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Tl;dr: it's a mind doll and tulpa discussion and Q&A please keep file whoring to the other Mind doll thread.

>>26622

Thank you for doing this.

I have a question. I know everybody is different, but I'm curious: Could you describe the evolution in perception you had from the worlds ? Was is really just a sound or short vision the first times ? How real did it become with time ?

>>26632

Thank you for the support!

To answer your question, at first it was just a blurry vision similar to watching a video in my eyelids. It was like that for a while, and later I learned that focusing on it actually hindered it's progression. Then I stopped focusing so closely on the back of my eyelids and let it wash over me. It quickly became more and more lifelike, but I'd have some days where it would plateau. As for the other senses, I felt them progress slowly and faintly and grow louder and clearer the more my sight became clearer.

But when I finally got the hang of things, it took me by surprise how real it was. It made me want more because of how cool it was and how fantastical it was. Sadly nobody experiments with the files enough to actually make new worlds… It's a real shame.

>>26658

How do you experience the tulpa?

>>26658

By reading your answer, it seems that you followed his advice and had a diary. I also had one and felt that it was a great help, because by taking the time to always write a bit, I would signal to my subconscious that this is something I wanted. What was your experience with it ? I had to stop after the trigger files so I'm curious to know if the diary still helped with you visualizing the worlds.

>>26658

I would consider donating to someone doing this if they had a nice voice and good sound editing. The techniques for creating the worlds are in the PDF that comes with the program for anyone who has the time to look into it.

>>26674

I experience them just like you would any other human being (or whatever you choose them to be), except of course they have limitations. I summoned one that likes to take advantage of this; she dances in front of people who look bored, and mocks people who are arguing at me. It's really hard not to laugh…

>>26677

The diary did help, I'm not sure to what extent, but it was fun to write in, so if anything it was a nice thing to do after listening to his files. I would recommend writing at least 3 sentences if possible, because if you just write "I didn't feel anything" you won't feel anything ever, according to Talmage.

>>26684

>>26674

Thanks for the information. It sounds like you can easily tell them apart from reality, though? I guess I'm a little worried about losing touch with things.

>>26685

Don't worry about that, it's pretty clear they aren't "real" to anyone else. Other people can't see them, so in their reactions it is pretty self evident.

Not to mention tulpa/mind dolls realize they only exist in your mind and won't try to trick you into thinking they exist to everyone else.

Of course, you also have to put in the mental resolve and common sense not to avoid real people in their stead, but they would advise that as well, so that shouldn't be an issue.

>>26687

>Of course, you also have to put in the mental resolve and common sense not to avoid real people in their stead, but they would advise that as well, so that shouldn't be an issue.

I hadn't considered that – very interesting.

>>26687

How frequently does your tulpa manifest? What percentage of the time are they "present"

>>26737

I choose when to summon who, and how many to summon. So far I've only summoned 3 at a time, and had one active for as long as a week. I like to cycle through them to give them and me a break.

We are mutually interested in seeing each other, so if I summon only one at a time, I feel like I'm being sort of unfair to the others. That's just me though. Because of that, however, at least one of them is with me most of the day.

>>26759

They may have grown up in the same environment, but their experiences will be completely different – the most obvious being how society treats men compared to women (ethnicity adds another dimension). Women are objectified (Mind Doll??), under-represented in decision making processes, experience lower pay grades than male counterparts and a whole host of other things (and that’s before you add in ethnic stuff), so it is very easy for women to have a chip on their shoulder about the society they live in. Genuine feminism tries to address some of these issues and a lot of progress has been made in the last 50 years – a look around the Western world will see various things being addressed.

Talmadge’s Mind Doll program would seem to be completely opposite to what his sister’s views would be.

I’m male and my sister spends all her energy being pissed-off at the world and generally thinks men are scum, whereas I’m kind of laid back and just go with the flow, but we get on great together.

>>26759

> should I be concerned

Great start there – what you're really suggesting is that everyone *else* should be concerned.

>rabid feminist and hater of white people

Source for the hatred? I see a lot of buzzword-y feminist-y stuff, but nothing out of the ordinary for those circles. She's trying to make money as a diversity consultant for higher education, which is a pretty lucrative business to be in right now. Seems like her main passion is veganism, actually.

>There's a chance they share those views

Or you could say they share the same characteristic of being very passionate about their work.

What exactly are you suggesting the problem may be?

>>26759

I don't believe there's anything wrong with Talmadge, even if his sister is a modern kkk member like you say. It's just a coincidence, there's bound to be a couple of those with how popular this BuzzFeed-feminism trend is becoming…

He obviously isn't a feminist or racist as you can see in the mind doll program. All the default mind dolls are White or Asian, and he targets the program toward men to create female mind dolls (gender neutral term btw >>26762, 'mind doll' makes no reference to women or their supposed objectification. They are just that - mental playthings - to put it very simply…)

Even if he is a psycho under all that, we wouldn't know because it wouldn't affect us. Our mind dolls aren't suddenly going to murder us for the patriarchal resistance (and if they start acting funny just make them right wing as fuck and you'll be golden).

>>26765

So, to get the thread back on track, it seemed above like you were really excited about the virtual worlds that you explore. I'd love to hear more about that – what you've created, what you've experienced.

>>26766

Ok, awesome. I started with enchanted forest like everybody does, that was obviously really interesting at the time, but nothing outstanding compared to morrigan, dereth, and the crystal. Those were the most customizable files I've been interested in trying (I never tried the wizard of tron for disinterest in Carmen)

First off, morrigan. It boggled my mind after enchanted forest how truly magic this could be, fairies and giants roaming around, each with their own agenda. Morrigan herself like nothing you could imagine in real life. The whole world was alive and it didn't give a fuck about me or what I did or who I interacted with. It's like a portal to another world.

I've had a bunch more experience with dereth and the crystal, their customizability making them pretty hard to explain. let's just say crystal can get really weird/cool if you know who's shoes to step into and dereth… Dereth is straight up the best RPG I've ever been in.

