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There is more than one way to become a superpower, they have gone the huge population route.

>>518016

I'm willing to bet that the IRS alone has enugh ammo to kill a quarter of the population.

>>518002

barely concealed /intl/ india posting

saged and reported

>>518016

Sure there is. Look at the way they all bunch up. Can't go serpentine in a crowd like that.

What has China made beyond cheap guns and a crappy rushed bullpup?

>>518035

They mashed an AK, SKS and SVD into something that isn't half bad.

>>518036

i thought that was rite of passage for every post commie nation

>>518030

Oh, of course their economy is fucked. So is burger and chink

>>518039

I think the Romanians did a RPD mashed with an SVD. Everyone else including you just made an AK with local touches.

>>518040

it just werks

it continues to work with ak 107

>>518039

Majority of Burgers and dog meats don't shit in the streets

>>518049

not yet at least

Also street shitting is cultural not economical problem.

>>518002

>still on-track to becoming the world's dominant superpower by 2030

Who the fuck say that???

India economic development is equal to 0. China is the only country benefiting from globalization.

To actually compare the economic development you don't take raw numbers like a journalist, you take the gross domestic product per capita at nominal values of a country, you compare it with the average gross domestic product per capita at nominal values for developed countries for a given year.

Then you do that for each year you want to measure the evolution, which is the true measure of economical development.

Then if you want to be a true madman you convert it using current $PPP instead of regular $…

Do it and you will quickly realize… the third world isn't actually developing, India especially.

Only China is.

I can't find it and can't make it quickly but basically it's that graph

https://www.google.com/publicdata/explore?ds=d5bncppjof8f9_&hl=en&dl=en#!ctype=l&strail=false&bcs=d&nselm=h&met_y=ny_gdp_pcap_pp_kd&scale_y=lin&ind_y=false&rdim=region&idim=country:CHN:IND:FRA:DEU:GBR:USA:MEX:BRA&ifdim=region&hl=en_US&dl=en&ind=false

except you take the developed country as a basis to compare.

See, what most people ignore is that developed country keep developing.

If you have a guy that make $10,000 while you make $10 and 10 years later you make $1,000 (9,9% growth per year) and he makes $11,000 (1% growth per year)… you're not catching up, you lost ground a little.

That's the ongoing phenomenon for most of the poor country, they make a shitload more than before… that doesn't mean they're catching up.

>>518190

dont worry, technology will stop advencing when the crash happens. So anywhere from 2 weeks from now. Buy gold and silver, i am not even memeing. Best case scenario you will not lose anything and worst case you will be millioner (which will let you buy 1 whole loaf of bread at most).

>>518199

>What's the point of gold during a SHTF?

Currency.

>>518199

china.

Also read this

https://dailyreckoning.com/golden-solution-americas-debt-crisis/

Tl;dr debt will fuck you in the ass only way out is mass inflation which can be fabricated by artificially increasing value of gold

>>518196

>Tfw broke ass college kid with no money for gold.

>>518237

So basically warhammer?

>Indian army complains that Indian arms industry produces shittiest guns in the world for the highest price, wants foreign manufacturers to be allowed to compete

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/10/14/the-decline-of-the-gun-industry-in-india/

>India's newest sniper rifle: The SMLE with a plastic stock

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2011/01/14/iofs-new-sniper-rifle-the-enfield-returns/

>Indian MRE's are ok, but officers hoard all the good ones and many units only order a single menu with no variety because they're too lazy to order more than one meal

http://www.mreinfo.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=969

>Indian army suffering from severe ammo shortage… in peacetime

http://www.defensenews.com/land/2015/05/31/indian-army-struggles-with-ammo-shortages/

>Indian-made gun barrels for T-72 tanks keep exploding when fired, Russians contracted to build replacements

articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2013-08-28/news/41538730_1_t-72-tanks-tank-ammunition-t-90-tanks

>Indian incompetence leads to multiple ammo depots exploding, soldiers dying

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-36415059

>>518213

>global currency becomes worthless

>let's spend our dwindling supplies on currency now so we will have another type of worthless currency later

how exactly do you plan on making that work?

