/hypno/ - Hypnochan

Hey B4mb1, what’s your favorite file and why?

>>40747

im torn between cockslut and pleasure toy

need more cum files!

>>40739

u fukt up lmao

>>40747

Mindlocked I looove it =)

>>40748

the new stuff is gonna be so good mmmm

>>40750

Totes agree! Cum is great~

>ywn be turned into a pleasure hole for all the boys use

;-;

>>40751

Yeah, tried my best to fix it posting links in the duplicate threads. Reported them so they should get pruned sooner or later.

I made the thread, hit reply, then it stuck on whatever the new post button changes to - before attempting another post I went and checked the catalogue - did this twice - then all 3 threads appeared at once. I guess it's just a learning curve with 8ch - next time I'll wait more than a couple of minutes, and save the passwords so I can delete the dupes, if they happen.

>>40747

I fell in love with Designer Pleasure Puppet, specifically for its trigger use within the set. I definitely felt the most physical effects from this file compared to the majority of the the other collections. Although Oblivion was the only file to effect me more.

>>40739

Is this thing reversable?

>>40801

Yeah, if you commit. Cut yourself off from this stuff 100%. You gotta purge it all, and not give in to relapsing. If you can do that, you’ll be fine. I know V1v3 put out an excellent Deep Clean file to help shake it off. Hypnosis can’t scar your brain for life on its own.

>>40801

>>40802

F1ona Cl3arwater also has a good hypno reset file if necessary. It worked on me perfectly.

>>40802

Although one should mention that the effectiveness of cleaning files is debatable.

>>40801

The "hardest" thing to escape are the addiction suggestions (assuming they work on you). As long as you feel or know, that you don't have a hard time fighting addictive behavior and generally have good self control, there is really not much to be concerned about. Also avoid the takeover and oblivion tracks at first as they are geared more towards hardcore B4mb1 lovers.

I started listening to 1,2,3,10. Should I listen to it only once a day, or can I listen to it as many times as I want?

These files along with K31's have definitely been helpful in me sort of confirming my gender identity.

I've also had none of the tulpa or split personality effects some others have had. In the end, this stuff is all about how your mind processes and makes it out. Some might take everything said in the files as complete fact and follow every suggestion, but for me they basically have just worked to confirm my desire to be female and influenced my speech patterns to be a bit more valley girl like.

>>40804

Their effectiveness is comparable to the effectiveness of any other hypnosis file lol, you just have to believe in it.

>>40820

you can listen up to three times a day, even more if you have zero headaches.

>>40827

While the same principles, conditions and limitations apply to cleaning files as well as any other kind of hypnosis, you cannot break long term conditioned behavior coupled with an induced addiction with just a single listening session to a cleaning file, because of said limitations.

It can take an even longer time to get rid of a behavior than to learn it in the first place.

All a well done cleaning file can do, is to make you more aware of your behavior to give you the chance to remedy it. A single hypnosis session most likely cannot influence you permanently, but a lot of hypnosis can. The same is true for reversing hypnosis.

If erasing a behavior was this easy, all anti smoking hypnotist would swim in money.

Man, how fucked up do you have to be to get into this shit.

>>40833

so you mean, if someone listens to B4mb1 playlists every day for like 3 months, and is profoundly affected by the content… it would be basically impossible to remove?

>>40834

You’d be surprised, a little repression goes a long way.

>>40835

First of all, if one didn't like the content one would hardly listen for three months straight.

Secondly one is not affected against one's strong belief.

If one still were to listen and be affected fully, then it might take the same time frame or longer to alleviate the effects, as long as one were still liking the effects although finding them inconvenient. It could also happen faster, but don't count on it.

>>40833

Sure, but I don’t think it was ever specified to listen to the clean file just once. With repeated listens, in the same way the person conditioned themselves in the first place, I see no reason why that wouldn’t work.

>>40842

Assuming one would be as comfortable with the clean file hypnotist as with the original one and continue listening to the clean file even without the additional sexual incentive that might certainly help, but I still doubt that it is necessary as the symptoms of the hypnosis fade over time anyway as long as one doesn't refresh them and one still needs the willpower to break the habit of listening to the original.

tl;dr

A clean file can help but you should still be very sure before trying the original hypnosis, that you can cope with it without one. Don't rely on any single method of rescue!

how long should I listen to the original conditioning files before moving on to the newer stuff? I really want to feel the newer files' power

>>40859

when the amnesia works and when all triggers are working too, you're good to go.

>First of all, if one didn't like the content one would hardly listen for three months straight.

Haha, those people totally don't want to become girls haha. They don't want to suck cocks dude lmao. They especially don't want to do stereotypically female things aha.

It's a shame because this is the logic I've heard from listeners before.

>muh addiction triggers

You knew exactly what you were getting into and some part of you that you refuse to acknowledge wanted everything that happens. The only thing that approaches the people exaggerating effects in terms of silliness is the people claiming they were never interested and didn't want any of the effects.

>>40881

>the people claiming they were never interested and didn't want any of the effects.

Of course they didn't. Who would?

best playlist?

>>40894

if you're a total beginner, simply go for:

123 10 from bimbodoll conditioning

Then, the ten files from bimbodoll conditioning.

Then the five files from the fuckdoll brainwash playlist.

if you have experience with B4mb1 and want to be her forever, then I'd say:

01 Blank Mindless Doll

02 Fake Horny Fuckpuppet

03 Designer Pleasure Puppet

04 B4mb1 Takeover

04 Vain Horny Happy

05 Bimbo Fuckpuppet Oblivion

06 Mindlocked Cock Zombie

07 Bimbo Drift

>Decided to give it a shot

>Played the complete conditioning playlist

>Blank mind

>Hfo on the first time listening to this hypnotist

I think I might have enjoyed it more than I should have.

>>40929

Welcome to the cult ;)

>>40929

You should get a uniform to trance better and get into it more

>>40939

>ENTP

>training since June 2017

I’m curious as to what sorta theory you have~

>>40939

i'm INTP/INTJ, every time

people should also post how susceptible they feel they are to suggestion - i feel relatively insensitive, i guess why i want the most extreme stuff possible

>>40939

>INTJ

Guessing I'm in the minority by a far margin, but then again, I'm not too heavy into this.

>>40940

Just some patterns I've noticed, all the way back even when newfapchan wasn't shit, on their /girly/ and /hypno/ boards. The types of people seeking this type of content.

>>40939

>I want to explore a theory of mine in regards to the types of people most likely to get into this type of content like B4mb1 sleep files, etc.

Ha! I'm also very interested. I think, most of hypnophiles are intuitive people, but that's about it.

OTOH, MBTI and socionics (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socionics) tests are not reliable AT ALL and mostly discredited. Currently there are no trustworthy typology tests, and one person can be "assigned" any arbitrary type by different "experts" with little correlation.

I'm ENTP, BTW.

this stuff has ruined other hypnosis files for me

they're all trash in comparison

>>40939

ENTP. You might be on to something.

>tfw don't have the money or privacy for a uniform

I hope there's more content that doesn't rely upon uniforms coming soon.

>>40939

INFP, probably the worst type.

I listened to the first batch of files back when it came out and nearly had a hfo but I haven't been following since then. I'm interested if there's anyone who has an "hfo focused" playlist for me.

It seems NTP/J is a common pattern. I'm INTP.

does b4mbi have any files that are non sissy, non-humilation?

>>40967

Yeah, all of them.

>>40959

Can I suggest that the "uniform" doesn't have to necessarily appear feminine? Although it's certainly great if it's panties and lingerie, but maybe it can be something that you associate as being B4mb1's. Maybe single out a pair of boxers as B4mb1's, or wear a string or band around your wrist, or wear an androgynous necklace when you listen. Something that YOU know what it means, but no one else would.

>>40967

They're all transformation, none are sissy at all, none are straight up humiliation either.

>>40939

Any correlation you get is probably due to imageboard uses being extremely biased to certain MBTI-types.

>>40968

Actually I tried out a few of the files in the bimbodoll conditioning series last night. Kind of got knocked out of trance when the file mentioned sucking sock, since I'm straight and couldn't hypnotize myself to do it, even if I wanted to.

Now I understand why this board makes a big fuss over b4mbi stuff, because it's a damn good induction and really fun.

>>40797

>You're not forced to do anything. And no a relapse isn't going to suddenly change who you are or impede on any progress you've made. It won't force you to do anything you don't want. So why stress yourselves so much? Fine, you might have an addiction and you freak out when you dabble with it every now and then. If you can't do it moderately and have fun, then just delete it and move on.

This was exactly my mindset up until people started talking about tulpas and DID from listening to B4mb1 sleep and that really spooked me. And now I don't know what to believe anymore.

>Those who say like you that its harmless and your in control and its just fantasy and people are just pretending when they claim strong effects and even tulpas - that tulpas are bullshit as I've believed before.

>Or those who claim that B4mb1 is "real" and its not just pretend and the repeated listening and conditioning does lead to a tulpa or DID like situation before they even realize it happening.

The latter is arousing but scary at the same time, no one wants mental illness just from indulging in hypno for escapism/pleasure purposes once in a while, but that seems to be where the files are leading going by those people on the discord, those talking about the "B4mb1 cult" etc...

>I don't understand you people. If you don't like the file content or it is unhealthy for you in anyway and you continue to recognise that.. Then why would you go listen to the file that you, yourself do not want and wracking your brain over whether you are affected by an audio file you willingly listen to.

Do you not understand how addicting the file is because of the voice used, the professional quality, the taboo and arousing content of it all, and do you not understand how addiction works in the first place? Its not as easy as "just stop listening lol". Just like its not as easy as "just stop fapping lol".

Im now on week 6 or 7,

I've actually had a few new developments and experiences with the b4mb1 files, I was going to stop around week 4 but I decided to keep going because it sorta became too much fun

Firstly I no longer have my journal to keep track of trigger words and my thoughts post session. Once I've finished a session it became increasingly harder to get myself to write things down, until one day I just threw it away. In retrospect this was a bad thing to happen because the work and notes I've made over the weeks feel like they were for nothing, and its become harder to keep track of what i actually can't remember.

Another problem is this issue where post session it feels like my head is filled with cotton, making it hard to keep track and focus, in this state I've done stupid things like order toys and clothes. When I am clear minded these things seem useless to me but once the hypnotism begins they feel great to play with, without even realising it a buttplug has made its way into my uniform.