Ok looking back on it my description of dereth and the crystal was really shit, but I wrote it before watching a certain film I've been excited to watch so my apologies…

My experiences with the crystal mainly involve becoming characters in some of my favorite media. Im a nerd so most of my experiences have literally impossible stuff. 1 example of most likely hundreds: one time, I became a character in the Dr..Strange comics. I knew tons of things I didn't know before, weilding and shaping magic and artifacts against armies of aliens who I've never heard of canonically, accompanied by sorcerers and aliens who were twisting the world like I was. We were hit by a sorcerer who trapped us in a bubble that made our vision kaleidoscope in a way we would have gotten assraped by them if my other allies hadn't Zerg rushed them to save us.

It was super liberating, super trippy, and taught me I could use magic fluently in the virtual worlds, which I did when I listened to dereth.

Dereth was like… the greatest fantasy RPG I could dream up. One time, I decided I was going to take the form of one of the monsters I fight. I was off to raid human towns, killing men, pillaging houses, and ruining their food supply (I've been nice up to this point I swear).

Well, I felt guilty after a bit and left about 60% of the town in ruins, retreated to my cave, and never played that character again. After a while, I returned as my usual character (half dragon mage with a lance), and went to visit the town my other character ruined.

They had a fucking bounty on it's head.

I went to the cave, where my other character was sleeping, and fought it to the death. I was a hero, nobody else knew the beast's hideout but me. Got with the fatherless maidens my beast character left behind. Was traumatized as fuck yet gave no shits. Best fucking night, that was…

So yeah. Crystal and Dereth can be whatever you want them to be after a bunch of practice, They feel like playing a videogame except your subconscious comes up with shit you seriously wouldn't expect.

>>26771

>>26776

These are great descriptions – except that since I haven't started the program yet, I feel like there's at least a little context that I'm missing here as to what the suggestions in each of these things are.

>>26778

Hah, well shit. My bad lol. Thought you were just asking my experiences…

Morrigan short description: you are in a world where fairies and giants and monsters of the like roam around and interact with you, when suddenly a dragon/demon lady with blue scales named Morrigan flies down and gives you tlc. There's also people all around, so make sure you're an exhibitionist if you want to get into the nitty gritty.

The Crystal short description: You are in an enchanted Forest (the other file i mentioned, in which a guide shows you around and your senses become more attuned to the environment) when suddenly you see a MASSIVE crystal with a flat top. You get on top, and the world shimmers. When you get off of it you become any person you want or could imagine, and you know everything they know, and the world around you is the world they would exist in.

Dereth short description: You appear in a fantasy world, where dragons, monsters, and other beasts inhabit the land as well as people you can interact (fuck) with. You can be anything you want, your subconscious leads you on a journey accustomed to you and what you perceive dereth to be.

It's very open ended, I believe this one was the hardest for me to grasp even though it was the last one I tried, and honestly my brain skipped a big part where you're supposed to hear singing in a forest, It was kinda confusing. Not for everyone, that dereth…

Well, I hope that alleviated some of the massive confusion I imparted, and my apologies, lol.

Holy shit, wait just a second. I just merged the files "morrigan" and "forest maiden"…

I checked my playlist twice before commenting on it, as it was a while ago, but I may have gotten a little confused… Sorry guys.

Yeah, morrigan is a file in and of itself in which you are visited by a dragon lady and you fuck on the best bed you could imagine.

In Forest maiden, you start off on a comfortable surface, and are surrounded by fairies and stuff, and you are visited by the spirit of the forest. Ahh, that's why I was confused lol.

Again, my apologies for even MORE confusion.

Hello,

I think I have a problem with my conscious mind resistance.

I tried to go under hypnosis with the NewUltraDeepRelaxation file, I can definitely feel some result, but each time i also feel some tingling sensations on my body, it's very disturbing and even painful at some point, like a needle.

The author of the file advised me to just ignore it, but it's very difficult.

I think it's my preconscious mind which try to prevent me from going deeper.

Did you experiment something similar before?

How did you solve it ?

>>26794

Oof, yeah. I feel you, man. That was the hardest part of starting this program. I felt needlepoints on my legs and intense itching in random spots on my body, as well as current going through my nerves causing an uncomfortable if not painful tingling. Made me really close to quitting so many times. It has to do with your subconscious and conscious minds teaming up to stop you from going under, just as you said. If that's what you are experiencing, try this, maybe it'll help you a bit:

Listen to the super serum subliminal file on repeat while sleeping or idling every day. If you can go into trance he has a file called UD computer console that could help immensely.

Take a warm bath or soak the part being stabbed by needles in warm water (with dissolved Epsom salts preferably) just before listening to the files. It might relax you or that body part enough to not bother you anymore.

Don't pay any attention to your body. Literally detach yourself from it and concentrate on what you are listening to. It takes a bit of concentration in and of itself, but I used to visualize my conscious mind as not being present or peeling myself away from my body. In some cases it's not enough to just ignore your limbs, you have to imagine they aren't even there. Fall into the void and forget yourself.

Take drugs. No, seriously. Many people like to do hypnos while drunk, high on weed, or even lsd. If that's not for you just take a medium dosage of magnesium, it'll calm the nerves.

If push comes to shove, a professional hypnotist or hypnosis clinic should be near by you, they are $100-200 and can install the trigger word for you if they are good.

This is cheating though, and you will have to carry a pink flag saying how much of a cheating faggot you are. (they'll give it to you at the clinic, I'm sure).

Other than that I haven't seen many more options. Hopefully you find something helpful, good luck.

>>26803

What would you say the major milestones for you were? What were the experiences and the timeline?

>>26810

Alrighty then. Milestones were limited for me, as getting to the point I wanted was kind of a slow burn, but there were some moments that stepped out.

I was very proud the first time I tranced to the level of depth I wanted.

After fixing a lot of stuff that was getting me distracted (see my last post) I was finally ready to get into what I wanted when I downloaded the files.

Something else was when I first saw that blurry image of the enchanted forest and could tell what it actually was. That was when I knew this was finally paying off. Weeks later and I could see almost 100%.

