235062 No.487757
>ITT we post guns that we are currently considering and other /k/omrades try to talk us out of it
Why shouldn't I get an m1 carbine?
And why shouldn't the thought of owning one arouse me in the way it does?
235062 No.487804
Because .30 carbine is bad and you should feel bad.
Are there any bad reasons to own a ruger gunsite scout in .308?
235062 No.487825
>>487804
There are better rifles out there
Considering getting a K98k in 7.62 Realfuckinnato
235062 No.487826
>>487825
An actual one or a Kike98k conversion?
235062 No.487828
235062 No.487837
>>487832
Outdated, low capacity piece of shit that stayed in service way longer than it should have. Can't find anything bad to say about the 1911 though.
235062 No.487839
>>487837
Well it's a Remington R1
235062 No.487840
>>487839
Don't buy remington, stick to a reputable company and you'll be fine
235062 No.487844
>>487832
>2017
>buying remshit
I ain't even going to talk you out of it, just kill yourself for being so stupid.
235062 No.487845
>>487843
Doesn't savage have bad QC? I remember seeing a hickok 45 video, I think it was hickok 45, where he was shooting a savage firearm and it had really nasty mold lines that weren't removed. Something easy to remove sure, but makes you wonder if they were too lazy or not mindful to that detail, what else did they not check?
235062 No.487846
>>487757
If it is a legit mil spec m1 carbine then it's fine. If it's any of the commercial versions, beware
235062 No.487847
>>487845
Don't know about that, but they are known for having cheap and accurate rifles.
235062 No.487848
>>487847
Just my 2 cents, personally I don't really know about Savage firearms outside of that anecdote.
235062 No.487875
>>487848
Savage model 10 and 11 rifles are the gold standard in cheap bolt action rifles. You will not regret getting one. Only other contender would be Tikka T3 which is more expensive but has a better action and nicer finish.
235062 No.487877
I want a 22 rifle that
>can take a scope without a bunch of bullshit
>comes with threaded barrel
>has magazines that don't weigh only half as much unloaded as they do empty and aren't massively expensive with a bonus for fitting in my existing gear pouches
>comes in a bloomberg offending color that looks neat
235062 No.487886
>>487757
If money is not a problem then go ahead buy if your budget is limited then choose a modern rifle that has rails for optic and light
235062 No.487899
>>487837
>mfw I thought you were talking about the 1911 and you switcheroo'd me
235062 No.487924
>>487846
What this feller said.
Though, with some commercial ones, you can get away with a good rifle fairly cheap.
Universals before the serial 5000 were great(made on all IBM parts other than the receiver, which was made from the original print), I have one in the 3000 serial range, paid 400 for it. The only problem was the rear sight wasn't staked.
Did that, took it out, and it shot great, I was blowing away shaving cream and watermelon at 100yards with my dad and grandpa.
That was a great summer.
Anyways, I would completely and whole heartedly recommend it as a fun gun, not something to go to war with.
235062 No.487927
>>487883
You could always get an MCX pistol and use an arm brace. They're legit to shoulder now. Not to say I don't like the Ruger, but it's another option if you want to think about it.
235062 No.487929
Good thread idea.
>Ruger 22/45
I got a good price. Suppressor included.
235062 No.487932
Guess I'll throw in here.
235062 No.487934
>>487929
>suppressor included
Fuck, HPA can't pass soon enough.
>mfw Trump hasn't done anything to get the word out
I'm thinking we're not going to get anything out of this presidency. I mean SCOTUS is cool and all, but I was hoping for a lot more. It's too late in the legislative session. We'll have to wait until after mid-terms and that's if Republicans keep congress.
235062 No.487941
Fine might as well. Its the only damn thing with a 20 inch barrel so I can larp as a 1980s infantry man shooting Ivans before getting tactical nuked in Fulda. I also know its freedom group just help.
235062 No.487985
>>487941
Get a version from a more reputed manufacturer you nerd its great taste to wish that we were still in the golden era of mercenaries and proxy conflict
http://www.dpmsinc.com/A2-CLASSIC_ep_104-1.html
Convince me to not G3
235062 No.487991
>>487840
Is cimarron's WW1 1911 reproduction good?
235062 No.487995
>>487832
>>487844
>muh remshit
Remington makes good guns, ignore the fedoras and reddits. QC is better under Freedom Group than it has been in some time.
The SKS however is a piece of shit. You don't want to deal with a floating firing-pin, its a pain and the ass and very dangerous.
235062 No.487997
>>487991
>cimarron
you get what you pay for. The Cimarron looks like a piece of shit
The R1 is a good gun, runs as well as a Kimber or Springfield. Also, avoid Taurus, complete garbage.
235062 No.487998
>>487997
>Also, avoid Taurus, complete garbage.
I avoid HUEHUE shit as a generality.
235062 No.487999
>>487845
Kinda, they're sturdy and very accurate, but rough around the edges and kinda boring. Also prone to rust.
235062 No.488003
>>488002
>308 out of it would just annoy me internally when I should be firing 7.62x54r
but, it's chambered in 8mm Mauser
235062 No.488004
>>488002
slav fun is best fun though.
235062 No.488005
>>488003
argument still applies in my tastes. 7.62x54r or bust.
>>488004
Da.
235062 No.488006
>>488000
>a semi-auto RPK retooled for 7.62x54r
235062 No.488007
>>488006
>retooled for 7.62x54r
you might want to double check that
235062 No.488008
235062 No.488009
>>487932
can't help you, i'm planning on picking one up too
235062 No.488010
>>487941
Get a 20 inch upper PSA has on sale and a carry handle, plus whatever lower parts you need and a lower. Way cheaper and better quality 20 incher and you can put an optic on it and get the true benefit of a 20 inch barrel.
235062 No.488013
>>488007
M76 is essentially a PSL in its mechanics and both are an RPK lower with heavier bolt and chamber capable of handling x54r
A big fucking AK is what you gonna get, not an SVD. And I'm going to laugh at you while waiting for my Tiger documents to get done
235062 No.488014
>>488013
>A big fucking AK is what you gonna get, not an SVD
yeah, I already knew that
235062 No.488016
>>488013
I don't believe you
235062 No.488017
>>488014
Then why do you even want it? For all I care it's gonna be same hit on your wallet as making a DMR out of an AR-15 with arguably worse results.
235062 No.488018
235062 No.488019
235062 No.488020
>>488018
Then get a nugget or hunt down an SVT if you really want a semi-auto gun.
235062 No.488021
>>488020
>cheap SVT
>burgerland
pick one
235062 No.488022
>>488020
Nuggets are far too overpriced nowadays. and
>>488021
is right a SVT in burger land is MORE expensive than average SVD variants.
235062 No.488025
Local 'gun shop' **(it's attached to a used car dealership, if that tells you anything)* has a sporterized Winchester 1917. Image related is representative of its condition. Thinking about getting it as a restoration project.
Pros:
>Seems to be all original and intact except for the cut down stock and missing buttstock/barrelband/handguards/nosecap
>Winchester guns are the rarest of the three manufacturers
>Winchester actions can be rebarreled easily due to the thicker actions
>I can pick it up for next to nothing
Cons:
>Original Winchester parts are thin on the ground.
>Ditto with original intact stocks from any manufacturer
>Getting a new duplicated stock and handguard set would cost more than the rifle.
Thoughts?
235062 No.488026
>>488025
AND I FUCKED UP THE SPOILERS BECAUSE OF COURSE I DID
235062 No.488028
>>488025
How much is this bubba'd up monstrosity?
235062 No.488039
I'm seriously considering buying one of these.
235062 No.488041
>>488009
yeah i have a couple places that i've found i can order one for a decent price. just gotta wait till i turn 21 here in a couple months.
235062 No.488058
235062 No.488061
>>487757
Ask yourself one thing anon: how much does .30 carbine cost in your area?
It's a fun rifle to shoot until you realize that if you wanted a pistol caliber plinker you could have gone with something in a more common caliber and still had some dollars left for burgers at the end of the range trip.
235062 No.488064
>>487757
>m1 carbine
its a piece of shit. Weak, outdated, expensive.
235062 No.488068
>>488000
Have fun finding cheap 8mm Mauser I know I have
>>488066
Freedom Group, shit QC.
Henry is better but none of those fags ever thought to make an updated version with a loading gate at the receiver as you still risk setting off cartridges loading them in at a 90 degree angle, and have to reload by bringing the barrel down to you all because of muh history. mean while Mossberg makes a nigger tier leaver gun chambered only in 30-30 fuddchester that can be decent when you go over it with sand paper or pay someone to do it, in which case you end up spending a fuck ton. If you're gonna buy a lever gun save for a Henry golden boy/big boy/whatever has a hand guard save the original for cowboy action shit.
235062 No.488071
>>488068
What would you say is the best cartridge to get a levergun in?
235062 No.488076
>>488066
>>488068
pre 86 model. i love my 30as, other than the fucking flathead screws. flathead screws shouldnt exist anymore.
235062 No.488079
>>488068
Henry definitely has good QC, the ones I have handled have all be really good.
>none of those fags ever thought to make an updated version with a loading gate
Their whole thing is that they only make them the way they were originally designed, which is both a good and bad thing.
>>488071
Any of the common revolver cartridges is a good choice in my opinion, .357, .44Mag, .45 Colt, etc
https://www.henryusa.com/rifles/big-boy/
235062 No.488080
>>488071
.30-30 if you feel like being a real fudd.
>>488076
I've got an old 1893 which works like a charm.
235062 No.488082
>>487997
Don't know man, checking out Cimarron's reviews. For the price, it's looking very appetizing,
235062 No.488084
>>487877
M&P15-22's have been reported to have out of battery discharges. I own one but I've never had an OOB discharge.
235062 No.488085
>>488084
I've heard of that, but only from one source that had very high volumes of use. Any other sources for it?
235062 No.488086
235062 No.488087
>>487995
>mfw Remshit shills on my god damn board
235062 No.488093
How would a m1 carbine chambered in something like 10mm Magnum perform?
235062 No.488094
been wanting a front stuffer and to build a gun for a longass time, plus my state is slug and BP only and fuck slugs. Traditions Hawken .50 seems to be the most economical but the kits are going for as much as the guns brand new. Tempted to just get a barrel and stock blank and build the rest from parts and scratch.
>>488025
Do you want it to shoot or to be a safe queen? 1917s are mechanically one of the best bolt guns from the wood and steel era and preferred to 1903s by many soldiers. I'd be all over that.
235062 No.488099
>>488066
It's generally accepted that in this day and age, Marlins are for real shooting, Henrys are for Cowboyfags, and Winchesters are for suckers. Go for it dude.
>>488068
Thats the big complaint I hear about Henrys along with being overly heavy and stuck in the 19th century in general.
>>488071
Depends on use. I've wanted a matching Sixgun/levergun pair for awhile. Ideally I'd go with a .44 in that case. Capacity on the lever gun plus the magnum pistol cartridges have a lot of potential in long guns . Almost bought a Winchester 94 in 30-30 last week. Looked up the serial and turned out it was made IN 1964 but all cost cutting was relegated to the model 70 and the bad press gave the 94s a bad name. in the end I decided there were better uses for 350 bucks right now. I've got an itching to try loading lead spitzer style rounds for 30-30 or .44 to see how they fair accuracy wise in a rifle. Was gonna load one in the tube and one in the chamber
235062 No.488113
>>488085
Anecdotal, but when I worked at a shop I saw at least one gun every couple of months brought in because of that issue. My friend that runs the bigger shop in town tells me they see about one a month.
>>488093
Like an early glock .40 cal.
Yes that's a grenade joke
235062 No.488123
>>488087
>tfw Freedom Group thinks we need to be shilled upon
235062 No.488124
glock 43, i have a ton of 9mm's but i want something to fit inside my pocket
6494be No.488155
>>488124
Any reason why you wouldn't get an M&P shield or some variety of CZ subcompact?
1aa45b No.488240
>>488155
this gun is a nice compact and has a nice capacity. the image is in .40 but I want one in 9mm
f03ae0 No.488243
I've been looking into getting a Henry AR-7 survival rifle as my camping/kayaking gun.
https://www.henryusa.com/rifles/u-s-survival-ar-7/
The waterproof aspect and weight are what's really drawing me in.
