/hypno/ - Hypnochan

>>32247

Qu33n Pa5510nat3 has a few, I think? Part one of the hive series has some sort of trust/rapport building at the start before flipping into hard brainwashing/slavery once you're under, with stuff like memory and identity removal, iirc.

I'd imagine mzD0m1n1ca has a bunch too. One of her old free files (trance4free) starts pretty innocuously then switches to making you her slave and actively works to erase any former programming from other tists.

>>32249

Thank you. I look forward to checking them out! I'll try the Qu33n one first. I'm very grateful!

>>32247

Sam+ant+ha Ban+dl+er hands down is the biggest unethical betrayer hypnotist out there. As a quick example SB has some files that seem on the surface to be self-improvement / gain confidence / be more popular with women / increases your penis size / fantasy with a teacher / asian girl / etc. But every single one contains tricks and subliminals that instead will ruin a hetero male and make him either a sissy or gay or both. Even worse it is usually a slow and subtle gradual change rather than a sudden jolt so guys who are unprepared don't even realize anything has changed until they suddenly wake up to weird thoughts or cravings.

>>32253

It's not as if I disagree, but I'd really like to see some specifics on the SB subliminals.

Like, a spreadsheet or something.

>>32255

>>32253

Idk if it's fair to say she's all that devious though. From the files I've listened to, all of her instructions are pretty blatant. She also says to listen without the intent of trancing so you know what you are getting into. Afaik none of the sneaky files are listed in the straight section of her site. Could be wrong though.

>>32256

(splitting post into two because post was too long to post)

The thing about SB that most common hypnotist enthusiast fans do not understand is that he or she is obviously a trained psychologist or psychiatrist whereas the vast majority of hypnotists you will come across on the internet are not but instead just performers and / or erotic phone sex workers basically.

What this means is that the hypnotist behind the persona of SB understands exactly how the human brain thinks and retains information and how to give messages deeper impact. Meanwhile most hypnotists are either just hypnosis enthusiasts or sex traders making a buck from said enthusiasts.

A common hypnotist may use layered voices to "reinforce" a message. Someone like SB can split push a message and bypass a listener's conscious defenses. Say a common hypnotist says something like "the sky is really colored neon pink". No matter how many times you hear it you are unlikely to believe it even with 3 different layered voices all saying the same thing. SB on the other hand will have voice one say "the sky is beautiful today" while voice two says "it is really important to relax" and voice three says "the flamingo is colored neon pink". Your conscious mind interprets it as three different complete sentences, but with the proper pausing and volume fading your actual memory will look more like the other message but without the listener's resistance fighting it.

Another trick SB uses that common hypnotists do not understand is that the human brain cannot handle too much information at once. This is why things like phone numbers and social security numbers have those pauses to force group splitting. 123656749 is meaningless and yet too long to be readily remembered but 123-65-6749 is remembered as three different things yet paired together. When SB uses the sentence pausing trick it causes your brain to "split" sentences. For example a common SB line would be something like "It is important to realize that it is good that you are curious about how hypnosis works" with pauses before and after the "you are curious" part to block it off as an subconscious memory separate from the rest while your conscious mind does not even register that anything weird is happening.

The next trick of psychology / psychiatry that SB employs is differentiation and diffusion. At the start of a video file SB will emphasize looking at the sexy girls, the words "sexy" or "hot" for example is reinforced over and over to go with the girls. Meanwhile when talking about the listener or men at the start if mentioned at all it will use words like "strong" or "great". Around the midpoint, after constant repetition of one gender getting one set of adjectives and the other getting different ones, slowly more and more the listener has the female-directed adjectives applied more and more commonly while also slowly weaning out the masculine-directed ones. Then by the end of a file the listener is being told they will be sexy and hot and very popular. This transference of gender is very pavlovian in nature but subtle enough that an untrained person will not even notice the importance taking part right in front of them. Some might even recognize eventually that they have changed to a female perspective but they will have no clue when exactly the change took place or how long it has been building to that point. This means even if they reject the "obvious" message they will have still been affected by the more subtle parts for quite a while before the cognitive awareness took place.