I've also become more passive and submissive, this is not how I usually act and these brief moments of self realization really blows me away, I've not become a different person but I have changed.

B4mb1 sleep now causes this sinking feeling in my chest, other trigger words have yet to have any real effects

Also I have to admit to thinking other men's junk often, any moment I day dream it's the first thing I think about

I'm going to keep doing it everyday, maybe bump it up to 3 times to see if I can get more changes to my personality or feelings

>>40982

same person again here, just wanted to put some thoughts out and ask about some stuff:

so, since I really loved the style of induction from the conditioning series, but as a straight person, would listening to this file likely be dangerous?

ive listened to files before that have mentioned having thoughts about sucking cock and/or other gay/sissy stuff, but never actually altered my desires, especially not out of hypnosis.

i enjoy feminization and crossdressing in a hypnotic context, but nothing more. even when i would be hypnotized to be a girl, im still "straight" in the sense that im still attracted to other women, and not interested in males.

so, as you can see, finding quality hypnotic files is quite difficult for me, and that's not even factoring in that i have very bad adhd and struggle trancing to a lot of hypnotists' voices. i hope im wrong, but right now it feels like being a hetero male makes me a minority within the hypnofetish population.

but then again, i suppose there could be other reasons why sissification/bimbotization files are so popular in the community. for example, i feel like there's a lot of people out there having trans thoughts, or want to transition someday, but (for example) could be afraid to come out, and therefore turn to hypnosis. it's extremely fun, you can be perfectly silent, and it's a drug that doesn't really cost anything (at least for most people), etc. plus, it's incredibly relaxing and you can be lazy as shit while doing it, too. very easy to keep a total secret from anyone you know, and without leaving a trace behind, either.

while i've never truly and completely 100% lost all of my control while trancing for the majority of a file (ive done it before, but i kind of fall back to 90% or whatever soon enough), i would definitely think others on here have (for example, experiencing total amnesia on a recording, etc). i envy the living shit out of those people for that, because i cant imagine how good that must feel, because at that point hypnosis basically becomes an even better version of lucid dreaming, but it doesn't stop.

so, finally, i think that's the big reason why a lot of people on here are into bimbo/trans stuff, correct me if im wrong?

TL;DR: i listened to a few b4mbi conditioning files, loved the induction, but as a straight male im cautious approaching these files. will i still be able to listen to the files without having my actual thoughts on sexuality (outside of trance) altered?

(also haven't slept in a very long time, so inb4 grammar police)

>>40984

Thanks very much for your input and dedication, but please don't spend an excessive amount of time on this.

Three times a day for over an hour seems like a substantial amount of time. Also make sure that the effort is worth it, especially if you start spending money on things you wouldn't normally have bought.

Otherwise have fun!

>>40986

Your perception that straight people are in the minority here is likely based on the fact that straight anons usually don't express their sexual orientation as it's sort of the default while transitioning or otherwise different orientations tend to associate their consumption of said content with their sexual identity and therefore incorporate this information more often.

As for the healthiness part, numerous gay conversion therapies over centuries have shown that you cannot change a sexual orientation that is not fluent (bisexual people in repressive systems usually focus on straight relationships).

The only thing this may lead to is psychological problems such as depression.

If you have bisexual tendencies however this hypnosis might strengthen them (without affecting straight attraction that is, as this is not explicitly mentioned).

Also the effects of hypnosis (ie strengthened attraction) fade over time after you stopped listening. So as long as you don't get depressive over your fetish, it should be perfectly safe.

>>40986

"Hey guys, I'm straight and want to stay straight. Should I listen to these very powerful hypnosis files which are designed to permanently brainwash me into becoming a cum-whore whose only purpose is to be used as a fuckdoll by men?"

What are you, fucking stupid? Listen to the files, idiot. You deserve everything you get.

>>40982

>sucking sock

Those B4mb1 files are even weirder than I thought.

>>40982

>>40986

The files were created to be gender and sexuality-neutral in mind. You can still like sucking cock, but still be straight. For example, you can get off to sucking dildos or getting fucked by your gf's strapon.

>>40993

Honestly, 'hypnosis cant make you do something which you dont want to do' seems pretty wrong to me.

I am no hypno master nor an expert in psychology etc., but you cannot negate the effect marketing/advertisement has had on people in last few decades in increasing consumerism.. also nobody thought they WANTED an i-phone before Steve Jobs gave it to them..

you might think I am digressing, but what I am trying to do is stress that brain is very complex and powerful, we dont know an ounce of its working, so many things are possible and who knows it might be possible to twist brain by so many methods.

>>40996

Hypnosis can do anything that could be done without it and can be significantly faster at it, provided that the subject trusts the hypnotist and does not directly object any information presented, because that would break the trance or would be subconsciously ignored. If you provide conclusive evidence or a lot of propaganda you might change someones opinion or even their personality but not their sexual orientation. That is basically set in stone by genetic lottery. It might be fluent or complex but you cannot fundamentally change it. Enough people have tried though; even with "a lot of propaganda".

>>40996

jobs didn't give them the iphone, each individual consumer made the decision to go out and purchase it.

>>40991

>>40986

honestly it should be relatively safe. There's rarely mention of men (mostly just anonymous cocks) and it's always tied to when wearing uniform.

>>40997

>because that would break the trance or would be subconsciously ignored.

So I'm correct in assuming that when parts of the files talk about bypassing the subconscious or subverting it or whatever that that's actually not happening and the subconscious is not being affected as much as the file suggests?

>>41003

In a medical sense there is no clear definition of a subconscious instance. What is true, is that anything that is blatantly wrong to you, will be met with the same disgust/fear that you would naturally feel. Both of those feelings are very deeply anchored in the human mind and not easily ignored (try fighting an unreasonable fear). They also don't exactly add to a deep trance or even just relaxation. That is kind of a self-defense mechanism of your mind.

It can however be subverted by intelligent convincing persuasion. Not by saying something does so but actually doing it.

Take tv perfume ads as an example. There is literally nothing descriptive of the actual product in there (earthy/fresh/flowery/… smell). Smell cannot be conveyed over TV and advertisers typically don't even try. Instead the ad depicts a scene which incites desire, coolness or similar strong feelings in the viewer which is then transferred to the product or even just the brand at the very end. In most cases the scene isn't even representative of the kind of smell that is advertised. Still if people weren't falling for this no one would spend the money and they obviously do.

Very similar concepts are used in many types of manipulation techniques including hypnosis if the goal is to alter the subject's perception of something.

That doesn't mean that this is a surefire way to alter someone's mind but a way better option to try than "advertising" something as being subversive.

>>41007

And this is also how addiction is typically generated in hypnosis.

A feeling of well-being and sexual excitement is created and repeatedly linked to the trigger words, the hypnotist('s voice) and the session being listened to.

If the addiction works on you, the strength and duration are good indicators of how heavily proper use of this concept may influence you.

>>41008

>If the addiction works on you, the strength and duration are good indicators of how heavily proper use of this concept may influence you.

Pretty hot anon

>>41007

>>41008

I see, thanks for clearing that up for me anon.

>A feeling of well-being and sexual excitement is created and repeatedly linked to the trigger words, the hypnotist('s voice) and the session being listened to.

Indeed I've experienced this. When just randomly going about my day and in my monkey mind pops in some phrases from B4mb1 sleep that I heard the day before and can feel that arousal and instant urge to listen to the files I can see how the addiction can be maintained.

But well for me if I go for too long listening to these files to the point I can remember everything then they don't feel exciting/arousing anymore and I tend to take some few months breaks to forget some stuff and come back to them with some measure of novelty retained.

How long have you been conditioning yourself for? Post your,

>Time committed to conditioning

>Files not used

>Uniform

also, /r/ing remaining scripts on pastebin

>>40986

> really loved the style of induction … would listening to this file likely be dangerous?

Just the induction? Only track 1? If the scripts from pastebin are correct, no, although it does set a rapid re-induction trigger "bimbo doll". The original of that induction used "hypno fun" in the same way. It's the "Lutz Bubble Induction" btw.

> listen to the files without having my actual thoughts on sexuality (outside of trance) altered?

Maybe, if you are particularly resistant to suggestion. I wouldn't recommend making regular use of these files unless you really do want to become a trans zombie bimbo.

>>40991

Try reading. He also asked specifically about the induction.

>>40993

> "hypnos can't make you do anything you don't want to do"

> So which one is right here?

Both. Hypnosis can't make you do anything you strongly oppose. You'll snap out of trance at the attempt. Hypnosis can however, over time, change what you want.

>>40996

You've given examples of changing what people want.

>>41011

> too long listening to these files to the point I can remember everything

Then the amnesia suggestions don't work properly on you. That's probably a good thing.

>>41049

The amnesia suggestion is just an extension of what happens naturally when you trance throughout the day. Have you ever locked a door or washed your hands or done anything repeatedly and couldn't remember directly afterwards that you did so. Then your mind has automated this behavior passing it by your conscious mind in a sort of momentary trance with an implicit amnesia.

Something similar happens when you forget your dreams directly after waking up.

Maybe your mind is healthy defensive if such suggestion is coming from someone else, but your mind has everything it takes to make happen.

>>41050

Yeah I can recall tons of examples like that, most significantly checking if the door is locked and then literally fucking a minute later not remembering if it was checked or not even though I know I fucking checked and having to go back and check again that it is locked

Yeah thats more to do with my OCD but I can confirm that many examples like that have happened but I can't recall a single time that I actually had anything like that happen when listening to hypno, where I would take off my headphones and feel completely blank as to the content of the session instead of pretty much remembering everything and the more I listen the more I remember.

So are you saying I was never even in deep enough trance to let that kind of amnesia happen? Even if I thought I was "trancing" I actually wasn't?

>>41053

Your mind can selectively pass some suggestions and ignore others. Amnesia is a fairly complex suggestion to trigger externally while "feeling good" and a hint of addiction directly afterwards is easier.

I cannot say if you are deep enough because you might just resist that type of suggestion even when you are in a very deep trance or maybe your mind isn't trusting the session barely enough to pass it.

The mind is sadly not as black and white and not working the same across the board.

