2e6d7b No.514966
>no camo thread
What's your favorite camo and why?
b72118 No.514973
I like flectarn and multicam.
2e6d7b No.514978
>>514973
I prefer Finnish M05, and Australian DCPU.
496326 No.514990
>>514978
Got a larger version of that image, lad?
945b8d No.515000
ay hold up
We always talk about personal camo on here, but what about camo for other things? Tanks, other military ground vehicles, aircraft, etc.? I can't personally find any sort of catalog of tank camo or whatever and I would be really interested in one if it does exists.
0c2921 No.515008
>>515000
That second one is Dangerously Cheesy.
Meant for intimidation, not concealment.
0c2921 No.515011
>>514978
This is the best I could find. It seems to be only a map of camo used by various nations. Not recommended camo based on region.
I would like to have a recommended camo type based on region.
944301 No.515014
What would be a good camo pattern that is affordable for use in the Southern Georgia/Northern Florida area? The region is a mix of pine forests and cypress swamps depending on how close you are to water. Is surplus US Army stuff good enough?
65757a No.515016
dd2424 No.515017
>TFW live in east Texas
>the environment is different all over the state
>can't find any good camo
ac94bb No.515019
The army here was issued a number of camo uniforms, but the best one was the digital urban camo we got 7 years ago.
06fc91 No.515022
>>515014
pic related
>>515017
why not just use normal protective colors without camo patterns?
944301 No.515023
>>515022
Wetsuit in a bog and pine forest? Are you daft?
ce5730 No.515026
>>515023
You have to admit, they'd never see it coming. If you play your cards right, you could probably trick them into thinking they're experiencing a hallucination from lack of sleep or overheating.
06fc91 No.515028
>>515023
it was a joke about irma
e9090c No.515060
>>515017
I think Rhodie camo would do well in east Texas, it does okay in west Texas. Here are my most recent pics from opening Dove season. >>514866
2e6d7b No.515061
>>515011 (checked)
Thanks.
93260a No.515098
>>515017
hey fam, whereat in east texas? I'm innawoods outside tyler. I've been told Varan works well for the pinebeds. Maybe M85 woodland too.
eeb540 No.515147
>>514966
Illinois is a desert now?
59de4e No.515148
>>515060
where'd you manage to find rhodesian camo?
d691d2 No.515150
>>515147
It always was.
in all serious, multicam works reasonably well in fields
d01d3a No.515155
>>515148
kommandostore probably, ivan's doing another run of it too i think
e9090c No.515161
>>515148
This was Ivan's run at the kommandostore, waited damn near three years for the first run. I imagine the second run will go much faster now that they know what the are doing. Also Fireforce Ventures, a Canadian company has more authentic rhodie camo in stock. Sewed in South Africa and 100% cotton, so no modern blends, but the pattern looks good. It's just pricey and has to hop over a border.
2e6d7b No.515181
Couldn't find Australian DCPU tests with a few searches, unfortunately.
a31983 No.515373
og and modern variations of tiger stripe patterns are nice
a31983 No.515374
mgs3 in particular had a nice setup using the pattern as well
4be390 No.515378
>>515373
>Camouflage your face
>But not your gun
Why bother putting camo on your face if you just make it look like a rifle is just in a bush for no reason?
7ebfd7 No.515382
>>515374
MGS's system would have been fantastic if it were in a game where camo were decided on a per-mission basis. Peace Walker kind of did that, but the camo system was greatly simplified and most missions were only separate in terms of gameplay.
d4d41a No.515398
>>515378
to be fair they are on a boat and not a jungle
434dd7 No.515448
>>514978
>>515011
Does the Kashmir one come in cashmere?
2e6d7b No.515566
74476f No.515578
>>515000 (check'd)
>>515008
I think it's for use in the desert. The Afrika Korps had something similar.
bca8f9 No.515699
>>514966
Active adaptive camo.
>>515000
>the real world equivalent of arma wasteland doritos camo
cccdbd No.515841
>>515008
>>515016
>>515699
guys pls I want to know more about vehicle camo patterns mostly because I want to apply them to Gundam model kits
c2bd00 No.515852
>>515841
With German patterns in general, there is one key rule. No repeats.
This might be of use to you Mr.modeler. http://www.stugiii.com/germanvehiclecamouflage.html
cccdbd No.515857
>>515852
Yeah but that's WWII camo. I'm talking more modern patterns and stuff.
bca8f9 No.515902
Did this thread get hit by the alacrity crash or did a perfectly fine post get deleted?
bca8f9 No.515903
>>515902
Posts made since saturday re-appeared so alacrity crash.
0eb684 No.515956
I'm actually pretty fond of Realtree's winter garb. Seems to do a pretty good job, works really well in Midwestern fields in the winter months. Might be a bit too situationally dependent for some folks, but I like it.
822fb5 No.515963
PenCott rip Fear Gear
Takes the eyefuckery of older digital camo a step further. multicam is for plebs
e9090c No.515983
>>515956
Hunting camo is usually actually very good, but it is tailored to exact environments and does a poor job as a general purpose. Hence the military camos chasing the dragon of the best general purpose camo.
1db835 No.516032
CADPAT and ESTDCU are best.
f7e2a9 No.516046
MARPAT and ESTPAT, digital is sexy.
cccdbd No.516089
940bb8 No.516224
>>515011
Fucking Libya gets to have Sumpftarn and even Sumpftarn Flakjackets, yet I can't find decent Sumpftarn gear in Germany.
e219b4 No.516242
What would be best for use in Afghanistan?
DCUs?
2e6d7b No.516250
>>516046
I really like the ESTPAT as well.
409856 No.516255
>>516242
multicam i think.
1fd330 No.516269
There was a camo thread recently.
The answer is Kryptek, duh.
34c709 No.516350
True patrician camo coming through.
a9eeda No.516358
>>514966
>want to make one of these biome-camo maps for Britain
>all the landscapes are pretty similar outside of maybe coniferous vs non-coniferous and some marshland
Reee
2e6d7b No.516385
>>516269
>Kryptek
Do you have good field tests of it?
ee9ca1 No.516464
>>516358
That shouldn't be a problem, you can even see on German camouflage that the patterns were tested in different terrains and some are better in some regions of Germany than in others.
The Splittermuster variations and the from it evolved Sumpftarn are perfect for the North German Plain, the low Countries(Netherlands, Belgium, Luxembourg) and northern Poland/East Prussia, anywhere where you have a lot of open space, swamps and fields this camouflage works much better than Flecktarn. No wonder considering they go back to the camouflage attempts during WW1 at the western front.
Now all the dot camouflage patterns be it Platanenmuster, Palmenmuster, Rauchtarnmuster, Eichenlaubmuster, Erbsenmuster or Flecktarn are clearly made with forest regions in mind, these are typical in the Central German Uplands and most of South Germany. If you are one the forest floor among the leafs you want a dot camouflage pattern to hide your ass.
