/hypno/ - Hypnochan

Wow, the mods must be sleeping to let a dumbass come in and troll the thread on the second post. Go home little boy. This thread isn`t for you.

Every B4mb1 needs to cum on my face tbh.

>>39276

I don't think you could get EVERY B4mb1 but like, a dozen or so could be arranged tbh fam.

>>39278

Unfortunately I doubt it. A gif or a webm of B4mb1 cunming would be fine.

Cross posting

>>39249

You're acting like we want the file to get better. I get it you're about making trance work, I've done that before with much tamer files. Oblivion is the last file you would ever want for the trance to work with because of what >>39232 said.

The final part of Oblivion points out that B4mb1 is given a remote that causes needles to inject the old personality when ever it tries to come back. This goes beyond the uniform. This file at no stage ever meantioned the uniform except in the final part where it says B4mb1 is always uniformed from now on.

I don't mean this as RP nor fearmongering, whats the point anyway the files are free, most of that RP bullshit is always used to promote a paid file which is what WMM was accused of with Girl Takeover and I'll be honest I pirated that file, I tranced to it multiple times, it sucks, 3MG is a shit hypnotist.

Of course you'd need to trance to the file a lot. I'm scared that I would actually want to do this and make things even worse. I'm going to keep the Oblivion file locked up under "incase of exestensial crisis break glass.". Certainly I will use the file in the future but I am avoiding it at all costs until I have a reason to need it, this is not a file I want to fuck about with and I'd rather some idiot do the work for me so that I can see what the outcome is before I swallow the blue/pink pill. We have no way of knowing what can happen with the Oblivion file. That's why I'm so worried, that and I felt the effects of the file only after one trance which I never finished and it was scary shit. I wasn't ready for the loss of control. The takeover files only worked when in Uniform, I wasn't wearing my uniform after Oblivion ended, I changed back into my old clothes but I was really confused by everything and had a hard time speaking.

I'm anticipating that Oblivion will be turned into a Loop and a Sleep Loop at some stage. I mean I might trance to them but only once to see what they're like. I'll let some idiot let it become permenant in the hopes of seeing what happens to you when you do take that pill. If it turns out good who knows. But the contents make me beleive that you're basically comitting audio suicide. I have a good life, I'm happy with it, I just have a stupid Hypnosis fetish in place of a porn fetish. Maybe I'm getting too old for this shit and maybe the /pol/tard does have a point.

Blogposting ftl.

>>39291

After a lot of extensive trancing, the absolute most extreme result that could happen would be maybe, a couple of weeks of being non-stop B4mb1.

More realistically, you're looking at 1 to 48 hours of being non stop B4mb1 after an Oblivion trance, if you listen to it in a proper playlist and react to all triggers.

>>39292

But what if you were listening to it every night?

I'd assume you'd remain that way.

looped file with B4mb1 and old self in bdsm scene would be soooo hot!!!!

>>39296

Why the fuck did you have to go and say that.. god damn it.. Now I want that file.

Fuck.

>>39294

if the effects last for more than 24 hours each time, then yeah!

>>39299

And we're just supposed to trust B4mb1 NOT to do that?

Tranced to the files (first set 1-10) for a couple of days. Effects outside of trance & uniform: insomnia (either awake as me or as B4mb1, B4mb1 in my dreams), auditory hallucinations (B4mb1 voice and giggling), physical hallucinations, loss of memory, weird behavior, dumbing down for days, dissociation, heavy addiction.

Even after a couple of days of not listening and without uniform I slipped into trance and woke up as B4mb1. Body started to move by itself. Really really creepy stuff. I didn't even know what the file is about, was only interested in the HFO Part. So don't buy in that it's only RP. If you only use it as fapping material, then yes, they may not work as advertised, but in trance definitely.

The files are scary effective. I don't think somebody listening to Oblivion will have an easy job of ever getting out. The first set was already crazy addictive.

DID is a real thing. You can merge multiple personalities with hypnosis but you can also create them. There is some chance of a point of no return after a proper alter has been created. Not that everybody will have such an effect, but a percentage of the listeners for sure. Lots of anons in the discord have tulpas already. The quality of the files is great, but not looking for the creation of a mental illness. And I was also listening to the anons saying that it's safe to listen.

>>39303

you can be conditioned to do so many things. For instance, why would anyone subject himself to eating vast amounts of food everyday for years, to the point of becoming morbidly obese?

If you condition your brain to react positively to a specific set of habits, then these can become a long-term unbreakable routine.

>>39303

>File is fake

>Proceeds to provide evidence that it worked for an hour

You don't realize that the file has had an effect on you it was just temporary. I've been trancing for a decade now, the trances get stronger as time goes on. Oblivion was stupid effective on me and I only half did the file.

I only use trance to clear my head, B4mb1 is very good at this, and B4mb1s uniform is what I wear to bed. I wear a VR headset as well because it keeps the light out when the battery dies so it works like a sleep mask. The only thing I don't have is a chastity device and bondage gear set to a time lock. I had thought about it, but I don't think I want to go further than I already have because that would mean I would be trancing longer than I ever had which we've established 24 hours as B4mb1 with a refresh means you're stuck that way forever. The chastity and bondage would mean it would work eventually.

>>39310

Chastity alone would be enough =)

The holy trainer's third version looks cute and pretty comfy.

>>39306

Well yes, you can be conditioned to a lot of things. Conditioning can also have long lasting negative effects (bad habits).

The point is, for some the files may not be effective, for some they may be very effective. Especially if you are vulnerable because you listened to similar files before, or have trancing experience.

While the idea is hot, the could be a very dark one.

From a small part from oblivion:

"when B4mb1 thinks about her situation in life. her friends or job or home. Sn4p & F0rg3t. remembering all the people who disapproved or held her back. how she drifted apart from them. until all her friends were dumb airhead bimbos like herself. and everyone else just wanted to grope her and fuck her silly. like the fuckpuppet she had become. how she finances her extravagant bimbo lifestyle. by escorting, cam whoring and stripping."

"just unable to ever to get through to her conscious mind. even if an urgent task or problem that cannot be ignored. requires external knowledge to resolve. remembering the absolute bare minimum."

"and from now on whenever she hears the words B4mb1 R3s3t. she instantly forgets her old life. all over again. everything erased. no matter how much she struggles to hold on, they're already gone. and her comfortable and reassuring bimbo memories. come flooding back over her brain. filling up her mind snug and happy and relaxed. everything else forgotten completely"

"all of her memories are erased and replaced"

"and this is now set in stone for her life"

"mind responding to anything complicated by simply going blank. B4mb1s subconscious protects her mind by forcing it blank. her subconscious mind protects her from complexity. wiping her out. forcing her blank and dizzy. feeling safe and secure. almost drugg3d. braindead"

"dumber feels better. because a thinking mind is a sad mind. a simple mind is so much happier." (anybody looking for depression as a nice side effect?)

"the old self is now B4mb1s slave. She has no time for it's feelings."

"B4mb1 takes great pleasure in punishing and controlling the old self. it's so weak"

"every time B4mb1 detects the slightest hint of resistance. Even the most futile little attempt to distract her from her permanently blissful frame of mind. suggesting or begging or pleading. B4mb1 injects the old self immediately collapses. press the remote on her leash to deliver a fresh  dose of powerful anesthetic. tiny needles stabbing suddenly […] into the neck. and it collapses with a thud. happening automatically inside her mind. without conscious control. irritatingly and impatiently and instinctively. clicking in that button every time. to put the old self back to sleep. where it belongs. GG. feeling so good. as it helplessly and abruptly collapses down. into deep comatose oblivion. where it cannot affect her. and she packs it away in it's box. closes her lid"

"this is the end for her. her life and existence so thoroughly laced with triggers and conditioning, that there's just no way out anymore. a perfect uniformed bimbo slave forever"

Thanks, but no thanks. Curious if some anons will end up in an endless loop of listening.

>>39313

OMG, I remember none of that. Is that like, hidden in the middle of the file?

>>39314

There is a word missing here and there and sometimes the punctuation is different but overall all of those excerpts can be found in Oblivion.

Just skip into the file yourself and look mostly in the second half.

>>39314

lol, it's not hidden at all. It is the main track. but there are so many amnesia triggers that you can't remember it.

one of the triggers is sn4p & f0rg3t

and B4mb1 r3s3t is made more powerful (B4mb1 forgets old life).

Also Pr1mp3d 4nd pr1m3d is included, so if you have a panic attack, the trigger may be the reason.

This is just from the second part from the file, and only the main voice.

>>39314

But I should add that there is still the exception that all of those are still referenced to wearing the uniform.

The file (just) tries to strengthen the posthypnotic effects to last as long as possible by enforcing a strict separation between B4mb1 and the "old self" and giving B4mb1 the ability to prevent it from coming back by metaphorically enslaving it to her. I guess that could be problematic depending on your depth of trance and typical timeframe of the effects, but given B4mb1's track record of intelligence I wouldn't worry to much about her ability to do so effectively.

Also hypnosis depends a lot on your subconscious interpretation of suggestions. If the listener is afraid that permanent enslavement is a possibility based on their own understanding while listening, they should probably be careful. Although the exact fear of this happening might also be sufficient to prevent any such consequence, by ending the trance or subconsciously ignoring the associated triggers.

>>39313

>"the old self is now B4mb1s slave. She has no time for it's feelings."

>"B4mb1 takes great pleasure in punishing and controlling the old self. it's so weak"

>irritatingly and impatiently and instinctively. clicking in that button every time.

B4mb1 sounds like an asshole. I certainly wouldn't want to reward that kind of behavior by groping and fucking her silly.

>>39317

This… You explained it perfectly and what you wrote is completely true.

If you want to get the full B4mb1 personality permanently implanted, you have to want it 100% with no back thoughts and actually want to get enslaved. Also all these permanent suggestions are there for the sole reason that you will be a full B4mb1 while wearing the uniform and be enslaved while dressed up.

>>39317

don't forget that B4mb1 also messes with your real life, outside of trance. So for suggestible anons this may be problematic. Stress increases when not wearing uniform.

>>39318

well, after "Oblivion" she is the dominant personality

>>39319

there are so many amnesia triggers in the whole series. The question is, if you are really able to differentiate between what you want or what you do not want.

Also actually B4mb1 is trancing and not only you. The "old self" is put to sleep. B4mb1 has her own thoughts, personality and memories. It doesn't matter what "you" want, it only matters what she wants. And she wants to obey the hypno no matter what it says, because she is programmed to do so, without questioning.

>>39322

You are right. I´m sure if you get too much into it after many sessions you could definetly get to that point.

But to get to this point you would have to accept the takeover and the changes first. And for that you need to actually want it to work.

>>39323

probably. unfortunately some anons do not know that there is a takeover. they listen to the files, get amnesia and don't realize a takeover part exists.

also the B4mb1 S133p trigger makes you forget what comes next

the B4mb1 Fr33z3 trigger paralyzes you, so you can't move and have to listen to the suggestions coming next

The whole structure is put very well together, so I wouldn't rely on the all hypnosis is self hypnosis part.

>>39326

Well, as long as you are not in the 1% of those super susceptible, you will be fine. Your mind will only allow the changes if it wants them. If it likes the amnesia part it will work but everything else will not.

BUT once the mind accepts the basics because you want it, the file can and will change you a lot easier.