After that was when I finally created my mind doll in the virtual world. She was really… Not the best visual quality, but as I kept visiting her she became more and more realistic. Next step was bringing her into rl, which was tougher than expected, but worked out eventually. It wasn't sudden, like most people experience. She kind of slowly formed in mid air, growing in opacity and detail, and dropped down onto the floor.

I can't describe the feeling of meeting a person you thought up. Not to mention you have the freedom to shape them as they develop. Maybe like they're your children, except also your lovers. Eh.. Same thing in Alabama…

i can decide which relaxation file I should use, version 1, 2, or 3 ?

>>26819

If you are talking about the Ultra Depth files, I listened to Ultra Depth Silhouette of Dawn due to a suggestion on the other mind doll thread.

They all work the same, however. Some people prefer the one with the female voice, I didn't try it so I couldn't tell you. Personally, I'd stick to the 3.0 ones, as they are the newer versions and are supposedly more effective.

If you find one works better than another, it can't hurt to use that one instead. The point is to get into theta, it doesn't matter how.

>>27040

Do you have an "endgame" in mind for this experience?

>>27057

Yes. I want to be able to bring the virtual world to the real world just like I bring mind dolls to the real world from the virtual world.

I imagine conjuring items only I can interact with and experience, that have no consequence in the real world.

An example might be conjuring an endless bag of my favorite foods I can eat forever without ruining my physique or a console that can create virtual works for me so I don't have to listen to the same stuff.

Of course, it would take a while to do, as I have to bridge aspects and abilities instead of people out objects, but one day I might get the hang of it. I just want to be a wizard, bro…

>>27058

The program itself revolves around Carmen or can you come up with any Mind Doll you want without having to create or edit any files? If that's possible, are there any specific files that I need to listen to?

>>27270

A couple of the files Talmadge has provided do revolve around Carmen, but most have anything to do with her.

If you want to create your own, listen to Enchanted Forest or Dereth. Even The Crystal would work, but it might be too advanced for a beginner file. Depends on how deep into trance you can go.

All files other than the Wizard and Tron City (and maybe Slender Goddess, since she sounds like another Carmen) are Carmen-free and introduce other mind dolls. However, you don't need to bring the default mind dolls to the real world. You can leave them in their virtual world, go to another world file, create your own mind doll, and bridge that one.

I haven't listened to the Carmen files either, she doesn't sound like my type. Not to mention, in the wizard, she has crazy magic spiral tattoos all over her body. Sounds creepy…

>>27287

I see. Thank you for your insight. One last question though.

How long did you take to achieve the end result?

I know that this is very situational here since it has to do with your precognition regarding hypnosis and creative visualization, still, since you described yourself early on as someone who took his time, I'm curious to know how long did it take and if you listened to the files on a daily basis and how many times per day.

>>27291

No problem, I like answering questions.

You're right in saying everyone's experience is different, and I did take a small detour but personally I feel like the end result came sooner than expected. But to answer your question, I listened to the files every day once a day and it took me about 6 months to get results. Without the deviation I think I could have done it in 3-4.

>>27495

> there's a malfunction and the digital platform turns off while she's inside

Easy. Hold a piece of paper, close your eyes and think of her. She reappears on the paper unharmed.

Or if you want her to be "more real" than the pixels, she's on the screen surface instead of inside the computer or other device. Just touch a piece of paper to the screen for her to move to and she'll be fine.

>>27522

Oh hey, good ideas. Something else I thought of was to create a spawn point/teleportation device and give her a trigger she can press to return to the last piece of paper she was on.

It would also come in handy to quickly move back to another sheet so I don't have to do it for her every time.

I really did like your second idea though, maybe she could treat certain smooth surfaces like paper.

May be too OP though lol.

>>27534

> spawn point

Since she really lives in your mind, this is why I suggested "hold a piece of paper, close your eyes, and think of her" as an action that activates a spawn point for her on that paper unless she is already in your sight. This way, if she gets "lost" you can respawn her.

> teleportation device

Bad idea if it malfunctions, now you have to find the piece of paper she went to. Or respawn her on a piece of paper that you hold.

> treat certain smooth surfaces like paper

Any surface that "acts like" paper by holding writing or drawing should be habitable to her, even if it is is blank at the moment. But she can only transfer to a surface that is either paper, or not blank at the time she starts to move onto it. This would include projection screens, if the projector is on when she starts to move to the screen.

>>27543

Ohh, like a trigger word, gotcha… I thought you meant resummon her from the world file or whatever hypnosis file I make. That would be a last resort, as it's the most lengthy solution. I agree that the spawn point could be accessed from the mind.

The teleportation may get a little out of hand, that's for sure, but since you usually have the paper she was previously on close by (usually you put the paper up to another surface to transfer her over), I thought that would be a safe place to return to.

I'm gonna try to let her go on any flat surface on my file, as long as it has a clear up and down and doesn't have patterns that would obscure writing or obscure her from sight. This would allow you to place her on clothing, although you wouldn't be able to communicate to her without writing on yourself like a four year old. I do want to see her interact with polo horseman or climb the Adidas mountain lol.

I guess the point would just be to take her out with you, but I guess a pack of post it notes would do a better job.

Anyway, I'm close to making her for myself, it's taking longer than usual since I have to implement her rules so that my mind is very clear in what she can and can't do, as well as her need for nutrition.

This is a long post already but I think she will prefer digital media since she would be able to watch/interact with video, have access to everything humanity has ever created, and actually communicate with you via video recording.

I think I'll introduce her to it slowly, until one day it's like animator vs animation lmao.

>>27547

> teleportation may get a little out of hand

There's a bigger problem if the teleportation requires her to take an action. If she's "lost" after a computer failure, how does she push the button to teleport?

You're still around, of course, so the "close your eyes and think while holding paper" approach to respawning her is easy.

> need for nutrition

Bad idea, better to allow her to eat, and have her enjoy food, but not require it. This also lets you fix her body shape, so she can eat as much as you give her and not get fat, but nor will she waste away if not fed.