I've also been torn on getting a .357 Smith and Wesson for similar reasons. It's got much more stopping power than the AR-7, and can be carried in a much easier to use configuration.
d44ad4 No.488249
>>488240
>Witness compact
>pocket carry
And a fucking canadian flipped his shit when I said I pocket carried a P111G2.
>>488243
There's never a bad reason to buy a good .357 revolver. I've seen a lot of 66 and early 686's come on the market lately, and those are solid and pre-lock.
9e2c4c No.488250
>>488243
I have that exact gun (Henry AR-7) and a S&W 686+ in my bugout bag.
If you came here looking to be talked out of these things, I'm sorry to disappoint you.
f23c38 No.488268
>>488086
That's what I was talking about with "only one source". They all cite Appleseed having problems (and seemingly Appleseed's guns which will be used a lot).
>>488113
More helpful. Were the people coming in the kind of people who knew how to clean and lube their shit?
89e057 No.488293
>>488243
>The waterproof aspect
It's not waterproof and it will float for about ten seconds before taking in water.
402be2 No.488311
>>488071
The only real answer is .45-70 Government. Everyone else is a commie faggot.
03c5dd No.488358
>>487932
Classic and J&G have them for $300
c27c25 No.488370
Should I buy a Baikal .45-70 side by side?
I'm almost 98% sold so any naysayers better have good arguments
89e057 No.488372
>>488370
They're cheaply made and marketed towards people who want a double rifle but don't want to pay for a quality example.
It's vaguely accurate out to about 30 feet, but some models allow you to adjust each barrel from left to right.
Baikal construction is on-par with early 1900s US double barreled shotguns - that is, kinda crap and holds up to the yearly range trip of the typical 9-to-5er. Try to push it and you'll start experiencing problems, "rusha strong cheeki breeki xD" maymays be damned.
d48be7 No.488381
>>488372
This sounds like jingoistic bullshit without a source
2ed2ec No.488382
>>488358
yeah I've also found southern ohio guns which has them for $299 and that also includes the holster, lanyard, and cleaning rod. currently that's the one I'm planning on getting.
fd1804 No.488383
>>488370
If you want .45-70 get a lever gun.
fd1804 No.488385
>>488370
If you want .45-70 get a lever gun like what was used to kill off the apaches.
2ed2ec No.488390
>>488358
yeah i knew about those two. there's also Southern Ohio Guns which has them for that and it includes the holster, cleaning rod, and lanyard.
a0d37a No.488396
>>488155
i've purchased 2 M&P's in the last 2 years a .22 compact and a CORE 9mm.They both had issues with the metal.
The .22 compact had a defective barrel where a bunch of pitting showed up in a line straight down the barrel, which eventually shredded part of the crown. I contacted smith and they paid for shipping to them and replaced the barrel on their dime. But they kept one of the tools that came with it, and put the barrel nut on backwards. Now it comes loose every time i shoot it and i don't have the tool to tighten it.
The 9mm CORE had pitting on the barrel block out of the box, i ordered it online so i know for sure it was not a gun store handling issue. It now ALSO has a chip in the firing pin channel that i am watching closely too make sure it doesn't become dangerous.
tl;dr
smith shit is fucked
As for a cz i want something i can easilly get replacement parts like springs for since i shoot a fair amount.
a0d37a No.488398
>>488396
the core also has unnatural wear on the slide where the barrel block pivots considering the round count on the gun
bea770 No.488399
>>488376
>>488377
>>488378
>>488379
>>488380
>>488381
Are you ok?…
89e057 No.488400
>>488381
You asked for arguments, I gave you arguments.
Most of the articles for it are generic accounts of written fellatio for it being a double barreled .45-70 for less than four or five figures.
8823aa No.488401
>>488399
the entire site froze and was giving an error of "unserialize(): Error at offset 11 of 60 bytes /srv/http/inc/functions.php:1787" while it looked like no posts were going through
8823aa No.488402
>>488400
>You asked for arguments, I gave you arguments.
Where, besides "muh lever guns"
d44ad4 No.488404
>>488381
He's absolutely right, if a bit hyperbolic.
>Source: Actually handling/shooting the thing.
8823aa No.488405
>>488404
Proof?
I want a source that isn't just conjecture
e27e04 No.488407
Guy that's selling it is asking for 300.
How low should I offer/why shouldn't I do it in the first place?
d44ad4 No.488408
>>488405
Maybe you could use some critical thinking skills instead of looking for another youruber to suck off.
8823aa No.488409
>>488408
>ask for a source that isn't hyperbole/conjecture
>reply is ad hominem
You sound like a fudd that simply doesn't like Russian guns
e532f3 No.488410
Babby's first gun I'm thinking. I like the Mossberg ergo much more than Remington, and I am willing to spend more for better durability and build quality, so I'm looking at the 590 over the 500 or Maverick.
I figure I'll install a ghost ring sight and maybe a heat shield. Are those any good? They look cool at least.
I guess the big question here is whether or not the higher cost of the 590 is worth it, compared to the 500.
e27e04 No.488411
>>488410
I have a Maverick 88, which is the cheapo version of the 500 (the cheapo version of the 590), and it handles like a dream, never had a problem with it, so I'd say save a few shekels and go with the 500 and if you decide later you want to change it up mossberg has a metric fuckton of aftermarket stuff you can get for it.
d44ad4 No.488414
>>488409
>gets called a fudd who hates russian guns
>is sitting in a room surrounded by russian/combloc guns
Nice.
I explained my personal experience with the rifle in question, I can also add several anecdotes involving Baikal pumps and break actions but you obviously don't want that. You want a nice uninformative easily digestible 4-6 minute video with cool targets and maybe some tannerite that you can watch while chugging some bud light and scoffing down a triple bacon cheese burger.
89e057 No.488415
>>488402
>Where, besides "muh lever guns"
I told you it was cheaply made slavshit marketed towards fudds too cheap for actual stopping rifles.
>>488405
>Proof?
I can't give you articles, but you can look up shooting videos.
Anyone who would be critical of it and not absolutely forgiving isn't interested in it.
>>488409
>smug anime girl
>muh russian guns
actually go ahead, go buy it
enjoy your buyer's remorse when it turns out to be an unsightly and janky monster that you lose interest in after a month
>>488407
>How low should I offer
$275 would probably get him to bite.
>why shouldn't I do it in the first place?
Magazines might still be hard to find.
e27e04 No.488416
>>488415
I'm gonna try 250, I'm terribly poor and it's not gonna break my heart if I don't get this, besides, the ad for the gun has been up for close to a month.
From what I'm finding mags range from 20-30 dollars.
Is it a good gun? I know it's CZ so it'll be good, but how good is it?
89e057 No.488417
>>488416
>I'm gonna try 250
I wish you luck, Anon. It's a fair deal in my mind. I've also been in your situationBought a P83 with lawn-mowing money and had only a mag-full of rounds to my name for a few months.
>Is it a good gun? I know it's CZ so it'll be good, but how good is it?
It's two steps above a Makarov. The grip is pretty comfy, it has a proper mag release, and it has decent capacity.
There aren't many, if any, complaints about parts breakage either, so you'll be set.
e27e04 No.488419
>>488417
Good to know, I've been trying to get a cheap pistol for a while, and I'm only 18 in Virginia so I can't buy from gun shops, and this guy said he was under 21 so we're in the same boat on the sort of weird legality of the deal so I'm trying to capitalize on that.
I'll report if it works out.
8823aa No.488420
>>488414
Actually i would like to have an article that discusses the specific failure points with high res photos and if possible repeated tests with the same model of gun
>>488415
> actual stopping rifles.
What the fuck is a "stopping rifle" if you want something more effective, an AR or AK is in the same price range or not much more and far more effective than either
Im not c27c25 either, learn to read IDs
89e057 No.488422
>>488420
>What the fuck is a "stopping rifle"
A large bore double-rifle used to put down dangerous game that charges you; essentially what the Baikal double rifle is trying to cosplay as.
141bfe No.488423
>>488293
Sorry, I meant water resistant and the polymerized metal that's supposed to prevent corrosion (The entire thing is coated in Teflon).
89e057 No.488424
>>488423
Oh, then yeah it's perfectly fine when it comes to that.
The sights are kinda bad and the lack of a foregrip can be hard to get used to but at least the stock is somewhat comfortable in a way.
d44ad4 No.488425
>>488420
>doesn't know what a stopping rifle is
If you want a serious discussion then you need a basic understanding of the subject. Go read some articles about the issues and complexities of double rifles in general, then start reading about large bore double rifles. Then we might be able to have a conversation.
8823aa No.488428
>>488422
>>488425
>SxS/Double rifles are the same as elephant guns
Its clear that you're a newfag who recently only learned a term through Forgotten Weapons and hasn't actually been around other people who own/sell "stopping rifles" and call them elephant guns and would look at you like a retard for saying otherwise.
64c512 No.488430
Im getting it and you cant stop me
89e057 No.488431
>>488428
>I-I'm not retarded for not knowing what a stopping rifle is, YOU are retarded..!
d14c35 No.488605
>>488385
Apaches were probably killed off with Winchester '73s shooting .44-40 ammo. Also, I have a .45-70 lever gun already.
>>488372
That's all I'd use it for probably. That and the occasional time I don't wanna hunt deer with my 30-30 or 10 gauge. I'll probably try to find a used one, then.
I really just love double rifles and I can't afford a real one in African cartridges.
f15c3b No.488610
>>488372
>>488381
If you want a fuddyfive sebenty get a Marlin levergun, a Springfield trapdoor repro, or a Ruger No.1. Every single other gun chambered in .45-70 is garbage.
f15c3b No.488614
>>487932
Related question: Makarov or compact 10mm for CC? My only pistol at the moment is a Tanfoglio Witness Elite Match in 10mm which is just a bit big for CC.
93dc29 No.488636
>>488430
I already have one and I only mildly regret not getting a FAL instead.
0bb031 No.488653
>>487995
>a floating firing-pin, its a pain and the ass and very dangerous
Good to see this bit of fudd-lore is still floating around.
5cfc53 No.488655
>>488653
Yeah free floating firing pins are very dangerous, only a retard would own a firearm with one.
f6ebc6 No.488662
>>488614
Makarov can work for CC. Basically it's a Walther PP in a funky caliber. Not ideal, but gets the job done.
e27e04 No.488664
Some guy near me is selling a PTR Industries PTR 91 with 5 mags and an eotech for 550 dollars, pic related.
Should I do it?
Is the ATF trying to bamboozle me like that guy in that other thread?
24d6d2 No.488666
>>488664
>Should I do it?
Yeah, you can take the eotech off of the PTR, toss it in the river, and put it on your FAL and still save money.
>Is the ATF trying to bamboozle me like that guy in that other thread?
Probably, but why would you turn them down? The first or second sale is always the best, it will be legal and they won't even try to entrap you. After that, you just drop contact and laugh about how you just screwed over the most retarded of government agencies.
5cfc53 No.488668
>>488664
It probably is ATF, but you're buying it legally so they can go fuck themselves.
e27e04 No.488669
>>488666
Well, I guess I can't deny satan trips.
If you guys never hear from me again then the ATF probably have me.
24d6d2 No.488673
>>488669
Take a few of those cockmonglers out and I'll give you a conjugal visit
take a few more and I might even give you a conjugal visit with a girl!
262625 No.488740
current nofun, looking to get my first rifle. I'm not overly familiar with shooting, so I'm going with a ruger 10/22 because apparently starting with higher calibers can mess with your technique. I'm probably just going to target shoot and maybe kill varmints on some nearby farms if they'll let me.
I know this model's super customizable and has tons of accessories, and I was wondering if there's anything I should look out for
f8b947 No.488742
>>488066
Good gun if you can get it for around $400. Plus 30-30 is ubiquitous, cheap and decently powerful
f8b947 No.488744
>>488087
>anyone who likes Remington is sent directly from Freedom Group
unlike you, I actually own guns and have used them, and didn't just sit on my hands and meme on an imageboard about le reddit fedora remshit meme.
f8b947 No.488745
>>488653
>le fudd meme
like I said before, I actually own guns and use them. Had an old MAS carbine slam-fire on me not too long ago. No big problem, just open it up and clean the gun, but it just goes to show that obsolete designs are obsolete for a reason
but don't try telling anyone here that. This is fedora land with a heavy reddit overlap :^)
7b09e5 No.488751
>>488740
The sights it comes with suck, and so do the rails for scope rings it comes with. I put tech sites on mine (M1 aperture style), and those are nice, but you're gonna have to shell out extra dosh to improve the optics.