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>>32267

(Continued from above due to length limits)

Yet another trick employed by SB can be seen in a large percentage of the video files. Images are overlayed and replaced with each other quickly. SB however will casually insert suggestive images such as a girl bent over or in bondage with other images such as a woman wearing strap-on harness or with a whip or leash in her hand. Other suggestive mental imagery includes various "phallic" objects such as a a stair handrail which fade into or get faded into by the images of submissive females.

The next trick SB uses is most commonly displayed by stage magicians, three card monte hustlers, as well as pickpockets and other petty larceny thiefs. It entails deliberately bringing attention to one thing to keep the audience enthralled / distracted and thus allow other things to slip by unnoticed. If any of the other tricks bypassed your awareness… Ask yourself something every time you actually notice something as being pretty blatant… "Why would a hypnotist who can subtly slip in all of these other subliminal psyche brain games that I never noticed before someone pointed them out also blurt out loud and obviously something like this which anyone without any kind of training can see / hear?"

Every single one of the tricks mentioned in this post is subtle enough that many an untrained eye / ear never consciously realizes "there is something being reinforced here". But psychological testing has proven that these are all tricks that do work without needed conscious awareness. This is how someone can want the hypnosis experience without wanting to be changed and yet still exhibit gradual or even significant changing with exposure. Ironically, the only ones who are reasonable safe from being changed are the ones who either learn in different ways than a normal human brain, or someone who has already been so exposed to similar concepts as the subliminally suggested content so that it stops becoming a "learning" experience and stops having a strong mental reaction. In other words, both someone who learns differently than normal and also someone with a fetish for that content may find themselves unmoved and wondering what the fuss is about.

I am not saying that every single subliminal tried by SB will affect a person or that every person will be affected, what I am saying is that SB is the most devious about slipping them in, and even when you "think" you spotted all of the subliminals you may very well have consciously overlooked many other subconscious ones. I also state my opinion that SB doing this in even the "straight" content is a clear case of failed ethics / morals and makes him or her a hypnotist that should be warned about and boycotted by a community that considers hypnotism to be a path of entertainment.

Who did the Gay Pride Parade hypno

>>32253

Like what files? The only one I know is "penis enlargement".

>>32293

Penis Enlargement is sold in the 'sissy' section. The description: "Have you ever wondered why some people say Bigger is Better? Every man wonders at some point what it would it be like having a really big penis between your legs knowing how sexy women like it and behave differently having a big cock because desiring a large penis is natural and this recording will develop it naturally for you. Listen to this recording every day for 21 days feeling better and better about a large cock and having a larger penis.

Be sure to send your 'before' measurement to 54m4nth4 so she can track who benefits the most from this session."

I think it's humorous at best. I doubt few sissies are looking for their own 'penis enlargement'. SB obviously believes that obfuscation helps, but I dispute the idea that she is unethical.

>>32301

I already know everything you just said.

>>32255

>>32268

Seriously though, given all the time you've put into writing these warnings all over this board, couldn't you do some more in-depth analysis? If you really care about this, you should put in some more effort..

>>32332

>>32293

>>32301

How the heck can you not consider someone trying to use psychological tricks to change someone without their consent as being unethical and devious? It is frankly a crime on the teachings he or she had to have received to become either a psychologist or a psychiatrist. You are not supposed to harm your patients, you are not supposed to do anything to them without their consent, and you are supposed to be up front with your patient on what the goals of a session are supposed to be. As someone who received psychology training myself I find this behavior by the hypnotist in question to be abominable.

Which files have the tricks in them you ask? All of them, but to name a few specifically then P1ck Up @rt1st 101, 202, 303, My @s1@n G1rl 1, 2, P3rsu@s1@n 1, 2, Compliance 101, 202, 303, 404, each and every free YT video including ones named for straight men or skeptics of trance to use - to varying levels but partly in every one, etc.

