/k/ - Weapons

Nothing.

>>519566

Nothing, it's an internal issue. NATO never intervened in Northern Ireland or in French Algeria did it?

>>519572

In truth the US alphabet agencies will back the incoming Spanish suppression of the Catalan lefties, since Rota Naval Air Station is a strategic base (biggest US base in the Mediterranean, even if the HQ is in Italy, secondary HQ is there with the actual infrastructures for carriers, LHDs and whatnot are. Italy is actually too close from Russia for comfort) any real unrest might jeopardize.

>>519566

https://archive.is/KB5w8

The flames may grow.

LOL

On a /k/ related note if Catalonia doesn't join NATO and decides to buddy up with Putin that might be an issue.

>>519572

>We need more violence in all of these conflicts. This is boring.

>flag

Hey Schultz whatcha doin'

Aren't they commies who will probably import more migrants if they're allowed.

Isn't Catalonia one of the richest region in the country, and losing it meaning that Spain becomes even poorer?

It's secede you fucks.

I don't normally give a shit about misspellings, but succeed and secede are pronounced differently enough that you look like a huge fucking dumbass when you mix them up.

US bombs every single hospital and claims it didn't intervene. UN Balkanizes the entire region and gives Islamic niggers half of Spain.

>>519601

on the other hand all socialists in the country will be gone, so spain might actually be better off economically without these parasites

>>519609

>Ruining Europe once more, of course!

on what level?

HRE

Lutherianism

WWII

Merkel

I need to know!

>>519613

>It's secede you fucks.

Sorry texas anon. We aren't as used to the word as you guys. Has the south risen again yet?

>>519625

I have literally never been to Texas.

As a bong you should be even more disturbed than me by the flagrant, retarded misuse of your language btw

sage and last response because I'm not going to derail this into grammar bitching

Nothing. If Catalonia votes for independence it’ll become independent. If Spain get’s pissed then Spain and everyone, but a few isolated nations that need trade (Cuba, North Korea, etc) will stop trading with Catalonia, but Spain won’t send in there military. Spain’s debt to GDP ratio is very high and they can’t afford a war. Also Remember a large chunk of Catalonia is in the Pyrene mountains so if there was a war it would be a guerrilla war with high Spanish casualties.

>>519613

Well, seceding from ZOG is a form of succeeding. But of course, if it starts to pick up any traction, the Jews will ensure they are leading the opposition as always.

>>519575

>Rota isn't in Catalonia though.

I know but it doesn't matter, nobody ever wants massive instability in a country you have a strategic interest.

The crisis could definitively lead the government to collapse, maybe even to leftists could take over (be it Podemos + Socialists winning a special election, or simply by a coup/revolution it's not like shit like that hasn't happened before) and one of the first thing always on their agenda is US bases and "imperialism".

You know when and where crisis starts but you can't calculate the outcome and recently the US hasn't been lucky with it's dice rolls, Egypt that is now back on Russia side (which wasn't the case since the early 70's), despite the coup being launched against a "neutral" US leaning guy, to put a US/KSA ally instead.

Turkey coup made Erdogan do a 180° too. Iran is an older example, etc…

I mean the US basically lost the entire middle east with the spring revolutions… I don't think they're gonna leave ANYTHING to chance concerning their primary Mediterranean base.

So repression and MSM blackout is to me the most likely scenario.

>>519622

Starting a war with Germany.

how's ur empire doin btw

>>519662

Expensive? They're already built, it's the upkeep that's expensive! Start dropping nukes and you'll be saving so much money you'll think the bombs are free!

>>519566

>Catalonia

Europe has bigger issues with muslims rather than a bunch of angry spaniards that can't even speak REAL spanish.

>>519704

naw it's actually France for starting Socialism as a meme

>>519708

Commonwealth is quite fine

>>519566

>succeed

Secede

Lets hope they actually do secede along with Kurdistan and it causes a chain reaction which spreads across the globe. Note that Catalonians and the Kurds are both disgusting lefties so hopefully their societies crumble, but only after they awaken all the other secessionist movements

>>519752

What is OP meant succeed in seceding? Every think of that huh?

>>519753

Well he should have specified.

Now he just looks like an illiterate boy molester.

>>519739

>centrist

You faggots are just low self-esteem, low self-confidance fucks that just want to laugh at everyone instead of actually try and solve problems or get shit done. Also is it just me or is the whole political diagram fucked as liberalism has a very varied definition, has almost never been used as pure vanilla liberalism or succesfully and could easily be solved by an unchangeble bill of rights with authority of a higher power. In fact liberalism in general seems fucked as an ideology, could easily be replaced by a contract like a bill of rights with a few being constantly debated in certain states and is only rarely useful in small doses.