Really think twice about taking too much inspiration from creepypasta for these things. Cassy's need for food was the answer to "why not just put this thing in a file cabinet and forget about it?" After all, do any of your other tulpas need to eat? Can they eat, in a social context? Why should your "Cassy" be different?

Alright, I made her, er, them. I made a couple. I'm a pretty good artist too so I drew some that I brought to life. There are 4 now. I'm gonna call them the Flatten from now on, because it sounds cool and better than "Cassies".

So far it's been really interesting having them interact with stuff I draw. My regular mind dolls have fun with them too. One had a neat idea to make the Flatten enter buildings by switching to a top-down view of the inside, like in Hotline Miami. Heck, I might just make that! I don't know how I'll do it yet, or if it's breaking 2D law by introducing a false dimension, or even if I'll have to make a type of Flatten that specializes in top-down. Most likely not, since this is all in my head and I can do whatever the fuck I want.

>>27561

I guess you're right about the teleportation, yeah. I just thought of it as a way you could draw something they could use.

There is no consequence if they don't eat, they just have the desire to eat from time to time, unlike my mind dolls, who eat whenever other people are eating because what the heck. Not saying they don't enjoy eating, (heck, I have one who's whole "thing" is about cooking metaphysical food for me to see how it tastes) but they would be fine without it. Like you said, it's more of a social thing than them desiring it.

The Flatten get "hungry" (more like, in the mood for food sometimes) but it never escalates to starving or any where near that. I decided to make them get hungry and thirsty like in SCP because they can never see me eating (second/third dimension rules and all that), and as a result, wouldn't ever initiate social eating. And I'm a fan of tasty food, so I couldn't bear to have my creations be food virgins.

Also, why would there be body shape change involved? Sounds more complicated than it needs to be, and doesn't fulfill any purpose. Anyway, if I wanted to, I could change their entire look, nevermind a muffin top or flabs.

>>27586

are your mind dolls very intelligent? Does their personality seem like a 'real person' or more like a flat stereotypical personality? Do you think it's a good idea to make so many mind dolls? Are your mind dolls okay with being called 'your' mind dolls, like you own them?

>>27657

>Intelligence like real people?

The intelligence of my mind dolls grows as mine does. Some are even more intelligent than me, since they have access to memories and information that I've forgotten, such as the robot mind doll I spoke about in a previous post. However, they vary in intelligence as real people do.

>Personalities like real people?

As personalities go, they start off as simple or complex as you make them. However, as time goes on, they grow and evolve. If I were to make a mind doll who was very aggressive, and made another who was very friendly, I would either see the aggressive character soften, or the friendly character act unfriendly (although those are two very basic characters and interactions). Honestly, they feel as real as I do, in almost every way.

>Is it ok to create so many?

You can make as many mind dolls as you can care to interact with, and summon as many as you want at a time. Like with real people, there isn't a limit to how many you can get to know or get acquainted with.

Managing them might be tough if you have a lot, but I've found a way to "schedule" them, so that each one gets to hang out with me and each other. I have a total of 32, as of right now.

>Is it ok to call them yours?

Mind Dolls are very self aware. They know they only exist in your eyes, and don't really care. They know they are an extension of you and by helping or pleasing you they are benefiting themselves as well.

When I call mind dolls "mine" it's in amicable terms (like saying "my friend", "my family", "my girlfriend", etc). However, even in possessive terms, they wouldn't care. After all, as an extension of myself, they do "belong" to me. My arm wouldn't be offended that I call it mine, because it is. It is a part of me as they are a part of me.

Anyway, you can belong to something and be proud of it, so long as it isn't disgraceful. If you treat your mind dolls well they won't be ashamed to be yours.

Fuck, this thread dies quick, huh? Makes sense, since this didn't have to do with sissy shit.

So, to introduce another point of discussion, I'm going to speak about a little experiment I conducted, just a couple months into the program.

I've always been interested in shape shifting. When I discovered hypnosis I tried searching for a file to help me achieve this. To make myself appear like whatever I wanted, at least to myself. I find one measly file but I had my doubts, not to mention I was a hypno noob and short files like that would never work on me. Quickly after that, I discovered art of the mind doll and dedicated myself to that. Then I decided to use art of the mind doll for this shape shifting experiment rather than that sketchy file. Oh, and this is before I listened to dereth, right after getting to 100% clarity in enchanted forest. That's why I could turn into different races and monsters when I listened to it.

I had already made my first few mind dolls, so I wasn't a stranger to making them. I went about it like this: "instead of listening to strange files, I'll use this one I'm already proficient in to achieve the same effect". So I made a "mind doll" (although it wasn't, really) that could turn into whatever it wanted, but was essentially an empty suit with no thought anyone who used could use it's power. A new "body" for me to merge with.

So it works out, and I test it's shape shifting abilities by climbing inside. I gave it a shape shifting effect similar to the one in PROTOTYPE because I'm a fucking nerd. I also made it so I could feel everything it feels, and I could change the sensitivity of whatever part I wanted so fingertips are more sensitive to touch than claws or whatever. Not to mention, that in any virtual world I would have the ability of any part (eg: flying with wings, breathing water with gills, etc).

Bringing that suit-mind-doll thing (I still have trouble calssifying it) into the real world was more difficult than I thought. After all, how could I bring an infinitely changeable thing, that I control, that has its own rules apart from the rest of my mind dolls, over to the real world, and still have it act the same as in the virtual world? Well, I figured out how just before listening to dereth.

I simply had to bind it to myself. No longer was this just a suit I could take off, but me. I made myself part mind doll. However, I also gave it another ability. To be invisible to me by default. So now it works like this: normally when I look in the mirror, I see my normal self (so seeexy). However, when I think of changing into something, a list pops up in my head. Like on a computer, I can choose which form I'd like to turn into, create a new form and save it for later, or redefine it's properties/edit things about it. Then I do my badass shape shifting transformation PROTOTYPE style and there I am. And ofc I can turn it off and change back to my regular self.

So this might be another file I make for the public that branches off aotmd in the future.

>>27912

>Fuck, this thread dies quick, huh? Makes sense, since this didn't have to do with sissy shit.