As for "specifics" I have repeatedly stated specifics both in this thread and countless others when asked. Triggers used, changes made, stated how the tricks work and what they do.

If you still are posting that I have not then you are either blinkered, not reading posts before responding to them, or trolling me.

As for a specific file P3n1s 3nl@rg3m3nt being sold in the sissy session, I haven't visited SB sites in ages (SB has had 3 that I am aware of) so no clue where files are located now. I do know for a fact though that if it isn't still for sale in straight areas of the site that it used to be. And some of the other files I named above were as well.

>>32334

All I'm saying is if you're gonna say "psychological testing" this and that, point us towards the literature. Why should I believe what you're saying?

>>32336

Who cares what you believe. Your belief structure will cause you to reject anything that challenges it and accept anything that supports it.

Previous poster just finished explaining how SB's files work. I appreciate the depth of information presented but would suggest you be a good boy and just carry on listening without any further concerns.

As SB says. 'good boys like to play, good boys pay their way'

>>32344

Look, I'm not saying they're wrong. They just haven't presented anything to support their argument.They mention a bunch of tricks that have apparently been proven to be effective - so surely there must be some published material out there. Psychology isn't my field, or else I would have started looking myself.

>>32301

But what other files pull the subversion, man? You've got me intrigued.

Also where can I find some of this stuff, it sounds great.

>>32424

I think the file nur53 4m4nd4'5 1mp073nc3 7h3r4py 535510n f0r 5155135 (don't who it's by though) does similar, where it's supposed to cure impotence in sissies but does the opposite.

>>32425

That 4m4nd4 file is clearly intended to create performance anxiety while sounding like a sincere attempt to bolster a sissy's confidence. It's really a very funny file if you don't take it seriously, but continued serious listening will bring on impotence, I am sure.

B4ndl3r is not selling mp3s as a psychologist, nor claiming that she is doing psychological treatment, so there is no APA ethical violation. Her site clearly portrays her as a hypno domme, and it's clear to anyone paying attention that she likes turning men into chastised, limp, anal-receptive submissive sissys.

It seems more than silly to object that her files are effective - isn't that what her users are paying for?

>>32456

*Cough* His. This has already been confirmed and a pretty big FYI for some. Though sissies gonna sissy.

>>32466

Oh fuck off you pendantic cunt, everyone knows.

>>32456

That last bit was on point. "Oh it's too strong" well what the hell are you buying this shit for?!

MzD0m1n1ca's free introductory file Captured 1 starts out innocent and nurturing, but once she implants her powerful pleasure trigger, she turns you into her obedient slave, and gives you a post hypnotic suggestion to post a review.

3||3ch3my has the ASMR voice of a siren, and her soft sweet words will lull you down deep before you even realize it and muster the will to turn the mp3 player off. She gives you weird posthypnotic suggestions to "prove your loyalty to her."

>>32456

>>32495

Sorry was away for a couple days.

I have two issues with SB and your defense that it is alright because everyone knows and just is getting more than they expected… if that was really true I would be agreeing.

However, we're not talking just about files that have in the file name something like "Gay", "Sissy", or "Feminization" but the rest of the SB files including ones that get placed as straight material. Furthermore, any other hypnotist that has feminizing files will say it explicitly, whereas SB is far more subtle about the intentions. This results in a situation where uninformed beginners to the hypnosis scene can fall into the trap unless someone like me is around to alert them to these issues.

I have no issues with veterans using the stuff if they are aware what hidden stuff is contained within, but for example last week someone put up a SB file in the anonymous HFO thread. That right there is not good since its treating a nuke as if it was a nerf toy. Then when I warned people about it I got yelled at. The same situation goes for this thread.

The thread asks which hypnotists and tracks contains the most tricks and betrayal. I do not understand why anyone would argue on this point. Files that purport to increase a guy's ability to date women or be more attractive to them or increase penis size or any of the other draws… but instead turn them into the complete opposite pretty much fits the thread details. And SB does it through tricks rather than a hammer message "you will be a sissy" which is more easily defended against by someone if it is an accidently exposed situation.