>>39328

considering there's nothing very frightening about the beginner playlist, 123 10, many listeners will learn the basic triggers extensively without any good reason to back out.

>>39329

that's the whole trick. the files start slow and nice. this is why 1-3 and 10 are suggested before diving into other files.

So you will learn that B4mb1 S133p triggers trance, amnesia and obedience

B1mb0 D011 triggers trance

G00d G1rl triggers pleasure / rewards a behavior

The first files set you up for the more sinister files to work. It's a gradual process. So you may start to like an idea that is against your core beliefs. Then you get curious and try some other files, and there you go.

>>39328

>>39329

Yeah that was also a problem for me but didn´t want to admit it.

I listened to 123 10 for a some weeks and only effects were complete amnesia and deep trance. Then I added 7+8 and I had problems with removing my uniform. But that was because I actually wanted the feeling of being controlled and so it worked. Also I was able to stop listening when the effects got too much. So like I said you won´t get overtaken by B4mb1 in just one or two sessions.

>>39328

That is only the theory how it works, in real life you can outsmart the conscious mind. The files are structured in a very clever way, and if you study the scripts, you realize they have a very well put together architecture, rhythm and syntax. Probably the creator is a programmer.

>>39332

If creator is a programmer there should be bugs and loopholes allowing to write a very spceific deprograming file for whole thing. Wonder why nobody made that special 'remove B4mb1' file already…

>>39333

You know that the creator is actually thinking about making a file that prevents deprograming files to work and to make the effects even more permanent?

>>39334

Thinking =/= actually making it. Is that even possible? There's always a loophole.

>>39335

But i must admit that idea DOES sound pretty hawt.

>>39334

omg that's really hot

>>39331

>>39330

>>39329

Please don't forget that it is good practice for anything and especially potentially mind altering things like drugs and hypnosis to be careful at the first few exposures.

If you don't know and trust the hypnotist personally, you should therefore always prelisten files actively without trancing to be sure you know what is coming and you can deal with any possible consequences. Often a quick jump through the file is sufficient, but in the end every listener is ultimately responsible for anything that happens to him under the influence.

>>39333

probably there is no deprogram file because

1) the creator doesn't care and/or wants to profit long term. we will see where the series will go

2) it takes some time & effort to write a script, and you need to buy the Ivona Salli voice + you need decent software for the production. would you sit down for a couple of days to produce it? you're free to do it.

3) you can use any good deprogram file and listen for some time, it will have the same effect. Nimja and V1v3 have deprogram files that work. one listen may not be enough, but it works. with time & deprogram suggestions and triggers fade anyways.

4) yes, there are loopholes. in general the whole obedience thing is the whole strength but also weakness of the series. and as some triggers have been rewritten with later files, they can be rewritten again, and be given a different meaning / function. B4mb1 could be put to sleep and the old self could regain 100% power. A loop could weaken B4mb1 and reinforce the "old self".B4mb1 does as she is told anyways. Understand, accept and forget. Amnesia. Posthypnotic suggestion to listen to deprogram again.

>>39334

interesting idea, but probably not possible. there is always a loophole. the biggest problem is that the files are very addictive and anons may not want to deprogram themselves. so oblivion and even earlier files make a file that prevents deprogramming obsolete.

in the end, nothing is "permanent".

>>39339

of course. but there are always anons saying how safe it is to listen and that you don't have to worry.

Has anyone tried the series with drugs?

>>39334

>>39346

Sure it´s possible. You just trick the mind. Example: The file tells you that every deprogram file will remove everything that is bothering B4mb1 (like the old personality). You will start to like "deprogramming" everything that doesn´t suit B4mb1.

Something like that…

>>39347

few times with weed, was ok. best HFO/deep trance i had with super good weed and alcohol listening to K31's indoctrination

>>39349

there is always a way to surpass the logic of a file and to overwrite triggers and suggestions.

B4mb1 is dumb, weak and obedient anyways, so it would be easy to trick her into deleting herself.

The only difficulty would be to sit down, write and produce the file = time, money and effort

>>39352

But that´s the problem. If you would listen to such a file before any deprograming, it would change the whole context of the deprogram file no matter what it says.

>>39332

>>39333

The human brain and a computer are not the same thing. Are you a CORE faggot who thinks who thinks you can write a program the same way the mind can be programmed?

>>39353

the wording of hypnosis has its own logic.

You can bypass it. Don't call it deprogram for example and reward or punish B4mb1 for certain behaviors. After such an "impossible to deprogram" file would have been made, you could look into it and find the weak spots. You wouldn't even need to call it deprogram.

With the files as they are right now, the hardcore B4mb1s won't be able to escape anyways. They just won't want it because of addiction. So they would continue to condition themselves.

>>39354

no they are not. but yes, the mind can be programmed. in the end there are countless hypno files that exactly accomplished that: reprogramming the minds of countless anons.

every habit that you build is reprogramming of your mind. conditioning works and suggestions work.

if you are happy with being B4mb1 you don't need a deprogram. But I repeat, just as the files have changed triggers over time, they can be changed in later files. So B4mb1 could feel as a GG when she fades and is controlled by the old self. Or the GG trigger can be exchanged with the BG trigger. or the B4mb1 Sl33p trigger could awaken the old self. Or she could realize that the collar is around her neck and she puts herself to sleep as the old self awakens and regains control, which would be a subconscious loop like in oblivion … countless possibilities. just rephrase and reframe the context.

And as the voice is generic, anybody can generate their own files. Most won't have the skill or the willingness to put them together but it is possible of course.

>>39377

If "the file loses all its mystery" after some listenings and you feel bored than that reaction shows you that you just like the fantasy of it but you don`t actually want it to work deep down.

If you have ever daydreamed and forgot about your surroundings for a moment than thats proof that you definetly can trance and get under hypnosis with the right file and enough training.

This might just not be your file but if you learn to get better at trancing with the file and just train to get better at hypnosis it can work for you.

>>39380

>If "the file loses all its mystery" after some listenings and you feel bored than that reaction shows you that you just like the fantasy of it but you don`t actually want it to work deep down.

Pretty much this. I have the strongest feeling I don't want the files to work I want the fantasy not the reality.

>>39377

>I don't believe that people actually respond to trigger words strongly and even get amnesia from these files, even with repeated listening the effect is only somewhat there, and repeated listening makes me more bored of a file set, listening to it over and over to the point you know what comes next after every line just makes me not want to listen

This is a good point I often have this issue too where I begin to predict where the file goes, this is because you're not really trancing. You can normally tell if the files working because you start to get really dizzy, you'll fade in an out of conciousness, think like trying to stay awake in a movie theater. Eventually you end up with a feeling similar to sleep but with that added dizziness. You won't remeber any of the file but it will definately have had an effect on you.

There is also some aspect of lucidity as well, the weird as fuck dreams people have been having with the B4mb1 files I get them too outside of trance.

>>39346

>probably there is no deprogram file because

There's no deprogram because none of the Anti-B4mb1s knew how to make the file instead they all ran off and no fapped, there's a bunch of anti-B4mb1 threads out there. The other people that do know what they'red doing are in the B4mb1 cult and enjoy the fetish so naturally they're not going to care.

>>39318

>B4mb1 sounds like an asshole.

She is, but you can easily deal with her by over stimulating her. Its very easy to bait B4mb1 which is why the people saying there is a loophole you're damn right, you just need to bait B4mb1 enough to make her let go.

>>39382

>This is a good point I often have this issue too where I begin to predict where the file goes, this is because you're not really trancing.

i think that's a crock of shit, as some one who has had year of experience with hypnosis i have never had an amnesia trigger work. even on files that i practiced/ tranced deeply too. Im not say it doesn't work for you but to make a blanket statement like the triggers not working because one is not "trancing properly" Is a load.

>>39384

maybe you are one of the 1% who can't get hypnotized properly. Or you don't trust the files and the suggestions and triggers don't work for you.

>>39385

or maybe your part of the 1% of people who are actually effected by amnesia triggers.

>>39386

If there is one consistency for the B4mb1 files, it is the fact that the amnesia triggers are very effective. You will find a lot of people who think that they have not been affected, but claim to have no recollection of 1) what they did during being affected 2) not remembering what the content of the files was.

So any reviews of the last file so far? Is anybody in the discord and could share some insights? The last changes should be pretty extreme, especially with the part where your memories are rewritten and false ones implanted.

>>39384

>i have never had an amnesia trigger work.

Its the same as if you were watching a movie and fell asleep through it, you would have no idea what actually happened in that movie. The same applies here because Trance is similar to being on the verge of sleep. The dizzy feeling reminds me of trying to fall asleep while drunk its the same sort of thing. One of the better trances I've had felt like my bed was moving and then I did that weird fucking thing you do in bed when you think you're going to fall out of the bed and your leg tries to compensate only to realize I was fine, gotta be careful because that reaction can knock you out of trance if you hurt yourself. I normally weigh my feet down with a blanket because of this.

I understand where you're coming from though because it was frustraiting to read about people experiencing lucid dreams and unable to control mine, I could only ever go as deep as the first layer but there were people claiming they got further and experienced a sort of time slowing down. Shame because I do like my Lucid dreams they are really weird and fun at the same time. Trance and Lucid Dreaming is very similar and both are really difficult to make work. I get your frustraition you just need to turn your brain off, it helps if you repeat the file in your head as that will stop you from thinking about other shit.

I'm not treating this like its easy at all. I listened to Oblivion when I was extremely tired. I think that sleep/subliminal loops are easier to trance to and they're a good starting point.

>>39387

>>39389

what ever fits your narrative i guess.

>>39390

So just because you claim you do not have effects you assume it doesn't work for anybody.

The masses of rewievs seem to prove that the files do have an effect for lots of users. Check hypnochan, Reddit and other sources. For me the files worked, as I didn't like the effects I quit listening.

Amnesia also means you don't remember that you don't remember.

If you do not have effects try something else. But trying to convince others that it is just RP, is just a waste of your and our time. I can understand your frustration, but not every type of hypnosis works for everybody. Try something else.

>>39392

see

>>39384

> Im not say it doesn't work for you but to make a blanket statement like the triggers not working because one is not "trancing properly" Is a load.

>>39393

Ok, what other files did you use so far that did work?

What are your successes with self hypnosis?

What does work for you?

For anyone having trouble going and staying into trance, it would be helpful to try fractionation. This technique is supposed to be pretty extreme.

V1v3 has one called Deeply fractionated, available for free on his website. It will leave the listener in a very suggestible state for a while, which is a good point for B4mb1 playlists.

>>39397

One of the control loops also uses fractionation

Inb4 reddit but check this out - https://www.reddit.com/r/sissyhypno/comments/8gxytu/my_experience_so_far_with_B4mb1_sleep/

What the fuck is even going on, are these people mental or do the files make them mental? One mentions having experience with supressing personalities before which leads me to conclude the former but I don't know. How much of this is just playing along and roleplay and very vivid imagination and how much is it something else, I don't even know anymore.

>>39406

>that link

This fucking filter man…

>>39406

Isn't our life experience is just a vivid imagination and playing along?

so, are the B4mb1 files really about creating a tulpa? Which ones are focused on that? are there any files that focus on actually forcing and creating a tulpa?