For Schneetarn you can actually see that it was invented by the Gebirgsjäger(german mountain troops), as the paint blotches resemble coniferous branches and grass clusters sticking out of the snow like you would find on top of a mountain in the alpine regions of Germany. Because of this other types of winter camouflage can be more effective than Schneetarn, however since snow is such a seasonal thing and doesn't even effect all regions of Germany it was good enough for all those years. Now a new type of snow camouflage is on its way that looks more like Scandinavian and Canadian patterns.
This leaves the Leibermuster and one can actually see that it is a highly experimental pattern in the fact that its coloration closely matches the pine groves so commonly seen around military installations in Germany and Central Europe. The little green dots on it are exactly like the little buds on a pine branch before they grow into a pine cone.
132e6f No.516511
>>516350
New navy camo right here
baa2ab No.516529
>>516511
Real new Navy camo coming through.
ba8d55 No.516580
>>515011
who the fuck is this yellow stain above India?
It's not kyrgzstan
d691d2 No.516583
d691d2 No.516585
>>516583
Nevermind, it is Kashmir
disputed border zone between china, pakistan, and pooinlooistan
ba8d55 No.516591
>>516583
>>516585
goddammit i posted the wrong picture for pic1
0e53dc No.516593
951bdb No.516596
>>515147
In Northern IL at least, about 95% of rural land is corn or soybean fields with tiny patches of woods here and there. Camos with a lot of darks and greens like marpat or flecktarn would make you stick out like a sore thumb any time but summer when the crops are green. Multicam would probably be alright.
06fc91 No.516599
before anyone asks for it, best camo comming throught
ba8d55 No.516698
If only it was a lot easier to obtain camo, Is there copyright involved with camo? Like what would happen if I copy it in photoshop
-go to a shirt printing website
-upload the image of my copied camo
-print it out
would the website have to check copyright like they do with fraternity letters?
13bae8 No.516714
>>516591
it's alright m80, China really is a yellow stain on the globe.
7b1c4f No.516747
>>516599
Does it come with a rulebook?
fed0d2 No.516763
>>516747
Yes, but it's for the Fallout pen and paper game.
I would highly recommend swapping it out for a copy of Gurps.
c2bd00 No.516765
>>516698
Only camo's I can think of that have copyrights are the various hunting shit you see in the big box stores and MARPAT.
e00732 No.516962
>>516698
Well, gooks have already made counterfeit camos of the previous pattern used by Mexican Marines.
https://m.alibaba.com/p-detail/EN11611-EN11612-EN1149-Mexico-Aramid-Camouflage-721944699.html
If some gooks have no problem making counterfeits of a woodland digital pattern of some irrelevant spic country, you should just get enough monies and get some Yellow Jew to do the work.
e00732 No.516964
80b155 No.517038
>>514966
>What's your favorite camo and why?
None. Single colors are best colors. Printed camo patterns are just a moneysink gimmick that corrupt officials partake in.
You need to learn how to make camo on your own depending the area in which you are in. Similar to the ones used by snipers
8a0c2e No.517044
I've always had a soft spot for Chocolate Chip
e7746c No.517049
>>517044
Chocco chip is definitely one of my favorites.
Is it actually good, though? I must admit, most my liking for it just comes from aesthetics.
2e6d7b No.517054
>>517049
Seem decent for gravel/rocky soil.
8a0c2e No.517074
>>517044
It was made for the Persian Gulf, but I believe the issue with it, was it apparently contrasted too much with the background and made it harder to blend in with the terrain. It was also much more expensive to produce. It's a good camo, but I feel like it was used in the wrong environment. Also, they were replacing it with Coffee Stain camo by the time of Desert Storm and all that anyway so it only got about 10 years of use and only about 1 major war before being replaced. The logistical issues too made it impractical for mass production, so they cut the 6-color scheme in favor of the Coffee Stain one like I mentioned.
8a0c2e No.517075
whoops I meant to reply to
>>517049
>>517054
d2f41f No.517085
>>517074
>It was made for the Persian Gulf, but I believe the issue with it, was it apparently contrasted too much with the background and made it harder to blend in with the terrain.
I think you've got it backwards, I think they designed it using American southwest as a color palatte. Obviously Nevada desert looks different than the Gulf, and so the camo didn't blend in too well.
8a0c2e No.517087
>>517085
still, the main issue with it ultimately, was the cost to manufacture it. That's why they phased it out pretty quickly once the Persian Gulf war kicked off.
0c8896 No.517096
>>514966
Partizan for woodland, DCU for desert, Desert MARPAT for urban and Klyaksa for Snow.
Are there any other camouflage patterns that have a more effective silhouette breaking effect similar to ASAT and Tigerstripe? Maybe Kamysh/Rastr? The pattern is rather small AFAIK.
34c709 No.517139
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>517096
Jigsaw seems like it would break up your silhouette well even if some of the colors might be a bit questionable.
3cfdae No.517360
>>514966
I'm pretty fond of tiger stripe myself. P-dot/44-dot is nice but I wish I could get it in something more than a smock. Auscam works better than anything else in the Australian bush, it's a shame that I can't nab the red variant, I hear it's excellent in the center. AMCU looks more aesthetically pleasing than auscam even though multicam never really did anything for me.
31219a No.517364
>>514966
>favourite camo
Flecktarn and good old Woodland :^)
Is there a copyright on camo used in military? And if so how do you get a license? Is it hard to make a camo templates for clothes? I am thinking of algorithms and stuff and writing a software to create templates.
f011b6 No.517368
>>515000
Bumping because I still want answers, e specially concerning ship camo/disruptive patterns. Sure, disruptive patterns do not matter much anymore due to radar being a thing, but hypothetically radar was not possible to be used what patterns would be the best for warships?
4b40f9 No.517384
>>514966
I hate to ask, but can someone name the types of camo on the map? East Coast is flecktarn, midwest and cali is multicam, but I the name of the Northwest-south atlantic, south florida, and desert escape me.
34c709 No.517387
>>517384
Northwest & South Atlantic looks like MARPAT; the desert is probably some kind of A-TACS. I'm not even sure if South Florida is a camo or just colors for climate types that were never covered.
c2bd00 No.517390
>>517360
44dot never came in smock form, it came in a fancy hugo boss cut or a panzer wrap. It might be coming in a heretical cut
b41a07 No.517392
>>517387
>>517384
S Florida was an error on the part of the creator. North and east US is Flecktarn, PNW and Southeast is MARPAT, plains area and southern west coast is multicam, southwest is ATACS arid.
6afd15 No.517396
>>517368
Camouflage of vehicles isn't as interesting as human camouflage, because it is much easier to hide them.
They get any 3 color camouflage pattern fitting the terrain, you throw a camouflage net over them and decorate them with material from the environment.
Done.
e1a667 No.517397
>>517396
But you can still make it interesting.
cd57c0 No.517404
Why don't soldiers dress nicely like this?