Otherwise, the CZ 455 is a nicer gun, just more expensive.
89e057 No.488752
>>488745
You realize that the AK and AR-15 platforms use free-floated firing pins, right
Keep your gun clean and it won't do that, or find a spring-loaded firing pin to drop in. The MAS-49 kits are like $40.
1aa45b No.488753
>>488428
so how is being out of highschool finally? Pretty nice right?
f8b947 No.488764
>>488752
thanks for repeating everything I just said, dumbshit
>ak and ar's are free floating
no, they're not, idiot.
a086cc No.488774
>>488745
Son, you understand that French military primers are far harder than commercial ones and that is what generally causes slamfires with those guns. Same goes for SKS's for the most part.
89e057 No.488776
>>488764
>no, they're not, idiot.
Yes, they do.
Aftermarket swaps can be done and some copies/variants have spring-loaded firing pins, but they aren't standard.
Do a single google search.
9ece9e No.488777
>>488764
hownu.ru
https://www.ar15 .com/forums/t_3_118/468693_Do_ARandapos_s_have_floating_firing_pins_.html
http://www.akfiles .com/forums/showthread.php?t=96898
5cfc53 No.488788
>>488764
>no, they're not, idiot.
Yes they are, baka.
5e6a54 No.488791
>>488099
> Marlins are for real shooting
Has Marlin resolved their QA problems with new production? Seems like I hear nothing but horror stories lately.
f23c38 No.488794
Sister is looking for a carry gun. She likes the way the M&P Shield feels, and likes the price (It's 319-75 rebate at a local shop, which is within 5 bucks of the best online price after transfer fee). Thoughts?
Only problem I know of is the triggers are pretty meh, but even after a new trigger the price is lower than pretty much anything I wouldn't warn her away from instantly.
ec5fd4 No.488811
Looking to get a CZ 550 in .270 Win.
Mauser action in a real pretty stock, with what I hear is a very nice trigger, plus I don't have a bolt action yet.
a086cc No.488815
>>488811
.308 or .30-06 if you're wanting more of an ammo selection.
ec5fd4 No.488821
>>488815
I'm considering .30-06 as well but for whatever reason these rifles seem to be more commonly available in .270 Win
f8b947 No.488827
>>488821
.270 win is highly available in the US
>>488774
no, dumbass, calm down. Let me get this straight for your dumbass; hard primers were standard in that era, which is why free-floating pins weren't an issue. That's obviously no longer the case, and which is why they are obsolete.
>>488776
>yes, they do.
No, they don't.
>b-b-but there's aftermarket swaps
>only s-s-some variants have spring loaded pins…..but they aren't standard!
there you go back tracking, trying to not look like an idiot
I love this board, full of reddit fedoras and poorfag losers who never actually use guns but read wikipedia and meme about them all day. Well done!
0cf637 No.488832
>>488811
Oh god yes me too. The FS models are so pretty, I'm thinking of getting this or the 527 in .223 for plinking seeing as the ammo is pretty cheap.
f8b947 No.488835
>>488788
Funny, I opened up my Vepr, m&p, and savage recently, and out popped three springs.
>Just Google it bro
Just fucking actually use a gun. Better yet, get a job and buy something that wasn't built 70 years ago lmao loser
I remember we tried to get a recent purchase thread going and it died because no one posted anything, bc all you losers literally do is sit on your hands all day and circlejerk about what you read on Google lol! Or all you can afford is actual pieces of shit that aren't using spring loaded pins in 2017. Pathetic, seriously.
a086cc No.488836
>>488827
>Abloobloos about problem from soft primers and an easily rectified problem
>Can't be assed to invest in reloading equipment for proper spec ammo
Stay mad friend-o, I've got an SKS I haven't cleaned in the last 2,500 rounds and I have yet to have a slamfire from my handloads.
d3c835 No.488846
>>488836
>Never cleaned my gun lol it's magic
Fake News
d44ad4 No.488865
>>488791
No, they're still made by remington.
>>488835
Did you get lost looking for AR15.com, or did you get banned for saying fuck outside of general discussion?
f8b947 No.488868
>>488865
>"AR'S HAVE FREE FLOAT PIN HURR DURR"
>open my m&p
>its spring loaded
maybe if you actually bought guns and used them, instead of googling guns and memeing about them, you'd learn something.
9b2c01 No.488874
>>488861
Unless you want a FAL just for fun, there are lighter and cheaper 308 battle rifle options, like 308 ARs, c308's, 308 veprs, and so on.
FAL is still good tho, tacicoolism can fuck itself
d44ad4 No.488875
>>488868
Man if you're taking the upper off the lower and springs pop out you really should take it to a trained gunsmith. I'd offer to look at it but I doubt you're in south Alabama.
5094d6 No.488888
Tell me why I don't want this.
5cfc53 No.488889
>>488868
>open AR15
>chamber a round
>eject round
>check primer
>light primer strike
>check bolt
>check firing pin
>it's free floated
5cfc53 No.488890
>>488835
Is this an elaborate troll?
5cfc53 No.488892
>>488889
Actually light primer strike isn't the correct term for it. It's a primer indentation.
9b2c01 No.488909
>>488888
Why the fuck DO you want a meme-vector? A pistol caliber carbine for over 1200$? For what purpose?
b95b23 No.488910
Quick question, why does everyone shit on bullpups? isn't it common sense to make the gun in a small as possible and light as possible package? Is it just that current production bullpups are shit, or is there some inherent fault that I'm missing? I'm a no-guns just wondering.
d44ad4 No.488911
>>488910
They're either pricey or low quality (occasionally both), and have uncomfortable ergonomics for some people. Some also don't like the idea of the chamber being directly under their cheek. Personally there's a few I love like the AUG, and the RFB if it didn't have so many damn issues, but honestly most of what we can get on the US market are trash or just not worth 2-3 times the price of a traditional rifle.
Also:
>light as possible
Shaving reasonable weight is fine, but super-light is the ultimate bullshit gun-meme. next to cryo-treating your barrel
bea770 No.488912
>>488910
Their triggers are all garbage due to how the gun mechanically works. Plus other things like slapping left handed people in the face with hot brass, gassing people in the face when using a suppressor, having an awkward under arm pit magazine well to load and them being a total and complete bitch to field strip.
e08ae8 No.488913
>>488888
Because a Strelok with QUINTS like those knows how to control recoil without needing a special ergonomic carbine?
b04333 No.488919
>>488911
i was about to argue with you that cryo is just another way to relieve a barrel, but a quick search has shown me that people are sending finished barrels away for extra cryo treatment. what the fuck am i looking at?
d44ad4 No.488924
>>488919
The power of marketing.
5cfc53 No.489992
Anyone have a good rundown on it? Or is it just a see eye ayy meme?
bea770 No.489994
>>489992
For whatever reason K&Gay handguns have triggers likened to dragging a piano down a gravel road despite paying a very handsome sum of money on them. Some even swear that makarov triggers are smoother.
051b02 No.490079
>>487932
0 reasons not to have one. Jump on it.
f23c38 No.490083
75ff59 No.490086
>>487985
I can't. I love my PTR.
>>488664
That's too good a deal to not be a scam.
>>489992
I carry mine. I'd say go for it.
c234fc No.490087
c234fc No.490088
>>488835
I think you're mistaking the wrong springs for the firing pin spring. Get out.
798c9e No.490090
bea770 No.490091
>>490083
Well, the slides have rust and treatment issues and that's what cost it the handgun contract for the army.
4803fd No.490109
Talk me out of it? Or into it? It's a KelTec RDB.
75ff59 No.490110
>>490109
Got to try one out at a meet recently. Really nice shooting but the firing pin broke.
ad6438 No.490128
I have the opportunity to buy a Spencer rifle relatively cheap (~1.5k for what my fudd friend claims is an antique, but I don't really know). I know that it can fire, but would likely end up an expensive ornament. On one hand, my great great great grandpa would have had wet dreams about fighting rebs with it, on the other hand ammo for it doesn't really exist.
>>488246
>We can’t go out there and just slaughter people. That’s not going to work
>Implying that's not the only thing that's gonna work
5e6a54 No.490133
As a gift: Fudd's first tactical rifle.
(Alternate is SU-16)
a086cc No.490135
>>490128
There is a centerfire conversion for .56-56 spencers and brass for said conversion nowadays if you're not caring for keeping it original.
>>490133
SU-16's have grenaded in the past.
f23c38 No.490136
>>490091
> rust and treatment issues
Tell me more. As humid as Florida is I doubt it will get anywhere near the treatment the Army needed it to withstand.
c35a00 No.490150
>>487837
>>487899
fucking kek I thought the same thing
d44ad4 No.490154
>>490083
Make sure you check the bore and see that it's actually rifled, since shield's have had that tiny problem in the past.
5e6a54 No.490165
>>490143
The general case would be:
It's compatible with standard AR-15 uppers and magazines.
It's very easy to keep it 50 state legal.
The sporter stock doesn't trigger peoples' and jurors' "baby killing military weapon" programmed revulsion reaction.
It's pretty light.
From what I read it's more accurate than the similar Mini-14 and more reliable than the KelTec.
I have heard that the low comb can be a problem and that disassembly is more involved than a standard AR-15.
Blogpost case:
Gift recipient is more comfortable with traditional hunting guns.
db7438 No.490191
>>490165
How's the trigger? I've been told the first-gen ones were terrible but that they've made improvements since then.
67ef1f No.490192
>>488410
If you're buying a 590 why not have fun a go with the 20 inch 9 shot with a bayonet lug
>>488888
Ignore the fags they are clearly jealous of your fortune. Go out and get 2 so you can larp as your favorite animated Indonesian cave painting characters.
>>490109
just get an AUG. The lel-keks only real advantage is that it can be used by a wrong handed entity immediately without having to swap
some bits around after an able bodied normal human just fired it.
>>490133
Unless you live in a shitty state. Why?
>>490165
>It's compatible with standard AR-15 uppers and magazines.
So are regular AR15s
>It's very easy to keep it 50 state legal.
Your AR may look like dog shit but I would rather have function over form by using "compliant" parts
>The sporter stock doesn't trigger peoples' and jurors' "baby killing military weapon" programmed revulsion reaction.
Again if you don't live in a cucked state this is a non issue. Also it will still trigger those faggots, they only need to see black finish and the "bumpy stuff" on the "long black tube thingie" to freak out
>It's pretty light.
Because its a polymer receiver. And not even an intelligently built one that won't take as much stress like the SCAR
>From what I read it's more accurate than the similar Mini-14 and more reliable than the KelTec.
That describes every gun that isn't a mini or kel-tec even rusted over luty guns made in Australia using re purposed aboriginal gas huffing pipes
> Gift recipient is more comfortable with traditional hunting guns.
But the AR is (pic related) :^)
bea770 No.490197
>>490136
The slides are known to come out of the box pitted and with surface rust. And what >>490154 said. The barrels have some QC problems too.
5e6a54 No.490200
>>490192
Thanks Anon. I did not know about the polymer receiver. That's pretty lame on a ~$1000 rifle. It's nice that they're trying to help people in prison states, but I don't live in one so….
I like that ad too. Maybe I'll take another look at the starter AR's from the big legacy manufacturers they trust (who aren't owned by Cerberus). Talk it up as a "coyote gun".
f23c38 No.490211
>>490197
OK, that should be a quick field strip to check.
89e057 No.490232
f23c38 No.490467
>>490165
At 800 (after transfer) for the communist abomination, I've got to go with 20 inch ar with wood furniture, which will cost about the same.
47036c No.490485
……………..
300 Blackout
……………..
Might even run it without the stock
47036c No.490495
It's really comfy to have an AR piston pistol hanging in your armpit
89e057 No.490500
>>490485
>>490495
The PLR is pretty fragile, Anon.
Polymer parts are good when designed from scratch and not as a replacement or a flimsy chassis.