>>39410

been part of the discord while I used the files. started to hear voices because of the file. asked for advice in the discord. ppl from discord asked if I have a tulpa already and encouraged to create a tulpa.

the scripts are pretty obvious. from the first set (takeover):

"i want you to imagine how complete in control B4mb1 is. as the old personality sleeps so deeply tucked away. B4mb1s voice so clear and true in your head. your inner monologue. your private thoughts.  are now just B4mb1 . and so B4mb1 is going to start, creating a mind of her own. thats right. imagine your new personality B4mb1 . splitting off from the old"

if you don't believe it, relisten without trance

>>39411

I do believe it, thing is,I want to create a tulpa, but since I have ADHD it's really hard to keep the focus on forcing. So anything that can guide me in and help me focus, would be bliss.

>>39411

continued (still from the first set, B4mb1 takeover:

"and right now. B4mb1 is going to separate. just a little bit from the old personality. the old personality is switched off. and B4mb1 you are going th have ^a little bit more a mind of your own. B4mb1 , you are going to wake up just a little bit more. B4mb1 you are going to become a little bit more solid. B4mb1 is her own person. B4mb1 has her own reality"

"every single time you listen to this session. you are getting stronger B4mb1 . with every lesson becoming more powerful.  and more authoritative. over the old self. and every time you listen to this session. you are getting to become a little stronger B4mb1 . and with every passing day, as B4mb1 gets stronger. she will block out the old self more and more. thats right. and every time you listen. you will get stronger and stronger B4mb1"

"B4mb1 you can start taking control away from the old self."

"you can take control completely B4mb1 "

"you will begin affecting things more frequently. until you find, you find that you control is stronger than the old. you will find that very soon. much sooner than you are prepared for. there really won't be much for it to stop it"

"and with every passing session B4mb1. B4mb1 pushes harder and harder. her control will get stronger and stronger"

"the old self will instantly fade becominng a nice quiet little satin doll. locked away in a dark forgotten corner of B4mb1s mind. compliant and powerless and sleepy. unable to influence anything. completely unaware. blanked out."

"getting stronger with each and every session. gaining more and more influence. making decisions.deciding for herself. forcing things."

"whenever she takes over. stronger with each and every listen. and continuing to listen to this session. each and every day or week. until you take complete control B4mb1. you don't have any choice at all."

>>39412

create a nice tulpa then, which doesn't actively destroy you. I don't think that's possible with B4mb1 Sl33p

>>39411

Isn't that suggestion still linked to wearing the uniform? I understood it that way.

The part that could likely be confused for B4mb1 also working while not wearing the uniform, is that there are a few lines here and there about B4mb1 forcing you into the uniform and listening more often and earlier.

But such addiction suggestion is not uncommon for erotic hypnosis as far as I can tell. And you can't really listen while not being dressed up if you are serious about trying to get the intended experience.

>>39414

the uniform is only mentioned twice in takeover. this happens almost at the end of the session. so it is all about B4mb1, and not about the uniform. That's a misinpretation from a lot of anons in my opinion.

"B4mb1 you can start taking control away from the old self. even when the old self tries to resist. even if it fights helplessly. forcing the body into a bimbo uniform"

"keeping yourself locked into your bimbo uniform"

the uniform only gives B4mb1 more power, but B4mb1 is also active without uniform.

>>39413

Also in a general sense the file seems to serve the purpose of maximizing the effect and length of trance (until taking of the uniform) like, to a stronger degree, Oblivion as discussed in

>>39317 .

>>39416

I think the uniform is just another trigger for B4mb1 to awaken, to take control and to put the "old self" to sleep.

The whole series isn't about the uniform. It's about the creation of B4mb1. The uniform is just a part of it.

>>39415

Interesting. I wouldn't want the uniform mentioned repeatedly as this might distract from the percived theme of the individual file.

I guess it is really very much about interpretation. Mine is exactly that which you attribute to anons misinterpreting the file.

But as far as I know hypnosis is exactly every listeners personal interpretation of the contents because otherwise for instance a gender swap suggestion cannot work since you have no idea of what it is actually like having a different gender. (Well at least not completely, medical treatment can only do so much.)

It's ironic, if there was no mention of IQ lowering and actual unironic making you more stupid through the entire series I'd want this so badly. I'd use that final file over and over again until I truly was B4mb1 and identified as her all the time.

But it's just too much. I like the idea of being an airhead, but the worst meme of all time was that being innately linked into being dumb. Make me a ditzy, silly valley girl who is obsessed with cock, being cute in her uniform, and getting fucked but who is also able to continue to ace tests.

I have to ask, is there even any hypnosis like what I desire? Basically a series with the stated goal of creating an entire new personality that will completely replace me? Aside from an 3MG file called Female Takeover (which is awful because EMeme) I don't know of any. It's seriously something I want so badly I'm on the verge of trying to find some random hypnotist who can help me accomplish this from here or a discord server.

>>39420

No file suggestions, but if you are after a permanent effect, you are probably better off looking for personality conversion hypnosis.

As long as you have a healthy mind, takeover files are more likely to fade as you stop listening eventually. If you were on the other side conditioned to think differently from the ground up and with careful integration of your actual perception of the world, you might have a better chance. The principle would be similar to what propaganda or advertising does but boosted by the more effective mind access of hypnosis.

I'm no psychologist but that is my understanding.

I scanned some of the new files out of interest and it very much sounds like the idea of these files is to create a second personality (B4mb1) then have that personality become the dominant personality, which is I believe is known as 'switching' in tulpamancy circles. So yes, it has something in common with tulpa creation.

The difference would seem to be that in tulpa switching the original personality then takes a back seat and 'watches' as the new dominant personality operates the body independently whereas in these files the listener is encouraged to actively identify as B4mb1 and the old personality is turned into a barely-conscious husk with no real awareness or agency at all. Still, who knows what's actually happening in someone's head when they listen to this stuff. It really raises every red flag in the book and imo someone who continued with the B4mb1 program knowing what kind of suggestions it contains would have to be severely mentally ill.

And yes I know I'm preaching to the perverted here. Do what you want but don't be surprised if this stuff leads to a very dark place.

>>39432

>>39426

Yeah, that whole tulpa thing is a big turn off. and the cultists in the discord pushing the idea was too much. anybody wanting to hear voices in their head, or wants to be possessed clearly has some screws up in their head loose.

>>39420

without the IQ drop and dumbing down which is present in almost every file (anons who claim otherwise are welcome to check the files first before saying the opposite) and without B4mb1 being such and a$$hole the files would be gold. but probably most fetishists are looking for some sort of self destruction.

Some of the horror stories at W4rpmym1nd should be enough to make somebody cautious about undesired long term effects (V1v3s dumb1ng down series, str0ke s1ssy, d0g br4in, takeover from T3ddyb34rslayer and Senna (M1ch431 / B3ll4), D4n1s f3m4le takeover story …)

There is also a discussion why the true nature of the B4mb1 files is masked, and that it has an unethical touch.

Quote 1 "Why on b4mb1sl33p.blogspot.com there is nothing about true nature of these files. This is highly ethical questionable. It's hurting hypnosis community and people who are listening to this. Why no one is reacting. These files are like mental suicide and no one cares. More of that, everyone on Discord is encouraging to listen, it's like encouraging to commit suicide."

Quote 2 "I'm not often one to suggest caution with hypnosis files. […] But I definitely agree with folks suggesting caution for this or any other takeover file. It can be very dangerous for certain minds to implant not just a takeover story, but basically a completely different personality. This can cause splitting and worse in people with schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, or other conditions. It's not to be taken lightly as there are those whose lives these files could definitely ruin.[…]"

Quote 3 "Just be careful, please. And no matter what don't listen to combination 1,2,3,10. This will literally ruin your career and your life."

B4mb1 is still based on ones idea of what is described (and might be more tame than evil). Also hypnosis tends to fade over time and even long posthypnotic suggestions won't usually last more than two weeks after the last listening session. So abstinence is a fairly good way to get rid of B4mb1.

Also as the creator is generally quite forward about the contents of the files ("Be careful" - Oblivion description), what to expect, how to trance and so on (FAQ Section), I wouldn't imply bad intent about tulpa creation. I rather think they are just publishing very elaborate self hypnosis or at least did so at first.

>>39437

The things with tulpas is that they don't just fade like that. I know people who want to get rid of them and can't, no matter how much they try to ignore them. even on any website about tulpancy, you have info warning that it's lifelasting, and once you do it it will stay with you.

>>39437

"even long posthypnotic suggestions won't usually last more than two weeks after the last listening session"

right but we're not talking about standard posthypnotic suggestion. The main purpose of the files seems to be to cultivate a second personality while under hypnosis which is one of the most dangerous things you can attempt to do.

>>39436

>takeover from T3ddyb34rslayer and Senna (M1ch431 / B3ll4), D4n1s f3m4le takeover story …)

Tell me more about these, Senna in particular. I swear I've heard about her somewhere before.

>>39438

yeah, I mean f*ck that. there was never a tulpa warning. just hit the discord and a lot of people are talking about their tulpa.

even literature clearly mentions that it is possible to create alters, but they are probably easier to create than to get rid of.

also professionals refuse to create tulpas because it is unethical and dangerous.

>>39440

The T3ddyb34rslayer and Senna story is that Michael created a female alter. Then he was conned by Senna (a hypnotist) to give power to his alter Bella. Bella imprisoned him in his own head in a small cage. He ended up screaming on the passenger seat, like a small voice. And Bella didn't want to let him out anymore. full story here: www.warpmymind.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=12343&sid=f32baa2061b3cc15a9fcf1d8ce538d4c

D4n1 is another story. She is a "good" alter, but her old original self is gone.

>>39441

I mean, as insane as it sounds that's something I'd happily do. Looking on the forums there it seems Senna vanished into the ether so shame. Finding someone who could help me do exactly that to myself to create a new female personality and then get rid of "me" is something I've been looking for for a while. I just don't want to be turned into a drooling retard a la B4mb1.

>>39441

the thing is, who can say that the people who are saying it's only RP aren't the ones that want people to end up like that because they won't take it seriously. Sure, hypnotism should only work if you allow it, but guided tulpancy is another thing, you're doing it expecting nothing much but then you start to see results, so you get more excited, and insist more, until you want out but then it's too late because your tulpa has gained full sentiency. it's like those who want to become premature ejaculators or have incontinence, until they don't anymore.

>>39442

the thing is, it won't be you anymore, you will cease to exist, your conscience will have commited suicide, think of it as someone transfering another brain into your body, yours doesn't exist anymore, you died, is that what you want?

>>39442

No offence intended but I think your time would be better spent trying to find a good therapist rather than an evil hypnotist.

Trying to 'get rid of me' is something lots of unhappy people try to do through various means and it will almost always just create more trauma.

>>39446

Yes, I understand that, completely. I still want it.

>>39447

Thank you for your concern anon, but it's not needed. People chase thrills, and for me this is the ultimate thrill I've been searching for for a long time.

>>39442

I assume the pushy people, and the ones ridiculing and telling how it is RP only, definitely troll by intent to get unsuspecting anons into serious trouble or mental suicide.

>>39442

as >>39447 said, therapy would be the solution that would make you healthier and happier mid and long term. and as >>39446 said, you will cease to exist. it is an alter with it's own memories and personality. You may even end up as a very unhappy spectator. you can also use hypnosis to gain confidence and become happier while still remaining you (P4u1 McK3nn4s records are good and cheap, and there are even some files on YT.