I don't think that's the reason. This isn't a criticism, but what you're posting about is so abstract I'm not sure if it's role-playing or schizophrenia. It's interesting regardless.

>>27925

I actually agree with you, but aside from "I put a twist on this thing that's already fucking ridiculous" there's nothing I could think to post that's interesting or that would incite inquiry or discussion, which is the point of this thread.

I could post hundreds of interactions between me and my mind dolls, but that would be too personal for me, and really pointless to other people, not to mention just vas abstract as the other stuff, since it's all happening in my mind alone.

Anyways, I'm aware this thread has pretty much turned into me telling stories of what I have done with the program, in hopes of getting discussions and questions, to which I will reply. So yeah, I'm pretty much the Q and the A in this Q&A thread.

But I think of it like this: if someone comes on hypnochan, they pretty much have two options. Wade through the countless sub threads, or stumble on a different thread (of which there aren't many, and of which I am contributing to, although in a surrealist fashion). It's better my shitstorm of a thread get to casuals before another domme file request thread.

Also, if someone would like to do what I'm doing, they could search Art of the Mind Doll and there they have it. Or they could directly ask me a question, which is why I made this.

Of course, I'd let it die if nobody cared to respond, but I'm still occasionally getting people. Thing is, I'm interested in telling my fucked up mind shit to anyone who is willing to listen, so I'm getting something it out of as well.

>>27936

As someone knew to this, seeing anything posted is pretty interesting tbh

>I could post hundreds of interactions between me and my mind dolls

ooooh post them post them

>>27944

Thanks a bunch! At least now I know my ramblings of the mysterious portal that is my mind don't fall on empty ears.

>>27948

Now, I would post some of my interactions with my mind dolls, but again, they'd be pretty strange to bring up a-la-random, since… Well… this is an erotic hypnosis program. I'm not naturally open about sexuality either, so if someone wants a specific experience they'd probably have to ask me for one.

But yes I probably have hundreds of tales to tell about my mind dolls and their antics, since I've been spending every day with them for almost a year. And not bullshit drama that happens in irl squads, this shit gets metaphysical, fantastical, and sometimes downright FREAKY. Especially if I take them to a specific virtual world with me.

>>27964

How do your mind dolls affect your interactions with other people? Do they help you out? Hinder you in any way? Any stories that come to mind?

>>27964

make a blog or something! please!! it sounds really interesting but i have no idea what specific thing i would want to ask.

>>27978

I couldn't count the times they've saved me from an awkward situation. They really do help when meeting new people, helping others in a situation where they need advice or comfort, or providing topics of conversation. At least, the smarter ones do. Of course, I like to challenge myself so a couple of my mind dolls are pretty distracting in those moments. But I know when to summon them and when not to.

One example of a mind doll helping me out was when my friend found out her father died in a crash (she couldn't even see him for weeks because he was on vacation). I was never put in a situation where a person needed that kind of help from me so I didn't know how to console her, and I'm kind of a downer so I wouldn't have helped at all if I didn't receive help from Kathy (my mind doll, obviously). She's really positive and social, so I'm lucky I had her summoned.

She basically coached me into making my friend feel secure, that I was a shoulder for her to lean on, that she had nothing to do with the accident and no one is to blame, and that the memories she had of him, even the negative ones, immortalize him. At the end of the day she was still sad; she really loved her father and those kinds of losses take time to heal, but it wasn't a bitter sadness or depression which is what was important. She recovered after about a week and thanked me and a couple other people for sympathizing with her.

Of course, deep down it was me who really helped her; and I did really feel bad for her/mean everything I said and did, but I would have just frozen and not verbalized what I would've wanted to say without Kathy. She took those feelings and experience from deep down and helped me surface them without staying silent for too long while searching for what to say, or worse, saying things that would make her sadder.

But for the most part, mind dolls have only ever helped me when around other people.

The few that are meant to entertain/distract me and disregard others do serve a purpose, but mainly in corporate or other boring environments.

>>27987

Idk if I'd be able to maintain a blog. I'm not that good a regular poster. If initiated by someone else, in a q&a, discussion, or otherwise interactive format like it is here, I can write quite a bit. However, when left to myself, I usually abandon any projects that require a lot of maintenance, like blogging.

Maybe I'll try it out if a platform would allow for this type of interaction and enough people care to know what a mentally questionable individual has to contribute to the internet.

>>26622

3-5 months is a lot of time invested to be honest.

I would experiment with the files but I simply dont see /believe in it, harpers files though are pretty good.

>>27995

Hmm reading through your posts nakadashi-kun you do seem mentally questionable hahaha. Hey do you have a platform like steam or something, that you freuquent regularly ? If I get stuck on the way or something I guess I want to ask you if thats alright.

>>27999

Nice trips.

I agree Harper has several amazing files, but by far this is my favorite. I encourage you to experiment with it as much as possible, so long as you go through with it. I believed in the file from the start and really wanted what was being offered, that's why I persevered despite it taking a good while to finish (I read plenty of testimonials on several sites including harper's own, tulpa discussion threads confirming this was a way to summon tulpa [which was what I was really after all along] and that it was better in most regards to traditional methods). I really wanted to experience all that I had imagined and heard this program could do. I took a while with the program, since I didn't have a real hypnotist or even someone who finished it to show me how to get a hang of things (as I've said before, I wasn't really good at hypnosis and really needed physical sessions). The beginning half all the way to the keyword installment was the most difficult part and the part that I'd recommend any hypno noob to skip by going to a 'tist. But if you're good at hypnosis, 3 months should be more than enough time to finish the program start to finish.

>>28000

Oh yeah, if a psychologist knew what was going on in my noggin he'd put me down as a schizo or something lol. I know I've basically given myself several "mental disorders" (on purpose and as a result of me pushing the boundaries of the program, not the program's fault) but who doesn't have them? At least mine are more like a super power than a handicap.

Oh and I do have a steam but I rarely go on it (I do most of my gaming off steam bc it updates every time I fucking exhale). If anything I go on this board pretty often. I've taken a liking to it. Anyway, if you have questions, just post them and I'll answer to the best of my ability.