Also,
>purposely putting yourself at a disadvantage
f5842b No.490709
>>490109
lel kek unobtanium held together with 1,000 wood screws
get it. get me one too.:(
>>490133
if that stock was wood i'd be twice as hard, nice profile.
69d8cc No.490781
Why shouldn't I buy a Molot VEPR and dress her up like an SVD? It's either that or a Tikka T3 in 6.5x55mm
452d13 No.490784
>>490485
300 Bo is cool if you reload.
452d13 No.490785
>>490784
What would be cool is a m1 carbine chambered in 300 BO with an integral suppressor
452d13 No.490786
>>490785
New production of course.
a4cd52 No.490796
Why shouldn't I build an AR-15 chambered in 6.5 Grendel?
89e057 No.490804
>>490781
>and dress her up like an SVD?
Why not like a PSL? It's probably more accurate than a PSL, even, and the furniture would actually look natural.
b06750 No.491307
>>489993
it's front-heavy. wait until the six12 is out later this year
b06750 No.491308
>>490109
look at how sloppy the bolt carrier is welded to the piston. also it's a kel tec. it will fall apart in 2000 rounds
85ff25 No.491331
>>491307
Compared to that meme shotgun you posted a tube shotgun is superior
>holds more than 6 shots
>easier to reload
>no cylinder gap means it doesn't spew hot gas out the side and into your arm
>>490806
If you have the money just laying around there is literally no reason to not get this.
d44ad4 No.491347
Savage 110 or 111 .338 Win Mag.
>cons
Expensive ammo, overkill for any game likely to be in my AO.
>pros
Big bore belted mag without the really big bore belted mag price.
Good elk round when I get up to the PNW.
I really fucking want one.
Either this or a .30-06' next, and I've already got a decent stash of .30-06' ammo.
67ef1f No.491349
>>490709
>shock wave shotgun
Unless you live in a shit state don't be a lazy ass and actually go get a tax stamp or save up for a serbu so you can shittily cc it and make sure any potential nog attacker stays down.
>>490806
For the money you can get about 2333 Hi-points to start a massive gang war/chimpout to trigger the second coming of roof Koreans and 90's militias.
442daf No.491363
thinking about a tikka t3 in .270. why shouldnt I?
b06750 No.491368
>>491331
it is definitely not easier to reload. you can swap cylinders of six vs loading one by one
there is no cylinder gap because it has a forcing cone
and the tube fed shotgun is heavy and unwieldy as fuck
d44ad4 No.491369
>>491368
>forcing cone
A forcing cone isn't a gas seal, it's a forcing cone.
89e057 No.491382
>>491369
There's a tube that is drawn back from around the barrel to the face of the cylinder to form a gas seal.
There are videos of people shooting it, Anon; don't drag this out longer than it already is.
85ff25 No.491392
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>491368
>loading one by one
Wait… you don't double or quad load? no wonder you think that fumbling around with a cylinder is faster.
>you can swap cylinders
Right, so you are just going to buy and carry around a half dozen extra cylinders? yea I didn't fucking think so.
>and the tube fed shotgun is heavy and unwieldy as fuck
m8, you need to lift more.
>>491382
>There's a tube that is drawn back from around the barrel to the face of the cylinder to form a gas seal.
So its kind of like a Mosin revolver?
b06750 No.491400
>>491392
>quadload
nobody "quadloads" when they're in an actual firefight, jerry miculek
and a shotgun is not for walking around with - it's a home defense weapon, where you can have as many loaded cylinders as you want, strapped to a vest, strapped to a belt etc
85ff25 No.491406
>>491400
>nobody "quadloads" when they're in an actual firefight, jerry miculek
Yea, and no one wants to fumblefuck around with swapping out cylinders in a firefight either but that didn't stop you from posting meme shotgun like its the new hotness.
And if you are talking about a firefight then the tube shotgun can do something important which the six12 can't, you can be reloading the tube while still having a shell in the chamber ready to fire.
b06750 No.491461
>>491406
hmm yes that's why nobody uses rifles with magazines today
8c61c4 No.491523
>>489992
Unreliable. The tolerances are too tight for it to run properly, especially with the full length guide rod. It's not a soldier's gun.
67ef1f No.491566
>>491400
>not for walking around with
Tell that to people who hunt, or people who cleared trenches/tunnels and other close areas
>Six 12 for home defense
A maverick or pawnshop 870 would be cheaper and more practical. It's a so far unproven design, dropping money on the first few of a new product has usually shown to be the easiest way to enter the unofficial beta testing phase. I wouldn't trust my life to it when something goes "ay yo dawg" in the night.
9b2c01 No.491746
>>491523
>UNRELIABLE?
BRATATATATATA
>IT'S UNRELIABLE LADIES AND GENTS
5cfc53 No.491749
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>491523
NOT A SOLDIER'S GUN?
TIGHT TOLERANCES?
24d6d2 No.491750
>>491523
>>491746
Better thread question, who would win in a fight, Commander Stryker or Cokefag?
5cfc53 No.491751
>>491750
Probably Jace, he's gotten militia jihadi training from the man Sayim al Hayid himself.
f5842b No.491772
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>491349
it's criminal the super shorty isn't a sidearm option in every game ever
2e5504 No.491834
Should I get this S&W 586? It has the modification from the recall.
2e5504 No.491835
>>491363
Because the Sako is better. I kid, Tikka makes great stuff.
d88c90 No.492824
im unironically considering getting the cheapest air rifle i can find and sawing it down to this (red parts are cut off , barrel is cut at a v so it can work as a bayonet when i run out of food for the rifle)
am i retarded /k/ ?
39a9e7 No.492873
>>492824
Air guns need barrel length to achieve sufficient muzzle velocity.
Cutting the crown into a pseudo-blade will only serve to make your already neutered gun unable to hit the broad side of a barn.
The only possible scenario in which this might be useful is if you're a nigger shooting another nigger in the back of the head at point blank range before throwing both body and gun into the river.
705844 No.495298
Plz no bulli
Won't post link since its a mile long but:
>Bushmaster 10+1 50bmg w/ 30" Barrel
Why shouldn't I get this? Should I just buy a Barret instead since I'm already dropping serious cash?
b20a8d No.495315
>>492824
Yeah that's kind of retarded. Why do you want to cut it down? What's the purpose of the rifle going to be? There's no real benefit.
If you want it to be lighter you can buy really cheap air rifles with polymer stocks.
If you want it to be concealed you can buy air pistols (although I've heard they're shit)
But hey if you have some money laying around and want to fuck with a cheap air rifle for whatever reason to see what happens go for it, nobody cares about air rifles anyway.
359880 No.495338
>>495298
The Barrett would probably make you (and your shoulder) happier in the long run. Also, keep in mind that Bushmaster is owned by Freedom Group, which may affect your decision.
f5842b No.495391
>>492824
yes that's retarded, that's a lovely air rifle don't butcher it. looks styled like an old military trainer.
2b630e No.495400
Talk me out of restoring and eventually reloading for a Martini-Henry.
89e057 No.495406
>>495400
>restoring
50/50 chance of it being dead on arrival.
5932f1 No.495418
>>495400
British or other?
2b630e No.495422
f5842b No.495429
>>488836
this is… a terrible idea. SKS can and do run away fire. there are even drop-in firing pins that fix the problem.
>>495400
how about a Spencer?
f23c38 No.495430
5932f1 No.495433
Seriously considering picking up one of these Leinad double .45/.410 for a woods backup/tackle box gun. I'm somewhat familiar with the crude build quality, and I'm definitely never planning to shoot magnum level .45 colt in it. Diet will probably be low brass .410 and cowboy .45 loads. Basically it's cheap, I have a use for it and I think it's cool, how bad of an idea is it?
2b630e No.495435
>>495429
I would go with a Spencer, but you can't touch one for under 1,700.
Same with Sharps.
cb4a73 No.495437
>>491307
Why not a VEPR-12?
a086cc No.495446
>>495429
You want a bad idea? Try running hot loaded hunting ammo through an unadjusted SVT or FN49.
f74f94 No.495587
>>495584
I have first hand experience with the DE in .50 AE
Pro's:
Fun at the range
Cons:
-Loading magazine past 6 rounds is near impossible without a second set of hands
-Must run VERY lubed or else it'll jam alot. Even if fully lubed it'll jam occasionally
-Ammo is $1+ a round
-Did I mention it jams alot?
-A chore to take apart for cleaning
6b86a8 No.495596
>>488794
>but even after a new trigger the price is lower than pretty much anything
My friend gave me some advice when I was looking for a skeet shooting gun, and it's the best advice I've ever been given. "Never buy a job." Don't pay money for something you're gonna have to work on to make it how you like.
5b8cbf No.495598
I'm looking to retire dad's old Smith (19-3) to the safe and leaning towards pic related.
Is this awesome? y/n
6b86a8 No.495602
>>495598
I have the Taurus version, and I like it a great deal. It's not the most accurate gun, but it's plenty good for what should be expected of a hand gun. Packs a whollop, beautifully easy to disassemble, and is all around pretty fucking solid. If you're looking for a home defense pistol or one to keep in your glove box, it's perfect I'd say. If you just want to throw bullets down range for funsies, it's great for that as well.
89e057 No.495612
>>495598
It's a bit on the large side and the slide-mounted safety is kinda crap, but it's not a bad gun.
d21338 No.495664
I need a ccw piece that won't print when I wear tailored clothes.
Is this what I'm looking for or is there something better?
89e057 No.495682
>>495664
I would consider it the smallest acceptable carry piece, and it should be suitableno pun intended.
You may be able to get away with something bigger, but if the Sig feels comfortable in your hand I don't see why you shouldn't go with it.
24707b No.495731
>>495682
Excellent news. Thanks for the input, mate.
6796e2 No.495742
>>495664
I like my ruger LCP custom as a pocket pistol. It's in the same cartridge and has the same capacity, but is cheaper here in the states don't know if it's the same over there. The Sig should be just fine though.
34eab1 No.495751
>>495664
get a 938, it's almost the same but in 9 mm not 380
d0dc3d No.495766
im thinking about buying a 300 blackout, probably going to go with radical firearms upper, probably a plum crazy lower, going to legally suppress it of course, all in, tax stamp and suppressor included it will be about $650 bucks without optics, i already own 3 ar's but 1 more cant hurt, r-ri-right?
2b630e No.495776
>>495766
If you're gonna get it suppressed might as well SBR it too. You're already paying the tax, might as well throw another 200 in to get a nice compact toy.
4ffb38 No.495783
>>495587
Thanks anon. Sorry for the late reply
>ammo is $1+ a round
You talked me out of it
20ad96 No.495797
>>495433
or you know get a real hand gun. those are pretty much worthless and provide almost nothing that a regular pistol wouldn't provide.
67ef1f No.495812
>>495766
I have a radical fire arms upper it works great and all but texas fags can't into lock tight or designs that don't get loose both radical and primary arms products. Once had a flip to side magnifier mount from primary have the locking pin fall out of its hole and just be a floppy mess bouncing up and down from recoil and the gas block from my upper slide foward making my AR a bolt action until I put it back. I'd personally build from scratch using their cheap but pretty good barrels and either have someone else do it or borrow a drill press to make two dimples on the barrel for the gas block set screws as opposed to the half assed ONE they give you. I'd also try for some other rail than the one they use and go for something that uses a lock ring jam nut thing like yankee hill style rails, the style they use is held on with 8 t15 torx screws at about a half inch long and if you don't slather the thread locker on you get a loose rail and a wasted range day. If you do buy a complete radical upper it only costs a few dollars here and there for tools and locker you should already have but some time to strip down to make sure it's tight. Other than those complaints primary arms is great for shipping times and customer service. I'd suggest you buy through them instead of straight from radical for faster to deal with customer service primary is a seller for radical that's why you see their stuff on sale almost all the time
>i already own 3 ar's but 1 more cant hurt, r-ri-right?
>1 more cant hurt, r-ri-right?
>only has 3
What are you gay?
5932f1 No.495816
>>495797
I have several 9mm handguns for my EDC purposes. I'm looking for something a little more practical for a snake/small varmint gun than my Nagant 1895.
d7455a No.495821
>>495814
better question,why haven't you?