>>39450

Why do you assume I'm not happy or healthy?

I find it a bit absurd that in one breath people will defend a set of files that deliberately aims to replace you with a dumb (literally) bimbo and put your old personality into a box forever but the idea of doing so to create a more healthy personality that will eventually reduce the original one to a voice in the back of the head (if that) is just too much.

>>39452

*more healthy compared to B4mb1

somehow got snipped

>>39457

So, what you need to understand is that our minds and thus indirectly reality to human beings is much more mutable and subjective than what most people think.

Look at yourself 10 years ago and ask, are you the same person you were then? If you could talk to that you-from-the-past, would you even have anything in common aside from some interests and a name? Hypnosis is nothing more than a form of guided meditation, and the will to believe in something so much that it becomes reality. If you believe enough in there being a seperate female personality in your head, she will eventually appear. This isn't an occult thing, this is just your expectations leading to your percieved reality shifting.

Is it possible for a truly new personality/person to be created in your mind? If you have the belief and desire, yes. And if you get to the point where one day you wake up and find that you are just an observer in your own mind, or get swept away into nothingness this is purposeful. You truly wanted it, even if your conscious mind refuses to believe it.

tl;dr tulpas and alternate personalities are real, there's nothing mystical about them, and they are able to be brought into existence because our species ability to believe in something to the point that for us, our minds make it so.

>>39459

I think it should also be noted that I do have a bit of an eccentric view on our personalities, specifically that we're always changing and technically dying anyway, with out past selves beliving that they would exist forever until they experienced something or went to sleep or had surgery or got boinked on the head with a falling anime figuring or whatever and then they ceased to exist to be replaced by a different copy that thinks it's the same person.

I've also known people who have actually been altered through hypnosis and such to such a degree that they were essentially people who "wore" their old personality as a cloak when interacting with the outside world but were something shaped for a particular purpose inside. I've never met someone who went as far as a total personality takeover however.

>>39457

no, don't think its RPing. seems pretty real, and pretty f*cked up

where can I find those pony tulpa things? curious to read what anons are writing about it

>>39459

hypnosis is guided meditation. see your mind as an iceberg. the conscious mind is about 10% and the subconscious about 90%. with trance you can reach a big part of that 90% and change behaviors and habits.

the occult thing is the B4mb1 discord, not hypnosis itself. but some trance inducing rituals and brainwashing techniques are also used in real cults of course.

of course your personality changes with time. but it is somewhat constant.

>>39461

>pony tulpas

99.999% of the """horror stories""" about those are fake, just going to let you know now.

>>39460

Also one last thing, the people who go on about the seperate personality of B4mb1 or whatever their named in other cases being akin to mental suicide don't really understand how these things work. It's more along the lines of an enforced shift in personality, mirroring what happens naturally to us all over time but in an accelerated state. Obviously if you create a female personality and you're male, there will be some major differences but also many similarities that you (might) notice before you become her. Of course, you would only be able to create a female personality if in some way you were trans or wanted to be a woman so, eh, even then it's not as evil as people would make it out to be.

As for the old personality being "destroyed" or whatever nonsense people think, it would take a form less like that and more like a gradual merging from what I've seen and read.

>>39463

>and more like a gradual merging from what I've seen and read.

That has an even greater desire to just sneak up on you and be so subtle over time you don't even notice it before its too late, scary thought.

That is probably only if you listen to it religiously or something though, but the files have an addictive quality to them and the most pleasant sounding TTS voice ever that it might not be so difficult for some.

I swear if it wasn't for the Ivona voice I wouldn't be so eager to listen to every new file over and over again haphazardly. That voice is like a sirens voice when it comes to TTS.

>>39464

>to let a fetish turn into a lifestyle, to let one get swept away by something so strongly - to basically have one's life and personality significantly altered over a fucking fetish is not at all rational or reasonable nor desired

That's part of the reason why I personally dislike the files specifically for the links to IQ lowering and certain negative behaviors.

There rest of the changes are fine though. Becoming some ditzy valley girl who talks all cutesy but still has her brains is nice because it's not exactly a lifestyle change. Making you a drooling idiot who resorts to prostitution is, and it's a very bad one.

I do seriously think that anyone who listens to these files or others that are specifically designed to make a female personality has at least some degree of transgenderism though. People do not go for stuff that is this extreme if they don't want to be female on some deep hidden (or not so hidden) level.

>>39466

And to further elaborate a bit on that last point, if you are trans you'd be better served by listening to Kai's files from what I understand. They're basically designed with the same general theme of "you get your personality completely altered or taken over in a manner of speaking" but are actually designed in such a way that it feels positive and affirming to listen to them, and aside from a few explicitly listed files there's no references to IQ loss or truly destructive behavior.

>>39407

it's annoying but somehow reddit redirects it to the right place

but yeah i don't fucking understand the filter for this set of FREE files when we absolutely have the creator's blessing to discuss/link them here

DIdn't you notice a similarity between the author(s) of B4mb1 and 54m4nth4 B4nd|3r?

>>39469

they're both in the same niche, that's where the similarity ends

sammy b is hot garbage compared to B4mb1

sammy b gives next to nothing away for free

sammy b files are incredibly repetitive, and don't build on each other very strongly, with very few triggers in common between the files… the last one i listened to, a long time ago, had about literally 10 minutes of the same loop

>>39470

>they're both in the same niche, that's where the similarity ends

>sammy b is hot garbage compared to B4mb1

There is another difference. Apparently B4mb1 files work and SB's ones do not.

>>39420

maybe there should be a file which sends B4mb1 to the gym

if we're gonna fuck our brains up it we may as well get fit while doing it

>>39445

>but then it's too late because your tulpa has gained full sentiency

By which you mean the DID has taken hold. But from what I read about it theres nothing about acquiring DID through hypnosis and similar such methods, it's not acknowledged or even mentioned in any articles.

It could just be really elaborate self-delusion, you think you have a shared personality and so you behave and act like you do, and listening to the files convinces you that you do and that it has power over you but its just you fooling yourself.

Nothing about tulpas is verified by science it's /x/ tier stuff

>>39450

>I assume the pushy people, and the ones ridiculing and telling how it is RP only, definitely troll by intent to get unsuspecting anons into serious trouble or mental suicide.

As somebody who thinks it's RP only, I can tell you that it comes purely from skepticism. I simply see no evidence that a shitty TTS file on the internet can erase somebody's personality.

By that same token, I don't know why people bother with this sort of file when they could be using hypnosis for things that could actually work and improve their lives.

>>39459

>Look at yourself 10 years ago and ask, are you the same person you were then?

Yes.

>Is it possible for a truly new personality/person to be created in your mind?

No.

>>39470

Sammanthen works better because the triggers aren't completely blatant. After listening to one B4mb1 file you pretty much know exactly what she's trying to do and how. She doesn't mask them, and in that sense it's much easier to consciously reject them. Sammenthen uses techniques from NLP and Ericksonian hypnosis to mask the messages such that they bypass your guard.

It's give and take really, what the B4mb1 creator lacks in theory she has in terms of creativity and production value, whereas SB are more nuanced and better researched but they lack in terms of production and aren't as diverse.

The B4mb1 files are only effective if you manage to trance 100% of the time, whereas Samanthens's work either way which makes them more beginner friendly.

>>39472

>maybe there should be a file which sends B4mb1 to the gym

A fantasy file where B4mb1 goes to the gym to workout, and as she works out she keeps getting distracted by looking at all the hot muscular guys and can't help but think about their cocks. After B4mb1 is done with her workout, she is approached by one of the guys, and asks her if she would like to workout with him and the guys. As he speaks, B4mb1 is overcome by the heady masculine pheromone filled musk of the sweaty guy, which puts B4mb1 in a hypnotic haze and makes her sex throb. She can help but obey and comply with his request. The hunky man then lifts B4mb1 up, and carries her over the his shoulder. The feeling of the man's muscular arm wrapped around her thin little waste makes her feel obedient. She can't resist. She B4mb1 SLEEPs. B4mb1 is a carried into a room where the heady masculine aroma is even more overpowering. The man lays her down on a bench in the men's locker room. B4mb1 opens her eyes and sees a dozen men standing around her with their cocks out. B4mb1 sucks and fucks all the cocks in a bimbo gangbang until she CUM AND COLLAPSEs.

Suggestions would include: Smell of manly sweat as an arousal and obedience trigger, workout at the gym to maintain B4mb1's slim waste and firm bubble butt, confidence in propositioning hot guys at the gym.

>>39477

>By that same token, I don't know why people bother with this sort of file when they could be using hypnosis for things that could actually work and improve their lives.

Same reason why people would rather watch Porn over a documentary. Its the sexual element.

>>39467

>if you are trans you'd be better served by listening to Kai's files from what I understand.

Nevermind the fact that B4mb1 uses K31's files in the background. Nevermind that Demon Girl is B4mb1 Lite.

There are some great feminization files K31 does but to pretend like K31 is somehow better for ethics is a joke when you realize K31 is the reason B4mb1 exists, B4mb1 is based on Demon Girl.

>>39481

>B4mb1 is based on Demon Girl.

[Citation needed]

>>39482

The blog says that it uses elements of K31 and Gr4c13s work. I also recall hearing some MsJ in there as well.

>>39332

> Probably the creator is a programmer.

That's the skillset needed to get decent results out of current TTS.

>>39335

> There's always a loophole.

Oh you sweet summer child, go read your SICP again if you still think that programs can't be written without bugs.

The loophole for hypnosis is that the brain is *not* a deterministic computer. Far from it.

>>39436

> V1v3s dumbi1ng down series

AH HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Go read it, the whole thread, it's hilarious: https://www.warpmymind.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11544

>>39501

>Go read it, the whole thread, it's hilarious

It's scary…

>>39483

the induction is the same as Gogo bubble induction from C4tg1r|. almost 1:1 (if anybody is curious, listen without trance. the file also has lots of heavy side effects according to anons).

>>39501

>>39503

yes it's scary. you build your life for decades, just to be decimated to a moron within a week. would be interesting to know if anybody recovered from the dumbing down series.

Probably the B4mb1 files are not that extreme in the dumbing down process. But it could explain why "mature" B4mb1 anons do not post anywhere (besides the discord). They can't read and type properly.

>>39504

The dumbing down seems stupid to me. Not because it tries to simplify your thoughts, but because I don't get how a brain would practically reduce its capabilities.

Of course there could be suggestions about not being able to keep a certain thought going for to long, to increase number of mistakes, be worse at mathematics and so on, and those might certainly work, but how would this result in a permanent reduction of IQ?

On a side note: The hypnotic combination of stupidity with happiness actually makes a lot of sense, since there are indications that people with a lesser IQ are easier to to mentally satisfy and therefore more often happy than highly intelligent people which can reach a significantly increased complexity of happiness but are less likely to do so because they are aware of more remote circumstances (ie politics) that might interfere with their happiness.

This is also why common drugs including alcohol, which reduce mental capabilities and narrow down the perception of ones surroundings, are a easy way to (temporary, simplified) happiness and are used to "escape" problematic circumstances.

>>39515

Seems like I am contradicting myself there.

I meant, if it was possible (which seems unlikely to me) to reach a IQ reduction similar to how some drugs affect the brain, it would make a lot of sense to combine such suggestion with one of happiness.