Hi there i just get my hand on this program and have read multiple timethe pdf guide and made some note out of it.

problem is i don't know how to start are the files include with them suppose to be use or just example and you need to record your own ??

if they can be use for the program in what order ?? cause there is the isochronic to no isochronic induction switch . I'm really confuse and would love help so i don't fuck anything.

>>28025

Most people who start off have these same questions, including me when I started out. So here are my answers:

>Are the files included just examples? Do I have to make my own?

No and no. The world files included can be used, the pdf is simply showing you a way to make your own world files if you want to. I want to get into that as well but I don't have the time or equipment as of now. If you are talking about something else, the answer still stands. I've never had to record anything for myself nor download another person's file (of which there are none, to my knowledge) to achieve the desired effect.

>Is iso and no iso any different? What order for the files?

No, but the iso files are definitely superior to the non iso files. Switching between them is usually pointless in my experience. Non iso is for people who go deep as fuck every time they listen to the file, so much so that they aren't responding to it. Usually people who experience this are being hypnostized by someone else. But that shouldn't be an issue if you are doing self hypnosis (self hypnosis over files is less potent than live hypnosis).

Super Serum subliminal should be listened to every day, for at least thirty days. At the same time as that you can listen to the UD file. The ones he gives you all work the same so choose whichever you like. I find that my favorite are UD Sillhouette of Dawn and UD Female Version.

Once you start blacking out consistently drop the UD file and listen to the Keyword file. Iso or non iso doesn't matter unless you are going too deep. Even then it doesn't matter too much.

After the keyword has taken effect, listen to the world files. The ones to avoid until you are proficient (in my opinion) are UD-The Crystal and Dereth. Dereth can be listened to right away if you are having trouble with the keyword file and can't trance when saying the keyword but can when listening to the file itself, since the script is identical until the end.

Once you reach ~100% realism inside the virtual world, you create your mind dolls when inside of it little by little until they are ~100% realistic and bridge them over to the real world by imagining them irl and/or listening to schumann manifest through touch.

Computer Console and Warehouse are just there to help you if you are having trouble, although Computer Console is a hypno file in and of itself since you can use it to change any part of your body (such as growth, fat consumption, etc).

Don't worry, you should be fine no matter what you choose.

So don't be confuse; you'll never fuck anything so long as you don't initiate it and you stay away from dark alleyways (sorry, I had to lol).

Good Luck!

How does sex feel like with your minddolls? Is it realistic? Did you ever cum from it(as in ejaculation/spasms)?are your minddolls submissive or dominant? Could you tell us about your first time?

>>28034

thanks a lot for the detailled answer i feel even more confident and whillind to do it now will post from time to time with my progress

>>28040

Asking the real questions, what would happen if you took substances and summoned your mind doll ?

Doing a little bit of research on tulpas… I'm kind of skeptical about whether it does work or not. If tulpas are real, and harpers program is a way to manifest them how come more research isnt done to back up the claims. According to my own research, the brainwaves of someone talking to tulpa should be different of that of a regular person…. how come these things aren't measured or documented in harpers programs ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYO_WC7TE4c

If you are a tulpamancer, these headbands aren't very expensive around 200-300 dollars you should record what is happening during your interactions

>>28062

Have you tried any hypno on LSD? I have. It's a blast. It has a very song effect, and the hypnosis becomes your world. Now, imagine that feeling, except you're already at that level. It is beyond high. It's cosmic. Shapes warping around you, pieces of the virtual worlds here and there, as if they were a broken glass pane, your mind dolls all appearing at once, giving you a pleasure unknown. I even traveled through my favorite dreams, except with the realism offered by the program and the ability to summon mind dolls, or hell, anything you could think of. It's almost insane how long it felt too. I could have sworn I spent a full day or more in crazyland, but it was only a couple hours. Anyway, it was awesome, I'd do it again (if it weren't so expensive, and damaging, and addicting).

>>28066

A criminally low amount of research is done on hypnosis in general, which is more well known than tulpamancy by a landslide, not to mention this program specifically. I don't know if talking to or interacting with a tulpa would show up on the muse. Tulpamancers do say they can feel their tulpa in different parts of their mind, so perhaps they might, but I've never felt anything similar to that so idk if it would even register as anything other than regular brain activity. This program offers beings slightly different (superior, imo) to tulpa in several ways:

You can summon and unsummon mind dolls willy nilly, you can't unsummon a traditional tulpa without killing it.

Your subconscious makes the mind dolls, so they don't take up cognitive function or affect your conscious mind like tulpa do.

You can fuck your mind dolls, and can't fuck your tulpa (big issue for me, if tulpa are supposed to be a lifetime partner [that can watch you jerk off and fuck other people, but can't participate for some reason] you are making)

You can hide information from mind dolls, but tulpa automatically know everything you do and think so that can be pretty creepy

You can do everything a tulpamancer can do with mind dolls (recalling totally lost memories, having them take over your mind pseudo-posession style, telepathically communicating)

Oh, and a ton of them are mlp fans and furries. The type that dress up and only watch porn of that genre. So it might be a bit of a toxic community of you aren't into that.

Muse looks really cool though, I'll look into it. Idk if I'd be willing to pay that amount right now, though. I'm a collegeboi after all. Gotta give my hard earned cash to the rich and corrupt (and my car). But if I get one I'll do research on myself any perhaps some neurologists could interpret that information so the layman could understand.

>>28034

>No, but the iso files are definitely superior to the non iso files. Switching between them is usually pointless in my experience. Non iso is for people who go deep as fuck every time they listen to the file, so much so that they aren't responding to it. Usually people who experience this are being hypnostized by someone else. But that shouldn't be an issue if you are doing self hypnosis (self hypnosis over files is less potent than live hypnosis).

>>28034

> showing you a way to make your own world files if you want to. I want to get into that as well but I don't have the time or equipment as of now

im interested in making any type of files tbh. I'm starting the mind doll stuff too but I haven't gotten to the worlds yet. If you have any like ideas or if you could tell me the general layout or whatever i could try to make one though. I'm really pathetic and a neet so i have lots of time. I'll read the pdf too.