84c682 No.495822
I just bought a Colt 1908 Vest Pocket because I fucking had to.
It's a great little time if you like giggling like a madman while shooting a comically small gun with basically no recoil at all.
It has no practical benefit otherwise, but then like 90 percent of my gun collection doesn't. My brother describes my collection as a "gun petting zoo".
2989b5 No.495847
>>488888
(checked)
It's too long.
097ce7 No.495855
>>495814
What? Are you some kind of criminal?
5b8cbf No.496413
>>495602
>>495612
> /k/ fails spectacularly at talking me out of it
>take a sunday stroll to my local pawn and see a stainless brigadier for a bit more than half price
>it looks like some asshole bought it replaced the trigger, mag release and guide rod
>then pawned it
Not exactly what I was looking for but it felt like destiny. Though I did get delayed so who knows.
93d965 No.496415
Well op, you misewell just buy a hunting riffle.
85ff25 No.496439
>>496413
How much did it cost?
5b8cbf No.496449
>>496439
the tag was 550 but I talked him down to 500 (so 540 after tax).
85ff25 No.496455
>>496449
>500 (so 540 after tax)
I will never understand why Americans find it so hard to just include the sales tax in the sticker price.
That price doesn't seem too bad though.
89e057 No.496471
>>496455
Marketing thing.
If someone saw it cost $550 they're less likely to attempt to buy it than if it were just $500, but when the purchase is more than halfway through and the tax sneaks up they already feel obligated to pay it.
b20a8d No.496483
>>495814
Because the No.4 is objectively superior for the same price
41bbd6 No.496485
I want the Model S&W500 to be my first hand gun when I turn 21. I'll be able to afford it, so price is not a concern for me.
2e376e No.496486
>>490109
Get it, shoot the ever-living shit out of it, and tells us all about it, please. I've had a curious but cautious erection about the RDB for a while.
2e376e No.496488
>>496485
You'll get through a cylinder and never want to touch it again. Trust me, people aren't just memeing when they say it actually 'physically hurts you, limp-wristing only makes it worse.
5932f1 No.496504
>>496485
Unless you have experience shooting (and enjoying shooting) magnum revolvers, you're going to buy it, shoot a couple of times, then it's just going to be yet another ad on Armslist with an almost new big bore and 17/18 rounds out of the 20 round box of ammo left for sale.
If price isn't a concern, buy a classic S&W. Model 19-2 or -3 for .357, or a 29 for .44 mag, not only will you have a finer gun from a more elegant age, but you can ease into shooting magnums with .38 and .44 special.
9e2c4c No.496521
>>496504
This, but I'd go with an L-frame .357. A nice 686 will ruin all other handguns for you.
f23c38 No.496522
>>496455
There is no federal sales tax in the US. It's going to vary so wildly across the country while firearm prices won't it's not a good idea to include post tax prices.
2989b5 No.496532
Finally got license so I need to choose one long gun and pistol. I'm poorfag so my considering: CZ P10C, Norinco PX-3 (7.62x25), Norinco 1911A1, CZ 75 (first version with big lightning cut), PPSh-41, AKM, RPK, Zastava M92, Wz. 88 Tantal, AK74N, SVT-40.
cheap AR-15 is out of my price range
89e057 No.496540
>>496532
Tantal is pretty good - leagues ahead of the AKM or 74 in quality control. The big downside is the folding stock; wrap it in paracord and you'll be okay.
SVT-40 is a pain in the dick to strip, clean, and reassemble.
PPsh-41 is kinda crap and underwhelming unless you have fully-automatic capability. The history is there, but it's a chunky and clunky SMG.
Zastava-anything varies wildly as far as quality goes, I wouldn't recommend it.
>pistol
Either of the CZ pistols.
2989b5 No.496543
>>496540
Yeah, Tantal is one of my top picks - 3100 PLN (≈840USD, 1PLN≈0.25USD) for whole kit. Now I racall few more: Radom Hellpup (2800), AKS74U (with whole kit too) (3900) and something rare - Medusa M47 for 3000
e2859d No.496566
>>496532
Tantal is good enough, see if you can't get your mits on a Finn AK though (once you have what you need in your state, it's actually possible to import weapons within the EU fairly simply, here it's just a form to file with customs pre-buying).
Old school CZ for esthetics, new one for shooting.
22dd68 No.496568
>>496566
I didn't seen Valmets for years, only Galils. But I would like to change furniture, in AK it's not problem. And for AK I prefer real fuckin Warsaw - 7.62x39 or 5.45x39, for 5.56x45 I plan to buy AR in 2018.
7ae766 No.496582
>>490192
I have a unique method of shooting that I picked up from my airshit days. I shoulder right or left without moving my hand position. I don't know if it really works with true firearms, but I wanted something that could potentially support it. (Pic related to hopefully give an idea of what I am saying. Arms are color coded to show no new placement) The method doesn't work well with longer guns that requires a far forward grip.
>>490709
I got it. There are 4 "captive" pins that hold it together. It is very tight and nothing feels loose.
>>491308
I'll put 2,000 rounds thru it at some point in the near future. I don't see any sloppy welds.
>>496486
I've wanted a bullpup rifle for a long time, but didn't want to shell out ~2000$ for one. Initial observations: Balance is amazing. It rests on the hand and doesn't lean forward at all. Trigger is SUPERB. Basically as good as a 900$ AR. It does have a glock like click and reset to it, which I love. Magazine release can be done with the shooting hand pretty easily but it does wear on the hand. I reach up and pinch the release and mag and pull down and out. The magwell is kinda small and hard to hit even after some practice. I'll try to mod it somehow. The downward ejection is amazing for catching brass and I already have a cheap system for doing so. A simple cloth bag with a clothes hanger cut and wrapped thru some of the sling attachment points. (Pic 2 related) It was pretty easy to attach and swings out of the way for emptying. As a side bonus it will prevent debris from entering the rear end of the rifle. It cycled SS109/M855 flawlessly out of the box (manual says they did that intentionally), so I didn't have to adjust the gas system. It doesn't have an adjustable stock (the 2nd gen tactical RDB will have an adjustable stock, and MLOK rail, but that won't be out for a while, I think by the end of 2017. Then it will likely be overpriced due to high demand and low supply) I picked my RDB up for 1100$ last week. It does come with just a flat rail and will need optics/buis. If you have further questions feel free to ask.
>>496532
>>496540
I second the CZ. High quality stuff.
a086cc No.496590
>>496532
I seriously do not recommend the SVT if you're not familiar with it or how to clean it after using surplus or how finicky the gas system is.
Get the Tantal.
4ebea1 No.496601
>>488614
Your major problem with a Makarov(unless you live in CZ) is going to be finding ammo.
6b6129 No.496624
>>496601
nigger even my LGS has makaroni food. and its not like you cant order that shit over the internet. I have had a harder time finding 30-30 ammo than i have 9x18.
>>490109
this
>>491308
>>490110
5e6a54 No.496626
>>496624
>I have had a harder time finding 30-30 ammo
Is this a regional thing? Even the big box stores where I am have tons of 30-30. Often more than 308.
2097ee No.496637
If you have the money and want it for the novelty of owning it, then go ahead. But if you want a practical rifle then don't.
89e057 No.496641
>>496543
>AKS74U
Awesome gimmick gun, and I'd get it too, but if you want something that can hit the broad side of the barn I'd say the Tantal is still your best pick. Unless you want optics, then just grab the 74.
442daf No.496648
>>491835
a better purchase came up and i ended up getting a remington 783 in 7mm rem mag and a leupold vx2 for 700 syrup bux feels better than my Browning AB3 and now im looking at a Husqvarna FN98 in 8x57 as a project gun
89e057 No.496650
>>496648
>a better purchase came up and i ended up getting a remington 783
>remington
>better
You fucked up.
442daf No.496651
>>496650
at least this way i got a gun and a good scope for less than the price of the tikka i was looking at. it also groups under an inch at 100 yards
d0dc3d No.496669
>>496485
shooting it isnt as bad as people say, i felt like i could of shot it one handed but never tried because im not about to drop my buddies gun, but i have seen him shoot it one handed, but by no means should it be a first handgun,
d0dc3d No.496671
>>495776
ya, i thought about it, ill probably sbr it also, i just wanted to keep this build under 1 thousand, but it would look pretty sweet with a 8" can on an 8.5" upper
>>495812
how many ar's should a red blooded american own in order for people not to question whether i have homoeroctic tendancies, i have a mortgage to think about
24d6d2 No.496672
>>496671
>how many ar's should a red blooded american own in order for people not to question whether i have homoeroctic tendancies
0, they're faggot rifles made to be light for limp wristed hands m8
2097ee No.496778
I want to get a hipower for CC when I turn 21 next year. I like the ergonomics and how slim it is. I personally think that being thin is better than being short for CC.
7ae766 No.496784
>>496778
Most important thing in CC is that you choose a pistol that you will carry, second that you enjoy the gun itself. No sense owning an unfun fun :^) But try it out as much as possible before actually committing.
89e057 No.496812
>>496778
It might be tough, Anon, but people do CC fullsize 1911s so it's not impossible.
Just know that you should practice your draw, and that a single action isn't the most fun CCW due to the hammer jabbing you when it's cocked.
5cfc53 No.496883
>>496778
Browning Hi Power is an excellent firearm. My dad knew, I think he was either an undercover cop or PI, who CC carried a Hi Power and then he sold it to my dad. You're right about the slimness being very important to CC, but it is a full sized handgun. Just make sure you remove the magazine disconnect.
In my opinion, the Hi Power is the best handgun in existence.
5932f1 No.496993
Are the Diamondback DB9's terrible? I'm wanting a new deep concealment backup/non permissive environment carry gun, I really don't want to go down to a .380 or .32. I know the early ones had problems, but all the reviews I'm seeing over the past couple of years are good. I figure for $200 I'm willing to roll the dice. Don't judge me on the second one, I have a thing for ODG guns
df06c1 No.497004
>>496993
If you keep it relatively well maintained it's gonna shoot like any other budget pistol. It's nothing special but it's gonna go bang when you squeeze the bullet button. At 200$ you don't have a lot to lose.
5cfc53 No.497093
Is this a meme gun or is the hype behind it legit?
89e057 No.497101
>>497093
It's a meme gun mainly due to its price. The hype will die down after it fails to gain interest since it's basically just an attempt at replicating a single action trigger on a striker-fired pistol.
8825eb No.497107
f5842b No.497142
>>497093
do it faggot. pricey but that's what you get with boutique guns (or anything).
0ea49e No.497174
>>497093
>generic striker fired polymer handgun that has a 1911 grip angle and 1911 trigger shape
>worth that amount of money
8c61c4 No.497177
>>497174
The price is the main sticking point for many people. Hopefully if they gain traction the price will be lowered. It's not like it's cheap to start mass production for an entirely new handgun, generic design or not.
89e057 No.497183
>>497177
>It's not like it's cheap to start mass production for an entirely new handgun, generic design or not.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=The+Story+of+Icarus
18808d No.497259
>>496778
They do exist in short slide which is better for CC, it's just rarer (Argentinians are easy to find).
Put in an XS sight, a shorter hammer, a wider trigger and you probably have one of the best CC weapon money can buy.
That's also what's awesome with them, no lack of aftermarket parts to tweak it (it's a very old design, it can be improve upon. It's sad FNH doesn't make a MKIV, they would win contracts with those).
c97a81 No.497297
>>497211
>Army adopts a new service pistol for gearqueers and mallninjas to obsess over.
>Suddenly it's okay to own the 80's action movie meme gun without looking like a massive tool.
This is a good thing, right?
fb4f53 No.497307
>>490709
Fuck me if the BRNO isn't one of the most gorgeous handguns I've ever seen. When is that shit hitting the market; do you know?
29fea9 No.497316
>>492824
Great idea hueman, that would make a dank prop for some shitty low budget movie.
2474e1 No.497349
>>497211
Vastly inferior to the CZ75 and its derivatives.
Its value is in meme-status only.
f6e0f0 No.497354
Got anything bad to say about this scope? I hear production is being moved.
>>487997
Not only advanced, but this bait is also an old classic. This guy is no amateur. I'm getting nostalgia, tbh fam.
>>488240
EAA, or Tanfoglio as they're called in Europe, are excellent pistols. EAA is just the importer.