>>519808

I was joking, you sperg.

https://wimminz.wordpress.com/2017/09/29/the-spanish-fly-in-the-ointment/

>in catalunya speaking castellano makes you a second class citizen to the catalan speaker, only by a fraction, but the fraction was there.. knew an english girl who grew up there from a toddler, spoke catalan like a native, got to the front of every queue in every business on the industrial estates, but it was done with smiles, as it was when the iberia pilots spoke catalan to the control tower to get bumped ahead in the holding pattern.

spain is not even a real country, what the fuck.

>>519808

Amazing leafpost, you fucking retard.

>>519857

we are approaching peak leafpost.

>Catalonia will secede without a single shot fired

/pol/ and /k/ BTFO'd.

>>519851

This isn't even half of it, they went as far as having undercover cops to check bars and business in Barcelona to see if they conducted business in Catalan or in Spanish.

Greet customer in Spanish = fine, loose license if it happens several times.

Which is the kind of insanity the separatists wants.

It's insane because Barcelona, like any other big European city is half made up of people not from the area, (niggers, arabs, south-americans, french, etc… but mostly spaniards from other regions and that's without the X hundreds of thousands of German/Netherlands/UK tourists) meaning that the day to day spoken language is by necessity Spanish (or English) since half the population of the city simply doesn't speak the obscure dialect taught only to a few millions locals since fairly recently (it was outlawed to teach dialects in Spain).

One of the most amazing thing is they still participate in student exchange and whatnot, so when you sign up to do a semester in Spain because you've learned Spanish (which is what second or third language spoken on the planet? Fourth if including Mandarin?) and you end up in Barcelona: have fun repeating a year!

>>519866

Mandarin always tops the lists. By total speakers spanish is on 4th, and by native speakers is on 2nd.

>>519888

I dont think it will be in ~20 years.

Sage for off topic

I really want a second Spanish republic to come out so that the Basques and Catalan will secede and cause a new wave of warring states. May it wake up those in Southern Burgerland

>>519902

The Cuban flag is way older than the communist regime in Cuba. IIRC it is based off of the original early 1900s Cuban independence though.

>>519904

>Literally changes nothing

>>519905

Changes quite a lot considering the flag was adopted in 1902, the Catalan flag was created in the 1920s and Cuba had an almost European quality of life before socialism did what socialism does in 1959. Just because a bastard Cuban is your leader does not mean you need to be historically incorrect.

The most /k/ question that hasn't been asked is even if Catalonia COULD fight in a civil war if pushed. Do they have military bases in their territory that would fight for them? How well armed are the police? Is there an unusually high percentage of gun ownership there?

Catalonia fuckung happening broskis

Coppers on the ground beating the snot out of people if twatter is to be believed

Nothing will happen as usual.

Just the usual opium for the masses.

>>519961

France is the less likely of those. France was always a vertical state to begin with (unified with a strong central government and with very little local power, with delegates of the King), local dialects have been crushed by nation wide mandatory school system since way before WWI meaning only oddballs actually speak them (the EU tried to push them in school and whatnot, but due to the same shitty anti-elitist education system they promote you will never hear a conversation in them).

South Catalans are gonna definitely try to annex the Northern part (they regularly hold rallies) but it's extremely dubious they would succeed when they they never make even 2% in local elections (and any political justification would be retarded, since franks nobles, vassal of the french king are the founders Catalonia… In fact last time there was a major revolt of Catalonia VS the Spanish kingdom, before the civil war that had more factors, it should have ended with France annexing the whole thing. Instead France only took the Northern part that was easily defensible and left the rebels hang to dry).

Corsica has a large autonomy and has waaaayyy more to loose than win by actually secede (like all french islands throughout the world, one day reality kicks in and you realize that all the boats with merchandise coming to you are actually subsided by someone else taxes and the only reason you aren't Haiti) and has even refused more autonomy fairly recently.

Alsatians have a real regional party and still have their language, but half their identity is being proud to belong to France… Wherboos always think Alsatians want to belong with Germany when it's really the opposite, kinda of like France always tried to get Saar but the people there didn't want it.

The rest doesn't even exist as political/nationalist entities.

>>519866

Sounds a little like Quebec, except even more ridiculous since at least French has places it's relevant.

>>519973

It's like if Quebec was actually headed by Quebecois nationalists and less justified than Quebec (Quebec was a different colony with different rules and populations until fairly recently, Catalonia has always been a core part of the Spanish crown, it's like Cornwall wanting to secede from the UK…).