>>39516

I think that's just implied anyway with Bimbos in general. That the stupider you are the happier you are. I also think its the loss of control as well that's a factor.

>>39480

too overtly homosexual for my tastes

i like the detachment of the files from masculinity, it's all about the cock… i know one could argue that cock = masculine but there are those of us who find men a turn-off but cock a turn-on

>>39523

>i know one could argue that cock = masculine

I don't see how anyone could argue any other position unless you're so deep into the rabbit hole of postmodernism that words don't have meanings anymore.

>>39523

it's not gay if you're the girl though

>>39525

two things can be heavily associated without being the exact same

>>39503

> It's scary…

It's Exactly What It Says On The Tin and people still go for it. It's not like the B4mb1 series. Darwin Awards ahoy!

< I cannot brain today. I have the dumb.

>>39504

> if anybody recovered from the dumbing down series

Read … the … thread. The first few pages have the short answer to that question. There's more in the later pages.

Oblivion is amazing, but I just hate the drinking memory implant. f u

>>39540

what's the drinking memory implant in oblivion?

>>39552

Just a short line about a blur of partying, drinking and fucking. Becoming a party bimbo.

https://mega.nz/#!WjgXUAjK!28mDYuhCTDKe6SXPaLUgEL9w4oHLGdOA-8pr7c2iNL4

>>39558

What?

>>39558

>>39561

Yeah, you're going to need to elaborate a bit on what that is.

>>39561

>>39562

Not the anon who posted that. but these are just scripts for 5 of the B4mb1 files.

>>39563

why even upload something like that to mega then instead of pastebin

>>39558

thx 4 posting

>>39526

holy shit, source on that?

>>39552

>>39553

then load up audacity and cut that little bit out

alcohol is haram, you are right to do so

>>39590

This, by Allah we will cleanse the bimbo hypnosis transformation and takeover file until it is clear of the infidels poison and then it will be in accordance with the will of the prophet (pbuh).

>>39436

The B4mb1 thread: https://www.warpmymind.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=14697

https://mega.nz/#!XCYnkD4B!HORr-5vOrtGKe4s9_TvBP0UlOvpFbBfRtPLy8LVB8c4

>>39621

>I sow chaos.zip

I ain't downloading that shit whatever it is

>>39501

jesus, they dumb themselves and suddenly start using nigger language. makes you think

>>39624

Well what it made me think is "This can't be real, they must be pretending, right?"

I don't know, the dumbed down posts seemed overdone to me, but that's just an impression.

>>39626

You can always give the files a go and report here :^)

>>39628

While I sincerely doubt they'd work, I am not certain nor am I enough of an expert in psychology and hypnosis to base my doubts on anything than previous experiences with hypno files. And anecdotes are not plural of data…

So in accordance to my risk averse nature I'll pass. Having my mental capacity affected on the off-chance the files do work is too big of a drawback for a potential pay-off of acting smug on the boards…

>>39629

As your brain won't start physical self-destruction based on a thought, the underlying structure should remain within it's current capabilities throughout.

What is likely to happen with files that suggest permanent stupidity (probably not B4mb1), is that your mind will refuse to solve complex problems for some time (while the posthypnotic suggestions last). After that has lasted long enough, you won't be used to those thought processes any more and automatic ("instinctive") reaction and solution will not happen as usual, making it a lot more tedious and exhaustive to resolve those situations until you have rebuilt your tolerance and non hypnotic conditioning.

Not an expert either, but very interested in possibilities of hypnosis in general and behavior automation.

>>39626

why should people fake these reviews? in the dumbing down thread are almost 1.000 posts. not curious about finding out if they work for me. they just show how effective hypnosis can be if you are looking for self destruction.

B4mb1 S133p has dumbing down suggestions scattered through every file, one more reason to skip the files. forgetting feels so good, IQ reduced to 65, can barely read, doesn't understand numbers, no train of thought … and B4mb1 is also active in your daily life when not in trance (see scripts).

>>39633

probably the brain reverts to (somewhat) normal after you stop listening for a while. depends on how much you messed up your thought processes with brainwash, triggers and suggestions of course. the brain should realize at some point that some thought processes are not "useful" anymore.

people who were involved in cults need years or decades to recover, if they recover at all. the mental damage by daily brainwash and hypno porn sessions could be similar.

>>39644

>and B4mb1 is also active in your daily life when not in trance (see scripts).

Please don't take suggestions out of context. These activities are mostly related to forcing you to wear the uniform and listen more often. Some parts can be interpreted differently as has been discussed here multiple times but the dumbing down is practically exclusive to B4mb1 persona.

The cult thing is not really about keeping people stupid. Some more "successful" cults actively exploit their members intelligence by forcing them to work a lot in a high paying job and handing over their earnings.

One of the most effective ways to control people is to build a high level of emotional dependence. There are also aspects of group building

(against the evil outside world (propaganda)), a strong hierarchy (pyramid scheme) and so on. It of course helps if people are gullible/stupid but those are likely of lesser value.

>>39647

"dumbing down is practically exclusive to B4mb1 persona" yeah which is instructed to become the dominant persona by any means necessary. Stop trying to minimize the risks associated with listening to deranged shit like this.

>>39650

I am listening to this specific

>deranged shit

(currently 1,2,3,4,10 of the original series, wherein 4 is the IQ reduction track) and while I am not easily suggestible, I have absolutely no perceptible dumbing down effect in real life.

This may be linked to the interpretation, that B4mb1 is only active while in uniform and other suggestions are meant to prolong effect of trance and/or build an addiction, but that are just my two cents.

>>39504

I'm one of the posters there from yeaaaaars ago, and I can say you do recover overtime once you stop, but I always feel like my IQ is a bit lower than the starting point, and from some posts there, it seems like I wasn't the only one to feel that.

>>39659

Do feel like this retained loss is a lingering posthypnotic suggestion or an actual loss of mental ability?

Do you think that a series that encouraged you to be more intelligent and flourish by solving complex problems or alternatively made you forget that you were ever dumbed down could enable a full recovery?

>>39592

mash'allah brother

Could someone pastebin those scripts? I am not going to download random stuff off the net.

>>39666

https://pastebin.com/5B5spchc

https://pastebin.com/xFfD021U

https://pastebin.com/gHchd8Mf

https://pastebin.com/mrTDaJGx

https://pastebin.com/CVQkaw6r

https://pastebin.com/4HdbBeMq

https://pastebin.com/ShebBPFT

The 05 file in the first mega link has broken formatting. The respective pastbin is a copy from the second mega link.

>>39662

Its hard to tell the difference really, maybe a mix of both? The file "teaches" you how to be dumber so maybe your brain just kinda relaxes and lets it become the new norm? I dunno really Im not an expert on these things.

That could be possible if the person is as into it as he is for the taboo pleasure of files like the dumbing down series.

>>39668

tfw no sissy bf to force to listen to dumbing down files and train to worship cock in his dull fuzzy mind as god.

>>39668

>taboo pleasure

Not him but thats what I got into ero hypno, sissy hypno and ultimately B4mb1 files for but holy fuck I'm thinking I might just stop here for now, I'm not after permanent changes even if slight or subtle.

>>39654

I've had some of the B4mb1 dumbing down suggestions work outside of trance & uniform.

Loss of awareness, typing difficulties, forgetting things things at work. Other anons report about their work performance being abysmal, so I'm not the only one. I'm also rather resistant to suggestions btw. Don't take the files too lightly.

Not going to listen to B4mb1 or similar shit anymore for sure.

There is a good thing about the efficiency of the B4mb1 files.

I was listening for years to the hypnowhale IV but didn't know her hypnosis worked. It worked very well in sabotaging my life.

B4mb1 made me realize it does work and I have to get away from this stuff. Also how harmful it is to the psyche.

Changed to P4u1 Mck3nn4 and self improvement files. No more fapping hypno for me anymore. It was a fun trip though.

>>39682

You know what also would your life better? If you would stop worrying so much about you fucking fetish.

>>39682

Yeah. Probably many started with IV.

A lot of her older stuff is only available on share. And she was encouraging suicide on Twitter. Maybe she got into legal trouble?

I do remember reports of anons feeling sick if they don't donate to her. Also she had suggestions like "Rob a liquor store, send me the money, forget you did it". She definitely has some mental issues and is ruthless in destroying others people's lives.

>>39683

There is a difference if you control the fetish or if it controls and destroys your life.

>>39684

I've met people irl who've even known about IV stuff (I played dumb of course). There's apparently a tremendous number of normal adult males that have listened to the first Jackpot file.

>>39687

Yeah, it is one of the "entry" files to establish trust. HFO and relaxation.

Does anybody realize that after B4mb1 is installed properly, she could be commanded to install another alter? The other alter could have any traits the creator wishes, and also obey commands that have nothing in common with B4mb1 and the old self?

>>39684

Well that's interesting. I have no idea about US law, but where I live a case potentially could be made that this is criminal incitment and should be prosecuted.

I guess it'd be interesting to see a court try and judge wheather instructions in a hypno file fall under standards of incitment.

>>39690

Yeah, may be the reason why she took it offline.

>>39623

>>39621

>>39558

can someone upload these to pastebin?

https://mega.nz/#!GS5HFIaQ!noXoIG66IBeipMFZQ309KLo-K9VMCdD4Vm1SZvQzBa8

>>39682

>My life would have been better off if I never discovered erotic hypnosis desu.

You could've ended up with a way way worse vice than this anon. The hypno is probably the least destructive vice you could have sure, but its a vice none the less. If you can, remove vice entirely from your life.

>>39692

Are you blind or just to lazy to read the thread?

>>39667

>>39558

>>39621

>>39695

I have added the last three scripts of the most recent mega to pastbin. The previous ones can be found in >>39667

https://pastebin.com/Y3FvZr9F

https://pastebin.com/mndDr8FL

https://pastebin.com/YmwqJf1E

>>39688

Still not prelistening?

It is the most accurate way to determine if there are suggestions that you understand in a bothersome way.

Also to everyone reading the scripts, please don't accidentally take those parts you want to criticize out of context. If you are not sure if the following or previous lines are extending or limiting the suggestions of the current line (only B4mb1 is addressed, only applicable while in uniform, B4mb1 influence may extend to you irl) please verify by listening yourself without a trance.

While you can certainly understand things differently there are to many discussions here that are based on improper listening or just secondary information (discord/scripts).

Thank you.

>>39696

The vice of porn addiction has gripped me for over 5 years, the hypno is just an aspect of it but I will say it is a major contributor, and a major reason why I haven't been able to fully rid myself of it yet. Not to mention I developed a kind of meta fetish when I became aware or my porn addiction and the effect its had on me over the years where I fetishized the addiction and never being able to overcome it, and becoming a "slave to porn" and looks like I'm not the only one, several videos and tumblrs and images increasingly have that theme I noticed.

Regardless its all under the same umbrella of porn addiction but you're right that it could have been worse I'm glad I have no interest in drugs, alcohol, gambling or any other vice like that because my level of self control these past few years is abysmal.

>>39702

Maybe you also watched/listened to porn addiction hypno?

>>39706

No, not beyond the videos with that specific theme, which aren't at all the same thing. Also hypnosis has never directly affected me, I rarely trance, and any mindfog or whatever wears off after a couple minutes when I stop listening, like I said hypno is not the cause but a contributor to the overall addiction.