>>32377

Sorry I was away for a couple days.

I would love to give you links, but the problem is that the original studies were done as part of anti-gay research and due to LGBT backed laws the studies have all been supressed. And, no, that is not just an excuse. I can cite you the exact years that various court rulings were upheld and state who had done the research and in what year, and even show you proof that research went on then but the actual research is closed more out of fear of financial damages than criminal findings but the end result is the same.

To be fair, some of the things the experimental studies did should have been shut down even before they were. But the fact that "any" studies on gender preference as a psychological disorder have been banned did more harm than good in my opinion. It's weird that society accepts that people can have ADHD and still be acceptable as a normal person but even a whisper that your gender preference might be because of psychological differences and you become Satan himself these days. I half suspect the whole reason SB resorted to the hypnodomme business was because could no longer experiment legally as a psychologist / psychiatrist on transgendered people so just flipped it around to use as a domme prop from the opposite direction. - But that is beside the point, so getting back on topic..

However, just because the actual data of the studies is no longer viewable, the resulting knowledge we gained from those studies is still printed in generally every psychology book you can get your hands on. It just means you need to do a little bit of research to find it if you were not already in the know.

If you're up for a little bit of research let me know and I'll give you a short (err longish short) list of terms to research at the local library or whatever and a list of psychologists and studies to look up as cross reference to find the redacted information for yourself.

>>32525

A warning is appropriate. I'm in favor of warning people, I'm glad you've shared this information across various threads because it's been helpful. People are responding to your tone. Your tone is putting people off, and probably making them want to listen to the files just to spite you.

Are you aware that you're getting very uppity and insistent about this stuff, and when people call you on it, you're acting like you're being persecuted? This is really annoying to most people, and because this is a chan site, they're not going to be polite with you about it.

I am glad you've been sharing information. I would like for you to continue sharing information, just please understand that people are not treating you unfairly. You need to cool it and stop acting like you have a persecution complex.

>>32526

since you seem to know what you're talking about, what's the best way to deprogram from SB's methods? i could use the help

>>32534

What is your programming?

>>32534

Stop listening

>>32525

>Then when I warned people about it I got yelled at.

Probably because not knowing what the file was or what it's effects were was the fucking point you dipshit. If you don't want suprising effects, maybe don't fucking listen to files completely fucking blind. Anyone with an IQ over 55 should be able to figure that out.

At the very fuck least, learn to use spoiler tags.

Most people here aren't newbies in off of hearing Jackpot for the first time, this is a fucking 8chan erotic hypnosis specialty board with like 50 total posters.

>>32577

mostly the c101-c404

>>32585

i know but i feel like shit if i stop

>>32598

Nah he's a legit nut and S4MB4N is effective and has tons of underhaded shit in them but none of it works like he thinks it does

>>32598

Seriously?

First, stop trying to chase me around just so you can get your trolling kick in. The only one looking foolish by these petty attacks is yourself.

Second, I repeat that I am not a "shill". Just because someone posts something, which you do not like, it does not make it automatically someone with an agenda.

Third, the last of those posts you linked was not even mine. Nice accusing me for stuff I did not even write. Look elsewhere for the author of 32344. The other posts all were mine, but it had nothing to do with trying to hide my identity. It's called posting on a different computer. I have two and one did not have my name set yet and I forgot to force set it. But, even if I 'had' been trying to hide… what the hell? You never post as anything except anonymous and yet you're trying to attack me based on posts I made while on my other computer? Lame as hell attack.

Fourth, how the hell is your brain so obtuse that you can not understand the difference between trancing to a "play" file and trancing to an abnormal file. The moment a hypnotist creates a file with the intent of tricking people it changes things. SB did everything they could to make hard changes to even unwilling listeners. You can not deny that fact. Regardless, of whether you feel the hypnotist succeeded or not, the fact remains that they attempted to do it. That by default means the files need to be treated differently than ordinary ones. Just because "you" may not mind that risk does NOT mean you speak for everyone. Stop spewing your filth all over the place on these boards. Just because you can't separate your selfishness, from impacting innocent people's lives, it does not make these boards your personal domain.