>>519972

> Wherboos always think Alsatians want to belong with Germany when it's really the opposite,…

I doubt that, because usually German Nationalism is less about winning the hearts and minds of people, but about owning places with sacred character that are part of the Heimat and the Reich and prevent it from defilement by other cultures.

For example if the Alsatians like being part of Germany or not is not important, but to control the Rhine of both sides would have importance because the Rhine was like the Ganges river for Germany in the eyes of the German romantic movement from which German Nationalism evolved.

>>519905

A fucking leaf

>>519961

Still better then Merkalriech that is the EU.

>>519601

>https://mises.org/blog/spanish-libertarians-view-catalonian-independence

>Catalonia currently imposes 17 different taxes, and has one of the communities with the highest income taxes in the country

>In 2012, something called Liquidity Fund for Autonomies was created to give communities access to grants and debt at almost 0% interest

>Around 33% of this money has gone to Catalonia, even when they claim to be one of the richest, most innovative, civilised, and cosmopolitan regions of Spain

At least Commiefornia still pays more into the federal government than they get out for the time being. Let the commies fuck of and starve themselves, the rest of Spain is better off without them.

>>519625

I'm just glad you're not calling us all yanks this time.

>>519962

>Kaliningrad

>Not Königsberg

Shit map, famiglia.

>>520032

Yeah but it's only because France was holding the other side (or even both) prior to German unity and a part of German Nationalism… which is quite a different blend from Alsatian Nationalism.

Alsatians remember they were sold TWICE by the HRE, that the french national anthem is literally the "War Song for the Army of the Rhine" which was the Alsatian army, because Alsatian troops were largely the shock troops of the Revolution.

The two major military events of the early days Revolution is the Prussian-Austrian/Hessians/French royalist defeat at Valmy (French led by Kellerman, Alsatian) for foreign threats and the suppression of the Vendéans royalists (French led by Kleber and Westermann both Alsatian) for internal threats.

These are the two really iconic founding events that ensure the Revolution wasn't squashed… both were brought by Alsatians.

And then said Army of the Rhine proceeded to unite the Rhine sides… for the now free union of men that was France by freeing the old Middle/West Francia from the corrupt nobles of the HRE and spreading democracy (at the bayonet point).

This had much more of an impact on Alsatians than the ulterior Pan-Germanism largely backed by Prussia, even if the theme is common there is a major difference in that the Prussians and HRE (and latter Germany) were oppressors. And each time Germany got them (by force) it was largely seen as illegitimate and fueled the existing resentment.

That's the reason why France was willing to go to war with Germany for Alsace in WWI: while having a different national identity it's considered a core province by both French at large and Alsatians themselves.

>>520066

>not Królewiec

Remove yourself from genepool just like germans removed prussians

EU has the right to take control of it's vassal-state's military and prevent them from seceding.

>>520081

Careful polack, I want my castle back.

>>520292

This teaches me that feudalism is really a wacky thing, my dear froggie.

So denominating the Holy Roman Empire as 'germanic' is also wrong, since that empire was born from a rump state from the previous Carolingian empire (leaded by franks, indeed)

>>520294

The joke about the Holy Roman Empire is that it wasn't any of those things.

It's not wrong to call it "germanic" if you remember that includes franks as germanic.

>>520292

Franks spoke a Germanic language and were a Germanic tribe.

>>520303

Yes and Franks colonized most of France (litt. the kingdom of the franks) and part of Swabia while having always been in Lotharingia, Frankonia.

So France was perfectly justified in trying to control the Rhine since it's the birthplace of it's people, way more than it ever was Prussian, Bavarian, Thuringian, Saxons, etc…

Or are you people deluded enough to pretend that french aren't descendants of the franks because the name changed???

Because there are some areas where it's true but it's a handful compared to the vast majority…

>>520307

Frenchies are justified in dying, and that's all you're justified in doing.

Fuck you, fuck your faggot country, fuck your faggot culture. The world would be better if Hitler and the Germans had annexed your shithole faggot country and exterminated your men and used your women as breeding stock, like you faggots deserve.

>>519617

>>519601

>on the other hand all socialists in the country will be gone,

Haha, you have no clue…

>>519609

>>519590

>Ruining Europe once more, of course!

Oh vey, why are that jerman so beastly?

>>519622

>>519609

>Ruining Europe once more, of course!

>on what level?

>HRE and Lutherianism

If not for that Huns there would be no prots and without HRE we would have had a diverse multicultural societiey free of hate with our muslime friends.

>WWII

Those inconsiderable Germans again.

