all good goyim bans, I'm sure he will

fucking faggot

>>521164

lmao that pic-related is the definition of "faggot."

A shame he didn't request the officer to shoot him in the face with his gun as well.

>>521298

He's what you call, a cucked statist.

>>521164

>quoting Gandhi

>while simultaneously shilling for gun control

Hope this faggot gets robbed

>>521293

>told MrGunsAndGear to do a video on the NRA being cunts

>he actually did it

The absolute madman

>>521298

Reminds me of this classic.

>>520966

The only way something like vegas won't happen again (considering it was apparently the biggest shooting in US history the chance is really slim, Norway still has you beat though) is to ban people.

A ban on bumpstocks won't stop insane people from committing acts of violence.

I seem to have missed what kind of weapons he used (have they released that yet?), also will we ever hear what was written in his suicide note?

>>521370

>apparently the biggest shooting in US history

In recent history, sure. The gubmint, in two separate occasions, gunned down hundreds of Native Americans in reservations at a time but nobody cares about injuns anymore unless it's to combat political projects.

>weapons

Mid to high-end ARs all purchased throughout the year with 20+ 100 round mags. At least one AR-10s in .308.

>suicide note

Not even sure he left one, nobody can piece together a motive so far.

>>521370

Well, it's more like you prevent broads from having children with literal bank robbing psychopaths.

>>521370

The "suicide note" apparently had a bunch of cryptic numbers written on it according to one headline I saw recently that I can't seem to find again.

That could be a complete lie though

>>520966

>pencil necked leftists and libertarians with sportsball profile pictures giving cuck opinions

about as beta as wearing another man's jersey

The NRA honestly loses a lot of respect for this, honestly, calling for the ATF?

That's like niggers calling the KKK.

>>520966

>I am a libertarian and a massive fan of the second amendment, but…

>but

Oh look, another fake libertarian.

SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED

>>521514

>Sportsball

Get with the times gramps, it's called niggerball these days

>>521298

>>521295

>>521293

>>521291

>>521289

Wow.

That's what, $.50 per, at 5 posts, it's $2.5

You can buy yourself bus fare to fag town.

>>520800

>literally their job to defend rights

>politik instead

all they had to do was keep quiet for a month, nice fuggin priorities

>>520827

nice nice. if that's a crack in the throat of 4th case from the left you shouldn't use it.

>>521577

I saw the link posted on /b/ and the thread is long gone by now.

Considering (from what I've seen) nobody else has mentioned the numbers outside of that one article it's probably bullshit anyway.

Sorry about that, I shouldn't have brought it up without having a link handy.

>>521295

You have a real hard on for Ian don't you?

At least you're obnoxious enough right off the bat that I immediately know to filter you.

38 senators support our bill to ban bump stocks. We're making progress, but we need your help. Urge Republican senators to support S.1916!

https://twitter.com/SenFeinstein

The proposed bump-fire ban is worded in a way to actually be very broad, much more broad than the bumpfire ban already on the books in her home state (CA). At a minimum, it almost certainly bans binary triggers and cranks in addition to bump stock, but in theory it's possible to interpret it to ban all good triggers, as a shorter reset and a lighter pull "functions to accelerate the rate of fire." So why change the wording from a law that already exists and works fine, and of which she must certainly be aware? Because it's going for more, and deliberately hiding its intent. Of course the well-rehearsed talking points that everyone's repeating always contain the word "narrow," emphasizing that it's a ban on bump-fire only, and point out that how short the bill is means that it can't possibly be hiding any secrets!

And why does it exempt state and other agencies? Those agencies certainly aren't interested in bump fire stocks. But they might be interested in good triggers.

Bans adjustable gas blocks as well, and certain buffer/spring combos.

https://www.feinstein.senate.gov/public/_cache/files/a/7/a7493ca2-0cd7-416a-8d1f-929d89e71572/0141802AFBB99AC5EA299D5B71B98A52.automatic-gunfire-prevention-act.pdf

>>521577

>>521602

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/las-vegas-gunman-stephen-paddock-note-hotel-room-details-of-bullet-trajectory/

https://lasvegassun.com/news/2017/oct/07/official-note-in-room-aided-shooting-precision/

http://nypost.com/2017/10/07/cops-reveal-what-was-on-the-vegas-madmans-cryptic-note/

It was supposedly ballistic calculations.