Also would modern day generals and their knowledge be able to wipe the floor with generals of ww2?
e7746c No.517406
>>517368
From what I understand pink works good. But, good luck getting any sailors to float in a pink boat.
25ddc7 No.517413
>>517397
>You see Ivan, you must be wary of every horizontal log, because chance it might be barrel of tank in disguise.
c2bd00 No.517415
>>517404
Better designs. Loose fitting uniforms are the bomb, there is a reason why German soldiers preferred having uniforms a size bigger, fitted suits do not do combat well.
3cfdae No.517430
>>517390
Well shit, I must have been thinking of Platanenmuster.
c2bd00 No.517433
>>517430
Most SS patterns were smocks or the rare jump smock/trenchcoat looking thing. Guys did from time to time get tailored stuff in their preferred pattern.
7b775a No.517700
>>517673
How to make a Streloks anus clench: The Post.
00e3b4 No.517723
>>517406
Why does pink work?
190cb4 No.517828
>>517723
Many times the sea isn't blue, but a dirty mud pond.
0ecf96 No.524028
rate my random camo
the images next to them are what I used to make them
165859 No.524381
>>515011
A bit of an unwanted update about the Mexican Army camouflage:
I went back to Mexico's south a couple of days ago. I was quite surprised when I saw that the Army soldiers camo there was more brown that before. On most pics about their camo it has a greenish coloration. At first I thought their uniforms were just fading, but then I noticed that their trucks were also more brown as well. I don't know if this is actually an update for all units nationwide, spurred by the adoption of US4CES by the Navy, but I honestly like it more than the previous uniform.
8ebf96 No.524385
>Really like Navy and Urban blue
>Always get shit on because of how impracticable it is whenever you're not either in the sea or in an urban area
Is there something wrong about my autistic fixation on these camos
8ebf96 No.524386
>>517700
>TFW local big box store is actually implementing a drive through system of ordering groceries and shit
>waiting on Dahir to sue them for patent infringement
5601ce No.524574
>>516495
Have fun sticking out like a sore thumb and letting your enemies know they're up against weaponized autism.
2994b9 No.524599
>>517723
Our brain already has to filter red out.
It also works on airplanes for the same reason.
2c8c75 No.524619
>>524599
A very very light pink actually works best against a white background, like clouds, or snow. By the way at night, the best color is a very very dark blue.
How we detect colors is very weird, computer screens can't do it justice.
394d83 No.524844
What would you say is a reasonable number of camo patterns to carry to reasonably in a wide range of environments, and what patterns would those be? I'm thinking of carrying a small number of (preferably reversible) shrouds in a go bag, so I can keep a general gray man look for urban activity while being able to deploy camo should it become necessary. It's obviously prohibitive to carry every camo pattern ever made, so supposing you could carry a small number of shrouds, what, say, 4 to 6 patterns would most reasonably cover as many environments as possible?
394d83 No.524855
>>524848
I've seen that before, and I'm convinced about the colors, but I've been skeptical about the pattern. Looks like hunters are in love with it, though. Just want to be careful because everyone says their camo is the best.
I like the 3D gear thing. Might just do the trick; those leaves would break up the silhouette pretty good and the pattern doesn't look as sharp.
I do like that it could pass for a regular shirt pattern. Like, I don't think anyone would think too much about a button shirt made out of the stuff. Sure you'd probably stand out in a crowd, but nobody would think "mallninja tryhard".
740d62 No.524893
Would mixing Multicam, MTP and OCP be a problem? British surplus shit is cheap and you can get niche gear in multicam (and likely OCP going forward).
>>516698
The Marine Corp maintains their ownership of MARAPAT viciously, even against the other branches. I think they got away with it by including their emblem in the design or something like that.
918bde No.524899
88d1ff No.524900
>>524385
i adore the 90s 4-color urban because command & conquer and micromachines
i'd never use it in reality, it's bad, but i like it.
88d1ff No.524903
>>524855
came to the same conclusion, kinda smart deductions about environment and color, terrible application. the sharp-edged pattern is shit, goes against their own claims even. their color choice is odd too.
also I hate seing blacks in camo patterns. it's not a natural color, and if you're not near other shadows it sticks out. dark browns and purples are better than hard black.
the desert styled multicam does the same thing better, tho it doesnt have the nice depth gradients.
2c8c75 No.524909
>>524855
>>524903
>Just want to be careful because everyone says their camo is the best.
OK bud, get you some digicam then, I'm not your mum.
d33cfe No.524919
>>515147
I live in NWI, right over the border from Illinois, and if you aren't in a farming region, it's usually pretty green forests and prairies. In my area in particular, M85 woodland and Flecktarn are pretty good.
f53ed8 No.524940
What are good urban camouflages? PSG might seem good but I'm not sure. That purple Yugoslavian kamysh-type might be useful too.
394d83 No.524953
>>524903
>terrible application
Not to be a shill, but the application can't be that terrible. It does perform very well, and I've never heard anybody who's tested it say anything bad about it. I think there might be room for improvement, but I wouldn't describe anything about it as terrible.
>dark browns and purples are better than hard black
Ah, I guess I see what you're saying. I don't think it'd be as much of an issue if the black elements weren't as large.
>the desert styled multicam does the same thing better
Does it really? I haven't heard nearly the good things about multicam, desert or otherwise, that I have about ASAT.
>>524909
Hey don't drag me into this; I'm just asking questions tryna edjamacate muhself.
>>524940
>What are good urban camouflages?
IMHO; whatever appeals to your fashion sense. It's not like you're going to blend in with anything unless you're operating in a camouflage store.
be1820 No.524962
Krypkek, the monster energy drink of camo.
I invested in a whole slew of fleck, after deciding multicam and friends weren’t hipster enough. Honestly have been thinking lately that my $20 od green flight suit is more effective and can be easily thrown on over other stuff. Or even some of the green Columbia hiking shirts/pants, as you can walk around in public and then opoutwithyourcockout all incognito.
With that said.. as much of a meme ACU is, I do like the solid foliage green color and the ranger/alpha green derivatives used in the PCU gear range. Seems good for innasuburbs.
f53ed8 No.524965
>>524903
>also I hate seing blacks in camo patterns. it's not a natural color, and if you're not near other shadows it sticks out
AFAIK black is rarely used, it's more of a dark blue/purple and it's more of a cryptic than mimetic element. Although I agree, the darker shades in the camouflage should be used to that effect rather than straight out black. Sometimes it can be effective, though.
>>524953
>It's not like you're going to blend in with anything unless you're operating in a camouflage store
Yeah, I feared as much. Urban camouflage is a meme, I guess.
a8bafd No.524982
>>524965
>Urban camouflage is a meme, I guess.
I mean, the enemy will see you anyway so you may as well confuse the shit out of them before they can take a shot.
