/k/ - Weapons

>>512125

I must point out again and again that they did develop a pistol cartridge from it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.221_Remington_Fireball It's 11.3mm longer than 7.62 Tokarev, so the grip would be wide, but I guess it could work.

>>512145

Lots of them cropping up after the pencil-pushers in the USMC started pushing for standard issue 7.62 Anti-Air rifles again. as well as the release of Rising Storm 2: Vietnam, where the /v/ermin whine about stopping power

There are already pistols chambered for .223. The huge amount of unburned powder that hits the air when the bullet exits the short barrel causes a muzzle blast that is extremely unpleasant. In low light conditions, it is outright blinding. Putting rifle cartridges in handguns is the kind of thing that only sounds cool to people who don't really know what they're talking about.

In hindsight, this was a stupid question and I forgot about barrel length. This still didn't make me change my mind on the cartridge being shit, though.

>>512149

>What's a flash hider?

http://www.sadefensejournal.com/wp/?p=1093

Here's part of an article about what happens when you shoot a .223 out of progressively shorter barrels. From a 5" barrel (standard service pistol length) they only got around 2000 fps. The uncorking pressure was around 20,000 psi, though. That's almost twice as high as the pressure blast from a 10.5" sbr-length barrel, and those are already horribly loud.

This is similar to the AMT Automag III. It was a 1911 chambered in .30 carbine with a 7" barrel. The muzzle blast from one of those puny little rounds coming out of a 7" barrel will literally distort your vision, but there's very little stopping power to show for all the noise.

Flash hiders are pressure-dependant. They work by giving hot, high-pressure gas enough room to expand and cool before hitting outside air that it is no longer hot enough to glow. If you start with gas at a much higher pressure and temperature, then slap on a stock A2 flash hider, it's not going to do you much good. For something like a .223 pistol, you'd basically need a supressor.

>>512152

>>what is a flash hider

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>>512197

>BUT WHEN I INSTALL MY FLESHHIDER™

Yeah but bad dragon just ruined their website so finding Chance's sheath is neigh impossible. Also they hate their customers, so there's that.

>>512125

Too long a cartridge to fit within a comfortable grip; other pistol cartridges are shorter so they can fit within a grip you can reliably grasp without looking like a tool, and the only pistol .223 would even be suitable for would be a revolver.

Honestly, I would have forced NATO to ditch 7.62 for a 6 to 7mm cartridge.

5.56 is a nice replacement for 30 carbine.

>>520924

someone who makes some fucking sense for once

>>520924

I suspect that a ballistics nerd very high up has attempted to move the entire US military back to .308, then move it to 7mm-08 because it's stupidly easy to convert.

>>521190

You forgot to point out his bragging about how long and thick a fake animal dick he can shove in his ass. That post is the quintessential essence of leafdom.

Oh it's also near subsonic, and very easily convertible to a pewpew.