>Study of 1962 border war between India and China reveals India was incompetent and unprepared… and nothing has changed since

http://www.salute.co.in/a-saga-of-heroism-and-incompetence/

>India has solved literally none of the issues that caused it to lose the 1962 border war; in fact, the government is digging in deeper and making those issues worse, just so they don't have to admit they fucked up.

https://www.lowyinstitute.org/the-interpreter/archive

>7 military blunders that still haunt India

www.indiandefencereview.com/spotlights/seven-blunders-that-will-haunt-india-for-posterity/

1) Pakistan invades Kashmir, Kashmir asks India for assistance and agrees to let India annex Kashmir in exchange. India not only declines to annex Kashmir (which had previously broken away from India), right when they were about to defeat the Pakis and drive them out of Kashmir, the victorious Indian government halted the offensive and asked the UN to broker a peace. The UN didn't give a shit, and now decades later half of Kashmir is still occupied by the Pakistani military, and another section is occupied by China; yes, India literally snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.

2) India ignored Chinese aggression for years and neutered their military in hopes that this would appease China and make them back off. When China invaded, India sent troops still armed with WW2-era weapons, wearing summer uniforms, into the mountains in the dead of winter and got thousands of them slaughtered with nothing to show for it. The issues with no military advisors to the government, no joint chiefs of staff, and nepotism within the officer corps have never been corrected in the decades since.

3) During the 1965 Indo-Pakistani War, India asked Russia to arbitrate a peace agreement. India agreed to return a strategic mountain pass, which it had only captured after taking disproportionate casualties, if Pakistan would agree to a ceasefire. Pakistan agreed, retook the mountain pass, and immediately violated the ceasefire; India was never able to recapture the pass for the remainder of the war, and Pakistan currently uses it to smuggle weapons to muslim terrorists in India.

4) In 1971, India won a huge victory over Pakistan and captured 96,000 POW's, whereas Pakistan only held 671 Indian POW's. Pakistan agreed to a ceasefire and said they would release all POW's and remove their troops from Kashmir in exchange for getting half their army back. India released all 96,000 POW's. Pakistan, to this day, still holds 54 Indian POW's and still occupies half of Kashmir. India is fucking retarded.

5) In 1974, India performed its first nuclear test and successfully detonated a nuke. Instead of proudly joining the nuclear club and demanding respect, they instead insisted it was a "peaceful nuclear explosion", claimed they had no nuclear ambitions, claimed their nukes were only for mining, diverting rivers, and scientific study, not for military use, and self-imposed a ban on any future nuclear tests. All because they were apparently afraid of getting sanctioned by the UN.

6) The Kandahar airplane hijacking is another embarrassment on India's resume. After hijackers took over a plane full of hostages and announced their demands, the Indian government responded by releasing three terrorists, then bragging about how they had bargained with the terrorists and gotten them to accept only part of their demands being met. Then the foreign minister escorted the terrorists out of the country as if he were seeing off honored guests. General consensus is that India isn't any better prepared to deal with terrorism now than they were then.

7) India actually passed a law requiring that, in the Assam district, instead of forcing someone accused of being an illegal alien to prove their citizenship, the government instead has to prove they're not a citizen, which is all but impossible. As a result, illegal aliens flooded into the region and for the next 20 years, every attempt to repeal the law was blocked by politicians who were receiving money from illegal alien lobbyists. It was finally declared unconstitutional and struck down, but the damage has been done; the region is now dominated by foreigners, primarily muslims trying to take over the region, and no political party can gain a foothold there unless the illegals approve.

>India claims it got its ass handed to it by terrorists because the 9mm MP5 is deadlier than the 7.62mm AK

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/12/02/mp5-is-more-deadly-than-ak-says-indian-commando/

>India's solution to terrorism: an armored golf cart. No, seriously.