394d83 No.524988
>>524965
>Urban camouflage is a meme
Now that I think about it, I suppose my comments mostly apply to intact urban environments. Either a Middle Eastern city where everything is sand-colored or a bombed-out city littered with rubble seem like places where camo might be effective. Desert camo would probably work just fine in sand-colored cities. Not sure what blends in best with rubble. I don't think I've ever seen urban camo tested against urban backgrounds. Kinda says something.
If you're trying to blend in to a more-or-less intact city, I'd go gray man, or try and blend with whatever foliage is around.
1d8144 No.524998
I think we all know what the ultimate "Universal Camouflage Pattern" is :^)
ea234f No.525023
>>524962
I think camo neutral, single colors with a specific camo is the best. Colors like grey, ranger green and coyote with camos like the multicam family or some european camos work well (like that austrian peadot.) I really think the original multicam is an excellent pattern when not taken overboard. Also, I think underarmour has a new set of camo patterns that seem really nice. Cant post pics, on mobile
14c82b No.525026
>>524998
What does the eye piece show him?
20696c No.525027
>>525026
Judging by the expression. What he looks like wearing all that shit.
7e7a56 No.525032
>>524988
>going gray man
Just don't wear Crocs
f41c85 No.525104
>>524988
>TFW I just realized that dressing up and blending in with the crowd means I've been wearing camouflage effectively for my entire life!
TFW professional unnoticeable person.
81024f No.525110
>>525104
>capitalised "TFW" with no greentext
Hello, reddit
0fca13 No.530215
It took me this long to realize that some Swiss clothes could almost work as impromptu snow camo when reversed. It definitely wasn't intended to be worn like this, and most of the pockets would be inaccessible, but it might be better than nothing. Some of it even comes pre-labeled so I don't have to worry about writing my name in it.
1f74fc No.530806
this of course.
I saw a ghille suit made from coyote brown gear draped with a gray square mesh net, it blended in perfectly with HESCO barriers.
1f74fc No.530807
I doubt it's effectiveness but I really like it anyways
1f74fc No.530810
vegetato italiano, the brownish version
1f74fc No.530833
if you bleached the black spots in chocolate chip do you think it would be effective?
31540c No.530840
>>515011
>Chile is gone and marked as part of Argentina
I wonder who is behind that map. Fucking negritos.
7d4838 No.530853
>>530840
Chile isn't the only missing country, I think whoever did this was good at camo but bad at geography. Or maybe they grouped countries with similar camo together?
e7390a No.531065
>>530812
Italian camo is underrated, all the way from Telo Mimetico.
>>530840
>>530853
I guess the map is just very old, so Argentina and Chile used Woodland. But I also can be wrong.
8b2362 No.531172
>>531065
Probably. We use MARPAT + ACU + MultiCam now.
0f0ec9 No.531596
Whipped this up in a minute with color match function. Abomination or beautiful?
c84633 No.531608
>>531596
>shades of green
ineffective more like
884414 No.531639
>>515578
It's not. It's an event thing, per german tradition german vehicles are named after animals (Tiger and Leopard are transparent but Fuchs means Fox, Marder means Martens, Boxer means Pug, Wiesel means Weasel, etc…) the german SPAAG are named "Gepard" which is Cheetah in German.
So they gave the cheetah a cheetah camo.
884414 No.531641
>>524844
SURPAT
French CCE colors, MARPAT/CADPAT pattern.
165469 No.531673
>>531596
What the fuck did you do to that 44dot
>>531065
M1929 stuff does well in dryer yet green areas.
285d28 No.531705
Anyone know of a good place to buy SS-Leto/Partizan pattern jacket or coats? I can only seem to find cheapo gorka-style full suits. Who are good companies/manufacturers to go with? Got any links?
285d28 No.531709
>>531705
Forgot to add: Buy jacket, I mean with some sort of hood, I'm planning on buying this as a semi-cold weather jacket that can also be worn in Spring and Autumn, but my head is too big for hats.
I might have to go with a full suit, if so, what's a good one to get? There seems to be many different types of suit, such as Gorka and Sumrak-M1, I don't know the differences between them all, SSO/SPOSN seems like a good company tbh, but I'll keep my options open.
285d28 No.531710
>>531709
>buy
>forgot to sage
Time to kill myself
e7390a No.531715
>>531596
Why not just using the Austrian erbsenmuster?
c1f019 No.531760
File: df38cfd4c247a91⋯.jpg (Spoiler Image, 189.01 KB, 1200x1489, 1200:1489, 10randoms_606527_6449090.jpg)
>camo thread
>no pictures of the best camo
but seriously, would a large pixel digital style camo be viable?
52bff4 No.531772
>>531760
Of course it would, it does the same job as any other camo. Latest heavy equipment camo fad is huge fuckoff broken shapes filled with solid color, and that seems to be working very well too.
395b56 No.531799
>>515378
White skin reflects light like any other white surface dooes. A black rifle doesn't nearly as much. This is a typical assault layout, where you don't really care about camo as much as the function of your gun and free movement, but you don't want to stick out either.
>>515857
Most vehicles nowadays use the same arragement of colour patches. If you have seen one Wolf, Fuchs or Leo you have seen them all. This is done because vehicles that come with soft roofs or tarpuline covers can interchange them without having sharp edges. Replacement part (like lights hatches, handles or mirrors) also don't need to be painted by the troops.
For winter camo we simply used a mixture of chalk and water and applied it using any tool available.
>>530215
>It definitely wasn't intended to be worn like this,
I doubt that. Most of the German gear we had was at least to some extend reversable for winter conditions. Helmet covers especially, which came with one side Flecktarn and the other snow white (new versions have Tropentarn on the former Snow side).
The new rain coats are also much lighter on the inside IIRC and should work just as well if worn reversed, because the pockets are actually just holes so you can access the pockets in your real jacket/pants worn below.
66d6c1 No.532369
8b2362 No.532556
>>531760
>>531772
You mean like the Latvian NBS camouflage? Looks breddy good.
e7390a No.532563
>>532556
Second pattern kinda reminds me the SPOSN spectre.
f4ccd7 No.532567
>>532556
That looks pretty cool, seems like it'd break you up at a distance well.
>>514966
I do love some Russian camo autism. Especially Flek-D and Partizan SS patterns.
317aab No.532568
Why the fuck is everything so expensive here? I hear about woodland BDU that cost 10 dollars in the US, but a woodland BDU here is fucking 5x that
And anything new-ish is always 50 euros and above
66d6c1 No.532569
>>532568
>not going for a plain military green with some sticks and leaves on top of you
0f0ec9 No.532573
>>532568
Woodland is crap and only used in the US because it is dirt cheap. Get used MTP off varusteleka.
2f4682 No.532574
>>532568
Have you checked Varusteleka?
cf3fdd No.532584
>>532573
>>532574
Obligatory webm.
317aab No.532585
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>532573
>>532574
US woodland is still effective, MTP on Varusteleka looks deserty, which I can't use here.