Also there is a difference between simply forgetting and resisting active attempts to remember. If you test the amnesia suggestion directly afterwards you have a bigger chance of breaking it.

At least that is how I understand it, as I have a hard time trancing very deeply as well.

>>41062

>l why this fetish is acquired and this content sought out by those who don't necessarily have any proclivities towards trans stuff

Note I'm not saying that applies to everyone who listens to this stuff or has this fetish of course.

>>41062

I think that makes sense for at least a small part of the audience. As a computer scientist that relies on critical thinking in my day-to-day life, before I got into the B4mb1 series I already enjoyed femdom files about getting dumb and losing my will. I personally see it as an escapism of my anxiety and other problems.

For me the feminization aspect is exciting because I am very submissive, but when out of trance I don't really think about being a girl or feel attracted to men at all.

As for the reason I prefer B4mb1 over femdom hypnotists with similar themes it's probably because the femdom ones also usually include findom, which really turns me off for some reason.

>>41072

I get what you mean by self destruction. My progress with erotic hypnosis was somewhat similar:

>vanilla (F10n4, IV's jackpot, N1kk1)

>gentle female domination

>humiliation themes (cuckold, premature ejaculation, impotence, penis shrinking)

>brainwash/feminization (erase of self/loss of willpower/being turned into an puppet)

I listened to k3i's demon girls file too, which I think is similar to b4mb1 but less addictive.

>>41071

>before I got into the B4mb1 series I already enjoyed femdom files about getting dumb and losing my will

What are some good files in this theme? I've been hooked on Datura's Dumb 4 Duchess for a while and crave for more IQ reducing hypnosis. I know I am already dumb for getting of at this fucked up thing but I need to be dumber. Sadly feminization stuff like B4mb1 is not really my thing.

>>41079

From the ones I've listened more recently I particularly enjoyed 4nonym1stress' loopy series and ob1ivion, ob1ivion r3dux and r3tromi$$ion from e11echemy.

>>41082

Do you happen to have the links to those files?

>>41084

I grabbed the e11echemy ones from this link in another thread: >>40376

>>41079

Try V1v3's "Dumbing Down" series. >>39501 suggests that it is effective.

>>41085

Anon are you me??

I started with hentai and futas as well. after a long time with basically 2d porn i needed something different and stronger and eventually came across hypnos.

i will say even as a young kid i remember doing weird perverted things with barbies etc.. and was always interested in girl clothes. stumbling on IV's voice and MsJ was an unforgettable peak..

As ive gone deeper with hypnos i was able to filter out the themes and "artists" i dont like, but what helped me do it was looking back into my childhood looking for the possible "triggers" that finally got me here. essentially theres a few stages of hypnos: exploration (trying out new files with themes that are different than you usually like), and hypnos that resound with your "fetish" or likes which come directly from life experiences.

>>40904

Firsttimer here. None of those files are on the website anymore? Where else can I find.

>>41122

>remember doing weird perverted things with barbies etc.. and was always interested in girl clothes

I'm different in that I never had those thoughts or experiences, cross-dressing never even crossed my mind until exposure to it on /d/, so yeah 2D first, then many years later 3D, traps on /b/, etc.. slow and gradual progression as the porn tastes change and evolve I guess.

But yeah the fact that it wasn't till porn that I even began dabbling into this stuff, and pretty sure that listening to hypnos about these themes especially helped me to gradually get into it more I guess. But that means that its entirely porn acquired I guess, as far as I can tell.

>>41148

All the files and more are available on the B4mb1 Discord ;)

>>40983

I'm just going to say this, you cant give yourself DID, that is something that exclusively forms as a result of extreme trauma at an early age that fractions your personality. You can however accidentally give yourself a tulpa, but you can also get rid of that tulpa, you have no attachment to it, so just fucking kill it.

>>41148

they're all on the website.

>>41154

About the tulpa thing, I'm still not certain where to stand with that. Is it an actual thing you can have happen or is it just delusions and people playing pretend but they get too far into it, yet constantly listening to the files and their "training" or brainwashing reinforces the delusions and fantasy that its a real thing.

Admittedly I don't know much because I avoided even learning about the topic because it never interested me.

>>41154

"you can also get rid of that tulpa, you have no attachment to it"

LOL

At first i didn't feel anything in my body but felt entranced by the female voices. (n1kk1 etc), within a couple days my body felt addicted and the voices went to the background with much more focus on the vibrations in my body. Then I tried a HFO JOI which was waay too stimulating for my brain (it felt like it was being squashed by an inaudible sound).

Now it feels like the whole trance part is bullshit and that it's just inaudible tones that make certain parts of the body contract and interfere with your breathing patterns, making it either more difficult to breath in or more difficult to breath out, faking going "deeper" while simultaniously slowing down your breathing by till you hit like 1 inhale per minute.

How much research has been done on these inaudible tones and how dangerous are they for for example your heart and bloodvessels.

Addition: These tone induced muscular or vascular vibrations seem to resonate for at least a day and i'm noticing now that i'm sensitive to these tones that alot of porn has them.

>41243

Yeah no.

>>41252

nice one

tbh there's not alot of actual information in this forum just confused adolescents screaming they want cock

>>41243

Inaudible tones lol. The encoding on these files is barely good enough to encompass the audible frequency spectrum, never mind your heart-exploding imaginary sex sounds.

>>41255

s://www.zenlama.com/the-beginners-guide-to-binaural-beats-brainwave-entrainment/

s://www.self-hypnosis-the-key.com/binaural-beats.html

p://www.usa-anti-communist.com/ard/pdf/Silent_Sound_Mind_Control_Explained.pdf

>>41256

So you're telling me that N1kk1 F4t4|3 infected your brain using secret messages encoded into high-frequency carrier waves?

>>41261

lol

I guess that's what he is implying.

>>41256

Happy to break it to you. There is no actual worthy medical study that has been able to verify the validity of this bullshit especially the last one doesn't seem to pay any attention to psychoacoustics, which effectively falsify the possibility of this working.

Here is a proper assessment of the most recent meta study that I found and that tried to collect different other studies to build some remote medical evidence for the brain wave audio theories which wasn't even really successful in itself, suggesting further research was needed.

[Basically their methodology seemed skewed towards providing proof of this concept instead of critically testing it.]

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0027030/

>>41262

Good post. This reminds me of when P3n310p3 S1lk3 was claiming she was using some kind of futuristic inaudible brainwashing tones and someone analyzed the audio and there was literally no frequency content present.

>>41254

that's like 90% of 8ch tbf

To be totally fair, we DID discover that really creepy frequency that is barely audible but makes humans incredibly uncomfortable, inducing a state of fear and paranoia, which some horror movies have actually exploited. If I recall, but don't take my word for it, it's the 17hz to 19hz range of infrasounds.

So it's not TOO farfetched to me that there could be certain frequencies that might make someone more receptive to things like hypnosis, but admittedly that's as far as my input goes.

I just feel like if it's possible to induce fear and paranoia with sound then we should keep an open mind on the idea some frequencies might do other things. Our brains are fucked up pieces of work.

>>41285

First of all, almost all commercial speakers and even headphones have a very hard time producing any sound below 20hz at a reasonable volume. Not because a human could not hear it, although at this point it is more felt than heard and even to hear it the volume has to be increased by upwards of 30db or 5 times due to the insensitivity of the human ear at these low frequencies. But the bigger problem is that the effort needed to produce such low tones is literally exponentially increasing making it unfeasible to maintain even linear volume (not even considering the insensitivity of the ear) at any remotely justifiable price. And because practically all speakers are built this way the amplifiers usually don't produce much power below 20hz as well (and because of DC protection circuits).

So while it may be possible to induce fear or even an overall sense of unhappiness, this can only be applied to short sonic bursts of tens of milliseconds and won't typically be heard on average speaker and not properly felt on headphones for obvious reasons. This is probably more of a torture technique with devices made for this spectrum than a good way to support hypnosis audios. The effect might be similar to what is experienced when there is a constant high exposure to construction noises like jack hammer. Also I remember a sort of recent case where such sonic torture was used to disturb the minds of unsuspecting US embassy employees in Cuba I think.

Let's end this off topic discussion here.

>>41287

Sorry, I meant 30dB or 32 (=2^5) times, as every 6dB increase equates a doubling of perceived loudness at very low frequencies. This also depends on the overall volume you listen at. It's worse of lower volumes and slightly better (only about 15dB) at higher volume.

>>40996

Just coming in to provide my two cents on this post.

Advertising can remind people that something exists, making them want to buy it. It can also provide them with reasons why they should buy something, making them want to buy it. However, it can't change your underlying desires. I won't suddenly like tomatoes because of an ad for them.

Hypnosis is much the same way. These files can remind you to suck cock. If you weren't sucking cock because you forgot about it, they may make you suck cock. These files can also give you reasons to think sucking cock is a good idea. But neither of these will turn a straight person gay.

Also before someone brings it up, subliminal advertising/messages are bullshit as well. If people don't like your brand or don't know it subliminal advertising won't do shit, and if people already like it they were going to buy it anyway. It only slightly increases sales in people who were considering buying it but not 100% sure. That's why no-one spends on subliminal advertising, even in places where it's legal.

Redpill me on tulpas already, bullshit delusions or "real"? I dont want to mess with B4mb1 sleep anymore if this remains a possibility and while I dont know myself to what degree this tulpa shit is voluntary or involuntary, real or just "real" like an imaginary friend or some shit. This is not what I want out of my fap material.

>>41304

no tulpas from B4mb1 playlists

you're looking at a fantasy, greatly enhanced when crossdressing, wearing makeup playing with dildos. Triggers that will make you feel pleasure, amnesia, that will make the B4mb1 mode stay as long as you wear panties and stuff. If you're into crossdressing, dildos, makeup, there's great content for you there.

However, do note there are also IQ reduction files (that you can leave out, just don't forget to) and lots of cock addiction stuff (in some cases both dildos and cocks are mentioned, in other files only cocks are).

Anyway, as with all hypnos, if you listen to a playlist a lot of times in a short span of time (like a week), you're going to feel intense effects, but they will fade away pretty quickly. If you're going to listen to a playlist every day for more than two months (and not get bored by the repetitiveness of such an experience), you might get a few long-lasting effects.

Anyway, to answer your question: you're looking at this as fap material; there won't be any tulpas; don't even worry about it.