>Merkel

How nasty of here to open Germany‘s mediterranean border.

>>519704

>>519622

>Now now Anglo, we know that the City of London is the centre of all jewry in Europe.

How antisemantic of you to blame her majesty merchants of the city of London.

>>519866

>>519851

>it was outlawed to teach dialects in Spain

Total bull shit claims of the seperatists, as if England would teach Gaelic, the USA Spanish or France Italian or German.

>>519904

>>519902

>The Cuban flag is way older than the communist regime in Cuba. IIRC it is based off of the original early 1900s Cuban independence though.

Cuban independence is same fake “nationalist” revolution as Catalonia, with the same people in the background, just watch the international press which is united in shilling for Catalan secession since years. It serves nothing but to weaken Spain and put the “liberated territory” under foreign control.

>>519961

>Scientists have determined what Europe will look like in 20 years,

> “Scientists”

>Anglo kike onanism

Totaly retarded, far from any realistic and existing politics

>>519972

>France is the less likely of those.

> since franks nobles, vassal of the french king are the founders Catalonia…

The french jewish republic are another source pushing for the disolving of Spain, their wet dream since 500 years.

No, the duchy of Barcelona was not founded by the French, but the Franks, who were your Germanic overlords, even if the “Spanish Mark” didn’t last long succumbing to the Mohammedan invaders, liberated in the Reconquista.

French always tried to grab Barcelona, allied themselves with the Turk to attack Spain, while Spain, Germany and Italy fought off the Turkish invaders.

>local dialects have been crushed

Of course, if the French would have succeed, there would be no “Catalan people”, brutal supressors they are.

>Alsatians have a real regional party and still have their language, but half their identity is being proud to belong to France… Wherboos always think Alsatians want to belong with Germany when it's really the opposite, kinda of like France always tried to get Saar but the people there didn't want it.

They were never asked and given a chance to vote. The French know why, because they never would agreed to become part of France. The French brag about the suppression of German culture in Elsass and Lothringen, as the US diplomatic cables did show. France deported the German population before the second world war into the south west, that much trust did they have. After the war the continued the ethnical cleansing deportation and outright murder of Germans, suppression of German language and culture. Using German, continuing the local German culture could land you in prison or on a deportation list. Further to destroy the German character of Elsass and Lothringen the French populated the area with masses of Arab settlers.

>>520292

>"German" wasn't a thing until Prussians invented it

Total bull shit claim.

As early as the 4th century, þiudisko is referenced. Later “diutisc“ has become the term for the continental west european germanic dialects and in the 8th century, the pope mentioned the first time the German language. That was long before there was a “France”. https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serments_de_Strasbourg

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodiscus

A dictionary of German was already compiled in the 10th century.

 >>520307

>>520303

>So France was perfectly justified in trying to control the Rhine since it's the birthplace of it's people, way more than it ever was Prussian, Bavarian, Thuringian, Saxons, etc…

Utter retardism, in the French revolution as a justification for the republic, the republican revolutionaries declared the French nobility as of foreign German origin, who suppressed the Galo-Romanic population.

Before the French revolution Elsass/ Lothringen/the southern parts of the Lowlands were not “France” but fiefdoms of Germany, ruled in personal union by the French king. Same in southern France, which was actually the Spanish kingdom of Navara with seat in Pamplona. A remnant of this is Andorra were the head of France is in personal union “head of state” simultaneous with the bishop of Urgell in Spain.

>>519915

That anon said their flag was inspired by communist Cuba though, not just commies in general.

Well considering the Catalonia government has essentially be removed by force how long till someone decides to start the fire?

>>519753

>is

if

>Every

Ever

>>519587

What anime is this it looks cute.

>>526349

fugg lmoa ive been found out !!!

oy gebald ibs a holocosd :DDDDDDD

>>526384

Do you think the holocaust happened.

>>526384

Oh gee It's Yidsrael

The Galil and Deagle are shit

>>519961

>UK looks like a dark ages britain geography map.

>>519972

Actually, it is not the least likely. Not the likeliest, but not the least likely.

>The rest doesn't even exist as political/nationalist entities.

Like most of the map. It's a shit map. It's-a-joke-map ayy.

>France was always a vertical state to begin with (unified with a strong central government and with very little local power, with delegates of the King)

Wrong. France become a feudal internal struggling mess with many independent duchies (and the like) during the middle/high medieval ages. They only became more centralized when absolutism became to catch on, when the French kings found a way to curb the nobles, and then it centralized further into hell and you got the French revolution which is where the death of Europe began.