>>521632

>(((Feinstein)))

Every time

>>521632

https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/senate-bill/1916/cosponsors

well at least no republicians have cosponsored the bill. yet

>>521632

Is it just me or are there shills around on 8/k/ and /pol/, as well as 4cuck trying to sell this fucking bill. By going with the HiCuck plan of "trading" bump stocks because that makes fucking sense, right.

>>521667

Dunno much about Yank politics, how many does it need to get to the next stage of becoming law?

>>521678

Well I don't get all the bullshit that happens before the fact but the basic process of how a law gets passed in USA is as follows: It has to pass both the House of Representatives (has 435 congressmen according to each state's population, GOP has a stronger majority) and the Senate (100 congressmen, 2 per state, even more cucked than the House) with a majority. If it passes in both, then it goes to the President's desk and he can sign it after which it will become a law. Or he can veto it, which can be overrided if Congress passes it with at least 60%. Or he can pocket veto it, which is complicated bullshit like filibustering.

>>521676

Even Hickok45 said something to that effect.. "I'll pick my battles" or something. It doesn't matter what it is, all forms of gun control need to be fought and all gun freedoms need to be fought for!

>>521688

I think he was referring to hickok with "hicuck".

I have a feeling we'll never be able to discuss his or Ian's videos ever again with a massive sperg attack.

>>521689

*without

>>521689

Shitposting is an inevevitibility of anonymous posting. It's unfortunate though that fine are the days of high energy spergkraut and gooksperg posting and we are left with this genuine autist's inexplicable hatred of Ian.

That and leaf posting.

>>521678

For a bill starting in the senate

>bill effectively must get approval of majority leader to leave committee (Mitch McConnell, both officially Republican but in practice not)

>then 60 senators must agree to cease debate or opposing senators can stand there as long as they can and read the bible till 1:everyone agrees to let the bill go so they can do anything else 2: recess happens or 3: It gets attached to the budget which skils this step

>the bill is voted on and must get 50 out of 100 senators and either the VP of the United States or a 51st senator must vote for it or it fails. In practice almost gets 51+votes because of the above step

>then go to other house/senate

>go through committee again

>get 50%+1 votes with no debate step

>go to president

>if he doesn't sign it it goes back to the legislature and they have to overwrite it with a big majority or it dies

So pretty much no chance of going anywhere this year. Still further along than repealing the NFA.

>>521692

Leaves occasionally make a funny post at least.

This guy is just the unfunny kind of obsessed that winds up being really fucking depressing in the end.

Red Pill , ATF is ILLEGAL. Never created by Congress it operates under color of law. $$$$ the NRA knows this but needs shit tier BATF so NRA has reason to exist. / See BATF Criminal Fraud.

http://www.usa-the-republic.com/revenue/BATF-IRS%20Criminal%20Report.html

>>521710

how fucking crazy would have be to try and take it down?

>>521708

>can someone make a webm

Do it yourself you lazy cunt

>>521753

I don't know how.

>>521751

>(((Experts)))

>Posts king and queen cuckservative

>Allying with outright kikes

>Losing your rights is in your interest, goyim

Always do the opposite of what a Jew says.

Reminder that there is nothing in the currently written bumpstock ban bill that would give national reciprocity.

Reminder than no sitting representative has even proposed such a trade.

Reminder that not even the NRA is explicitly calling for such a trade.

Reminder that kikes will only ever want more gun control, and that any "compromise" will only lead to further "compromises" in the future

Reminder that the current gun control

http://www.breitbart.com/video/2017/10/05/pelosi-certainly-hope-bump-stock-ban-beginning-slippery-slope-gun-control/

>>521751

What is "my side" exactly, spergleaf?

Literally nowhere have I said anything about supporting any sort of ban.

I was pointing out how someone clearly has a gigantic fucking hate boner for Ian (and more recently hickok) and is desperately trying to change opinions regarding them and it's fucking obnoxious.

Yeah (((Trump))) (((Hickok))) they're at the top of the Illuminati pyramid you fucking moron.

>Posts king and queen cuckservative

Did you fucking read the post? This isnt a picture book retard, read.