To get a tulpa from the files is absolutely possible. Probably depends how vulnerable and suggestible you were before listening. Listening to IV before switching to B4mb1 is a dangerous mix. May work with other tists and dimmed as well.

>>41312

*Dommes

Can we have some more fanmade videos? I like the existing ones and prefer to have visuals to watch.

>>41314

Someone posted a new one to the discord today ;)

https://mega.nz/#!97RAiLSA!A8FQGQz9PRMyi3J8EMdM6pvkd6gsP_go-o2hXs1zR8I

>>41316

Ugh I wish they didnt use that awful font, theres way better ones in the default trance program.

Also is there a place to download more or these? I mess around with this program too and its reaally effective at going deeper I think, together with B4mb1 sleep playing on headphones and total privacy, hnnng

>>41305

>no tulpas from B4mb1 playlists

>>41312

>To get a tulpa from the files is absolutely possible

Fucks sake.

>>41321

what a shithole, what drives a person to write "giggles" in their godamn posts lmao

also the cult thing is not my thing, fuck it, not gonna bother

>>41322

The whole cult thing is a joke you know. They dont really run it as cult. They run the discord as information place if you have questions about B4mb1 or want to interact with other members.

>>41323

Besides that the way they alter their speech as if they were several IQ lower is just weird, its like when you browse the comments of B4mb1, GG, etc sites and you see the same shit, its embarrassing and painful to read because you know they're just fooling themselves

>adfly

could you be any worse?

nearly 6 weeks since last B4mb1 prime post

sad times

need more content

>find B4mb1 content not that interesting

>want to enjoy other hypno series

>only trance deep with with B4mb1

Is there anything else as effective or am I shit out of luck?

>>41379

Ever try using the B4mb1 inductions with other files?

>>41380

I think the inductions are quite B4mb1 focused, with the phrasing being pretty much antithetical to the other files I want to enjoy.

>>41382

Fair point. If you like the induction style, try Lutz's Bubble Induction.

>>41383

I've never tried using file by someone else to affect another series, but the B4mb1 bubble induction is probably the most effective induction I've experienced.

>>41384

https://www.warpmymind.com/index.php?gadget=HFiles&action=GetFile&file_id=1158

Enjoy.

So I came upon a post on halfchan /gif/ that got me thinking-

https://boards.4chan.org/gif/thread/12886977#p12902209

>The whole thing is built around creating a feminine slutty feeling in you

>On the other hand, they want to break down the masculine part. By implying it's not a real man or good enough to be considered a man.

>So the two statements you referred to are directed at two different personalities. The first one is for your feminine slutty side, praising slutty behaviour and the like. The second one is for the (preexisting) male part, which gets discouraged and pushed into the background.

>inb4 multiple personalities means crazy

It feels like this description applies equally well to B4mb1 hypno files, even if they are meant to be gender neutral though. But the thing that stands out is about discouraging and pushing aside the male part or (old self) as it applies to the B4mb1 files specifically. Say you do enter that "feminine state of mind" when engaging in this fetish, browsing sissy hypno or listening to the B4mb1 files, and return back to your normal state of mind and normal mindset usually after fapping, right. Isn't it concerning then when the very nature of the B4mb1 sleep files especially is all about maximizing that slutty/feminine/B4mb1 side time and minimizing or pushing away your non-feminine normal mindset/personality which is reffered to as "the old self" and the files are all about supressing it and letting B4mb1 "your feminine side" (I guess?) takeover.

Isn't it worrying when it gets to the point that you feel more often engaged in this "feminine" mindset than your normal one because you get addicted to the files, experiences and the porn and are conditioned to do so when listening to the files too? Like putting aside your "old self" hobbies, and everything just to maintain that illusion the files are working, or because when you have the free time you are fapping and edging to porn or listening to these files instead… I know the files are meant to be effective really only with the "uniform" but if you listen to them often enough and especially the newer ones that seem to be dismissing the uniform more and more and sort of blurring the lines just how much of that influence and conditioning or whatever is actually affecting you outside of the time spent listening, dressed in your "uniform"?

And so rather than the B4mb1 files giving you a "tulpa" which I find evidence for the very phenomenon to be suspect it seems more likely they are all about encouraging, and prolonging that time you spend in that self-delusionial feminine mindset where your normal masculine personality or "old self" plays a less engaging and active role and you put off your normal hobbies and activities to prolong the time you spend edging and fapping to porn and listening to the files and basically playing this role as "B4mb1" - after all it doesnt fit with the conditioning and the fantasy of "being B4mb1" to put on some grand strat or 4X vidya and engage in complex tasks and thinking after just having listened to a B4mb1 session (which the files discourage and talk about IQ reduction) and depending on how badly you want to fool yourself into thinking its working (or possibly depending on how strongly you respond to the hypno) you might put that stuff off for the sake of the fantasy - even after you return to your "old self" its like you are still trying to maintain that illusion maybe? I notice this especially when you see people commenting on shitcord or reddit or here "as B4mb1' and they have spelling mistakes and simplistic sentences and try too hard to put on a demeanor of some bimbo or stacey type girl who barely knows how to use a computer, and they're not playing along or joking but actually trying to come off as geniune.

>>41390

So when browsing sissy hypno, and fapping and edging to that kind of porn it seems one can fall into this mindset, this temporary escape into fantasy depending on the reason they are interested in that fetish in the first place. But they snap out of it pretty much after fapping, but if you pair that fetish with the hardcore hypnosis that the B4mb1 sleep files are then I feel its a little more lingering and might subtly get you to alter your behavior, interests and hobbies in line with the fantasy presented by the files over time perhaps. Especially if you get addicted to them - then on top of porn you spend your free time listening to 1-2+ hours of hypno as well and spending more time in this mindset that is not your "normal" one, is that truly healthy? What happens when you begin to neglect the "old-self" more and more in favor of prolonging and staying with these delusions, reinforced and strengthened by the B4mb1 hypno files and the porn you edge/fap to, like a self-feeding cycle?

Maybe this is more of a concern for NEETs though and those with too much free time on their hands I don't know. Your thoughts /hypno/? Does anything I said make sense, or am I fucking wrong and projecting or something, though it doesnt feel like I'm projecting so much.

>tfw writing a fucking essay on erotic hypnosis

>>41391

Yeah, that's pretty much it.

What what I'm wondering is how far the ones that really indulge the fantasy go. Could you imagine a stranger who knows about this trying to use the triggers to more or less rape you?

More disturbingly, trying this and having it actually work, due to the way being that horny muddles your thinking?

Maybe an intrinsic part of the fantasy for some people, but the reality of it is pretty horrifying. Almost makes you wonder if maybe the maker isn't the only one profiting off these files.

>>41390

>>41391

I mostly agree with your observations/understanding of the files.

The phrase "old self" is likely used because the induction and especially the necessary track 3 (the transformation) of the original playlist, which put the listener in the perspective of B4mb1, in whose opinion the actual persona of the listener is the "old self" consequently. That's fully in line with the story that is conveyed.

The problem of a significant investment of time and possible neglect of other parts of a dedicated listener's life is a very real danger of any addiction just as the one inflicted through the files. That's why I have previously recommended here that one has to make very sure to be able to cope with any effects of the suggestions presented in the series.

So if you want to listen to B4mb1 you should have a strong mind, be able to fight addictive behavior, and not be susceptible to mental illnesses such as depression or panic attacks.

>>41394

I like to think of it as a designer mind drug and the sheer stylized weirdness of it makes a good case for us currently living in a cyberpunk dystopia.

>>41393

The rape question is interesting.

Normally when you listen your mind would practically censor any content that it interprets as problematic.

If however the conditioning has been successfully accepted, it is kind of a natural response to obey triggers only roughly checking them as they are applied. So a seemingly trustable person could use those triggers to put an unsuspecting listener in a vulnerable situation and exploit them.

What would happen then is probably very dependent on the minds affection towards the general situation. It might decide to enjoy getting raped as part of the fantasy accepting it without the conscious evaluation of consequences. The other scenario is likely a general panic that revoces the subconscious submission as too risky or breaking otherwise applicable boundaries. At least that's my guess.

>>41395

>cyberpunk dystopia

Or a jewish psyop

>>41397

I think more so the acceptance of the fantasy due to the extremely heightened state of arousal the triggers induce. (Even if they don't actually work as they're supposed to at all, the conditioned bodily response is reliable.)

>>41399

There's nothing about BBC in it.

>>41399

…when you forget to sage while trolling

>>41394

>I mostly agree with your observations/understanding of the files.

Neat, so that wall of text wasn't for nothing lol, well either way I find writing things out like that allows me to gain some new insights on things anyways and helps to organize my thoughts more cause I dont think verbally all that much.

>So if you want to listen to B4mb1 you should have a strong mind, be able to fight addictive behavior, and not be susceptible to mental illnesses such as depression or panic attacks.

Well that rules me out then, currently suffering from anxiety, panic attacks and agoraphobia… actually thats part of why I wrote all this up and its been on my mind lately, I noticed how due to anxiety and everything your personality can change so completely and the fear of that happening as a result of the files, or as a result of porn addiction is very frightening and concerning, especially if it comes so gradually you don't even notice it and you just spend less time with the hobbies you used to enjoy because porn becomes more important, which is what happened to me to some degree. Then add anxiety and panic attacks to the mix and its such a pain in the ass.

So I became curious as to what extent repeated listening of these files could gradually yet significantly alter your personality and enjoyment of things, the longer you listen, to what degree the effects can be maintained long term and reinforced by listening again and again as someone addicted and seeking escapism might be inclined to, and how telling yourself its all contained to "the uniform" might just be self delusion as well. As listening requires you and the file requires you to put on a fake persona, or adopt a fake mindset "B4mb1" and stay in that mindset for the duration but is heavily ladden with suggestions and shit that can gradually make you want to stay in that mindset longer and longer even when not listening so that you can feel it has an effect and does work - which for some people might be a desired thing? Maybe but not for me I guess.

>>41393

Yeah, my concern stems from reading all these posts about people who get into sissy hypno and after awhile go out and experience the fantasy for real, engaging with real strangers, like they are living out their porn videos. That crossing of the line from fantasy to reality is not desirable yet the B4mb1 files kinda push in that direction I notice.