>>28106

shit i dint realize that first part was still there.

sorry

>>28106

Sure thing, and thanks for trying to make files as well. If you could, please post any you make on here, it would be greatly appreciated.

The world files basically consist of a short induction, which involves saying the trigger (blue snowflake) and counting to ten, deepening with each number and bringing the listener closer to the virtual world. Don't forget adding low theta isochronics and soft, calming music in the background throughout the whole file. Say something along the lines of "any unclear or vague information I say will be filled in by your subconscious", as well as any other rules you want the listener's subconscious to integrate into the file. Then you could count to ten again, deepening more and leading into the actual virtual world at the end of the countdown.

After the induction, describe what the listener sees, hears, etc. Do this along the course of the file so the listener is aware of the world's atmosphere, but you don't need to be too specific since the subconscious will be filling in any blanks. If you want you could add rules to the world itself (example would be saying the gravity is less or everyone you meet is a giant) or describe the setting (example: "the world has a futuristic tone but is overrun by plant life covering all major cities" or "you are in 1960s Japan, which is still recovering from the destruction which sent everyone into panic"). Make the file as long as you feel is necessary, and add time to the end so the listener can enjoy the world, ending your reading of the script with how long the listener should remain in the world after you finish talking (5-60 mins, typically, although you could do more).

At the very end add an awakener which just consists of counting again, bringing the listener out of trance, and explaining how refreshed they are. If you want you could put a condition before the awakener explaining the listener can stay in trance if they desire, those are always nice.

The pdf is very enlightening in the creation process, and probably had a ton of info I left out. Also, if you listen to any world file (enchanted forest 3.0 and the wizard are good for an example of how to make a world file), you can take note of the very intentional pausing and diction Talmadge uses to bring people really deep. It's something I can't explain here and seems like an important part of the hypnotic process.

You can also write down Talmadge's induction and awakening scripts word for word, since they aren't the things you need to change.

Good luck with your file making!

anyone know where i can get these files?

>>28117

sure add me on giga i have it upload but to have acces to this specific program you will need to share 1 files with me on your own mega even a free one don't care it's to limit bot and leech account.

link to my profile https://giga.gg/u/Kitstune2

>>28117

or instead of using giga you can just get the torrent from pornbay and also in the other mind doll thread someone posted a mega link that has all of it

>>28137

>>28120

>>28117

Here, I'll save you and any other new users the trouble of having to go on pornbay or search for the link through 200+ replies on the other aotmd thread.

https://mega.nz/#F!daB2laZI!Gy_KvW6Ur_hy8zsCrDyatQ

The one on pornbay does contain a lot of his other files, but I honestly forgot which ones they were and to avoid a 5gb+ file this will be the only one I upload. Have fun, and good luck with this program!

Does anyone know the order of the tracks?

>>28073

With regards to mind doll creation process, you do that on the world and then when everything is finalized, you materialize it? Or it's ok to just write it down on paper first before materializing it?

How do you do it? And have you experienced multiple mind dolls in one session doing stuff to you?

There's this computer console, can you adjust different setting there? (like, increase photographic memory ability by 50%)

>>28151

read the pdf there's pretty good instructions in there

>>28153

Yes, once you attain more or less 100% realism with any world file, you can bridge anything from that virtual world to the real world by merging both and imagining that thing from the virtual world in real life, transferring it over. That includes any mind dolls you create. The file "manifest through touch" helps make your mind doll more real in the creation process, your virtual world and then in real life without you having to do anything. It basically lets your mind doll grow herself and make herself more realistic, which is super helpful. I highly recommend it.

It's just easier to make the mind doll in the virtual world. At some point you will be able to make them irl without it, though.

The reason Harper included specific characters in his files (Carmen, Morrigan, etc) is so it's easy for anyone who doesn't know what to create or is having trouble creating a mind doll to simply transfer them over.

I don't know exactly what you mean by writing it down on paper, but the way to materialize mind dolls is entirely mental. If it helps you to write or draw I guess it could be of use, but as far as bringing them to real life it isn't necessary.

You can summon as many mind dolls as you want at a time, and they can all interact with you. So go ahead, have as many orgies as you want. I can't say I don't enjoy them here and there.

The computer console (which is actually extremely versatile and underrated) can be used to change almost anything about you, since it's essentially a root to your brain, the control center of your body. If you want, you can make your brain release a certain hormone or pheromone more than usual, or have it prioritize burning fat over muscle. Increasing memory is also possible, as well as making a certain memory super clear and easier to remember. Of course, you can use it for hypnosis as well. It's honestly super helpful.

I haven't used warehouse at all, though, since it's mainly for naturally stubborn or incredulous people who doubt the hypnosis is working.

Anyway, like >>28166 mentioned, the pdf is also very helpful when it comes to the steps required. Anything that it leaves out I will be sure to fill in, however.

>>28186

oh, another question! Would you say it's good or bad to listen to multiple files per day / at once? Like, if I have the time should I listen to 7 hours of mind doll?

>>28188

Hey man, do as you please. It's not like you have to do this, obviously, but if you feel like you will respond more to it, why not. One thing is, don't listen to the same file on repeat too many times. That will condition your subconscious to treat it as a simple annoyance rather than a suggestion.

Instead, set up a playlist of the Ultra Depth, super serum subliminal (actually, you can listen to this one file for as long as you want, since subliminal files are meant to be put on repeat several times and you can even do menial tracks while listening), trigger file, and a couple of world files, if you want to listen for a long time.

I never had 7 hours to listen to files, so idk how exactly to go about that, but I did put the subliminal on repeat a couple of nights.

Can someone give a link to it?

>>28220

It was posted already, not too long ago. Here you go.

https://mega.nz/#F!daB2laZI!Gy_KvW6Ur_hy8zsCrDyatQ>>28220

Nakadashi-kun,

Can you create a female mind doll that has the ability to shapeshift in realtime?