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2010/02/22/the-metaltech-anti-terrorist-assault-cart-atac/

>India's attempted replacement for the INSAS "failed miserably" during trials

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2017/07/06/indian-7-62x51mm-ordnance-factory-board-rifle-fails-trials/

>Indian Navy MiG-29's keep breaking on every landing

http://www.defensenews.com/land/2017/08/04/indian-navy-wants-russian-mig-29k-jets-to-be-ruggedized/

>Indians can't land on a carrier properly and keep basically crash-landing

>Indians see all maintenance as janitorial work that is beneath them, and so never bother to properly maintain vehicles and equipment

>Indians blame it on Russian equipment

POOPER POWER BY 2020!

>>518244

How many /k/ommandos would be needed to take the subcontinent?

>>518247

You could murder their military all day long, but the fact remains that there's over a billion of the soulless street shitters.

You'd need a combination of bubonic plague (they love rats there, so no problem spreading that), ebola and small pox (they live in hives, wallow in their own filth, and bathe next to rotting corpses, no problem getting disease to spread and you could realistically even claim it occurred naturally due to the abominable conditions there.), followed by nukes to their capital and every sea port, plus cruise missiles hitting every airport (so they don't flee and contaminate the rest of the planet) to deal with the poo-in-loo problem effectively.

They could still swarm across the border on foot into China and Pakistan, but that solves another couple of problems.

>>518249

wouldn't napalm be just as effective?

>>518250

Not at current gas prizes.

Well that explains why their war with an inferior country like Pakistan keeps stalemating.

>>518245

hilarious watching companies fall for the indian procurement meme, every time they put out an RFP. oh lawdy there's untapped mountains of gold under all this poo and corruption! was bummed when CZ fell for it.

>>518199

In reality, absolutely nothing. Gold is valuable solely because of its (relative to other metals) low melting point, its relative abundance compared to stuff like the noble metals, and its resistance to corrosion and chemical weathering. If anything contemporary metals like iron, nickel, lead. etc. would be more important because nowadays we have the technology to get stuff heated up enough to melt those metals and those metals are much more useful in a SHTF scenario where they can be used to create tools, parts, bullets, edged weapons, etc.

>>518224

Slingshots are underrated as a weapon.

>>518311

But…but… gold is shiny! And it can be made into jewelry! You're just a filthy lying globalist, buy gold!!!

>>518312

JOERG LEAVE

>>518311

there wouldnt be value in any of those metals, common as shit salvage. example, people cast lead bullets from wheelweights all the time.

>>518332

Your own statement just disproved that there's "no value" in those metals; you stated right there that they make bullets from them. That's more than can be said for gold, which can't be used for constructive purposes. And it sure as hell isn't edible or usable for medicinal purposes either, so why, in a time of crisis when people are more worried about meeting living requirements like calories or not dying from disease, would someone give up valuable supplies (even if they're in surplus) for essentially useless jewelry material when they could instead trade for other supplies they're lacking instead? Hell, even if you argue for it as a trading material, most people would rather just trade for a shelf-stable but still useful good like ammo, preserved food or storable medicine that can be kept for a while.

>>518332

Way to not only misunderstand my post but to also completely validate everything I said. >>518339 has it right: those metals would have value because they would be more useful than gold in a SHTF scenario.

You have a downsy definition of value, that apparently changes from sentence to sentence. You can make a shelter out of rocks, better fill your khaki cargopants pockets with rocks for the value.

Also I never claimed gold was valuable in my post. WROL valuables are water, food, ammo, medicine. after barter trade starts, gold is valuable again as a trade currency.

I'll keep the gold until then, you can walk around with pockets full of lead wheel weights and fishing sinkers like a retard.

>>518340

your post is bad and you should feel bad. gold is a noble metal for one. can you re write that mess of a post first so we know what you're trying to say?