Fifth, accusations of my grammar sense are always accepted. But only if you actually complied yourself to those guidelines. Furthermore, I fail to see how you can possibly be accusing me of "run-on sentences". Unless your knowledge of grammar is subpar of course. Newsflash… a true "run-on sentence" has no clear definition of ending. It contains multiple sentences without any periods, semicolons, or elipses. At worst you can accuse me of making "overly long sentences" rather than "run-on sentences". Just a grammar hint since you missed the lesson… Those commas around certain groups of words? Those identify extraneous detail information, that qualifies or modifies a sentence, which can be removed and leave a functional sentence behind. See what I just did there? Yeah, that is not a "run-on sentence". I simply prefer giving full information as a writing style preference. Now, accusations regarding my paragraph length would have been accurate. Then again, since nothing else you ever post is accurate, you would not want to set a new precedent of being correct when trolling.

>>32534

>what's the best way to deprogram from SB's methods?

Poster 32585 is correct. For something like this there really is no quick or easy solution. Trying to deprogram yourself will do nothing to stop the hidden connections. This is because they have already been wired into your brain. Duration of exposure simply determines how reinforced the messages are, but even a short exposure will have already formed the mental bonds.

Think of SB files like alcohol or drugs or even smoking cigarettes. Mentally your brain has at least tentatively linked the files with good feelings. And those links are both watching the files and the messages within them. This means, if you want to return to the "before" state, you need to abstain and just try to ignore or overcome the unwanted thoughts and impulses.

The good news is that, unlike most drugs or cigarettes, it should not cause physical pain to abstain. The bad news however is that it is most likely going to be rough to go cold turkey, but failure to quit cold will only make the problem deeper.

You "could" try the so-called "alpha male reprogramming" hypno. However, be forwarned that, rather than solving the problem, at best it will fail. At worst it may even cause acute anxiety or possibly DID (dissociative identity disorder). This is because the programming will not counter but rather compound. Which means that emotionally and logically you will be torn between conflicting responses.

>>32593

Well, what exactly happens?

>>32604

Honestly i think these posts are some form of marketing because i listened to some 54m4nth4 B4nd|3r files and they were lame as fuck. Take it with a grain of salt op. Don't pay 40$ for these low effort files for sure.

>>32607

Don't know why people are being so hostile and stupid as fuck. I enjoy reading your posts. They are very informative and interesting.

Also what was that alpha reprogramming you were referring to? What files?

>>32586

>this is a fucking 8chan erotic hypnosis specialty board with like 50 total posters

We have more unique IPs and posts per hour than longstanding boards like /fit/, mu/, and recently /fur/. It's fucking sad but 8chan isn't in great shape nowadays.

>>32607

>>32525

>>32526

>>32604

So, do you have a mediafire or mega of said files? Nothing turns me on more than being "tricked", and 3MG Curs3 5155y let me drooling for weeks until RL restrained my amount of free time alone to listen to it.

>>32598

I am the author of >>32344 and I posted in a response to your 1 line troll posts.

You seem to get real pleasure from trolling a legitimate and interesting response that was on thread. Now your only come back is an attack on grammar?

Just a sec, I'm the guy that posted >>32336, and not the guy that posted >>32598 (although I have to agree that you (or whoever posted >>32604) have been doing a better job of advertising SB than warning against them, as per >>32495). I'm not trying to troll, and I do find what they're saying to be interesting - I just doubt it's legitimacy.

Anyway, to get back to >>32526, please do give me whatever search terms and studies you do have, and "cite you the exact years that various court rulings were upheld and state who had done the research and in what year, and even show you proof that research went on then". I'm not sure why you didn't just do that in the first place, instead of babbling about "psychological differences". PS: "transgendered" isn't a word.