All the woodland that fits me is sold out
e7390a No.532587
>>532568
>mfw I got a $11 M81 BDU with a raid mod
0f0ec9 No.532594
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>532585
The "desert" color scheme actually works fine in forest. Notice forest animals are grey, tan and brown but it's really difficult to find a green land animal bigger than your head.
If you really want a forest focused camo, get Flecktarn. Uniforms are dirt cheap.
2f4682 No.532618
>>532585
Why not go for Flecktarn
or some other euro/Russian meme camo? They all work fairly well, and there are a lot of options for woodland patterns. If you have already checked those, just wait for them to come back in stock. They get new stuff at least once a week.
>>532594
This. There is a reason I have spent an obscene amount of money on fancy German and UF Pro clothing and web gear to get a fully modernized set of full Flecktarn everything (besides holster and rifle, which have MARPAT wrap). That, or I may just be a Germaboo.
31e051 No.532619
>>516535
Best camo i've ever seen
cf57cf No.532670
>>532585
I decided to order pic related, basically British DPM but with some changed colors.
285d28 No.532697
>>532670
Is that the Dutch pattern?
c1f019 No.532700
>>532556
yeah, that kind of shit. looks nice.
317aab No.532722
285d28 No.532724
>>532722
Ah, nice, got the Dutch 35L daysack, it's breddy good.
0f0ec9 No.533168
ABU camo any good? Looks cool (like all Tiger Stripe based camo) but is it any good? Brent doesn't have a video on it.
8b2362 No.533258
>>533168
I'm pretty sure it's meant as a uniform rather than an actual BDU. I'm pretty sure it's slightly better than ACU (because of the tigerstripe disruption) but still won't be useful in anything else other than rock, cement and tacky couches.
0f0ec9 No.533299
>>533258
I can't be as bad as UCP. Not even plain brown is as bad as UCP.
Though I can't find any pictures of field use beyond this one.
f4ccd7 No.533305
>>533299
>field use
>for chair force camo
That's by design LOL. Other anon is right though, it's only slight better because it has some contrast from the strips. It's the same color scheme as UCP so it has the same downfalls, and being only useful as a base for dyeing.
a00195 No.533371
>>524903
>i hate seeing blacks in camo
Yeah, niggers don't rly belong in uniform imo
I kid, but you're wrong, woodland is superior camoflage
c5523c No.533408
>>533299
That's because the AF doesn't use the ABU on deployment/outside of garrison as it doesn't meet the fire retardation requirements. Hence, the AF produced to ABS-G (Airman Battle System -Ground) which consists of the ABE (Airman Battle Ensemble) which is produced in Digital Tigerstripe (ABU pattern) and OCP/Multicam, with some garments being dual-patterned (Multicam on one side, Tigerstripes on the other). Normally, when you see AF personnel wearing the Digital Tigerstripes in a "tactical" it's JTAC, TACP, PJOC, ect… or other "tactical" groups within the AF and that is usually during a training or readiness course, most JTAC/TACP/PJOC sport the Multicam ABS-G/ABE when deployed or wear authorized uniforms of whatever unit they're attached to.
0ac722 No.533410
>>533408
Why not adopt another commercial variant like all terrain tiger?
>different than other branches for "MUH UNIQUE CAMMIES"
>actually looks functional
>still dank tigerstripe
>a new excuse to waste tax dollars
c5523c No.533412
>>533410
Fuck if I know. DoD just loves to burn cash in the furnace for the sake of it.
e7390a No.533416
>>533410
Because it's the unholy union of Multicam and a heavily modified lizard pattern Tiger Stripe.
30b387 No.533981
>>533410
now this is a pattern i can get behind. looks rad
73bf0c No.533997
c500a9 No.534906
We get a new camo next year. The rollout begins 2018.
Middle is old, right and left is new.
0f0ec9 No.534910
775d10 No.534926
>>534910
I think it'll work for Middle Eastern shit, but that's about it. It's "bright" which means with reflective sunlight it'll blend to landscape in the Middle East whether it's desert or forest/mountains, but anywhere else in the world it'll be complete shit.
8aaf5b No.534934
>>534906
Was wondering when you lot were going to eventually adopt a camo pattern
c500a9 No.535077
>>534934
The thing is many people here like he old one since it is pretty recognizable internationally.
1e1fea No.535080
>>534906
Looks like a PenCott attempt at multicam. The few I’ve seen (as in pattern itself) seems effective
t.20/20 visionfag
>>534926
Same can be said about Memecam. Abandoning DCU was a mistake. Army can’t into camo.
a3377e No.535114
Why did no navy so far adopt bright orange suits to allow easier naval search and rescue operations?
Why do they have such a hardon for "camouflaging" individual soldiers, who are literally supposed to spend 100% of their time aboard a vessel? There is no advantage to having dark blue or even white uniforms. Bright orange or other colours that stick out in rough seas can save lives. Camouflage in the navy doesn't.
775d10 No.535115
>>535114
Anon, navy enlistees have been asking this question for years, and it basically comes down to two reasons:
1) A fighting force wearing bright orange prison jumpsuits isn't scary and is unlikely to get many recruits. They want the Navy to look "intimidating" and "cool" so as to inspire awe in other nations and in the kids back at home.
2) Given the currents out at sea, if an enlistee isn't reported basically immediately as man overboard, it doesn't matter if he was wearing a glowing radioactive yellow jumpsuit. The ship can't turn around fast enough, and by the time the speedboat can get out to sea to recover them, the recruit has likely drowned or disappeared from sight. Best navy buddy served for six years, and only one time did a man overboard get found, and that was because his buddy shouted it as the dude was still falling into the ocean.
Man overboard is pretty much a death sentence in today's engine-propelled ships, and is how many a female officer has tried to get the guy who fucked her sister murdered.
47b623 No.539817
Can somebody identify this camouflage pattern?
The picture is from the hilarious bad German Jame Bond knock off movie "Spy Today, Die Tomorrow", which was sponsored by the German ministry of defence and the BND.
First I thought it is the East German Flachtarnenmuster, but why the fuck would the Hero of a West German Spy movie during the Cold War wear East German clothes?
165469 No.539838
>>539817
Leibermuster. End of war pattern, rarer than matching SS smocks.
e859a7 No.540464
>>531639
>Boxer means Pug
What do they call boxers then?
47b623 No.540503
>>540464
>What do they call boxers then?
Boxer
e89925 No.540505
I spent all week working in the shed but I am finally ready to unveil the ultimate camo to you all.
7a09c8 No.540507
>>540505
What the hell, limey? Why'd you post a blank picture?
fa6acf No.540515
>>540505
amazing
I've been kicking around the idea of making a /k/ camo although I'm pretty sure it'd end up being kind of primitive.
96e2a7 No.541102
>>515011
>tfw just a blank yellow blob
>>534906
When will the digital camo meme end, truly this is the worst timeline
0a9f36 No.541109
Is our camo any good?