>>518325

I have always wanted to try putting the corner of a pure gold brick in my mouth, just to see how it tastes.

other than that, yea. post collapse, fuck gold I want some camping equipment, a plot of land for farming, and a metric fuckload of ammo.

maybe some kind of water bottle holder, so I can take the water bottles I use, let them fill with rain water (to be boiled) and then refilled and screw the caps back on. that's assuming that rain water cisterns will continue to be illegal, and somehow fiercely regulated by the state. I dunno.

>>518343

Or, I can just fucking keep a stash of canned goods, aspirin, anti-bacterial medications, extra ammunition, and have an immediately valuable trading good that I can also use for myself if need be, while you sit around with your thumb up your ass trying to convince people who are trying to stave off death that what they want to trade their goods for isn't food or survival supplies, but GOOOOOOOOOLD. And in barter trade, unless you have some sort of central government (and we're talking about post SHTF, everything's gone to pot, so that will take time to establish) that will accept a certain amount of valuable metal like gold or silver in exchange for a basic good (like what the medieval Japanese government did, where a certain weight of silver was tradable for a bag of rice from their warehouses), people will still greatly prefer a good oriented towards survival or rebuilding rather than one that functions purely as a medium of currency or decoration.

It's only when enough time has passed that a solid baseline of day-to-day living has been established, where people no longer have to worry as much about getting the basic things to live, and a government (local or national) exists to provide order and a direct backing of value to a medium of currency like gold or fiat money, that your precious metal stash would come into play. And at that point, you would already be able to establish a normal career that can provide you with monetary income. For the purposes of surviving SHTF, ammo, food or medicine are still far more valuable to stock and dedicate storage space to.

>>518359

goldfags are cucked by that yellow metal.

THE AMBER JEW

>>518199

>Sure, it might be valuable afterwards,…

This is actually one of the most important features of gold not many people think about.

Unlike other possessions of value(food, household items, medications, clothes) in a survival situation precious metals and gems don't rot and thus don't lose value through destruction.

Think about any place and time in the world that was less civilized than the western world in the 20th century was and still mostly currently is, at any moment people could show up and steal ALL your shit.

Sure you will be able to fight of some of them most of the time, but there will be people sometimes you cannot beat and then they are free to carry your stuff away.

If you hide your valuable possessions like food, household items, medications or clothes, you cannot use them and they can get damaged, even become useless in their stash.

Meanwhile the objects made of precious metals and gems are still as good as the day you have hide them away once you retrieve them.

It was not uncommon for aristocrats in Europe to come back into power even after being repeatedly on the side that lost in a war, the reason for that is that these aristocratic families managed to hide precious objects away, which allowed them to return to their standard of living after the war time was over.

>>518249

>the fact remains that there's over a billion of the soulless street shitters.

There's a reason that the: A-10, M134, cluster bombs, Mk19, AC-130, etc. exist.

>>518359

or you can do both gold and suplies. It wont hurt you and having wide range of investments is safer.

>>518435

yeah you are investing into something that never loses value unless kikes to some schfindel. at this point gold is undervalued, it can only rise, especially considering that china seeks dedollarization which they want to back up with their gold. And considering that usa economy is in beyond unsalvagable state and venezuela stopped trading oil in dollars, which was one of the few things that kept burgerbucks alive, it is very likely to happen.

Of course other metals are fine too, if you have contacts in tungsten mines or something go for it.

i recomend buying before 18.10, its date of communist congress in china, they wont try any fuckery before it

>>518430

Or I could just use all my resources to get valuable supplies that have uses and not waste half of them to have gold that might never be valuable again. If anything people would probably be using ammunition as currency since you can actually shoot fuckers with it.

>>518430

This is an acceptable idea, but only provided you already have an extensive supply cache of items necessary for survival and trading while the shit is still hitting the fan. There's no point in planning for that future wealth if you die in the present from a lack of necessities.

>>518244

>instead of forcing someone accused of being an illegal alien to prove their citizenship, the government instead has to prove they're not a citizen, which is all but impossible

How fucking stupid must be someone who imposes himself to prove a negative?

>>518353

>rain water cisterns are illegal

WTF you live in some 1984 shithole