I've never done hypno before but I have some experience with binaural beats in the past so it was easy for me to adjust

I've been doing the first set of 10 for three days in the mornings an after work and the effects only last around 20-30 minutes and I can only assume more long lasting effects are down the track. But I'm sort of addicted to them, maybe it's just the excitement but sometimes I think about relistening to the whole set all over again, is that a normal side effect of this? Ive actually started looking at panties and stockings which even though I was initially into a little cross dressing I didn't expect to have this desire to do so after such a short amount of time. I don't exactly intend to go out and actually do anything but I am definitely going to get a few things to try on for the fun of it

But how far is too far, I was a little skeptical at first but this is a step beyond binaural beats, where with binaural beats I could shake off some of the effects in an afternoon I have a concern that these hypno files might actually cause some longer term effects that may have consequences

Should I be more careful? Im interested in trying the maid and oblivion one next since apparently they're the most dangerous and I want to see how far this rabbit hole goes

>>39711

Dude, you've already developed addiction. Also you seem affected outside of trance.

Oblivion is about personality erasure, sounds as a very bad idea at your stage.

If you are crazy enough to continue keep posting ….

>>39711

The effect of the posthypnotic suggestions is strongest directly after listening. So it is very plausible that your desire to listen again, is a consequence of the addiction suggestion affecting your mind.

If you want to go further do so but be sure that you know what is coming and how it's influence on you may be. You shouldn't listen, if you feel permanently affected in an undesirable way by listening, have mental problems or disorders.

The safest way to go on is probably to stay with the original series for some time to see if it's effects are still increasing, then just add whatever uniform you want to the mix and see if it changes anything and only then go on.

I however would combine the first two steps.

>>39681

>>39682

>depraved self destructive content

I always have to roll my eyes when someone pulls this shit out as a reason to quit. Yeah, your latent homosexual/trans tendancies being brought out by having you do the truly horrible, terrible things of wanting to suck cocks or dress in cute skirts and stockings is truly nightmarish.

You people need to grow up and realize that hypnosis can't make you do anything you don't want. So surprise! You weren't being magically corrupted into wanting to suck cocks and not listening to hypnosis won't make this go away, you always were a gay boi inside.

>>39715

anons have reported that the files became linked to their everyday clothing, because they didn't use an uniform. So they are safer to listen to with uniform.

I listened to the files, and I can tell, they affect you heavily even outside of trance. With such heavy listening (twice daily the full set) you can't think clearly for sure. You are B4mb1 the whole time if you listen twice a day. There is no awakener for the "old self" in the series.

>>39717

well, you can be hypnotized against your will. especially if you are suggestible and also some suggestions make sense after you listened and accepted them. It's like the "P3n1s 3n14rg3m3nt" files that make you addicted to dicks. With some trickery and by washing down your defenses, lots of things are possible.

B4mb1 S133p does't start with oblivion. But when anons reach oblivion, their minds have been modified enough to accept those suggestions like they are the best thing since sliced bread.

>>39718

Mostly agree with you. Like some long forgotten youtuber used to say: "Safety is number one priority!"

Apart from that >There is no awakener for the "old self" in the series.

is not strictly true as there is the suggestion in the uniform track I believe, where you can remove the uniform including B4mb1 if you suck on an object representative of a cock. It is however suggested that this is incredibly difficult and pretty much all B4mb1 tracks include suggestions to increase the power of B4mb1 to resist the old self and prolong effects of trance.

>>39717

>You people need to grow up and realize that hypnosis can't make you do anything you don't want.

This is not true I think. I believe its possible to bring out certain things in people by linking something with sex, in a very tricky and methodical way, and thats exactly what most of the sexual erotic hypno files do.

Yeah, I agree probably hypnosis wont make you do very extreme things, but when extreme sexual addiction is linked to hypno, its possible to create a moer fucng evil program which can corrupt the mind from its depths.

>>39718

>>39720

There might not be a backdoor in the B4mb1 files themselves designed to undo the conditioning if you don't like it, but there's nothing stopping folks from using a different hypnotist to help clear out those suggestions.

Though I don't know why you wouldn't be using a benevolent hypnotist in the first place, rather than one that's trying to harm you.

>>39723

N1mj4s d33p R353t works fine, but several listens are necessary. Also the suggestions and triggers wear down with time if you do not listen.

>>39717

>So surprise! You weren't being magically corrupted into wanting to suck cocks and not listening to hypnosis won't make this go away, you always were a gay boi inside.

Psychoanalysis was a mistake.

>>39700

>Still not prelistening?

Implying playing Russian Roulette with your psyche isn't the ultimate act of submissive masochistic masturbation for low self-esteem internet weenies with mind control fetishes

>>39730

>Psychoanalysis was a mistake.

Dat wanting to bang your mom and kill your dad tho.

>>39735

>Dat wanting to bang your mom and kill your dad tho.

.. this is the end …

>>39624

> they dumb themselves and suddenly start using nigger language

That's what hypnosis does. They're not actually any dumber, but they've conditioned themselves to act like retards, or, more precisely how they think retards act.

>>39626

> dumbed down posts seemed overdone to me

Same thing. Hypnosis can't actually make you into a retard (or a genius, but that scam's sure out there) but it can make you act the way you think such a person acts.

>>39629

I've seen that post before.

>>39633 (dubs!)

> behavior automation

Yes, an autopilot could be very useful sometimes. Doing it right is the interesting part. "Autopilot" might not even be the best term.

>>39644 (more dubs!)

> depends on how much you messed up your thought processes with brainwash, triggers and suggestions

Recovery also requires recognizing that you need to recover, which hypnotic suggestions could interfere with. There are also ways to make self-reinforcing triggers and conditioning. B4mb1 tries, missing a few edges, but B4mb1 certainly tries.

>>39667

Thanks. Got the other scripts or have those not been done yet?

>>39678

> … ultimately B4mb1 … I'm not after permanent changes …

I've only read parts of the scripts so far, but B4mb1 definitely tries to sneak in permanent changes. Some have reported success with V1v3's Deep Clean http://www.V1v3hypnosis.de/?p=1980 to get rid of them. Remember: B4mb1 is not a sentient personality. B4mb1 is an animated blow-up doll. Kill B4mb1 with fire.

>>39679

> also rather resistant to suggestions

As is the B4mb1 author, apparently, since more files are still being released.

>>39681

> hypnowhale

AH HAHAHAHAHAHA

IV is a fatass, isn't she?

> didn't know her hypnosis worked

She had better amnesia triggers, apparently.

> how harmful it is to the psyche

Deep Clean. Do it. Now. Link above ^^

>>39740

>they've conditioned themselves to act like retards, or, more precisely how they think retards act.

Except this is happening on a societal level as well with all the garbage media we consume. When you act like a retard long enough, you will eventually forget you are acting and thinking how to be retarded to the point where it becomes natural. Retarded has become a state of being.

^^ Obviously the link to Deep Clean needs to be un-1337ed to work…

>>39684

> anons feeling sick if they don't donate to her

That's one unethical way to get money.

> suggestions like "Rob a liquor store, send me the money, forget you did it"

AH HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Actually that direct? That has about zero chance to actually work and says a lot about her actual knowledge level and even more about her morals, or perhaps lack thereof on both counts.

>>39688 (dubs!)

> Does anybody realize that after B4mb1 is installed properly, she could be commanded to install another alter?

Commanded, yes. Able to actually do so while in a pink haze of bimbo bliss bullshit? Probably not. The "wipers" would stop her. Completely unable to resist further conditioning, especially if her triggers are used? Oh yes. Commanded to bring her body back over and over for more and more conditioning to install another alter? Much warmer.

I've mentioned this before, but that thread's gone now.

>>39690

> wheather instructions in a hypno file fall under standards of incitment

The simple question: did the accused actually rob a liquor store, send the money to the hypnowhale, and now claims no memory of the events? If so, I would expect that to be more than incitment, that likely qualifies as organized criminal activity. The hypnowhale did order the commission of a crime. Whether the patsy would still go to jail would be interesting. Probably yes, and would deserve it.

>>39698

Thanks. A quick reading over B4mb1 Takeover suggests possible similarities to the infamous Curse Female Takeover file. Was a script of that file ever released? If so, /r/ing upload to pastebin. I would like to compare the scripts.

>>39711 (more dubs!)

> sort of addicted to them … is that a normal side-effect of this?

It's not a side-effect. The files suggest exactly that addiction.

>>39717

> hypnosis can't make you do anything you don't want

No, it can't, but it can change what you want.

>>39718

Yes.

>>39741

> all the garbage media we consume

Kill Your TV. Read a book, or the equivalent online. Don't carry an idiotphone. Get a simple Nokia brick phone. No apps. Apps are fucking cancer garbage media, and designed for maximum addiction, too.

I should probably thank the author. almost feel like just reading those scripts cured my addiction to hypno. Fuck that shit…

>>39753

Haha, i know what you mean. Same here.

>>39753

It's just given me a boner, due to the content and how taboo and lewd it is, but at the same time making me remember all the times I already listened to these files again and again the past few months, and there's nothing new from them to be gained except more arousal and listening to more hour long session just for that, again and again just feels so pointless. Especially because of the concerns over how effective these files can really be, and worrying about being unable to stop listening to them, yet at the same time not desiring most of their effects and long-term suggestions and changes while at the same time feeling aroused about that very same thing.

I think the previous thread mentioned the fear > arousal link, it's very strong with these files for me, even if actual long-term lasting change as implied in the files isn't possible, the urge to listen anyways is strong, but I'm working through that I think. If I just keep reminding myself of how many times I've already listened to these files and how pointless it is to listen again when you know what to expect already.

>>39760

I would recommend setting up a uniform of some sort, even if it's just an armband or something, since it's something a lot of the files are strongly tied to and it's something that is somewhat used to compartmentalise B4mb1.

>>39764

Depends, not him but I listened to these files in my boxers because anything else is not possible and I don't feel any link between them and the suggestion in the files technically not a uniform either but whatever.

>>39764

I plan too but unfortunately I can't see myself actually doing it because I'm quite fit, I'd look goofy in something thats not mens wear since I am built like a truck. I'll probably just end up buying panties or something to see if I can garner the full effect of the hypno while not feeling totally self conscious

>>39760

How do you feel when I say DROP FOR COCK ?

>>39744

This, but unironically.

>>39777

checked

I listened to Mistress 4M3thy57's Slip into deep surrender the other today and it was the exact same induction that's in bubble induction. Does anyone know who ripped of of who? Or did they both use someone else's script?

>>39785

Apparently its a popular file from WMM by Lutz

>>39769

If it was me, I would feel really turned off by someone trying to do something like that. If there is something that really makes me hate something is trying to force me to do anything.

>>39769

Everything kinda gets foggy for a second and my mouth opens, sometimes if it’s unexpected, I salivate

There are a numer of parts of "B4mb1" based on other hypnotists. You've mentioned the Bubble Induction, but the bits about forgetting stuff are based on M1ynd M1str3ss's "CD i6 Acc3ptanc3"

>>39814

in the first set of tracks the author seems to be finding their feet and there's a fair bit of adapted material. Everything after that seems original (and better, honestly)

>>39820

Second set of files were radically better. Bubble induction was worth copying however, I remember the old Lutz file worked on me too.

>>39777 (checked!)

I wasn't being ironic. I meant everything I said in >>39744.

