Christian-Muslim Alliance Against Modernism

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Christian-Muslim Alliance Against Modernism عبد الله 04/26/17 (Wed) 22:48:20 6ad6da No.20452

So there was a thread on /christian/ about Muslims and Xtians uniting on common values, like opposing liberals who want to encourage moral degradation, abortion, LGBT+ trash culture, and so on. They seemed to reject the idea out of hand on the basis that they didn't think Muslims, even though they're Abrahamic, were allies because they didn't accept Jesus as God. Also stuff like how Muslims treat Middle Eastern Christians like the Copts.

What's your lot's take on that proposition? Could the Abrahamists all come together and work against modernism? Could there be parity between you all in a society, rather than constant fighting between Jews, Muslims and Christians? You all worship the same God.

عبد الله 04/26/17 (Wed) 22:51:21 6ad6da No.20453

Oh and all the hostile, aggressive wars waged by Muslims on Christian nations over the years. They weren't keen on that either.

عبد الله 04/26/17 (Wed) 23:32:48 6ad6da No.20454

>>20452

O you who have believed, do not take the Jews and the Christians as allies. They are [in fact] allies of one another. And whoever is an ally to them among you - then indeed, he is [one] of them. Indeed, Allah guides not the wrongdoing people. [5:51]

عبد الله 04/27/17 (Thu) 00:04:02 6ad6da No.20456

>>20454

Hmm. There's basically this exact quote in the Bible for Christians to reject all non-believers as well.

Christians say that Muslims and Jews are allied together against Christians. Really gets that noggin joggin'.

عبد الله 04/27/17 (Thu) 00:13:36 6ad6da No.20459

>>20456

There are no quotes from the Christian bible about Muslims, though there are those who believe that Islam was created by the Catholic Church as an army against Jews.

The difference is, of course, that we are not to take Jews and Christians as allies. That doesn't mean we can't treat them with kindness and respect. I can tip my hat and say hello to someone, but that doesn't make them my ally.

عبد الله 04/27/17 (Thu) 00:22:32 6ad6da No.20460

>>20459

Yeah I didn't say there were, I said non-believers. Muslims are non-believers in the divinity of Christ.

عبد الله 04/27/17 (Thu) 01:40:23 6ad6da No.20461

>>20459

>though there are those who believe that Islam was created by the Catholic Church as an army against Jews

only an extremely retard tiny minority believe this

>>20454

Talmudists aren't my allies

>>20452

>Molymeme

Wasn't expecting this here, but this is pretty funny

عبد الله 04/27/17 (Thu) 01:54:16 6ad6da No.20462

>>20452

im all for it as a muslim

عبد الله 04/30/17 (Sun) 16:40:06 6ad6da No.20511

Fundamentally, from the perspective of Christianity the Jews are supposed to convert as their messiah has arrived. And from the perspective of Islam the other two kinds should be converting.

Because they have not converted, they are either ignorant or non believers.

How can non-believers join together?

We can discuss the degree of alliance but there will never be "uniting" for unification means everyone is Muslim.

Or Bahai, as there are next steps still that people claim

عبد الله 05/10/17 (Wed) 02:14:46 c93d5a No.20663

>>20452

In principle yes, but I know the type of people these types of movements usually attract and the tactics they use, and I don't think they are a good thing.

In Islam the ends never justify the means.

Plus you're fighting a tide that you can never stop with a token fringe movement.

The source of the problem will still be there.

>>20459

But Prophet Muhammad S.A.W literally did take Christians and Jews as allies, as we understand the word ally.

"Allies" in the context of that excerpt means "overlords".

عبد الله 05/24/17 (Wed) 12:16:23 658dd2 No.20811

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Christians today can't even control themselves, their institution of marriage, their children, their women, their zionist empire and military industrial complex. And most troubling of all, white christians, especially the nazi ones on the internet, hate other christians of different races. So if these people detest christians of other races why should we want or even expect an "alliance" with them?

عبد الله 05/24/17 (Wed) 12:20:01 658dd2 No.20813

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Saging this thread due to massive samefagging.

عبد الله 05/24/17 (Wed) 16:01:37 fb3465 No.20824

>>20813

It looks like that because 8chan was hacked a while back and IDs became all the same in older threads. >>20591

عبد الله 06/07/17 (Wed) 17:41:53 036671 No.21095

>>20811

As long as western liberalism exists, things will always be that way. Westeners need to get rid of it. Thinking that a part of us like being aware that their governments put them at risk of wars for the sake of dominance is absurd.

When the West tells you we live in a democracy, do not even believe them. We live under a financial oligarchy that distracts its citizens with panem et circenses while our future is being sacked. We fell prey to the monster we created, and now you see the results: low self control, absent morality, search of lost Identity through hatred of others.

In response to that pic, I can tell you there won't be anywhere left to decolonize but the west itself from liberalisms; the Decline is imminent and seeing us as a threat or an ally serves no purpose anymore. The fucks who mistreated you will just move base to the next financial centre and leave us rotting. Just don't fall for our same bs.

عبد الله 03/22/18 (Thu) 23:25:51 caff76 No.27382

>Shamelessly samefagging in current year

عبد الله 09/08/18 (Sat) 09:45:21 77a3f7 No.30621

>>20452

>Christians and Muslims uniting on common values

Islam is literally the fulfilled version of Christianity. Islam to Christianity is like what Christianity is to Judaism.

If Christians were to ally with us they may as well just convert to Islam (I am a former Christisn too.) Most of them are too stuck up to even think of the Qurán as being the final Gospel