>>490781
YES YES YES VEPR
>>496778
They are fucking great, but remember to take out the magazine safety. Makes the trigger so much better.
>>497211
The worst of the wonder nines.
f6e0f0 No.497355
>>497354
>Not only advanced, but this bait is also an old classic. This guy is no amateur. I'm getting nostalgia, tbh fam.
fuggg was meant for >>487995
fab48b No.497498
Considering getting this as my first gun, did some research and found this fits the bill and the budget.
Also I live in Jew York City, which is going to be a bitch but I dearly want one.
32d6cb No.497499
>>497498
>Also I live in Jew York City
Move literally anywhere else. You don't even have to leave New York to escape at least some of the faggotry.
6b6129 No.497501
>>497498
>>Marlin
Your hearts in the right place but Marlin stuff made after Remington bought them out had poor QC. Either get a pre-buyout one, or get a Ruger 22/50 if you want a known quality semi auto .22
8bb497 No.497519
>>496993
Its the worst gun you can buy. I rented it as a joke, and I had more failures than there were bullets in the magazine. I'm not exaggerating.
705844 No.497521
>why not
also what lower would be a nice match for this guy?
c950cf No.497529
>>496778
The hi power was my first pistol, and it fucking sucks to carry concealed. I'm pretty slim and wear form fitting clothes, though. It's an awesome, classy gun, but I carry a keltec p32.
2474e1 No.497538
>>497521
7.62x39 AR15 magazines are shit and expensive
>also what lower would be a nice match for this guy?
One that takes AK magazines
f23c38 No.497617
At 100 bucks, is it worth buying a Hi-Point so I have a gun I can dedicate to stashing under the entryway table (with magnets)?
f23c38 No.497619
262a45 No.497629
>>497617
Even a hi point is better than nogunz. Just make sure you keep it clean and lubricated, even the magazine springs.
2ab729 No.497631
I have a strange and compelling urge to do something entirely irrational and trade by Benelli R1 (9.3x62mm) for a bolt gun chambered for .458WinMag or .458Lott .
I don't even know what I would use it for other than burning money at the range and dislocating my shoulder.
I'm too much of a poorfag to go on safari hunts, and if I use it on boar and moose up here in Sweden I'd destroy half the meat on the animal.
The Benelli is probably more useful, but I've already got a .30-06 bolt gun, and a .308 semi-auto so it feels like I don't really need another rifle that's just a hair more powerful.
a086cc No.497641
>>497631
Go find someone with a big bore gun and fire it before you even think about buying one, I've got a rifle in .416 which has been fired three times and sits in the safe.
2ab729 No.497701
>>497641
Seems like a good idea.
2474e1 No.497729
>>497726
The CZ97 is better than the 1911
t. guy who owns both
Also its an A1 style 1911, so crappy blade sights, spur hammer, and no beaver tail grip safety
cfd297 No.497737
>>497631
urethral sounding
452d13 No.497780
>>497631
http://550magnumwildcat.blogspot.com/
There were other design parameters as well. “The whole project was to fit the most horsepower in a standard magnum action,” Scherz says. “Neal wanted it to fit an H&H box and a .700” bolt, so the rifle could be built on a $500 action, not a $3,000 action. He envisioned it as a practical, working rifle. I built the prototype on the CZ 550 Magnum, because that’s the most reasonably priced Mauser-type controlled-round-feed action available, and it’s a very good one. The cartridge fits perfectly in CZ’s standard box and standard bolt diameter with very little adjustment. The .460 Weatherby head diameter was the one Neal chose because it’s readily available, there’s plenty of brass out there, and it’s the strongest commercial brass you can get. He made it longer, blew it out and created a new bore diameter.”
Another surprising thing about the rifle is its recoil, or rather its relative lack thereof. The delivery of more than 7,000 foot-pounds of energy downrange is normally accompanied by a major thump on the other end. The fact that the .550’s recoil feels more like a warm .458 is attributable to the rifle’s weight, its stock design, perhaps to low pressures in the chamber and, according to Mike Scherz, a factor I’ve never heard anyone discuss in the context of recoil before.
452d13 No.497783
>>497780
different ammo, but you could get this rifle chambered in this ammo.
5932f1 No.497794
>>497780
>recoil feels more like a warm .458
Well hell you could go plinking on a lazy afternoon with that.
452d13 No.497797
>>497794
This is a great big bore rifle because you could switch out the internals for a more moderate rifle.
2ab729 No.497866
>>497780
Yeah, no.
The reason I was looking at a .458 rifle was that I can handload for it pretty cheap, and a local shop as a very nice looking "pre-owned" Winchester model in 485winmag for sale for like 600 burgerbux since it has been sitting on the shelf for 4 years and they want to get rid of it. I could trade my desirable Benelli autoloader for it and get enough store credit to buy a good supply of nice fresh Norma brass.
Another advantage of the .458WinMag is that I can load up some plinking ammo to .45-70-pressures to use at the range.
I could use dirt cheap powder coated cast lead bullets, and it wouldn't wear the cases out after 3 shots.
That wouldn't have more recoil than regular full power .45-70, right? That's not too bad even in old school lever guns with steel but plates.
If I had the money to spend on a custom rifle I'd buy a .460Weatherby rifle, or some fancy English or German double rifle chambered for some kind of massive NitroExpress round.
de2694 No.497881
Tell me why /k/. My current handgun already runs in 9mm so I don't even have to buy new ammo.
2474e1 No.497884
>>497881
Looks like something out of a b-grade 80s sci-fi action movie such as Robocop
6b86a8 No.497893
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>497884
You're more right than you know
8825eb No.497958
>>488039
goodluck finding parts or mags for non juden prices goy
f5842b No.497965
>>497881
you shouldn't buy that, because it's a 3d printed prototype
8dca1d No.497970
>>497729
>blade sights, spur hammer, and no beaver tail
All positives.
5932f1 No.497971
89e057 No.497976
>>497970
I hope you're joking.
2474e1 No.498002
>>497970
You best be joking nigger
8dca1d No.498013
>>497971
>>497976
>>498002
Aesthetic preference, not a critique of functionality. I'm not joking, but I'm aware "muh aesthetics" all I have to back up my claim. Skeletal triggers, engravings, and fancy grips can eat cock as well. Anything but a clean, thin, A1 government issue style 1911 is trash.
22b441 No.498076
5932f1 No.498111
>>498076
I like them, but I've seen a couple with issues from the factory so I'd try to check in person before I bought.
Slide wasn't deburred properly it seemed and there were obvious rough edges digging into the frame when you pulled the slide back. Dealer got them factory serviced and I haven't heard anything but good things since the end of last year, but I figured I'd share.
2989b5 No.498547
>>498013
tbh I wouldn't mind burl wood grips.
2989b5 No.498632
Should I buy PPK-L for 300$? It's in mint condition. I think it's bragain.
2ab729 No.498649
>>498632
Is it a 7.65x17mm version? Then do it faggot!
If it's a 5.6x15mmR version? Don't.
746b69 No.498772
>>498649
Yes, it's .32 ACP, not .22 LR. Made in 64, only german proof marks.
89e057 No.498787
>>498632
>>498772
It's uncomfortable as shit but it's a gnatzi/James Bond gun.
Stylish? Yes. Practical? Not really.
2989b5 No.498791
>>498787
Yeah, but there is no niggers here so I propably will never have to use it. It looks great thou. I could not see one scratch or holster wear, dealer say that barrel is perfect. It look like it was kept in box 53 years. I will reserve it tommorow.
67ef1f No.498807
>>498779
>looks
Yes
>A-Team cosplay
Get the shiny ones
>cost
No
>function and practicality
Get an AR or AK maybe even an SKS
>live in a restricted state
Just buy a featureless AK or AR. Or just build a regular non fucked AR and if anyone tries to grab it give them the bullets first can't corner the dorner
5932f1 No.498810
>>498779
Second finest patterning shotgun Ruger's ever produced. But hey, if you're willing to put up with a seriously overpriced gun inferior to it's competitors, expensive proprietary mags and accuracy two steps worse than a decent AK pattern go for it.
da8764 No.498811
>>498807
>>498810
What's a good AR brand?
911bdd No.498818
>>498811
the one you build. Buying an AR is a mistake.
89e057 No.498826
>>498821
A few pieces of scrap slapped together that's painful to fire and good for a few laughs until the novelty wears off.
The rifled barrel, what little there is, does shotshells no favors and .410 slugs are pretty crap for how expensive they are.
6d470e No.498852
Been considering getting a Mossberg MVP Scout Rifle. I don't need another rifle, but it looks like it could be a fun deer season and maybe a truck gun.
f5842b No.498896
67ef1f No.498900
>>498811
This >>498818
The only reason to buy a complete AR is because you don't want to work on them. A good or "safe" company to buy from that isn't complete shit or cost you your first child would be Smith and Wesson which their base model ARs cost around $600+ (regular pinned front sight gas block with 16 inch carbine gas length barrel and plastic handguards). There are other companies that build them cheaper like Del-ton or ATI for around $400 but then you risk having some parts not being as good, usually small shit that can possibly cause big problems like gas key screws being lower quality or bad staking at various areas but not some explode in your face and rattles itself to death shit.
If you still really want to buy a prebuilt pay close attention to the wording and specs. If you see words like "Hybrid" in the name or Poly lower receiver in the specs list stay away from it (ATI is the worst offender of this). A poly lower receiver is not always shit as in the SCAR, but that's because the SCAR doesn't have a fairly thin weak spot to snap in two pieces like the AR lower does when using weaker material (take a look at where the buffer tube threads into and look at how the big ring connects to the rest of the lower). Just know that building it lets you know what goes into it and what the general quality is, you can also add whatever you want from the start instead of being unsatisfied with it then slowly and expensively replacing parts one by one.
A good place to start for parts to build
http://www.primaryarms.com/
A website with a good listing of prebuilts to get you an idea what of the brands are and what are the price ranges for budget to mid tier rifles (also pretty good for cheap lowers just don't trust poly and if you want a proper one without over paying go for Anderson lowers)
https://www.atlanticfirearms.com/ar15-rifles.html
ditto
https://www.classicfirearms.com/long-guns/?caliber_gauge_revised=412&cat=52&p=2
You may have noticed all three seem to carry one particular brand always and that's because they are pretty good for cheap uppers with all the fancy tacticool you could want. If I were to buy a radical upper I would buy through primary arms as radical takes quite some time to ship almost like they build to order. So just buy one that's already on the shelf at primary, the customer service at primary is some of the best you can get too
http://www.radicalfirearms.com/
da8764 No.498904
>>498900
Thanks for all this info, anon
9cadfb No.501191
>>501187
There are 3 new models of the Glock 19 coming out. The 19FS, 19C, and 19M. 2 are on their website the 3rd is LEO.
f23c38 No.501244
>>498900
Even if you wanted a pre-built AR, you really should just buy an upper, a lower parts kit (possibly a bundle of those 2) and any aluminum lower from a local gun shop. Assembling a lower is piss easy.
As for buying a lower, just call your local gun stores and ask their lowest aluminum lower price. Most of the time it will be less expensive than ordering online because you'd be spending 30 bucks on transfer fee and more on shipping.
The only real variations in lower are material (always get aluminum), and presence/absense of intergrated trigger guard (No experience with this). Previously you might have seen some lowers without trigger guards (this was extremely early and will only be for replicas of early ARs) and high shelf (I don't think these were ever sold on their own, but avoid them). Some rare ones will have fancy crap on the front of the mag well, but these will be more expensive and less compatible. Quality for aluminum lowers (at least in US) is consistent enough.
e532f3 No.501302
>>498852
Everything I've heard says that the build quality is garbage and the action is far from smooth. I love the concept of it, but it looks like a miss in execution. As it stands, there could be a reasonable market for "high capacity" detachable mag bolt guns, but the options are very limited. Granted this is all hearsay, but you should probably handle it for yourself.
326f4c No.501356
>>501315
I have two Calicos, one a 9mm, the other a .22LR.
The .22, an M105 with a beautiful wood stock, works like a dream. The mag takes a long time to load but I've never had a malfunction on that gun.