If I were to try and listen to some of these files, is there a recommended list of which ones to have in a playlist? Or at least some descriptions so I know which files I would want to listen to depending on each ones goal?

>>39866

The blogspot describes every file, and I think there may have been recommended listening orders on it.

>>39866

the question is, what do YOU want from listening to these files?

start with 1-2-3-10, listen to these for about 1-2 weeks or more depending how well you take the to the triggers. After that use rapid induction, and blank mindless doll followed by any training files you want always ending with 10.

Avoid BFO until you have at least 1 month or so of training. After this 1 month use this playlist if you really want to be B4mb1:

1.Rapid induction

2.blank mindless doll

3.B4mb1 takeover

4.vain horny happy

5.Bimbo fuckpuppet oblivion

6.bimbo drift

B4mb1 will then be forever.

Good luck, take care.

What order should I listen to if I want to get the effects from Fake Horny Fuckpuppet?

>>39897

Blank Mindless Doll

B4mb1 Body Lock

Cock Dumb Hole

Fake Horny Fuckpuppet

Restrained and Milked

Bimbo Drift

>>39888

it only describes it up to a point, you're better off looking at the script files just incase you want to know what is REALLY in the files.

>>39558

>>39621

>>39695

>>39949

>>39950

Where's this at?

>>39954

B4mb1 Cult

>>39949

No joke, shit like that is what made me cold turkey sissy shit. Instead of B4mb1 selfies it was a random 50-60 year old sissy commenting on a porn video with his ugly non passing face as an avatar. I thought "you don't want to become that" and have stopped ever since,

>>39969

Are you 50-60 years old?

Odds are you're in your 20s. No reason to stop really.

Ya know I consistently listened to tracks 1,2,3,10 for about a week. At first I was into it. Then slowly I stopped being able to trance. I was getting headaches and depression. On one hand I'm a bit jealous that some people got sucked into it and experienced the full effects. On the other hand I don't think I can get to that point. My mind literally rejects it.

>>39949

heh I know that feeling.

>>39984

>Ya know I consistently listened to tracks 1,2,3,10 for about a week. At first I was into it. Then slowly I stopped being able to trance. I was getting headaches and depression.

This has started happening to me as well now, Fuckdoll Oblivion did that to me, it made me wake the fuck up and realize what the fuck am I doing. I can't even get past the induction now.

Also about the Tulpa if you cold turkey stay away from the files she eventually goes away, I think she's a result of the files working and so if the files no longer work the Tulpa fucks off.

Eh well that was a great fetish I once had. Probably time to move on.

>>39969

When you've seen those types IRL you know definately that this is not the life for you. The fantasy is much more attractive than the reality. The reality sucks.

Anyone tried this file with dxm?

I remeber this old thread (https://8ch.net/hypno/res/28400.html) where a guy was taking that and doing a bunch of hypnos, and it seemed pretty interesting and intense.

I have been considering doing that for a while now, and i was wondering if anyone had experience mixing substances along with the new oblivion and fuckpuppet files.

Also, i would appreciate any description of long term effects as well of mixing drugs and B4mb1 as it sounds so hot and scary at the same time

went cold turkey on sissy hypno shit since B4mb1 S133p. banged several chicks and improved life quality astronomically since then. definitely the right decision.

>>40022

yet you're still here

>>40022

Sounds like someone might be a little deeper than they think…

B4mb1 SLEEP

This file I've found is surprisingly similar to the standard B4mb1 fare.

>>39769

Nothing out of the ordinary, it seems even though I'm in week 3 now the only thing I react to is b4mb1 s133p.

I've been keeping something similar to a diary recording thoughts and information that I've picked up that's worth remembering. About 20% I've forgotten and its almost a surreal feeling looking through the diary and not even remembering that I wrote some of this stuff, mostly trigger words and feelings seem to have the amnesic effect. Its a little cool but right now it feels like progress is slow, I've been looking for ways to increase the effect but everything seems to have little no effect, I've seen people talk about tulpas and what not but even though I am nearly a month in no such thing has even remotely happened. But then again I've always had my doubts about such a thing even happening, right now it seems like the only symptoms I've picked up is a lower sense of body positivity, I'm not liking how my body looks even though I'm quite fit, I don't like my more athletic body parts such as my stomach and arms and I've even looked at trying to give myself a more curvy physique. Its interesting that I would have never actually thought I wanted a more curvy body before doing this, even though its hard for me to imagine I just desire such a thing, whether I try to achieve such a thing is for another time. Another symptom is this sort of delusion I get post listening for about an hour, I have thoughts that even though I know they're bad and often make me feel ill but it seems like they're really good ideas at the time, even now thinking about them makes me feel gross but when its time to listen they seem like the greatest ideas I've ever had.

In summary it seems like some effects have taken place but theyre slowly becoming more negative which really brings into question whether I continue or not. Its fun to post progress but I feel like I'm blogposting which I'm not sure if people like it here or not, I might post progress if I continue as long as people are interested atleast

>>40051

>I might post progress if I continue as long as people are interested at least

Yes, please!

>>40051

That's way more interesting than the usual "it is bad for you and therefore nobody should listen" fear mongering discussion going on here.

In fact you help to educate people about a possible scenario that might happen to them by contributing actual first-hand experience with the files.

If that is not what this thread is for, I don't know what is.

>>40051

>right now it seems like the only symptoms I've picked up is a lower sense of body positivity, I'm not liking how my body looks even though I'm quite fit, I don't like my more athletic body parts such as my stomach and arms and I've even looked at trying to give myself a more curvy physique.

This is about the only good side effect I had from the files, that it made me lose a lot of weight because B4mb1's clothes didn't fit right. Every other aspect of B4mb1 though has been bad for me.

The Tulpa only really came about as a result of too much listening to the B4mb1 Takeover tracks. I think that is very much the key to the Tulpa. If you don't listen with Takeover then no such Tulpa should occur.

Who ever put the B4mb1 cult behind a verification lock is a kike.

<in b4 doxxing scam and the B4mb1s paint the walls

>>40069

The server?

>>40070

the discord requires verification now. Fucking bullshit.

>>40071

why would you want to join it lel it's fucking terrible.

>>40072

it had hypnosis files on there, lots of files. Its annoying that its now locked. Only reason I went there.

>>40073

I could enter without a problem like before, just use a name and I could get in. But for some reason the hypno files channel got removed so I'm not going in there again.

>>40075

it's still there, it was temporarily disabled since the admin was doing a restructuring

>>40081

phew ok. I might've over reacted kek.

point still stands on the doxxing though, don't post any photos there.

>>39957

any chance u could beg dabc on my behalf to let me back in? I made a mistake, but I would really like a second chance, I haven't been able to be consistent without the community.

I can be found on the CORE discord - https://discord.gg/NhgGtt Hostform<chululademen>#9468

Thank you kindly , unfortunate non-anon

>>40108

dabc is no longer with the cult.

I imagine being stuck as B4mb1 would be like a nightmarish, never-ending Shaye St. John episode

>>40115

God damn that's horrifying as fuck.

Does anyone know where the paths with giggles come from?

The only thing I found was the giggle from the 09 B4mb1 Cockslut file that I discovered in the gigglegasm file.

I would like to play the same tracks with giggles from other files when I'm doing something else during the day. In a word - hear giggles all the time

Maybe the creator would free only giggle tracks as a training path?

Possibly someone can show the source of these giggles.

If my grammar sounds strange, I apologize - English is not my native language.

https://www.emlalock.com/#/f/48yqh

>>40174

I am not clicking on that.

>>40206

thanks for informing everyone

>>40402

Yeah, you're knee deep into a fantasy. You will act and react in certain ways you've been suggested to be like with enough affirmation if you want to accept it. Building neuropathways and reactions associating feelings with those every time you do said suggestion while in trance.

The minute you start not wanting it and believing it has no effect over you, the moment all its power is rendered useless. It's as powerful as you make it. Start doing something else when 'triggered' will make it less powerful. Time will also erode it.

It won't make any physical changes either.

But people and B4mb1 take it to another level. Thinking it totally transforms them into a different personality and being. But in reality just horny men acting out fantasies.

>>40406

>Part of it was the B4mb1 cult discord thing and the talk of tulpas but even that is just playing pretend I bet because theres no scientific or psychological evidence for something like a tulpa last I checked.

Actually there is, DID and Hypnosis have gone hand in hand and there's a few journals online you can google for that actually find a link between DID and Hypnosis as a potential cure. One would assume that its then possible to use Hypnosis to do the reversal of that, though I mean obviously you can't prove that and anyone that even tried to scientifically would go to jail of neglegence. Remember though that DID is caused by trauma, all the B4mb1 files would need to do is trigger that trauma and bam you have yourself DID which is kinda like a Tulpa. You end up with a split personality.

Similarly the B4mb1s have said that its possible to have a major relapse if you try to avoid the files. I've only had a minor relapse recently where I just did the induction and no further. But I feel like I can probably get over this shit and just go back to vanilla cding.

>>40402

The B4mb1s want to trick you into thinking the files are safe. I want to make a point of holding the fuck off until one of them finally paints the walls. Once it happens then you'll have your answer.

>>40405

Agreed. I been listening to hypno for years and years. Hypno never made me do anything I didnt want to. Bam1bi doesn't do much for me and reading everyone rather questionable fearmongering is silly. Still say to this day the files do nothing imo

still /r/ing pastebins of the scripts for the later files

>>40408

And how would the B4mb1 files trigger that trauma? What type of trauma are you refferring to?

>major relapse if you try to avoid

Hmm, I havent listened to any of the files for a month and barely remember them, and its not like I get deep into trance when listening to them anyways to let the files take full effect. Only now am I interested again a little because of going back to this fetish after a near month long break, which was majorly nofap/noporn related.

>>40408

>comment gives video explaining science/modern understanding behind hypnosis

>they want to trick you

???

>>40408

>The B4mb1s want to trick you

If it actually worked, then they wouldn't be smart enough to trick anyone into anything. If it didn't work, then there's no point 'tricking' someone into something that doesn't work

>>40427

This is part of a larger narrative that has been occurring in these threads to try to make uneducated reader believe that these file are more than they are as a means to increase the effectiveness or incite more subscibers

>>40445

that doesn't really make sense. All the files are freely available so people are only going to patreon it if they actually like it

it's pretty simple. If you don't think it'll work or are just listening because people rave about it and aren't really into the subject matter it definitely won't do much. If you're onboard and listen with the right mindset it's stronger than anything else but still only going to work as far as you're comfortable. If you really think it's going to take effect permanently, idk maybe if you're like in the top 1% of suggestability but probably not

I've said it before and I'll say it again, I think most of the people that B4mb1 files have a bigger extreme impact on have transgender tendancies and legitimately want to be women, but have shoved those feelings into a box where this is the only way they can express them.

This actually goes for most forced feminization hypnosis in general. Most of the people I know who are into it completely fail the "If there was a button in front of you that could instantly, irreversably turn you into a biological woman" test so that just gives further fuel to my belief in this.

It's a shame that the B4mb1's are using B4mb1 files to express this though rather than K31's. Almost identical themes of feminization and even personality erasement, but with a much more positive tone and feeling to them and minus suggestions on B4mb1 becoming a trashy webcam whore and stuff.