>>534906
So, you kept the stars from the times of Austria-Hungary, but you placed the insignia to a completely different place?
>>541102
>land of the yellow crawling dragons
Is there something actually wrong with digital camo, or is it simply ugly?
fa6acf No.541145
>>541109
>Is there something actually wrong with digital camo
Not inherently. In fact, a camo being digital has jack shit to do with it being pixelated. A digital camouflage is simply a camouflage that was generated with a computer, the oldest of these (afaik) is the classic aussie hearts and bunnies camo. Wouldn't call SZ ("KLMK") digital would you? Pixels are used just for them being cheaper to manufacture. You could use hexagons, dots, blobs, triangles, dragon dildos, etc. People hate the pixelshit camos because it's getting shoved in fucking everything now, like it's a panacea. Looking at you, Spain. You think people won't notice you running a pixel filter over Multicam ya fucking cunts?
3229fa No.541167
>>541145
>Berezka/KLMK
>Digital
Texas I…
aadab4 No.541257
>>540515
>I'm pretty sure it'd end up being kind of primitive.
>WW2 Germany produces a number of amazing, but complex camouflage patterns
>after WW2 most Warsaw pact countries are too poor to reproduce them, instead they invent a pattern that is just a bunch of red brown rain strips on grey fabric
>turn out its better than the olive drab uniforms of NATO and can be used on almost the entire planet
>WW2 Britain wants into camouflage
>but they just their ass kicked by Germany in France and the German submarine fleet makes life on the Island difficult
>so British soldiers just take a pain brush and two different colors and paint over their khaki uniforms
>the result is so good it later spawns the French Lizard, Vietnamese Tiger Stripe and the Rhodesian Camouflage Pattern
Primitive is not a problem, effectivity and easy production are more important.
a0cdaa No.541332
>>535115
>and is how many a female officer has tried to get the guy who fucked her sister murdered
story time?
200cdb No.541700
200cdb No.541702
>>534906
What about Poland's new MAPA concept?
200cdb No.541703
>>541700
>>541702
Now why didn't it post the pictures?
db8546 No.545831
c680fc No.545866
>>533410
I actually own this, I don't hate it.
294548 No.545870
>>541332
Not really.
>Buddy fucked his officer's civilian sister
>pump & dumped her because she was an easy lay
>Officer kept bugging him about it so he told her the truth and that her sister was a slut
>He nearly got accidentally "pushed" over the deck on at least three occasions within a month afterwards by people under said officer's command
>Went to report it to higher ups in fear of his life
>Officer lost her shit when she found out he was trying to either get something going or get the fuck out of there
>Literally tried to shoot him while he was out on deck
>Claimed it was an "accidental discharge"
>Unsure how she got hold of a handgun in the first place since she wasn't in a role that required one
>Bullet grazed his head, left a nice scar (wish I still had pics)
>He immediately got re-stationed afterwards, she just got a light slap on the wrist for the "accidental discharge"
>Buddy has never fucked anyone directly related to the military since
f34b4f No.545873
>>545870
He only has himself to blame.
People never learn.
8d2d18 No.545963
I think a lighter form of Feldgrau would most appropriate in the wonderful city of New Mogadishu. Everything looks kind of gray and white in the winter time.
f9fed0 No.545973
>>545873
Not his fault her sister was a slut, also he might not have known, but even if he did and he was that stupid it seems crazy to me that the officer would try and kill him on duty like that, even crazier that she repeatedly failed miserably and got off scot free.
793b09 No.546367
What do you think of derivative camos? Do you like any more than the originals?
c1b2e8 No.546375
>>546367
I can see the repeat in pattern and I for one don't like that what so ever.
85208e No.546511
What’s the camo pattern in OP’s pic around the New England area? It looks like the Bundeswehr camo I see at the army barracks or MARPAT.
aafd64 No.546513
>>546511
Flecktarn. Good stuff.
a3425e No.548531
What pattern is Timberland rockin'?
b0661c No.548544
>>548531
Kinda looks like a really dark flecktarn, on my shitty TV I really thought the idiot just strolled out there in subdued SS camo.
c961b8 No.548546
>>548531
Looks like some of those shitty pseudo camo knock offs that some brands make. It's like something you'd make in photoshop in 5 minutes.
c1b2e8 No.548561
>>548544
Looks like really bad plane tree.
2cce38 No.548594
>>548544
>>548531
>>548546
>>548561
Looks more like shitty rauchtarnmuster("blurred edge").
5f7a69 No.548599
>>548594
Is /pol/ already on the case? I ca see twatter getting spammed with infographics telling everyone that Timberlake literally gassed 6 million survivors with that outfit.
e0b0c1 No.548672
>>548599
Nah, don't think anyone really cares over there. I think this suit is one that was part of some designer's line a couple years back. If I recall correctly, there was a "summer" and "autumn" pattern.
310759 No.548770
>>548531
>>548594
Nah kinda looks like some knockoff MultiCam Black
ac9c3d No.552815
>>516224
Libya also gets to have National Socialism. Well, Islamic National Socialism. Oil industry was state owned under Qaddafi, paying for health care, education, welfare, etc. with the various tribes dividing the labor so everyone is dependent on each other. He called it the Islamic state of the masses. Worked well economically, so well it surpassed EU and even US in economic growth for decades. Socially it was often a mess, since people were given parliaments so they could govern their shit themselves… obviously that rarely worked out very well.
8eab78 No.553097
>>515022
>Yellow scuba tank
>Not using a rebreather
>Highlighter green goggles
>Yellow striped fins
So what you have is a frogman who cant stealth his way under water, cannot reliably sneak about on land and has no on land kit outside of his rifle and knife.
This has got to be the single most pathetic fucking attempt at a frogman I have ever seen.
The fucking UDT’s from WW2 could do better than this!
5ba959 No.553100
>>553097
Training probably
58353a No.554921
>>517397
I don't know why, but I can't stop laughing at this.
e851da No.555322
>>516032
ESTDCU is the best woodland camo,
Prove me wrong faggots.
76dc48 No.555679
i unironicly love greek lizard camo. even had a frind make me a chest rig with the desgin
c961b8 No.556683
What do you guys think of Hyperstealth's "quantum camouflage" thing? Sounds like a taxpayers sink to me, honestly. I do like their camos though.
http://archive.is/Nvbwf
28f57d No.557392
>>516495
Truspec copy righted their camo even though it’s derived from from tigerstrip
What fucking jews
65bfae No.557580
>>556683
Worthless, because the field advanced camouflage has to competed in is not visibility, but infrared and heat detection.
25a527 No.557778
>>524900
what flash hider is that?
f56ab4 No.557790
>>533299
Keep in mind that the color shade will be different depending on who made it and on what material. If it wasn't for the colors the pattern itself would be great.
f56ab4 No.557792
>>557778
Blank adapter for MILES gear.
0a9f36 No.557796
>>556683
>quantum
That word seems to be the synonim of "fundamentally flawed".