MCCUNT AND GAYRAM ARE THE PEOPLE YOU ARE OBEYING. THEY ARE BLOCKING THE SILENCER BILL AND NFA ABOLISHMENT!

Here's the thing, you don't have to actually say you support a ban, you don't even have to consciously be aware of it, because you're a useful fucking idiot. The bad guys are using this bump stock thing to control an embarrassingly large portion of the firearms community, mainly keeping a plug on the NFA which even the fucking NRA wants. Do you understand? The only way we're making any progress is if we literally trick about five senators (either fucking party) and the largest gun lobbying group into acting against the interests of their largest donors (the firearms producers) and tricking these people isn't going to be a straightforward push by the fucking firearms community, because they don't give a shit what you think.

>>521790

Are you drunk?

>>521795

No, I'm just a politician.

>>521795

Worse, he's a leaf.

I knew it was a faggot syrup sucker sperging about hickok, that serb proxy can't hide your shitty posting habits.

>>521797

Are you that homosexual genetic dead end from awhile back?

Tim of Military Arms Channel posted this on arfcuck

>"Everyone,

>Thank you for the outpouring of support. I'm sorry it's taken me this long to respond, I've been traveling and I've been in non-stop meetings with various groups for days. I'm just starting to get my head above water.

>The most important thing we can do right now is call and write our Congressmen and Senators. There are gun laws in the works right now that go far beyond banning bumpfire stocks. It's not primetime news yet because the bills are currently being drafted. Know this; you CAN NOT trust Republicans right now. They're all running scared and many previously pro-gun Republicans are working with Democrats to draft various anti-gun legislation. We won't know what's in the bills until they're formally introduced. Just know that our faith in Republican leadership is misplaced right now and as Wayne alluded to on Face the Nation on Sunday, Trump isn't talking to the NRA.

>Start blowing up phones. Start bombarding inboxes. Get ready to plan rallies at state capitols like we did post Sandy Hook if things progress. I'm hoping we can stop these bills before they even get introduced. I hope to have more information soon that I will share publicly regarding who is doing what. I will identify any Republican turncoats I discover and can prove are working against our 2nd Amendment rights.

>Thank you again everyone. Your support means the world to me and I greatly appreciate being among friends and fellow Patriots here."

buckle up

>>521854

Already have. Reminded Rubio to see what God does to oathbreakers. Told my congressman's district director (have his email) the only trade for bumpfire should be registry reopening.

a cute/interesting response to a ban possibility

>>521854

The Republicans are beyond pathetic at this point, were they this fucking bad before Obama? I was a bit to young then to be as checked in as I am now. Fucking can't pass a simple fucking tax plan or Ocare repeal which were their talking points for fucking ever. Repealing gun control was suppose to be icing on the cake, instead we are seeing them fold like white rice paper.

Very glad I have never folded on voted for any major party fuckers.

>>521909

>were they this fucking bad before Obama?

Yes, but no one was calling them out, so they were comfortably cucked. Since Trump rattled them, they're cucking harder, which of course means they will die faster. They're remarkably stupid.

>>521854

>the only big gun channel that is actually genuine about their belief in the second amendment is MAC

This has been the only surprising thing to me out of this whole shitshow and almost makes me wonder if he isn't a shill at all but actually likes the piece of shit known as the Tavor.

>>521910

Trump ain't gonna do shit either, he is getting ready to cut deals with democrats on healthcare and I would say its 50/50 that he goes with gun control if thrown in front of them.

>>521913

MrGunsnGear is pretty pissed at the NRA too, but he really doesn't have anywhere near the viewership of MAC

Oh, someone with a Facebook want to ask Colion Noir (he seems to actually reply to stuff) what the hell LaPirrer is doing in

>>521708

the video here? He seems pretty intent on defending that the position isn't calling for a ban even though LaPierre outright says they are in that same video.

>>521914

22 Plinkster posted

>NRA, really?

The Gun Collective posted

>If you want to let the NRA Board Members know how you feel… you can do that right here: http://www.theguncollective.com/nra

Hickok is the only one I've seen defend this.

>>521913

>but actually likes the piece of shit known as the Tavor.

I like my Tavor. It is not amazing and I think it is overpriced but I still like it.