What you said about someone using the triggers alone to take advantage of a person seems silly though, do triggers really work like that? I never had such a response to triggers and basically the day after I dont even remember them and nothing really "sticks" like that though maybe to those it does it can be a concern.

>>41400

You don't need BBC to do it. Making guys think they are girls is all you need to do to bring white birth rate below replacement level.

>>41408

You mean the physical response to them? Yes, that's conditioning. If they don't work on you like that yet though you're hardly at any point to start worrying and probably just filling a void with this stuff.

>>41409

You're confusing a fetish with transgenderism. Like a lot of people in that discord actually. Though that's a problem to solve in the zeitgeist of academia and not on a hypno board.

>>41408

If and how strongly B4mb1 is tied to the uniform is a consequence of your minds understanding of the wording of the files along with its own desires and maybe affinity to taking risks.

(Your post indicates that you already believe that she won't be limited to the uniform in your case.)

As it is brought up in the B4mb1 threads regularly, there seems to be a tendency towards B4mb1 escaping its natural habitat, even though this is never explicitly suggested. There are still a lot of phrases that might lead one to the conclusion that B4mb1 is to be expected to or even should push beyond the limits of her uniform.

>>41410

Yes, (((academia)))

>>41408

Got into hypno because i was looking for a "mindbreak". Not sure i managed to do it. I always liked the idea of being a girl/sissy. For some people its not fantasy, they really want (in some way) what the files describe. The role play even if its 'forced' helps with the conditioning. The more you do b4mbi things, the more likely you will become b4mbi which is the purpose of the file.

>>40983

Then do some research. Then you will find something to base your belief on. Not on fears and worries. Don't rely on what I say and what others say on a fetish board especially when they are brainwashed to love it.

I understand how addiction works and the file. I used to listen to it on the daily. But this sounds like you have a kid issue too. You're scared of the end goal of the files and don't want it (Or so you say…) but it feels good. You're letting it take control of you. If you cannot control the kid inside you, the one who wants to escape into dream land then you have more issues than just addiction. Seeking constant gratification and delaying yourself from doing anything productive. You need to look inside of yourself and evaluate your decisions. Think of cause and effect. You don't seem happy with your current situation but you won't face it. It is as easy as you make it. Your beliefs and attitude can make a major difference. Don't be sucked into the kid side of you who wants to escape and keep you in the negatives because that side of you doesn't want to improve. It wants to constantly keep you in the negative. Why would you listen to that part of you? It can only provide you short term happiness.

Turn off your computer, read some self discipline books and improve yourself. Realise your decisions have an affect on you and decide what you really want. Learn how to stop working against yourself. Unless perhaps you want to be a good little B4mb1?

>>40993

Hypnosis cannot force you to do anything you don't want. Period. You would just take off your headphones because it does nothing for you. Nothing else. THIS doesn't imply hypnosis cannot affect anyone who wants it even just partially. You can give a lot of suggestions to someone to follow if they partially gain something from it.

>>40996

When they purchased an I-phone. What did they gain from it? Did they not like the results of their purchase? They made the decision to get one because they wanted it. Whether they knew they wanted one or not initially.

>>41456

>When they purchased an I-phone. What did they gain from it? Did they not like the results of their purchase? They made the decision to get one because they wanted it. Whether they knew they wanted one or not initially.

You sound like a marketer who believes the bullshit he is selling and thinks he is providing a service to humanity.

>>41461

I don't like Apple because the idea behind their ecosystem is a golden cage. But form a marketing perspective they have pretty much nailed it. They have an incredibly strong appeal towards large parts of the population as a status symbol, have a very strong brand recognition and can sell their products at several times the production cost getting the most out of every potential costumer (wealthy or not) for minimal changes in hardware while still targeting a broad spectrum of buyers. And because it's a golden cage the costumers are mostly loyal to the brand investing in more of its products and locking themselves even further into the cage.

The hardware is also not exactly bad.

>>41454

I see you have those reasons and those desires, as for me thats not why I got into it on the other hand, and my biggest concern is a fetish getting out of hand and turning into something more, or just stagnating with this fetish while everything else, even older fetishes like hentai, futa and monstergirls is left aside and forgotten because this fetish is about nudging you towards a specific mindset, not just the B4mb1 files but all sissy hypno content really and I want to avoid that. I have other shit I like, that I already mentioned but lately it seems all I ever fap to and seek out is this specific sissy hypno vids/images etc and thats just limiting yourself in my view, especially because the whole sissy fetish has with it strong connotations about taking it into reality and doing this stuff for real which I have no interest in since its supposed to be escapism from reality in the first place!

>>41480

if you have no interest in the fetish escaping into real life, then from a hypno perspective you have nothing to worry about; as technically the b4mbi files shouldnt affect you that way.

W H E N N E W C O N T E N T

pls

>>41410

>Though that's a problem to solve in the zeitgeist of academia and not on a hypno board.

This is the most milquetoast liberal response I have heard in a long time. The current of the times are not indicative whether they are right or wrong, and the bourgeois intelligentsia known as academia certainly won't have all the answers. The "right side of history" meme is a meme because, you are saying your actions today are vindicated in the future, which is retarded because, there is no way of knowing your actions will be justified. Hell, as far as we know, as much as we take democracy and liberalism (in the political philosiphical definition from of the Enlightenment) for granted and think they are the be-all-end-all of government and politics, it may fall out of fashion and be replaced by fascism.

The new fanmade video is good, but I wonder if Just a 2 hour video without sound, so that we can put any of the existing audios to it, would be useful. I kind of generic B4mb1 video.

>>41534

>The new fanmade video

Where is it?

And why has the discord channel turned to shit, no more file links page?

>>41538

You need proper role permission. It’s not that hard to figure out you autist.

>>41534

B4mb1 now pls, don't be such an airhead. Just loop anything and mute the video is it that hard?

Fanmade video: ZCDO Giggles

>https://mega.nz/#!97RAiLSA!A8FQGQz9PRMyi3J8EMdM6pvkd6gsP_go-o2hXs1zR8I

>>41541

I don't want to join this cultist autismo discord shit just to check some files fuck you.

So… any ETA for new files? I'm mostly asking so I know when to start checking for updates.

I know that the oblivion file is the "last one" but will there be more add-on / fantasy / guided dream files? I would imagine that there are more fantasy's to add on beyond the current ones.

>>41567

New training loops and polishing off the Bimbodoll Conditioning series and the older loop files are on her agenda. After that, there may be new content.

>>41541

>You need proper role permission. It’s not that hard to figure out you autist.

Suck my dick you cock slut B4mb1 whore

>>41529

What does that have to do with getting colleges to stop cranking out future statistic transtrenders on an assembly line?

Have you been keeping up with your conditioning B4mb1?

>>41604

The only thing stats are useful for in any tangible way is presenting a representation of reality that reinforces a narrative you support. If the representation syncs with the narrative, it vindicates your cause and garners further support for it. It doesn't matter if the representations themselves are inaccurate, only that they are useful.

>>41590

If I’m B4mb1, wouldn’t I want that?

>>41740

except if you're trying to be objective and make your mind up about something, statistics are what you rely on

it's utterly fucking retarded to argue statistics aren't useful

or did i misread you?

over two months since any new content :(

i guess the creator is getting $1000 per file now so wants to make sure it's really good

>>41768

>trying to be objective

lol

>>41564

Cant you get them all from the main Tumblr for free witouth ever needing to touch the discord?

>>41792

They can ask one of the users from discord to post whatever link they need in here. Just saying

>>40993

Easy, it's hypnosis versus brainwashing. Hypnosis is a singular event that can do little on its own. A constant barrage of repetitive heavy unrelenting conditioning on the other hand will eventually fuck you up. It's the difference between a silly stage show and a nefarious sex cult. Hypnosis isn't inherently dangerous, but it does enable other things to alter your perception of a given situation which can make psychological conditioning more effective.

>>41768

Stats in and of itself do not explain causation. The narrative provides this needed context, which makes the representation "real".

>>41867

but if you're trying to decide between competing "narratives" (really you mean theories) and the statistics you have imply one more strongly than the other, they're useful

if you think that statistics are not useful in this sense, then you're basically denying that science is useful as a concept, which is obviously bullshit but would make for an entertaining debate (akin to having a rabbit fight a tiger)

that said, putting the narrative/theory first and finding statistics to support it is bad science and bad decision making, and if you notice this it's right to call it out

nobody ever said that stats alone explain causation, and we all know that correlation does not imply causation, but experimental correlation with a well substantiated mechanic of interaction is the basis of everything we actually know

>>40739

one thing i want to say about these files, that they do really well:

i think the modular format is the way forward for the entire genre of erotic hypnosis

being able to play the files in different orders and make a session of whatever length you want is really really good

it saves work on different inductions or doing an induction for every single file allows files invoking new triggers to be inserted into the playlist

compared to other sets of files with a similar length of content, this stuff has lasted FAR longer for me due to this variety

i like making a playlist with an induction at the start and cum file at the end with a few random files inserted inbetween - not knowing what's coming up is exciting, even if i've heard every file a load of times before

>>42001

Don't get me wrong, science as a study is the best way to observe the natural phenomena of the world and serve humanity, but the modern institution as it stands marches to the tune of Capital. What passes for science nowadays is a joke.

>>42001

meant to reply to >>41997

Is there a expected release date on new stuff?

I hate how close these files are to something that I really want.

The voice is great, the inductions are great, and the sleep, pleasure, and obedience triggers are wonderfully effective and addictive. I want to keep listening and doing what she tells me to do.

I also like the idea of a sexy, stupid, submissive female "presence" in my mind that can hijack control, lock out my willpower and intelligence, and make my brain answer to her name and obey the voice unquestioningly.

I just don't like the actual shit that she winds up telling me to do: dress girly, feel like I have female body parts, and suck cock. I'm a cis hetero male, and I feel myself getting pushed out of trance when she orders those things.

But I love the files that order other things, like Control Loop: Doll.

If there were alternate versions of files like the IQ Lock that left out the cock sucking part, plus an alternate path of "payoff" files that really emphasize B4mb1 being an outside influence that sabotages me rather than a means of actually feminizing me (like how B4mb1 Takeover and Control Loop: Doll already kind of work), I would seriously be all-in on these files.

They are so close to perfect, and it's frankly frustrating how much I like the parts I like.