463ac3 No.557847
The blood and guts of your enemies.
84f3f8 No.557903
When you're autistic enough to try and make your own set of camouflages and they all suck
a5dd64 No.557937
>>556683
>Enter the link
>First thing to see is Spic Marines
40be86 No.557956
Does anyone know where I can get a weed leaf patterned camo jumpsuit? I want it for the stalker challenge this summer.
c961b8 No.557985
>>557956
Can you post a picture of it? IIRC Freedom uses flecktarn. What you describe sounds more like WWII vine leaf camouflage.
d6abc8 No.557989
>>557956
You're either going to have to make it yourself, or commission a custom run of fabric, then commission someone to sew that fabric into a jumpsuit.
Here's an idea pulled straight from my ass.
Get a jumpsuit that works for you, in a light, neutral color. Get some rattle cans of paint that will work with your fabric. Get access to a laser cutter, and cut a million little pot leaves out of masking tape.
Start with the bare fabric, this is your base layer. Put a bunch of your pot leaf stickers on it, but not overlapping. Spray the whole thing with your lightest shade of paint. Repeat with another layer of pot leaf stickers and your next darkest shade of paint. And so on.
The end result should look something like pic related. Except with pot leaves. Because DUDE. WEED. LMAO.
8d9972 No.557990
>>557985
Something like this.
f62cad No.558069
>>557956
>freedumb is degenerate and has shit taste
what a surprise!
cc8e46 No.568698
Bumping the thread because it was getting close to the bottom. Here's a biome based camo map another anon is working on. Sorry for the link, it's a big image
https://www.dropbox.com/s/q0y0cldl28ntbbb/Camo%20Mapv8-color.png?dl=0
>>557903
Post them
53d319 No.568704
Air Force fag here. They're rolling multicam now, starting with the jobs that actually need camo, but for right now this meme is what we have.
Is it worse than ACU?
53d319 No.568706
>>517074
And thanks to that speedy replacement, you can get surplus uniforms of it for absolutely dirt cheap. If you live in a rocky desert like me it's great
bb0db7 No.568709
>>568704
Honestly Air Force is at least bearable. I've been giving my brother shit for years about the army's choice of camo, especially when compared to the Marines although in his defense, it took us ages to just stick with a single set when we're in a fucked up biome
>"Hey bro"
>he already knows what's about to happen
>"What, strelok? "
>" I think I finally got it. The secret we've both been wondering for so long"
>he already is starting to get annoyed
>"hold on, bear with me. So Hitler probably made it out of Germany, right? But I realize now, looking at the army's choice of camo. It wasn't Argentina or even the center of the Earth, like we thought. "
>"Strelok I fucking swea-"
>"Let me finish. It's clear to me, that the Army's camo choice was the biggest hint of them all. He's not even on Earth, he's actually on the moon!"
>as I've been standing over him as he is trying in vain to watch videos, he is getting more and more pissed, mocking the Army only adding to it
>"How else could you explain being stuck in a sandbox for a decade but still trying to stick with Nazi Moonbase assault colors for inevitable invasion later on? "
Thankfully the Army has finally switched to camo that might be actually viable in this atmosphere, but it's still fun to mess with him.
5865a4 No.568715
>>568709
ACU being Nazi moon base camp is one of the funniest things I've heard today. Thank you.
And yeah, MARPAT is awesome, but I still shake my head seeing the pictures Marines wearing half woodland and half desert gear.
3fab3d No.568725
>>568704
Well it looks like there's an actual pattern under the color scheme, which is better than the ACU's UCP. Some of this shit has shown up on surplus market so maybe someone has given it a dye.
a4ccb2 No.568880
>>568698
>biome based camo map
That map is very detailed, your friend has a long way in front of him. Godspeed.
also the us4ces used in the map isnt the camo its just some pattern i made with its colors based on satellite photos
>>568704
Couldn't they just roll out ABU in actual colours that occur in nature? The OCP colors blend only into rocks and cement.
a4ccb2 No.568897
b9e910 No.571499
Is black more of a hindrance to stealth than a help?
I don't know much at all about camouflage but this dude on YT said that that's why black isn't used on modern camouflage anymore.
07d890 No.571543
>>514966
4/k/ made an updated version of that map for spring/summer and fall/winter
2421c0 No.571566
>>571544
not sure who made that but i don't remember the central AL woods being lighter green in winter than in summer. i also don't see how it makes any sense to arbitrarily swap between two green-foliage camo patterns seasonally. from what ive seen on brent0331 atacs, especially atacs AU, is actually a breddy good year round camo in TX.
17b69a No.571567
I have plain woodland mixed with coyote and a few small elements that are black.
I just need a good type of pants to throw in with it.
e964e4 No.571768
>>571566
For my region of the Texas coast MultiCam or ATACS AU are best.
b15edd No.571834
>>545831
There is no such thing as Ohio. The government just drew it on the map to hide the fact there is actually a non-euclidean pocket dimension between Indiana and Pennsylvania.
You can literally walk out your front door out into a farmer's pasture, trip in a gopher hole, fall and land in the amazon, get up and stumble out of the treeline into the middle of Manhattan, follow main street right to up to the front gate of Chernobyl, walk around the left side of the exclusion zone, take a right hand turn through the Swiss Alps, then slide down a tunnel in a Occupied Rhodesia blood diamond mine and find yourself standing in your bathroom closet.
I've done it before. Twice. There is no other place in the world that you can do this.
2cce38 No.571860
>>571566
I don't see why Alabama is 2 different patterns. The entire state is pretty much the same kind of woodlands except for the extreme coast, and the mountainous regions in the northeastern part. Kryptek Mandrake would also work pretty damn well in the deep south.
310759 No.571931
>>571543
>>571544
>Western Washington M05 Woodland and M05 Frost
4/k/ confirmed for retards. M81 Woodland is the way to go out here.
a7e887 No.571933
>>514966
I always never understood why eastern Washington is not properly represented on here.
a5a1b3 No.573880
>>557985
I think Freedom uses Izlom/Skol, but I could be Flecktarn because Freedom has a strong NATO boner.
a5a1b3 No.573881
>>573880
Blyat, forgot pics.
a4ccb2 No.573884
>>573881
Fuck it, gonna dump a few tiles of camos I have lying around.
778176 No.573889
Skol and Izlom are kino tbh
>flecktarn in DPM colours
Literally can't be bested
a7ad30 No.573915
What camouflage works in a particular area? This is simply answered:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_birds_of_Maine
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_birds_of_New_York
Just change the place to have whatever state you're interested in. Or country, eg:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_birds_of_France
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_birds_of_Germany
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_birds_of_Spain
Often birds will have their regions indicated. This is likely to correspond to where their camouflage works best, eg pic related, a bird that has been seen in Maine. Needless to say, this indicates "may work" camouflage.