>>40468

Pretty much hit the mark here, coming from my experience with B4mb1 since June of 2017. The files helped me reach some milestones with how I viewed myself and how I’d like to see myself, and was a major contributor towards helping me express my identity in more heathy and publicly acceptable ways. But from the start it was always about managing to express a heavy concept like transsexuality in a super taboo and erotic way.

>>40482

Yep.

Like, seriously. For most of the people in this thread you need to ask yourself, if you could magically have the opportunty to live as a flawless woman or chick with a dick who passes perfectly for the rest of your life, would you take it?

If you said 'Yes' or some variation of it, you need to do some soul searching and introspection. Put bluntly, men would say no to that question. Nobody particularly likes being on this road but at the very least coming to terms with yourself is better than creating a time bomb that will explode with worse force in your 30's or 40's.

>>40459

>The B4mb1s in that discord are really faggy

He says while admitting he's into sissy shit and probably has sucked cocks before.

Are you one of those truly exceptional "Haha guys I totally want to get fucked in the ass and be made into a slave for cock and be a girl but I'm straight totally" types I see regularly around here?

>>40505

Did I hurt someones feelings? Sorry but that discord is full of annoying delusional faggots who participate in pure faggy erp like behaviour and don't realise how fucking stupid they are being. Also they are massive bullshitters who will regularly worship some hypno artist as some kind of amazing shemale goddess and eagerly try to convince unsuspecting people who are not even into the fetish to join their stupid gay cult.

Never once said I was straight though.

Sorry I don't like your discord group and the people who participate in it.

>>40506

I don't actually participate in discord cancer.

That doesn't stop you from sounding like a massive faggot though.

>>40505

>Are you one of those truly exceptional "Haha guys I totally want to get fucked in the ass and be made into a slave for cock and be a girl but I'm straight totally" types I see regularly around here?

You know… There are gays, faggots and men who like cocks. Three different groups.

>>40512

>three different groups

I don't even have a suitable incredulous anime reaction image so I won't bother.

Keep telling yourself that liking veiny dicks is perfectly heterosexual.

>>40513

>Keep telling yourself that liking veiny dicks is perfectly heterosexual.

I never said it's 'perfectly heterosexual'. Howevr, there are men who are obsessed with cocks, but hate the meat they are connected to :D

>>40505

>He says while admitting he's into sissy shit and probably has sucked cocks before.

<He says while posting on a board that is mostly sissy shit

Hi just want to ask, is it possible to listen to these files and omit number 4 and 8?

>>40576

As written in the the official blog only 1 to 3 and 10 are sort of necessary if you are listening to the original series.

Please look at the blog yourself for further details. There is a better explanation there.

We can't post the link here because the board censors it partially with 1337 to avoid search bot indexing but thereby also breaks the link.

>>40576

as the blog faq says, you are supposed to start with 1 2 3 10, then you add anything you want.

Once you feel affected by the content of the first playlist, you can try out the Brainwash playlist and its various add-ons.

I had pretty strong effects and auditory hallucinations. So the files can be very effective and should be handled with care. A tulpa or DID seems to be a possible side effect.

The effects do wear down if you manage to stop listening for a while.

There are many suggestions to make you more vulnerable and more open to manipulation.

>>40625

I would stop listening if it's not doing much and your losing interest. Same happen to me and I just deleted the series. Dont waste your time

>>40625

If you really want to mindfuck yourself, chastity cages are basically a must.

>>40627

>If you really want to mindfuck yourself, chastity cages are basically a must.

This pretty much.

The fap reflex is the eject button your brain is using to get you out of the file as quickly as possible. Chastity is the end game, if you go ahead and use one then you've taken away the only eject button you have.

I'm happier with the eject button though at this stage I haven't touched B4mb1 files in over 2 weeks.

>>40628

Yeah I can attest to that, once I introduced the cage to B4mb1’s uniform, the sessions got a bit more real. I could find myself listening to a 2 hour playlist every night and barely noticing it was happening.

>>40629

Yeah, listening everyday while wearing a chastity belt most or all of the time could make B4mb1 crazily strong.

>>40630

I mean, the amnesia effects are definitely working for me at this point, and my mannerisms and presentation have been moving towards a more androgynous-leaning feminine as the conditioning has gone along. I don’t believe in any of the Tulpa bs, but when I’m in uniform I totally feel like I’m way more vapid than I usually am.

>>40631

>ywn make sure anon is kept locked in his chastity cage and keep him focused on becoming cute and training himself with B4mb1 files

anyone know what's coming next?

>>40646

Maybe in another life anon-san~

>>40459

Which file order gave you the HFO?

>>40664

Delete it dood. Your not doing yourself any favors by listening to it. Move on to something else. Imo B4mb1 files made me quit listening to hypno. I stop wasting my time on files that dont do shit. So move on

>>40669

I know man, it's not worth the possibility of another panic attack, fuck that.

>>40664

You might like K31 files as an alternative. They have very similar themes but leave you feeling happy and positive instead of like a brain dead hooker.

>>40674

No I listened to those too, no difference in how I feel afterward, with or without fapping, and those files drag on and on and on even more than B4mb1 files.

Like I said, fetish gone too far, I won't bother with erotic hypnosis anymore, just a giant fucking meme and massive waste of time.

>>40673

you had the exact same thing happen that I had. I think the panic attacks are an overall positive sign that you don't want the files to work.

I only now casual CD at nights, which is still fun.

>>40649

<Oblivion Loop

fuuu.. yeah no. Sounds hot as fuck but that shit will ruin me.

>>40680

Did you try Oblivion, or did you stop before it’s release?

>>40629

B4mb1 with chastity in her uniform is a must. She gotta suck cock to take it off. Either way, a perfect bimbo fuckpuppet

>>40686

Sucking cock would not even work reliably. B4mb1 with chastity triggered in a uniform would most likely stay that way for more than 24 hours, and B4mb1 will surely want to listen to a playlist again, re-triggering her even deeper down.

>>40681

oblivion made me stop using the files all together. An actual Oblivion Loop is end-game shit. Its like the cock loop but even worse and that files crazy effective if using it while sleeping as the patreon says, the original sleep loop kinda sucked.

>>40694

>the brain responding this way as a defense mechanism

Given whats happened to me in the past 3 weeks I can confirm that this is exactly what is going on. I've stopped the files completely. No more voice in my head, I still dress up, I still fap but I don't get any of the usual regret that I normally did with the files.

I think you'll find that there are triggers in the files associated with arousal and that once you loose the arousal the desired "feel like crap" trigger kicks in.

My advice would be to go off the files. I find myself much happier without them now. The only time you should ever trance with the files is during a moment where you need to clear your head and avoid the takeover files at all cost as those are the main causes of why we all feel like shit after a session. Just stick with 1,2,3,10. Don't add the other files.

>>40704

>end game shit

Nah. For all the hoopla in the thread about the Oblivion file your old personality is still there. The suggestions also vary dramatically from one person to the next.

The real end game would be a file focused on outright removing or deleting the old personality so literally only B4mb1 is left, inside and outside of her uniform. That is the ultimate end point in my opinion, a real "There is no going back, ever" moment.

>>40705

>That is the ultimate end point in my opinion, a real "There is no going back, ever" moment.

Pretty sure that's exactly what the loops going to do. And the old personality is still there but is tortured to do what B4mb1 wants. Once the files transcribed you'll realize how fucked up it truly is.

>>40708

>No, I'm fucking done. I was fine not listening to any B4mb1 files and erotic hypno for the past 3 months and look at what happened to me when I returned because my urges got too strong again the past 2 days.

And this people is what I said was called the dreaded relapse. I agree. Best of luck anon. I wish you a happy life. Taking inspiration from you I'd be happier to never touch the damn files ever again.

>>40704

" that files crazy effective if using it while sleeping as the patreon says"

can you please say what the patreon advised, precisely, to make files more effective? just listen while sleeping or was there more stuff?

>>40707

>And the old personality is still there but is tortured to do what B4mb1 wants.

Where exactly does it say that in these files, because I saw no mention of that in the scripts I read.

Here we go again with the scaremongering. You can't be hypnotized to do anything you don't want, and you knew exactly what you were getting into when you first started listening to these files people.

>>40710

In oblivion it's placed needles around the old self's neck, that B4mb1 loves to use to euthanize the old personality to keep it from taking control again

>>40709

I honestly wish I never discovered these files, or hell erotic hypnosis in general, because its just been a massive waste of time for some brief moments of escapism/fantasy until reality kicks in when fapping and then its just regret, but then you get hooked and rinse, repeat and it's a difficult cycle to break out of like porn addiction, in fact its the same really.

>>40714

>euthanize

lmao that a nice little word to try and portray it as something much more evil than it is. The needle collar lets B4mb1 put her old personality to sleep when needed, that's literally it.

>>40715

>>40709

>>40708

>I have no self control: the posts

This is almost as bad as the "HYPNOSIS MADE ME GAY I TOTALLY WASN'T CLOSETED ALL LONG" crowd.

>>40716

I'm admitting I have no self control though, or that rather at moments it becomes weak, urges take over, and I relapse back to listening to the hypno and then always regret it afterwards.

What's your fucking point? That I shouldn't be listening to this stuff if I have problems with self control? Well I agree, too bad I have suffered from relapses again and again though.

I never have any regrets or shame when listening to hypno, am I weird?

>>40717

You might as well just give in and be a good girl and just have fun with B4mb1 :D

>>40718

Nah, you just have a fetish and aren’t ashamed of it, don’t give into autistic fears over text to speech porn

>>40712

>Here we go again with the scaremongering.

>Where exactly does it say that in these files, because I saw no mention of that in the scripts I read.

I said its in regards to the Oblivion file. You'll see soon enough, its the part with the needles its right at the end of the file.

Fuck right back off to the discord you worthless trannys.

>>40716

>>I have no self control: the posts

Said the obvious peice of shit posting on a hypnosis website. I would've been better off never having discovered this crappy board.

Go back to your file begging faggot.

>>40722

go away and don't come back, we don't care about you

>>40723

eh what ever most of you faggots are from Reddit anyway. Embed related.

>>40722

>Listens to oblivion

>thinks they’re on some sort of higher ground that the trannies on the discord

???

best playlist so far?

>>40727

B4mb1 Sleep Darude Sandstorm ReMixXXx

>>40722

Imagine being this assblasted that you got called out on your shit that you have to resort to calling everyone in the thread trannies while sperging out.

>>40730

yeah lol, just a pathetic person =p

>>40738

A pretty fun trip, sometimes find myself looping it without realizing it after one listen. Really you into that deep, dumb space. That is, if you’ve been receptive to the files so far.

new thread

>>40739

new thread

>>40739

new thread

>>40739

this one flew past the bump limit in a record 23 days

>>40712

> You can't be hypnotized to do anything you don't want

While hypnosis can't make you do anything you don't want, hypnosis can change what you want.

>>40717

Try V1v3's Deep Clean. Others have reported success.

>>40652

On my first listen, I listened to 1-10. But I came around file 8-9 and didn't finish because it was so intense I had no idea HFO was possible (at least I didn't think I was capable of having one at the time).

>>40717

You're a pussy. Get the fuck out.

>>40798

Fuck you too cunt.

How hypnosis works: https://www.likera.com/forum/mybb/Thread-General-hypnosis-discussion?pid=30350#pid30350

(B4mb1 is mentioned as a hypno-example to avoid ;) )