>>521925

Forgot I came to post this. Anyone else state starting this shit now?

http://orlando-rising.com/linda-stewart-bill-ban-bump-stock-sales-florida/

>>521913

he does. an earnest guy with sometimes shit opinions. i don't think IWI paid him under the table for shillin, they gave him a free trip for being a goodgoy, he's too much of a boy scout to see the gears turning.

i don't like seeing our side eat our own, unless it's egregious faggots like Yankee Marshal. steadfast values, not alinskyian autism. elsewise we turn in to a miserable crab bucket like the leftists.

>>522054

It's doomed to happen essentially, you have the purists and the people okay with the status quo. Also many people probably see the NRA as our only hope in the long run, so won't be vocal over this.

>>521164

even his gun looks like it has fucking dildos hanging off it

>>522054

>they gave him a free trip for being a goodgoy

please explain, did he get a trip to israel or something? Because whatever jewjitsu they use, whether brainwashing or buying people off, always seems to mean that anyone getting a trip to israel turns into to new best buds with the kikes.

>>522116

He was already "MUH HEBREW HAMMER" and then they gave him a tour of the IWI factory which only increased his fetish for gassing himself in the face

>>521169

Gunilliterate Eurofag here.

So how do they work? Sofar all I got that they are shit for accuracy.

But waht do you expect, people who want to prohibit the production of "big clips" because once they are all fired "shooter" wont be able to use them anymore and have to gowith the "small 10 bullet clips"

>>521164

What an faggot, atleast sell them.

But now he wont have to wory about guns after the cops type their report he will be considert mentally unfit and wont be able to buy any guns.

>>521520

Oh ther can be a but as in "but I am pissed that there is no National carry"

Still he is an idiot, if bumstocks are so bad you dont need a ban because nobdy uses them anyway.

>>522117

it works by having the gun free float in a plastic stock/grip assembly, letting you pull the trigger into your finger while maintaing a stready grip on the gun with your trigger hand.

>>522116

Yeah, he constantly gets free holidays to Israel and Turkey from firearms manufacturers

>>522121

Basically it allows the gun to move back and forth in the stock enough where the trigger is reset by the time it goes back into position allowing for pseudo automatic fire.

>>522121

1 easy to think of this way, simply hook your thumb in belt loop of pnts on your trigger hand, other hand goes on front grip of rifle in hip fire position, now you put finger infront of trigger and pull gun forward using other hand, kick from bullet firing pushes gun backward, your other hand is still pulling forward and quickly pulls gun into trigger finger again, making for pretend full auto that is not near as fast as an actual full auto.

2 and 3.. im not even gonna bother with, to tired lol

>>522132

it's almost like their entire existence is based around proving that if you invent something, you cannot ever uninvent it, and any attempt to criminalize it will just make it easier for people to create a loophole alternative.

https://curbelo.house.gov/uploadedfiles/finalbumpstockban.pdf

Here's the law the Jews are pushing. Ready for five years in prison for using your finger?

>>521291

Thank you for the advice, FBIfriend.

>>522146

Fucking great. That expands to involve cranks and can easily be constrewn to refer to comfortable/easier trigger pull modifications on semiautomatics.

>>522146

won't go anywhere. Curbelo basically caucuses with the dems. No one will touch the garbage he writes.

I would be more concerned about a push for more restrictions on a state level

Would it be possible to poison the bill by adding a requirement to open the registry forever and ever?

Wait a fuck moment. Did feinstein vote for the Hughes amendment? If Fostech is being sued, then perhaps we could sue the bitch for causing slide fire stocks to coming into existence.

>>521918

Quick checks shows IV8888, Taofledermaus and Hank Strange (Strangely enough The Yankee Marshall also seems to be going by thumbnail and title I saw in the related videos sidebar "new gun ban introduced (Thanks NRA)") are also on the list pissed.

The NRA has spent the last two years trying to get everyone on Youtube to shill for them and they flushed it all away overnight.

NRA issues non-apology that continues support of ATF creating legislation it has no power to.

https://archive.is/XhQgA

KEEP UP THE BARRAGE!

>>521667

The House has a bill that was introduced by a Republican, is even more vague and is being supported by other Republicans.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/3999/cosponsors

>>522204

Already has 12 Republican co-sponsors.