Other animals work, but birds are best, because they can fly, which means the places they haunt should match their camouflage.
Be knowledgeable of significant geological features of an area. There may be areas that require special camouflage, for example:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_birds_of_the_Sonoran_Desert
For info on camouflage in the Grand Canyon region.
a7ad30 No.573922
>>573915
(remember to capitalize the state/nation/whatever, use Wikipedia's search if you're not sure what it should be called - I did, to find the list of birds of the grand canyon - I found out it's the Sonoran Desert).
a7ad30 No.573923
>>573915
>>573922
Oh, and waterfowl are often white or otherwise odd, because they're on the water a lot. It's to camouflage them relative to the fish.
95c684 No.573924
Camo is disgusting, but useful.
ad5a3b No.574198
>>515017
When in doubt get flecktarn.
3fab3d No.574228
>>515017
MTP. Then if SHTF the government will wait to fire on you till they can make sure they're not one of theirs.
45047a No.574312
>>573915
Anon I had the same idea some time ago, but I found that this is not practical for modern clothes.
I was researching Urban Camouflage patterns and was thinking, how do animals camouflage themselves that live in the city? They should adapt to this environment through natural selection.
However my attempts to copy them failed, because the hair of their pelts and fathers allow for a much finer and changing 3D camouflage pattern, than just applying the colors to a pattern on a flat piece of fabric.
Most of them have longer Black/Grey/Brown hairs and then a lighter White Undercoat that is allowed to shine through, this allows them to fit in with the random patterns of concrete and stone aged by weather and soot.
In the end I learned that besides the differences in warfare this is also a reason why camouflage patterns are a modern invention. Older types of fabric used for clothes were a lot more fibrous and thus allow for a natural type of camouflage by breaking the light differently.
ad5a3b No.574553
>>571543
>>571544
>chocolate chip for Wyoming
What the fuck did they mean by this.
9ba38d No.574557
>>574312
If you can't copy it, why not use the animals themselves?
949104 No.574558
>>571543
>>571544
Wouldn't white camo be better for Alaska and red camo for parts of the southeastern states?
f7e4a3 No.574725
>>574312
>cat camo
Completely black cats hide great in the foliage shadows and of course in the middle of the night. Pic related, it's "cat camo" from Nam. Patterns are a means to an end, and it's the end you should be concerned about, not the patterns… the end being "don't stand out". Perhaps one of the best urban camo is blue jeans, sneakers and a T-shirt. But put on a ghillie suit for all I care lol.
a5a1b3 No.574868
>>574725
>the end being "don't stand out".
Monty Python already told us that.
>Perhaps one of the best urban camo is blue jeans, sneakers and a T-shirt.
Yeah, only use camo on a urban setting if you want to pass as some paramilitary unit ready to wreck shit. If you're an insurgent, is better to use whatever you have, as long as the enemy doesn't detect you.
BTW that VC camo only works if you're a soulless atheistic gook.
a718ac No.576769
>>574725
>Perhaps one of the best urban camo is blue jeans, sneakers and a T-shirt.
Would a splinter style pattern work to that effect? Something like kamyshovvy risunok but bigger and more spaced out pattern, in subdued tan/greys.
4f0316 No.577223
>>574557
People would wonder what happened to their pets.
The fucking EU made it illegal to have buy cat pelts.
>>574725
>Perhaps one of the best urban camo is blue jeans, sneakers and a T-shirt.
The goal of camouflage is that the people don't see from where you are shooting at them.
If you are a fag wearing a blue jeans, sneaker and a T-shirt in the street and shot at people, everyone will see you.
b73922 No.577248
>>577223
Substitute raccoon pelts?
>illegal to possess or trade in cat pelts
Do you really have that much trouble with shitskins running pet tanneries, or is there another reason? Banning cat meat at least has some logic behind it, you're not supposed to eat carnivores, but why pelts?
54e5b0 No.577275
>>577223
And if you walk down the street in an urban environment wearing camoflauge-pattern combat fatigues and military boots, you automatically draw attention to yourself due to both radically differing in fashion from the average urbanite and appearing militaristic which sets off their sense of caution, and as a result fail concealment/blending in before even having a firearm in your hand.
d33a24 No.577364
>>577248
>Do you really have that much trouble with shitskins running pet tanneries, or is there another reason?
There is a long history of europeans using cat pelts, because the lower classes were forbidden to wear higher kinds of pelts.
In the 19th century cat pelts became a important material for clothes against Rheumatism.
Animal activist had a problems with that, so the EU banned the commercial trade with cat pelts in 2007.
>>577275
Considering the current fashion trend I wouldn't be so sure about that anymore.
81d674 No.577368
>>577223
>>577275
I still say that Hawaiian shirts could be a solution.
7e8974 No.577392
>>577368
If you're really deadset on camoflauge in an urban environment than you should be focusing on colors that match common materials in local buildings over foliage patterns, as plant cover won't be thick enough in a city environment to justify how much you'll stand out against metal or stone. If there's a fuckton of brutalist architecture, wear muted greys. A lot of old exposed brick, then rusty/earthen reds. Obviously it won't be as effective as regular camoflauge against a natural backdrop of the environment and season it's designed for, but it'll buy you a few more seconds for someone to pick you out against those buildings and more importantly it's far easier to maintain anonymity and low suspicion in a crowd before action with such plain clothes. And of course you should have a second set of different, inconspicuous clothes to change into stashed nearby ahead of time, just in case.
But if you're in one of the rare cities that has a lot of plantlife, then maybe a Hawaiian shirt with matching patterns would be good to have. And as a bonus, you can shout "WELCOME TO THE LUAU, EH!" right before opening fire.
1c920d No.578335
>>515011
>>515011
I've been searching my ass off trying to find the name of the Democratic Republic of the Congo camo on that map, but I can't find shit. If any anons know please let me know
6cafd9 No.578933
>>574312
Tie-dying in appropriate colors just might do the trick. RIT black dye would get your cat's black pretty well, I suspect. Something that might work pretty well is coffee and tea staining, for a sort of dirty white.
6cafd9 No.578935
>>578933
Demonstrating some colors, just by adjusting them in gimp.
a486ed No.582439
What is the best way to apply camo to a vehicle that is covered in bricks of ERA? My first idea would be using spotted camo with random patterns where none of the spots goes off the individual ERA brick, but the bricks are quite small and so the spots would have to be small too.
191109 No.582440
>>578335
Leopard spot. Rare as fuck.
>>582439
Do as the russians do to captured tanks, paint them OD green.
52d21b No.582939
>>582440
Leopard spot looks breddy great, and functional as well.
I now know why bingo bango bongo is so happy in the congo.
2e3fe5 No.584829
>>539838
I actually saw photos of some German unit wearing those on sale on ebay 4/5 years ago. Apparently the photos were taken when they were being abused after surrendring to Czech partisans.
Photos were like $50+ each, so I never bought any but it was actually used by at least one Gebirgsjager unit.