>>42043

I suppose I empathise if you don't like that stuff but what else is a dumb sexy female presence in your mind gonna do to you? Like what would the actual effects be if not things like that

>>42046

Fair question, I suppose. The deal is that I like femdom. I want to obey the voice and whatever other women the voice wants me to obey. Of course, there's tons of hypnosis out there in that general vein.

Partly, of course, I like these files because they are simply very good quality. I can trance very deep to them, the suggestions and triggers are effective, and they feel very good. So I am obviously going to want such a good hypnotist to make material that caters to my fetishes, whatever they may be.

But as for the specifics of why I like the B4mb1 personality implant angle… I always like hypnosis that uses imagery of suppressing and neutralizing my conscious mind and speaking directly to my subconscious about how it and the hypnotist are going to work together to get what they want (i.e., what SHE wants).

I also really like intelligence draining and dismantling my willpower/defenses so she can put in suggestions that push my limits and I already gave up the power to question or resist them. Obviously this doesn't really work perfectly, but I like the imagery and have enjoyed being manipulated a bit past where I thought I wanted to go on some occasions.

So here, I like this basic idea: she deletes my mind and makes me a helpless blank slate. Then she installs a personality she completely controls and gives it control over my brain. This personality is very stupid and obedient, so I feel stupid and obedient when it is "driving." The personality is also a sexy woman so I'm predisposed to do what it wants. Then the hypnotist plants various traps and conditioning that make the intruder personality better and better at hijacking the brain from my "real" mind so that the hypnotist had a stupid and docile slave to control without needing to do an induction. Answering to the name "B4mb1" is just a representation of the fact that the implanted personality is currently in control.

From there, I will do whatever the voice wants because B4mb1 is controlling me. That's the spot where we run into trouble: I don't like the specific sissy orders the voice issues. I'm not super picky about what the orders are; I just don't like sissy. She could tell me to shill for the B4mb1 program online, tell me to coordinate with other B4mb1s for mutual reinforcement, give JOI, assign basic tasks that I can't do because my IQ is locked so I can feel helpless, play more with paralysis, amnesia, or compulsive movements, implant suggestions that let B4mb1 peek out during the day periodically and take temporary control, honestly whatever. Just don't tell me to crossdress, feel like I have a pussy, or serve men of any kind in any way.

>>40904

Brilliant playlist.

Does listening to it multiple times in one day have the same effect as across multiple days? I've done 1-2-3-10 three times tonight and while I feel like it's working a bit better, it's still not totally taking over. Should I give it a rest for the night or go back for a fourth?

>>42071

Try adding 4 and 8, and replace 10 with Bimbo Drift. Might help.

>>42047

i like this set of ideas

i enjoy the current theme of suggestions but i like the variety suggested here

i would like to see the same, as well as suggestions involving more sexual things, like anal masturbation, cum eating, jerking off twice in in quick succession (so the second time is kinda painful, there's a good Ch4r|0tt3 grey file for this)

>>42117

Yeah! I'm not into all of those, but I would like that kind of variety in the "payoffs." I would also like non-sissy versions of some of the conditioning files. For example, I can't really use the Blank Mindless Doll alternate induction because it keeps jerking me out with all the "go to sleep as your huge boobs feel so heavy" stuff.

I feel like I'm going to burn out pretty quick with only like 5 or 6 files in the whole list that I can really use.

First I listened to 1 2 3 10 just at my pc no uniform not rlly into trance and jerked it after

Then i listened to the training loops in uniform and proper conditions etc the next day

then i listened to 1 2 3 10 in uniform and proper conditions which ended with my jerking it and playing with my ass which i've never really done. After that I felt bad and deleted it all.

That was yesterday and now im re downloading it all and gonna do 1 - 10 lol

I don't think the brainwashing is a thing but it does seem to be addictive because of it being arousing

>>42173

Get a cage, bondage or a dom to do it with and you'll have a better time

>>42120

The files are feminization + bimbo and it seems like you don't like either so I'm not sure I agree they are all that close to something you really want.

Kinda feel like the problem is just that anyone who's not into bimbo feminization feels a bit hard done by since there's not really anything else that matches the quality and strength of B4mb1 in general

did anyone try using penis/ball gag as part of the uniform?

(asking for a friend ofc)

Have any of you really had takeover effects from the B4mb1 files? I've read a couple of people blanking out outside of trance and to me that seems like something trippy I'd like to experience. But I have my doubts about this whole separate personality thing. I'm willing to put in the time to trance with this stuff if it gets stronger, but if it just stays elaborate roleplay I'd rather not waste my time.

>>42441

do you really like the idea of it though?

do you trance with a uniform?

>>42442

Yes and yes. But nothing elaborate, I'm not exactly in a living situations where I can do that. So just panties and stockings and stuff. I want to go full out eventually to see what happens. I guess I'll keep trying, I don't know maybe some part of me doesn't want it.

>>42322

Yes, I'm aware that the payload is feminization. That's the ONLY part of the files I don't like.

Your post is like if I said that I enjoyed the writing style, setting, and characters of Sherlock Holmes but wish he didn't have to solve a mystery in every story, like why couldn't Doyle just once show some other part of their lives. And you responded, "They're detective stories, if you don't like them you don't like them." No shit.

I like that the files implant a sexy female traitor who hijacks me and makes me watch helplessly from my own head as I answer to her name, obey the hypnotist enthusiastically, and become to stupid to figure out how to escape. That's red hot. There is no inherent reason why the ONLY thing the hypnotist can then instruct me to do is to where girly clothes, pretend I have a pussy, and suck dicks. I listed several examples of other stuff she could command.

>

Yes, I'm aware that the payload is feminization. That's the ONLY part of the files I don't like.

so basically all of it

>>42489

you got it the other way around…

Feminization is the main theme. The parts that you find hot are there to serve the main purpose of these playlists, that is feminization.

It would make no sense to remove feminization from a feminization playlist.

>>42496

So it is your position that it would be 100% impossible even in theory to do the same induction and then implant ANY suggestion besides feminization? I think you are wrong.

>>42500

it's not impossible at all, not saying you're wrong, you like what you like, just that what you're suggesting isn't really what the B4mb1 files are about, and even the bits you do like are either generally desriable for any hypnosis (high quality + powerful) or do kind of naturally lead on.to bimbo/fem stuff (dumb female voice in your head).

>>42496

Its not even, the file creator said the files are meant to be for both genders, the file language is gender neutral by design, main theme is more bimbofication than feminization since including overt femization would be weird for female listeners so theres very little of it compared to other TTS/hypno files in comparison specifically designed for male listeners

>>42502

sure, it's still feminization in the sense that bimbofication is feminization taken to the extreme though (if you complain about dressing up like a girl, stuff being bimbofication rather than feminization isn't going to help you)

Yo, what are all of your favorite playlists? I could shuffle them around all day, but I'd love to have some more recommendations!

>03

>tfw you don't like the name "B4mb1" and don't want to be called that

>because if this, hesitate to listen to any files at all

What do?

>>42523

I put up with it at firat for the sake of not letting that get in the way of my attempts to trance as deeply as possible, then after awhile through enough repetition and arousal and association I was okay with it, but if I go like a few weeks or a month without listening then the name starts to sound corny and lame again tbh. I feel like you can only ever tolerate it, maybe even pretend you like it for the sake of the file and the trance and your arousal but its never something that you can truly like, at least for me.

The author has identified the tts voice used as Iwona Salli on their blog.

Legal purchasing of this isn't prohibitively expensive.

However the knowledge to mix your own track(s) with the depth of detail and level of finish is going to beyond most.

That said 1,2,3,10 to set the trance triggers.

After that you should be able to insert your own files without jarring discord.

If you want something else specifically - write it.

My suggestion is three tracks.

Main, left and right.

With left + right being 'subliminal'. Or rather a lot quieter than the main track but still audible.

After you have a simple background in audacity and that set up you can drop a new 5 or 10 minute main track in and export it fairly quickly.

Looks like the donation site is down?

>>42581

Google has't even noticed it as a search for "B4mb1sleep" still returns the link to the patreon profile which in turn doesn't load the correct page anymore.

>>42581

still there for me?

what specifically does the "drop for cock" trigger do? Vague references to an empty mouth feeling doesnt sound like a solid trigger

>>42555

Its the strangest thing to hear that voice when just browsing youtube and watching a video on something and its a TTS as they've become poplar recently, and you instantly recognize the voice, even more strange feeling when its a family member playing a video like that.

Heard the very same Iwona Sali voice on a Jolly wangcore vid, spoken by a headcrab in one of the mods he was playing, shit made me laugh so hard, hearing it in a completely different context and setting.

Still that TTS voice is the reason I stuck to the B4mb1 files for so long, god tier TTS voice desu

>>42597

this trigger makes your mouth feel extremely empty, and also extremely thirsty for cock.

https://mindwriters.net/wiki/index.php/B4mb1sleep_Methodology

>I'm a difficult hypnosis subject and have spent years getting to the point where the stuff I make actually works for me, which probably explains why it seems to be quite effective in general.

Makes sense, if you design a hypno that even the people with the most difficulty with hypnosis and trance can actually have work for them (as they did for me to some degree) then those who are easily susceptible to hypnosis are probably going to have the strongest and most powerful experience and probably even get hooked and addicted easily. While those who have difficulty with all other hypno and find that B4mb1 sleep is the only one which really works on them even if its not always, and they are craving the experience of tranch and being hypnotized then they will likewise stick to it and become addicted to it.

Its just such a shame the files are about this DID shit which isn't appealing to everyone.

>>42615

>tranch

….I'm gonna sudoku myself now

>>42615

This 100%

I am so helplessly addicted to the inductions, deepeners, and basic triggers. I can't stop listening to the files I can tolerate (1, 2, 3, 4, 8, 10, Training Loop: Puppet, and Bimbo Drift). I keep trying to experiment with other files in a vain attempt to please the hypnotist, and I just can't get through them

I so badly want her to activate b4mb1 and have her make me do anything else. Plenty of dommes I have both sissy files and other stuff; I wish she would branch out too. I would be such a good slave for her.