The 9mm is another story. It has a collapsing stock and boy is that an appropriate name because it collapses on every single shot fired. Apparently the mighty recoil of the 9x19 parabellum is too much for the latch and after one or two shots it will pop out of the hole in the square stock tube where it had been set. I've also never been able to get through a whole magazine without a jam and usually average about one misfeed or jam every 8 rounds. And when I say jam I mean JAM. The way the case gets stuck removing the bolt will require a fair amount of force. If it weren't a collectible meme gun I wouldn't keep it. I'm going to get another, better 9mm carbine some time in the future, maybe a Sterling, but I'm going to steer clear of the 9mm Calicos unless I get a chance to test them out first.
Like I said, it's not all of them, my .22 works perfectly. It's a neat concept and they are collectible but the execution on the 9mm is hit or miss and I don't feel like getting burned again.
f23c38 No.501467
5e8f01 No.501960
I was intending toward a RIA 1911 and an Uberti Colt-clone (RIA for more serious defense, Uberti for range fun) but recent fiscal status changes have forced an undesirable decrease in available budget and forcing the consolidation of both roles into one. Tell me there's something better in this price range that isn't a .22lr, I'm not looking for just a range plinker here.
Even Taurus is more expensive.
fc10bb No.501961
>>501960
CDNN has been blowing out SAR 9mm's for a while now. Last specials list I got had several flavors for the $230 mark with free shipping. Yeah they're turkish and polymer but it's still a CZ clone.
6b6129 No.501968
>>501960
honestly bersa thunders are great shooters and MSRP is like 200-300$. you MIGHT still be able to find a makarov for 250-300$, but good luck with that
https://gun.deals/search/apachesolr_search/bersa%2Bthunder
093b3f No.501970
>>501960
Get a hi-point :). They just have bad ergonomics, and are heavy, but they're decently durable and fucking cheap, which seems like what you need.
ae67c8 No.502001
>>501960
A Zastava m88a might be in your price range, from what I hear they are very cheap. Steel frame 9mm and made in Serbia.
a76f25 No.502515
Got my new trap and skeet gun had fun putting 200 rounds through it today.
f23c38 No.502528
>>501960
M&P9 Shield/Compact with the rebate.
9mm is dropping in fast price..
270455 No.503169
[LanbosArmory] /index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=38742
Archive.is won't create an archive. Apparently Lanbo doesn't like archives.
Device is an TAK47, origin is china, round is 12. Barrel is 18, buttstock is barely there … just enough to go around your thumb. Looks like an AK47 but it's a shotgun. Currently just shy of $490 before shipping
And now that I post, I see there are none of them in stock. Did I miss a good deal, strelok?
(Captcha BeaHero … I'm guessing Hot Wheels doesn't like Lanbo, either?)
c6fe88 No.503181
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>>501960
Hi-points look and feel like shit, but they work. They work really well, actually.
b7a435 No.503183
>>503169
Likely a catamount fury analog with a different stock
Heres some for $379 in good condition
https://www.classicfirearms.com/century-catamount-fury-1-12-ga-semi-auto
5e8f01 No.503243
>>503181
>those autistic reddit-tier mannerisms
>that meme music at the end
>intentionally beating the shit out of a fun
>extended cab truck
>RAPTOR edition F150
At least I know now that despite the old /k/ poorfag guide to weapons, falling down to buying a hipoint wouldn't be completely terrible.
2ed498 No.503256
>>502515
Your guns a shit
I'd skeet skeet, in it and never call back.
7e958e No.503274
Gonna need your help lads. Please talk me out of this. I know it's pretty much just a gimmick, but I can't help feeling that it would be very useful
>m6 scout rifle made by chippa
>very light weight
>can fold up and fit in a backpack or satchel
>22lr + 12 gauge, can use for small game and birds (all there is on the farm I shoot at)
>two triggers, don't have to worry about switching shit around if I see a rabbit or ducks etc.
45756e No.503279
>>503274
>5.8 pounds break action 12 gauge with no pad
ow
What price were you looking at? I see an msrp of $730, which if fucking outrageous for what your getting.
ae67c8 No.503281
>>503274
Unless you really need the 12G and will be using it a lot the little badger is probably a better choice.
0e791f No.503283
>>503274
>shotgun over rifle barrel
79dbd7 No.503286
>>503274
I have one of the little badger rifles in .22lr. Its a really fun rifle. A lot smaller then it even looks in pictures. Build quality is nice for what I paid. I wanted the 12ga but I was worried about the Styrofoam stock and the shotgun over the rifle.
I "lost" it once, I wanted to take it hiking and couldn't find it, turned out it was still in my backpack from last time, but I didn't notice it.
ae67c8 No.503288
>>503286
I actually considered the Double Badger when I brought mine but ultimately I couldn't justify the extra cost for the shotgun when all i wanted was a .22lr.
Have you put an optic on yours? I have a TRS25 on mine and it really suits the gun.
79dbd7 No.503306
>>503288
I have a TRS25 on my AR, I never thought to put it on the little .22, though I might give it a try now. I use mine it for rabbits, I'm not sure if I'm really sneaky or the rabbits around here are dumber then usual, but I normally fire from around 30ft. Optic not really required.
ae67c8 No.503312
>>503306
>I have a TRS25 on my AR
Do you like it? I personally think its a little too small for the AR (even with the riser) which is why I have the larger MP red dot on mine.
79dbd7 No.503315
>>503312
Honestly not a huge fan, I needed something for coyote hunting in low light and it works, mostly. I prefer irons for everything in general, and I'm trying not to let it sour me for red dots as a whole. I've herd good things about EOTechs but Its hard to blow that much on a sight alone.
ae67c8 No.503316
>>503315
>I've herd good things about EOTechs but Its hard to blow that much on a sight alone
Yea they are really overpriced for what they are, and being a holographic sight their battery life is quite a bit less than conventional red dots.
I prefer red dots as I have issues with irons and magnified optics due to being slightly cross eye dominant. When I shoot handguns I tend to shift the gun over slightly and look down the sights with my left eye.
5e8f01 No.503423
>>503274
Looks like a meme. What's the point in setting up a full lever-action-style handguard if it's not actually lever-action?
0e791f No.503458
>>503423
Technically it is lever action. The lever actuates the breech. Done right, that's actually a very ergonomic and mechanically sound system. Done wrong they're clunky as fuck.
c6fe88 No.503459
>>503243
Yeah, I don't care too much about Demolition Ranch since he appeals to pre-teens in his videos, but his Hi Point one demonstrates pretty well how reliable it is.
2a2812 No.503465
>>503460
This probably won't help too much, but I have a 92 in 9mm and it's a pretty okay gun.
A little heavy for what it is, and the safety can be a pain in the ass sometimes (when it's on the hammer won't "sit" properly sometimes and you have to fuck with it a little (this might be a specific problem with mine that not many others have to deal with)), but it's really easy to field strip and clean, and the sights are pretty accurate and easy to get used to.
Really I think the safety is the biggest drawback. It's in an awkward spot already (which alone would turn some people off to it), and if you have the same problem as I do with the hammer then it can get kinda scary.
0e791f No.503471
>>503465
Beretta needs to just buckle down and make a 92 with a Taurus style safety.
70ee1a No.503518
Walther P.38 for CC?
t. no funs
a086cc No.503536
>>503518
Its better to use something you don't really have an attachment to for CC.
ae67c8 No.503545
>>503460
As >>503465 said its OK gun overall, the only issue with it is that since it was the goto Hollywood handgun for over a decade (maybe even more?) it can make people who like them come off as action movie wannabes/LARPers.
One thing that annoys me about the design though is the exposed trigger bar.
89e057 No.503547
>>503518
If you absolutely need to, get a Walther P1 since they're historically insignificant, because when anything of value is tossed into an evidence locker everyone and their dog gets a try leaving you with a heavily abused chunk of metal - IF you get it back.
70ee1a No.503657
>>503536
>>503547
Okay, got it, thanks :D
7849ef No.503822
9mm P320 Compact for EDC/training. Why not?
212c8c No.504012
>>488910
Here's the thing though: you can only make them so light.
energy = ½ x mass x velocity^2
and
momentum = mass x velocity
So, let's say that you've got a 2.6 kg gun (P90) firing a .0015 kg (5.7 x 28) bullet at 850 m/s. The energy of said bullet will be about 540 j and the momentum of the bullet will be 1.3 kgm/s.
The momentum of the gun will be equal and opposite to that of the bullet ("every action has an equal and opposite reaction"). By knowing the momentum of the gun (-1.3 kgm/s) and the mass of the gun (2.6 kg) the velocity can be calculated. The velocity of the gun will be -2 m/s. Therefore, the amount of kinetic energy from recoil that goes into the shooter is only 5.2 j.
Let's say, now, that you're firing that same P90 but you added a 7.4 kg block to it. The momentum will be the same when you fire it, but the recoil kinetic energy will be only .08 j.
The 5.7 x 28 is a poor example of this because of it's low mass and as a result, a lower energy-to-momentum ratio than most cartridges.
My point is, your gun being heavy is the main reason (apart from pressure) that shooting is so much different from being shot. Also, a heavier gun means less energy being diverted to recoil and more to the projectile.
e111e5 No.504026
>>503243
His editing and humor is fucking terrible, but Matt is actually a great guy.
I remember I looked into him ages ago and it turns out he's a veterinarian with several kids. He spends a lot of his time rehabilitating abandoned animals.
42fb06 No.504030
>>504026
>vet
>three Aryan children
>living the /k/ life
I hate him because I want to be him.
e111e5 No.504038
>>504030
I know that feel.
I truly and utterly envy his life.
d36170 No.504053
>>504026
He has a really shitty humor, a ranch, a loving familly, a shitload of guns, and a job that consists in saving animals lives and peoples days that he actually rocks at, and he do most of the important stuff in life life with his own hands (cf OffTheRanch).
He has more guns that the internet cared to list,
and he became famous by shooting a .50BMG at stuff "to see what happens".
He is my example in life, the man that gave me the inspiration to get back into the fight and make something out of my life.
He is what I think a true /k/ommando should look like. Shitload of guns, but family first and a job and a brain to fuel it all.
80cf69 No.504057
>>497631
Used 458 Lott on moose and bison, it's very effective. You won't shoot the Lott enough to get gud because it hurts like hell even with a brake.
Stick with the 9.3, it'll kill anything outside of niggerland.
e5855b No.504092
Thinking of getting the a Vortex Crossfire II Rimfire for my 10/22. Worth it? Any recommendations for the best way to mount it (ideally one that allows use of the irons with the scope on it)?
615291 No.504134
>>488066
It's a cowboy gun, literally no reason not to
afbf3c No.504155
>>504030
Vet is just a regular job, almost everyone can make children and shooting guns isn't rocket science either. Meanwhile I don't know if the most "simple" goal in my life is even possible at all, but I'm not whining. Stop being such a loser ffs.
ea32ff No.504157
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Chink copy of 870 for 300€. It look like bargain.
79dec1 No.504160
>>504157
They aren't bad, in fact they are better than new production Remmington 870s, but just be warned they aren't exactly smooth. Either put up with a rough action for a few thousand shells or take it apart and smooth it out with sandpaper, your choice. The Chinese made 870s are very popular here, but for 300€ thats even more than what we pay for them (and we get price gouged hard).
https://www.guncity.com/12ga-ranger-870-magnum-6-shot-ghost-ring-18.5-213899
61d1a4 No.504211
>>504160
300€ is cheaper then break action Izh shotguns here.
d90733 No.504240
>>487757
>IMPLYING I WOULD EVER TELL ANY WHITE CHRISTIAN NOT TO BUY ALL T3H FUNZ
GET FUKT, OP.
d90733 No.504242
>>504026
ARYAN WARRIOR
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3d298f No.504248
>>496485
Just get an SAA for fucks sake.
3d298f No.504249
Someone convince me not to get a Mini 14.
3d298f No.504250
>>504249
Idk why it's saying I'm a leaf. I'm in the US.
61d1a4 No.504251
>>504249
People say it's innacurate, but they are blasphemers
Jim Sullivan PBOH
e5855b No.504256
>>504249
Are you in a state that hates pistol grips?