>local dialects have been crushed by nation wide mandatory school system since way before WWI

<"At the time of the French revolution in 1789 it is estimated that only half of the population of France could speak any French, and as late as 1871 only a quarter spoke French as their native language."

<"The regional languages of France are sometimes called patois, but this term (roughly meaning "dialect") is often considered derogatory. Patois is used to refer to supposedly purely oral languages, but this does not, for instance, take into account that Occitan was already being written at a time when French was not and its literature has continued to thrive, with a Nobel Prize for Frédéric Mistral in 1904."

Just because it happened doesn't mean it is a good thing.

>>519961

this is a jewpig's and famterican's wet dream

>>519972

says the retarded jew-dick sucking surrender monkey

>>520081

dont you have some jewdick to suck, slavroach?

>>526363

youre the biggest turbo-virgin on 8chan right now

>>519972

>The rest doesn't even exist as political/nationalist entities.

That's not true at all, the székely people do want their autonomy, and I can see Transilvanian Romanians trying to make their own state of Bucharest manages to crash the economy with no survivors. I can also see a Ruthen mini-state if Ukraine fucks up something major. As for changing our current borders, if we had a decade of compentent governance, then our economic life would be good enough that it's a rational choice for the Hungarians living on the other side. The only unlikely part is Voivodina, I can only see that happening if Serbia gets into a war with Albania and some strange things happen there.

>>526460

How do you make a sauerkraut?

mention the war

NATO is no longer a useful organization, I don't see the point of it existing. Doesn't counter Russia, completely ignores China, doesn't defend members against nation-state attacks, doesn't protect from terrorism - in fact seems to encourage it, doesn't improve sharing of technology - in fact seems to destroy member nations technological bases… what's the fucking point?

It doesn't even keep Americas weird empire together.

>>520062

We'll call you dixies when you deserve it.

>>526485

NATO would be fine if it was just cut down into a handful of fully committed nations in a defensive alliance rather than being constantly expanded and encouraging further (and arguably somewhat justified) Russian paranoia.

>>519961

>made by bavarian, ukrop-pole and catalonian

top kek

>>520353

Woah there Shakespeare

>>519566

>There are 12 NATO countries

>Catalonia splits from Spain

>there are 13 NATO countries

>>526454

>>526453

>>526455

>>526456

Is there any way for regional flags to be registered by the system because I'd like to see if a German poster is Bavarian or not.

>>526538

There used to be a halfchan plugin that let you pick a regional flag but you could only see it if you also had that plugin. You could probably have that but I don't know if you can translate IPs to regional flags reliably (for example mine says London and I'm not a paki).

>>526464

I obviously meant in France, the biggest minority in France that would secession would be the arabs…

The FN n°2 which is elected in the Orientals Pyrenees (""""North Catalonia""") outraged the handful of catalanist by saying that teaching regional languages in school locally under some pretense of "there are people speaking it" is retarded and unfair because there are far more households there that speak Arabic at home rather than Catalan…

And they were outraged because it's completely true.

Hell all the area around the Rhone delta all the way to Nice is already nicknamed "Islamic Republic of Frankistan"…

>>526645

Sorry, I thought you were dismissing all of the map, as 90% of it is indeed a joke.

>Hell all the area around the Rhone delta all the way to Nice is already nicknamed "Islamic Republic of Frankistan"…

Are the non-goatfucker locals content with the situation, or are the "extremist" elements is more prominent there?

>>526645

>I obviously meant in France, the biggest minority in France that would secession would be the arabs…

>minority

>>526655

this map is pure shit tbh fam. at least they should use different colors

>>520062

Catalonia is the only productive region of Spain. Spain is a fucking leech on the EU and sucks Catalonia dry like the parasites they are. What's more is that for a long time they tried erasing Catalan culture. Fuck off, faggot. This is about freedom.

>>526687

Those are some hot opinions you got there buddy.

>>526655

>Corsica

>Le Pen

Isn't Corsica nigger island or some shit?

>>526788

well, obviously thats why they want to stop being european madagascar

>>526843

I've only seen the flag with no context, clears up a lot.

>>520032

man that's intense

i was pondering a few days ago what is so different about German nationalism from Anglo that makes Germany so unsuitable to be a global leader.

Kind of makes sense that it is an oppositional/defiant form of nationalism rather than a constructive/supportive form.

I guess all continental European nations have that because they are under continual foreign pressure, whereas Anglos can sit aloof on their island with little fear of foreign interference.

>>528237

>i was pondering a few days ago what is so different about German nationalism from Anglo

That it's actual nationalism and not trying to gain a sense of smugness by raping colonies out of their resources in behalf of (((cosmopolitan merchants))).