Just wanted to give my experience. I was really high and had been awake all night when I tried these out… and it was insane. I literally thought I was a girl and had this crazy horny feeling all inside of my stomach and chest. I also could feel it in my “pussy” I came a couple times just rubbing the area where my pussy would be. I also watched porn and got super horny looking at the guys and thinking about how they were made to be stronger and more dominant than me and fuck me. I also looked at pictures of people I know and literally identified with the girls and thought about the guys way differently. It was nuts. Lasted a couple days. Since then back to normal but I want to have that happen again. Frankly hasn’t been the same since. Maybe it had to do with all-nighter + weed

>>42581

patreon's fucked atm

https://twitter.com/PatreonSupport

no news from the creator though since over two months ago :<<<

>>42641

Thanks for the report, reading about other posters' experiences is always interesting.

The best experiences I've had with B4mb1 files have also involved fatigue of some kind, either after an all-nighter or a day of physical exertion.

Got a question for others here. The other day I was hit hard with the B4mb1 original set of files. I now have compulsions to keep listening. Every time I think of stopping I just hear good girl in my head and pleasure at the thought of growing my B4mb1 personality. Basically I'm not too worried about the whole B4mb1 takeover thing. What I am worried about is my own addiction and escapism behavior I might develop from this. It feels really really fucking good to listen to the hypnosis, but it's almost 2 hours. You can't do that every day and get other stuff done. So my question after my long ass ramble. How strong do these compulsions get and are you able to maintain focus on your day to day life? I'm trying to avoid turning this into an addiction. Even thought plenty of people are addicted to shit in day to day life, when something feels this good the brain is stupid and just wants more of it.

>>42859

Cant say about the addictive thing, but as regards length, a new remastered and a bit shorter version of the original set of files will soon be released.

>>42859

also on length, there's nothing stopping you making a shorter playlist with an induction and only 2 more files

Does the creator of the B4mb1 files browse these threads?

I really want to know when we can expect some new files! I suppose now that it's getting a lot of money per release on Patreon that they want to make sure it's worth the money. But they could make it a full time job at $1000 per file!

If I remember correctly in one of the previous B4mb1 threads the creator did step in and post on 8hcan

>>42898

yes but please don't clutter up the thread with those disgusting pics - get on the discord server linked in the OP if you want advice for this sort of thing

You can delete your own post you know. Either that or can we get a mod to delete those NASTY pictures please?

>>42898

>this is your mind on B4mb1 sleep

>>42917

Mistaking >>>/hypno/ as >>>/sissy/ is not a known side effect of B4mb1 conditioning.

>>42898

Lol @ the amount of people in this thread who will deny that this is probably the majority of B4mb1s/sissies.

Nice ad campaign of discord :D

I haven't listened for a while but would I have potential?

https://gfycat.com/scornfulexcitablearacari

>>42967

100%, soon to be Ｂａｍｂｉ, just start listening again and become the bimbo you need to be.

And get a bigger dildo, you'll be craving it.

>>40891

I would

>>42985

>I would

Why?

>>42898

Thanks for degrading the quality of the B4mb1 culture. We like to live in fantasy, thank you very much.

>>43074

The irony of that statement when the B4mb1 files are all about self delusion and crossing the line from fantasy to reality lol

Yes, these photos is what all that B4mb1 cult is about. Nice illustrations.

>>42898

shave and cage obviously

>>41322

kek

>>41390

>>41391

Your old personality still exists though, the files just attempt to create a new, independent personality for you. Not sure what your concern about ejaculating and returning to the old personality is; isn't that what (you) want, to return to normal?

Anyway, you keep saying that the files don't really work and that behaving as b4mb1 is a delusion. If the files compel you to do things that "maintain the illusion" that the files are working, then they do in fact work. As for the delusion aspect: Imagine a woman, whose body and face aren't that attractive, but she really wants to be attractive. She'll put on some make-up and wear a beautiful dress, so she can look like the woman that she wants to be. Imagine a man wants to appear and feel masculine, so he drives around in a giant truck and carries a concealed gun around to feel powerful. Both of these people are just squishy sacks of flesh in reality, but their social self-image is different, and so they act that image out. Is it delusional for a child to want to grow up to be a doctor, and then throughout his life take steps toward becoming a doctor? For me, yes actually; society as a whole is an amalgam of social constructions which constitutes a mass delusion that is believed by all "mentally well" human beings.

The real question is if somehow, the b4mb1 self-delusion is fundamentally different from the others. No, it's not. b4mb1 might have some physically masculine features; if she does she attempts to make the physical body compatible with the self-image, in a way that's defined by the files; this is no fundamentally different than a woman shaving her legs, or a guy lifting weights. Society told these people to do these things, and so they act out their place in the mass delusion.

The secondary differences between the b4mb1 delusion and any other delusion comes from the social context in which the delusions are being acted out, and the relation between this delusion and the others. A "guy" dressing up as a "girl" may not be socially acceptable according to certain people from certain cultures, so although social acceptability is a delusion in itself, it can have very real consequences for those that practice locally unaccepted delusions. Obviously, this just means that b4mb1s will just b4mb-out in private to avoid persecution.

As for the issue of addiction, yes, being b4mb1 can be very addicting. She's a fun girl. But as long as it doesn't interfere with your public life, there's no problem. Note that the "old self"-delusion actually does have control over when the b4mb1-self triggers; so "real" obligations and responsibilities will always come first. So the only issue would be leaving the b4mb1 state in a timely manner, which as you said, solves itself through "fapping". If you are prone to addiction, self-regulated jacking off in girls clothes, which is relegated to an entirely separate personality, is not nearly as harmful in comparison to virtually any other addictive stimuli. Food, videogames, alcohol/drugs, and gambling, for example, all have massive detrimental effects on the mind AND body if abused. Yes, the b4mb1 files can be dangerous if used irresponsibly (as is the case any other potentially addictive stimuli), but that should not be taken to mean that no one should be able to use the b4mb1 files.

tl;dr: L34v3 b4mb1 410n3

https://soundcloud.com/deborah-ford-631012934/B4mb1-dumber-and-hotter

New fan-made B a m b i content~

On the 3rd or 2nd day I used Blank Mindless Doll with the Fucktoy Fantasy session.

Incredibly intense feeling. I think it started off with me getting a panic attack from hyperventilating, so my face and body was tingling and I was getting light headed.

Followed by my forearms and hands falling asleep and raising up into the air slightly by my side. I basically stayed like this for well over an hour, the entire time was a nonstop pleasure train ride. By the end I had become frozen in the bimbo posture.

Even without all the fetish stuff, just the body sensation being completely certain that you were paralized/floating and tingling/pulsing all over was nuts.

If i start listening to this, will this fix me up or does it have it custom triggers that only triggers if the listen only wants to, does it interfere with my daily life?

>>43194

F*ck me up*

>>43176

>it begins

Surprisingly decent quality though, induction was top notch, and effective. But the latter portion of the file felt weaker, especially the end where I was expecting some sort of payoff like a fantasy scenario but nothing like that, just some lame dance music?

Still its going to be interesting to see what fanmade files have to offer, at least it means more of that pleasing Ivona Salli voice.

>>43194

Not bad for a fanmade file, but I do have a few suggestions for improvement.

>You can find the voices that giggle and say "yes" and "no" in Mind Mistress' Happiness session.

>Please, please, please, please don't include male voices, unless he is dominating B4mb1 or cumming a huge load

>>40821

>>40881

I wish I was born a girl so fucking bad

>>43206

Male voices that are fucking B a m b i ‘ s brains away would probably be what pushes me over the edge for good

>>43218

If you can afford hormones and any surgery required, you can feel like one! It's not impossible.

>>43176

I HFO'd at some point during that so good shit.

I prefer the "Yes" voices in your file to the actual B4mb1 files.

Love the humiliation aspect. If you're looking for ideas for future files, I might recommend a B4mb1 file specifically for sissies, that calls them "faggot" and forces the sissy B4mb1 to be permanently impotent.

>>43176

If you're going to just retread the same territory as the original files, why not just remix them? Sounds like it would be easier than from scratch.

>>43238

Holy shit this, the Yes voices, and a future more sissy oriented, degredation as opossed to takeover oriented file pls.

>>43238

>>43247

No thanks, there are other files for that. That's not what B4mb1 is about.

>>43250

This.

The magic, that sets the B4mb1 hypnos apart from all the rest of the sissy hypnos, is the temporary adventure. If you take that away, they are nothing but well crafted generic files.

I wouldn't mind a more specific transformation and subsequent takeover, instead of the intentionally gender unspecific nature of the original, though.

>>43254

Not her, but I LOVE the voice too. But I also love the lack of degradation and humiliation.

>>43259

>But I also love the lack of degradation and humiliation.

Yea other hypnos seem to focus too much on humiliation. It just seems too ridiculous most of the time and immersion breaking.

If I actually was a skinny guy with no muscles and a small dick i can see how they would be effective.

>>41062

I like the theory, you basically described my personality and one of my major interests (all variety of strategy games).

As for trans proclivities, I didn't have any before getting into feminizing hypno either. But I'm fairly open-minded and wouldn't mind living as an actual woman, and definitely one that doesn't over-analyze things nor think as much as I do. Or maybe that's just the hypnosis talking…

>>43259

>>43254

You're putting way too much importance on the TTS. It is the voice along with the best borrowed parts of scripts from other hypno files, the modularity, and sound effects is what makes B4mb1 the gestalt that will ruin your life.

>>43238

>>43247

Once you start adding sissy stuff, you can no longer call it B4mb1. Sissies can be B4mb1s, but not all B4mb1s are sissies. B4mb1 is a higher ideal.

>>43176

it's been taken down

can anybody reup please

>>43268

still there. just need to "correctify" the name

Damn, this is some good shit.

I've been searching for something like this for a long time, something with a solid production, good voice and no typical "femdom/sissy/humiliation/etc…" bullshit. I'm not even that much into bimbo fetish to be honest, but this stuff is just too good.

I really wish there were more hypnos like this, that combined good quality and don't clutter it with stuff that may be irrelevant to its promised effect. Like for example when you listening to some "cum lover" and in the middle of hypno she calls you a small dicked sissy faggot and tells you to worship her. Sure some people are into that, but fuck it, I just want the actual stuff, not the secondary fetishes you put there that break all of the immersion for me.

In contrast B4mb1 files really kept me immersed, even if I was unsure about some parts, it was never on the "ok buddy, keep it to yourself" kind of level.