>still using the same awful, expensive as fuck proprietary mags for no damn reason
>crappy optics mounting
>minimal acessories
>costs more than a decent AR15 will
>wood is nice I guess, but you can get wood furniture for an AR for less than a Mini-14
dd4ac7 No.504289
>>504240
Real christian friends don't let friends buy tavors.
a2c8ca No.504294
>>504250
don't you lie to me you fucking leaf.
225a8f No.504319
>>504249
Are you in a ban state?
If no, then get an AR, if yes then go for it.
79dec1 No.504325
>>504249
All the flaws of the M1 action, now in 5.56 with proprietary magazines!
Also this >>504256
7b02da No.504481
>>504289
>implying
Christians would love to have their friends buy tavors, uzis, and desert eagles. Christians love their greatest ally.
462db1 No.505473
>>496993
Update to this, I finally bought a NOS gen 1 from a local shop. All I can say is holy shit where has she been all my life? I didn't perform an exhaustive test, but right at 200 rounds down range this afternoon, three malfunctions in the first 150, smooth sailing after that. Accurate, less recoil than some .380's I've shot. I'm not going to say they're all good, but I'm really happy with it.
541d4d No.505574
>>488636
I have a FAL and I mildly regret not getting that one instead.
4c9376 No.505575
>>504249
Get an AR15, a M16A1 variant with a lower, more modern twist. Then get wooden furniture for it. Unless you're in a cucked state.
3d298f No.505740
>>495814
Because the Ishapore version shoot's .308
>Aus
Actually, you might be better off with a MkIII or No.4
3d298f No.505746
>>504319
>>504256
Yep, I'm in California.
3d298f No.505748
>>504294
Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
896566 No.505750
>>505748
Christ man, get the fuck out of there. Commiefornia is bad enough, but you're living in the worst shithole.
d9b531 No.505756
>>505748
nice try, leaf. I know your game.
0793db No.505763
>>505748
Gun laws there are even worse than Canada's. That's saying something.
53441d No.505770
Looking at the Remington 700 sps 308.
Probably going to add an aftermarket detachable magazine. But giver me reasons as to why not?
ffeba7 No.505772
>>505748
Well friend it looks like you're close should you tell me exactly where you live I can teach you how to get an unmolested AR also fuck big 5 and turners prices should you still go for it
771240 No.505995
>>487804
I fell for the Scout meme and liked it
cf80ef No.506013
>>487757
Thats like asking why you shouldnt go get laid. Yeah std risks. But sex.
There is litterally no reason not to get an M1 carbine. It does everything except give you a blowjob.
e1d577 No.506015
>>505995
Nothing wrong with scout rifles at all. Dependable bolt action rifles for hiking around the woods is always a nice thing to have. Is yours a 16in or 18in barrel?
771240 No.506017
>>506015
16.10 model, I'm surprised how much I love the rifle
7b02da No.508415
>still haven't gotten the hipoint because reluctant to spend any money and income situation has only improved from dire to "maybe I'll hear back in a month, he said so"
>price has gone up but is still below the "presale" price
>fucking almost $20 per mag
>cheapest ammo box is $13 for 20 rounds and that's only good for two mags including +1 in the chamber
>would have to downgrade to 9millimemeter water gun that's ironically more expensive as a gun than the .45ACP if you want a full size instead of compact to get semi-reasonable ammo prices but that's still a downgrade in power
Budget living is suffering.
879b5f No.508450
>>508415
Dude, go through buds. It's like $15 more, but you can use their layaway program. There's way cheaper .45 ammo out there, even if you don't order in case quantity.
Or wait until your second paycheck and pick up a K2 from CDNN.
cb6a3e No.508454
>>508415
outside of glock brand glock, ar-15, and g3 mags, mags arent cheap
7b02da No.508508
>>508450
>second paycheck
the situation is more of a "soon to apply for unemployment because I'm not getting shit"
35b01e No.508520
>>502515
how are the Beretta's to shoot? I recently got a Franchi Instinct L in 20 gauge and I love it, points so naturally
d92404 No.508534
>>508415
Hipoints are alright for what they are, I just wish they weren't single stack. I wouldn't want an HK handgun to end up in a evidence locker as it would disappear.
7b02da No.508551
>>508534
>evidence locker
I have no plans to commit any crimes with it, and I am an Idahoanon so I would hope if I need to use it in a self defense scenario it would not be some stupid "we're gonna take your property away because you shot Jamal when he was breaking into your apartment and trying to steal your expensive shit and he brought his gun along to 'persuade' you to give it up" scenario. My ID has probably changed because ISP/router dynamic IP, but I was earlier in the thread looking at an RIA 1911 because it's a 1911 that doesn't cost $2k just because of its name and "cowboy" Colt clone revolvers for range plinking before my former employer I hope the fucking company flops, gets bought out, otherwise goes out, the amount of fucking work and sacrifice I did for them and they do this? decided hiring Pajeet to save money was a better idea, so it really is a matter of budget. maybe I'm being autistic here
>>508450
The benefit of the shop I'm looking at (Impact Guns) is they have a shot semi-locally, just a maybe half-hour at most drive away, so I'd be able to pick it up more easily and it would probably be easier to get their online shop and brick-and-mortar shop to do the FFL etc. shit. Are you sure you don't mean $15 less? Maybe a sale just started but it looks cheaper at Bud's. Maybe I'll take a good look, I'm probably overthinking shit like I always do when it's a bigger/more important purchase than games and groceries.
e5855b No.511530
Brother is looking at CZ P-07+Kadet conversion for his first gun of his own. Thoughts?
b6862f No.511681
Hill and Mac Sturmgewehr 44 Sieg Heil!
09e1db No.511683
>>511681
Never ever. It's this generation's XCR or Shrike, except that Ares and Robinson at one point did deliver a physical product.
e853ef No.511693
>>511681
WTF is that second picture?
ec6568 No.511696
>>511681
>SMG STG
Yes the gun is awesome, and yes it's wonderful that someone is reproducing a historic firearm that is otherwise unobtainium. But from an entirely practical standpoint, there's no reason to own one. It doesn't do anything a $600 AR doesn't, and you're basically paying a $1200 premium to have a unique rangetoy.
b6862f No.511711
>>511696
Agreed. It is a luxury buy. I have the money. Its a totally subjective historic hobbyist type of cool for me to own it. I wouldn't buy it if I didn't have the other basics for survival and home defense first.
b6862f No.511712
>>511693
Its a quote from National Socialist demagogue named Richard Spencer. He invented KEK to counter Jewish Kabbalistic and Talmudic meme magic with Aryan meme magic.
b6862f No.511713
>>511683
You might be correct but, I hope you're wrong. The fatass himself gave hard ship dates for their production so now its not longer tentative. If they fuck up now they are done for forever. Link related https://www.youtu be.com/watch?v=tMMZDN55V-Y&t=1677s
e853ef No.511734
>>511712
Please stop being retarded, this guy is an ethnonationalist with ties to Israel, not natsoc in the least. He also didnt invent kek OR alt right, I was in the thread where altright was brainstormed. The fucker just registered a domain with the name.
74df44 No.511754
>>508508
sounds like you might just be best off saving that and being less of a welfare queen for the rest of us to support.
b6862f No.511770
>>511734
True hahaha you spotted the shitpost. After working directly with Spencer IRL and knowing that his wife is a Duginist and not even White its impossible that Spencer is an ethno Nationalist. He is a Duginist just like his wife.
35987b No.511785
>>503822
Might wanna swap out the trigger.
27a145 No.511787
>>487757
HCAR.
Talk me out of it. Because well, I have the money but it's like 3x Stgw 57…
064196 No.511788
09e1db No.511790
>>511787
>STGW 57
Get that. If you really want a BAR then I'd try to find an FN-D, Colt Monitor, or Swede M37.
630313 No.511794
>>511787
I will admit, it's not as bad as the standard BAR and they did lighten the load. But it's still a BAR, and a semi-auto one at that. Chunky, overweight, and severely outdated.
It's something that the USMC would adopt today in a heartbeat if it were select-fire.
dd4ac7 No.511812
>>511787
Just get literally any other new battle rifle and save the cash for optics or ammo.
buy machinery and learn to make full auto parts for your guns
79dec1 No.511999
629e75 No.512002
>>511754
>welfare queen
Go fuck yourself kid.
>bills, loans to pay
>looking for job but can't find one
>waiting on response from the one place that paid attention to your well-qualified resume
<but it's welfare queen to not magically get a new job right away because uncle Mordecai used nepotism powers to get you in
Isn't that meme term used by faggots specifically to shit on military veterans anyway?
d07e32 No.512004
with the leather wood M-1200 6-24X50. heard some mixed reviews on the glass.
Whats the word about armalite?
490a7a No.512038
Tell me I shouldn't. Talk me down, /k/.
latest nutnfancy upload is nonstop shilling for this, but it does indeed look neat.
81a2a4 No.512078
d92404 No.512082
630313 No.512088
>>512038
It's a Turk gun, but they're already getting funded by other sources so don't feel bad about buying one.
629e75 No.512200
c40e8d No.512210
>>487932
Had a Russian one years ago and pawned it like an idiot because I was broke. Still have about 400 rounds of ammo.
Never jammed, accurate enough and sturdy. Get one if you have the chance. Ammo is easier to come by these days too.
614fcc No.515638
For around 350 euro shekels I could not resist.
371d6a No.515640
>>515638
very nice
now make a new bolt and prepare for the purge
614fcc No.515645
>>515640
I dont really need to. I think it has just welded in pin into trigger assembly that blocks selector so it can't go into full auto position. But I seen whole trigger group for 50€ on german site. I need ground off stick mag, too tight fitting. Needed to stand on PPSh and pull out mag. Drum mag will propably need fitting too, as magazines are not from this gun. I'm going to buy surplus ammo this week and test it.
371d6a No.515647
>>515645
>surplus ammo
How easy is it to get?
614fcc No.515650
>>515647
Dried out, hard to get.
9f5dc4 No.515659
>>515650
Can you get 5.56 and reloading stuff?
614fcc No.515661
>>515659
If I buy 5.56 gun, why not? But I don't have enaugh cash to invest in reloading tools now.
9f5dc4 No.515664
>>515661
5.56 brass can be made into tokarev brass easily. You don't even need to buy it if you hang around a public range with a broom and dustpan.
70e254 No.515906
>>515648
plz god tell me you have more and are willing to share
cz 75
aug or anything bullpup
anything
7fefba No.516291
What are /k/'s thoughts on the Walther PPS for first CCW? It looks comfy.
1e17e7 No.516302
>>515906
Nein, I don't think there are any machine plans for either of those, the bullpup ones would be of no use to you if you're looking to make something. I'll have to see if I have my Mp-28/34/40/41 plans on my server if those interest you. I might even have one for converting browning style pistols (1911, Tokerev's etc) to full giggle mode, its been a long while since I've gone through my library.
3b2bfb No.516333
>>516291
It is very comfy. Been carrying one AIWB in a tulster holster. Have around 600 rounds through it so far, no problems.
There have been some reports of the trigger bar rubbing on the barrel / chamber. Seems to be only cosmetic, if it happens at all.
a64eed No.516504
>>504030
Don't hate your Aryan brother, fam. He has his shit together and a beautiful wife, see his success and be inspired by it to create your own.
He has three kids, so you have six! Don't be like the fat beer-drinking slob in the image in >>504038
a76103 No.516876
fa177a No.516880
>>516876
Has all the negative quirks of the SMLE as well as the downsides of being a surplus rifle chambered in 7.62x51 - used heavily and put away dry and uncared for.
If you were in the US I'd recommend against it because someone surely has stuffed the bolt up his own asshole due to it being a low-cost rifle, but since guns are expensive down under you should be fine.
If it's been sporterized it's still not too bad a choice, but don't expect extreme accuracy. They had a very bizarre way of accurizing the SMLE with the stock, so removing half of it throws it all to the wind and relies on luck.
1e17e7 No.516897
>>516876
>>516880
The only upside of the Ishapores is they won't bend themselves out of shape causing headspacing issues down the road later on like every other Enfield. Find someone who knows how to check and potentially fix the goofy headspacing of it or your brass is going to come out funny looking.
7f0570 No.519611
>>504053
He's a true inspiration to us all.
a14fa2 No.520058
I feel like I shouldn't even think about saving my pennies for this, but I have the strangest erection right now…