>>43176

amazing

especially considering it's a fan job

any chance you can share the unlayered files?

i have a question - if you make your own files, do they still work on you? or is it like tickling yourself?

either way, brilliant job

Ordered som panties. This is not going to end well.

>>43328

good girl

What I really wish for is for the uniform requirements to be a little less of a high maintenance. For people who don't have too much of spare time/ don't live alone this is definitely a bit too much.

>>43331

In the original series it explicitly says to wear at least some panties. Anything beyond that is not strictly necessary.

The author has also explained before that this is a security measure to prevent listeners from accidentally falling into B4mb1 trance in their normal clothes.

>>43176

We need more of this

>>43331

If you can`t live with this "high maintenance" than the files probably won`t work on you anyway since your subconscious thinks of it as a burden and not something you want…

>>40942

I don't think I'm that susceptible to suggestion because I routinely over-analyze things and critically think about any information that I'm presented with, even when I agree with it. But in this case I am very open to it because I feel like I can just let go and lose myself in this fantasy. Hypnotic induction is practically a form of guided meditation for me since it silences my thoughts, letting my brain relax. Cumming like a girl is pretty fun too, though

>>42428

The sucking penis is supposed to be the key to unlock your uniform so I'm not sure if it should be part of the uniform itself. No idea if it'd be easier or harder to leave the uniform, since uniform l0ck trigger would lock the cock in your mouth. I do use a anal plug/prostate stimulator though. Also I have sort of a wiffle ball gag (hollow and has holes) that dries my mouth out like fuck. So no.

>>42641

This is so fucking hot. What kind of weed? A-asking for a friend

>>43176

The induction up to like the 25th minute starts off strong and hooks you instantly but after that the rest of the file just wasnt as good, I guess I didnt like the content and theme idk

Really good induction though, I wish more time of the B4mb1 files could be spent in the pink bubble, pink fog and that whole area, explore it more, maybe find mysteries and new encounters in the swirling, enveloping pink fog.

>>43365

should isolate the induction to use with the other B4mb1 modular files

B4mb1 is a franchise now

There was a picture of a playlist on one of the old threads that mixed the file together. I have it saved somewhere but can’t seen to find it, if somebody has it could you upload it and also update it to include some of the new files

>>43176

This is amazing, I loved the humiliation part! wish it had a cum command

>listening to cock zombie

>it has a command to masturbate

reee, now it all contradicts with my chastity fetish

no thanks, I want to focus on a cock I'm supposed to suck, not on touching myself

kinda broke my immersion with this to be honest

>>43572

You should try masturbating like a girl (fingering etc…)

>>43572

I just figured you were supposed to picture it in your mind. I feel pretty paralyzed when listening and moving would ruin the session i imagine.

>>43578

>You should try masturbating like a girl (fingering etc…)

Yes, I discovered that with other files that mention masturbation. Works perfectly!

>>43428

i don't understand why you can't come up with one yourself

anyway, you can follow the OP backlinks until you find it - i think it goes all the way back

>>43595

forgive me, only the previous thread isn't gone forever now

>>43597

There is an archive.

Any tips for better visualizing your b4mb1 self-image? Do you use an actual image(s) of a particular bimbo(s) who you want to look like? Or do you start with your real life face and body image and feminize from there? Do you ever change the image between sessions? I start with my actual self-image, but how do you all visualize b4mb1?

>>43691

Well, in my experience: When I get extremely deep and all or most sugestions work, I don`t really think about my self-image. It`s a bit like beeing drunk… Looking in the mirror I don`t think: Oh that doesn`t look like right. I just feel like a girl and everything that wouldn´t make sense in a way, makes sense. Very hard to describe.

Hypnosis throws "facts" out of the window at least for me.

I think you are looking at hypnosis the wrong way. You don`t consciously think during deeper trance at all, you just listen to the recording and let the sugestions do their work. If your subconscious really wants the changes, then it will make them. And it will do the changes for you not the conscious.

>>43692

was gonna write a big post but no I just want to figure out what my b0dy l0ck3d breasts should look like before trance so I don't become lucid in the middle of the playlist trying to figure out how the hell balloon tits are supposed to look on me

unless you're saying your imagination isn't supposed to imagine the described scenario during a trance, then fuck that, I want to enjoy my trance thanks

>>43713

if by "egregor" you mean "tulpa," then yeah, it does exactly that.

>>43713

> you can really fuck yourself up long term with hypno like this

That is absolutely possible even scientifically speaking. Think about cultists. They don't use hypnosis directly, but many rituals and systems, they employ, have a very similar effect.

Even people, who want to get out, have a hard time getting the brainwashing out of their heads and may need a lot of professional therapy to overcome it. If hypnosis were to be consumed in a similarly continuous fashion, it may well indoctrinate the listener with permanent believes that they would not normally develop.

This is of course very dependent on the individual listener, but it is a possibility.

I don't think the B4mb1 files are particularly toxic in this sense but there are definitely some addiction triggers.

>>43713

"Egregore (also egregor) is an occult concept representing a "thoughtform" or "collective group mind", an autonomous psychic entity made up of, and influencing, the thoughts of a group of people. The symbiotic relationship between an egregore and its group has been compared to the more recent, non-occult concepts of the corporation (as a legal entity) and the meme."

Epic.

>>43713

Literally all of the things in that quote apply to any set of sexually themed hypno files. She's basically saying sexual gratification and popular hypno = bad, then goes on to listen to and shill for SB. Really makes you think.

There is a legitimate concern regarding the power of the 64mb1 cult over its members. The cult provides a positive feedback loop of reinforced delusion created by an echo chamber and roleplay, until the person who is just "acting" or "faking it" habitualizes their behavior and fully believes the delusion, at which point the delusion is their reality. But the cult and its members get repeatedly shit-talked by practically everyone on this board, which weakens the power of the cult egregor. This peer pressure also means that people that haven't joined the cult are much less likely to get too deep in this shit in the first place.

>I don't want to dismiss the [/x/ tier approach] just in case they're actually right…

They're right for the wrong reasons. Muh spoopy magics make people do stuff

>>43717

>the cult and its members get repeatedly shit-talked by practically everyone on this board

Rightfully so! The cult, or members of it, have repeatedly claimed impossible effects caused by the hypnosis (like permanent loss of intelligence) and acted out their B4mb1 persona in the previous threads, polluting them with stupid gibberish.

This is a board for discussion about hypnosis, mostly of the erotic type, not larping.

If you have proper hypnosis, you also hardly need any form of hive mind group pressure and alike.

>>43714

>if by "egregor" you mean "tulpa," then yeah, it does exactly that.

Not quite. See this:

https://www.likera.com/forum/mybb/Thread-General-hypnosis-discussion?pid=30437#pid30437

>>43731

>Thats a weird negative view on what might be the holy grail of hypno.

It's actually an appropriate description for those who aren't worthy of obtaining the Grail.

>>43777

It's just conditioning you to get off to things you normally wouldn't. Even if you consciously find them distasteful.

I'm sure you remember a time when you were younger and discovered you had a weird fetish. You probably went through the same stages of indulgence, crushing guilt, depression, then

just 'fuck it' after realizing you're far from the only one and it isn't even that weird compared to everything else.

Then later, you acquire more in the same fashion as fetishes tend to spread like cerebral STD's you get from partners you enjoy. In some cases, a virtual or simulated partner. The B4mb1 files.

I guess that's where the cult comes in, as this fetish is impossibly difficult to do anything constructive with socially. Unless you fancy sucking the dicks of total and often abusive strangers, which no sane person does.

It serves the purpose of normalizing this to mitigate the guilt and there's no reason why it wouldn't form naturally all on its own. What makes

it so insufferable is its purely lowest common denominator.

I said that before.

But i think you need a reminder.

B4mb1 stuff is not a fantasy or kink, it's closer to MkUltra.

"This is not gonna end the way you think"

This will create Dissociative Identity Disorder, shatter your mind into two

Eventually your conscious mind will step back, saying "fuck that shit" and take the back seat, and only thing you will be left is B4mb1 identity, unable to say more than five words, asking anybody to suck their cocks.

Think about it, how your families respond to your changes, where this will lead you, secluded place for sure.

>>43781

It's about as close to that as an airsoft gun is to an actual assault weapon. There's no comparison.

>>43781

MKUltra was a disastrous waste of money and credibility.

If anything, it proved that you cannot reliably influence people though mind control hypnosis and/or drugs (intended as truth serums), and that there is a chance to induce mental problems. There were too many variables and to little scientific knowledge involved. In many cases it is easier to persuade someone traditionally than to try MKUltra approaches.

Multiple personality disorder is more likely evoked by a severely traumatic experience. Hypnosis is absolutely capable of simulating such mental trauma but the B4mb1 files don't really seem to to be all too traumatic to the listener.

That doesn't mean there is no chance of mental disorders. I just feel like they are overemphasized here compared to most other sissification hypno.

great discussion

keep it going in the new thread, we just hit bump limit

>>43787

>>43787

>>43787

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>>43784

>>43786

B4mb1 ends with demonic possession experience.

There is no kink or sex in that.

Then how would you call it if not Dissociative Identity Disorder?

what just happened? the board went back in time?

i made a new thread and linked it from here, then it was deleted and the post linking it also?

>>43792

nevermind, used the instructions on the 404 page to make a post, now it seems to work fine

>>43795

Then you are lost.

Sometimes it feels like talking to a wall.

Maybe you are brainwashed to the point of no return.

But i don't belive in that.

Find me on Discord.

I don't want to discuss here with other B4mb1 occultists.

>>43799

I'm pale, and i don't smoke.

Cultists are here as well.

Self awareness won't stop your subconscious from degradateing.

Guess you need to experience that for yourself.

Brainwashing and self awareness aren't compatible baka, your accusations make no sense

What point are you even trying to make, apart from fearmongering

>muh MK Ultra

>>43806

forgot muh quote >>43803

>>43806

>>43807

Lol

I don't talk to anonymous.

Find me on Discord for further talk

TopKek#0450

>>43814

cringe

See

You can't even take the challenge.

Because i remember you all.

Stupid B4mb1's from discord.

>>43822

I don't use shitcord though

test

>>43814

different anon

I've added you, need to talk to you

never been so entranced

so hot