Requirements would be an image you are looking or have seen (picture, memory) of a female you want her to copy on your command (there need to be a rule that you should give permission first before she copies someone), including voice, but of course retaining her attitude (and default qualities). Copy only limited to the physical attributes, voice, and real women (is it possible to create a real physical equivalent of an anime/manga character?).

As you have mentioned, as they grow, their sophistication also increases, so better to focus on a few I guess?

Lastly, can you delete an already created mind doll? As in, no matter how much you imagine it in real life, it will not appear anymore?

With the file that your meant to have blackouts, why does it seem like I'm falling asleep, but then I wake up when a song plays (I have the file and a song in the playlist) but I don't wake up during the file. I have been using the female version

>>28229

Thanks,and indeed i have it.

I just didn't see the pdf file when i downloaded it

Am I the only one who need a password for the pdf ?

>>28244

and if you still can't get it to work here's a pdf without the pw

http://ovh.to/JCnxEzj

>>28236

Yes, it's entirely possible to create a shape shifting mind doll. However, you would need to put those rules you mentioned in yourself, when creating them. By default they would shape shift whenever they want to. Of course if you ask them to they could change as well.

I have three main examples of shape shifters in my group. One of them is linked to me (I made a post about this a while ago, but essentially I made a pseudo mind doll that overlaps my body and has the ability to shape shift, granting me that same ability). The second and third are "siblings", a slime girl and a blob (I don't have sex with the second one, he's more of a pet that lives in my pockets). I gave them both free will to shape shift into whatever they want, but the slime girl also changes into whatever I'm thinking I want her to. She still keeps her personality (ironically her personality is being very unoriginal and liking to copy others' style) when she changes, too.

I've made a couple anime/manga and video game characters into mind dolls (remember, I'm a nerd), and surprisingly it works. Take it from me, however. Make the mind doll about as simple as they are in their original work. For example, don't go too 3d on an originally 2d character. There's a sweet spot you should aim for, and you'll know when you're there. Some characters go into real life gracefully, however you shouldn't be aiming for realism or it will hardly ever work. Make them stand out from their surroundings, you'll see i they actually fit in better that way. It's pretty surreal watching a semi unreal character roam around in real life.

Oh, and by default your mind dolls will grow more realistic by themselves, so you'll have to actually tell them to stop getting more realistic once they reach the sweet spot I referenced.

Anyway, the way mind dolls grow physically is by becoming more realistic. This happens subconsciously, as I stated above, requiring no effort on your part. However, they also grow as people, and this is the part that requires one on one interaction. You could create as many as you want at one time, and they'll all grow at the same rate, whether you summon them or not. However, after a while, the ones you benched will be as deep as their given personalities allow them to be while the ones you hung out with will branch out; becoming more like real people. Therefore, you should create as many as you want at one time, and cycle through them all, giving each batch enough opportunity to grow. At least that's how I did it.

As far as deleting them goes, I guess you can, but I'd say it would be best if you just stopped summoning them. They don't take any "space" in your head, so they aren't limiting the amount of mind dolls you could make. It's also pretty hard to let go of a mind doll once you make them. You love them (for the most part, unless you end up making one that you hate on purpose). Remember, they're like your real friends. You don't ever wish they died just because you got sick of them, you just stop hanging out with them.

>>28237

Yeah, there isn't much of a difference between awakening after blacking out and feeling like you've slept. What's happening is that during a blackout, you are still actively listening, but fall into a state where your conscious mind isn't active or forgets it was active, just like sleep. All that's responsive is your subconscious, which is what you want anyway. You might not awaken when the tist says to either (sometimes it takes a while for the conscious mind to react), but that's fine. As long as you are waking up not too long into the next file (if you wake up like 6 songs after the file ended you just fell asleep). Sometimes people do fall asleep, but this is almost never the case. Hope that answered your question.

>>Nakadashi-kun the wizard

The thing is that I just started listening to these files, I thought that was rather quick for blackouts to occur (I have used many hypnosis files before too) and yes I wake up in the first minute of the next song. Do you recommend me moving on or wait until the file wakes me instead of the song?

>>28250

If you are already blacking out, which it seems you are (if you're a hypnosis vet, it doesn't surprise me that you can advance this quickly), go ahead and move on to the keyword phase.

Worse case scenario, the keyword doesn't work, and you'll have to revisit the Ultra Depth files. But you should be fine, you've probably dealt with keywords before.

Good luck, I hope you can meet your goal quickly.

>>28252

Firstly, thanks for being such great help to me (sorry if i'm getting annoying)

But the keyword files is the ones that confuse me when I read the pdf. Could you clear this up for me?

1. It says that you need to find the trigger word in the script? I've looked for it and cannot find it.

2. When would I use the trigger word

3. What file do I use out of the files in the keyword folder.

4. I start writing in my journal now right?

Thanks!

>>28253

No problem at all, you're good bro.

1. Yeah, in the keyword file, he says the keyword toward the last 10 mins (Blue Snowflake). The file may not even seem hypnotic, but it is.

2. You actually barely use it, but he uses it. In the world files he says Blue Snowflake to take you under, after a short induction.

3. NLP Blue Snowflake with music was the one I always preferred, but you can listen to whatever you want, they all do the same thing.

4. Yes. Actually you should have started the journal the day you started the program, but better late than never. It helps in tracking where you are with the program and telling your subconscious it is important that it cooperates.

Did you tell anyone about your mind dolls in real life ?

How did they react ?

>>28290

Yeah, I told my friends when I discovered/started the program. They were actually very interested in it, surprisingly. I thought they would roast the hell of me after I told them, like they do with most things, but for some reason telling them that I pretty much induced disassociate identity disorder on myself got them intrigued with what hypnosis can do. I haven't told them what you can do with the mind dolls, but I'm pretty sure they got the idea. After all, they are aware of this forum and that I frequent it.

Have you gotten anyone else involved with this program or do you know anyone else who has made as much progress on the program as you? Besides people on here that is.

Anyways thank you for making a thread for this, I'm glad that I discovered the program and have been listening to the Super Sub and the Ultra depth file for almost two weeks and I can feel progress when it comes to relaxation deepness but I'm still totally aware of things which while I don't think is a bad thing, my mind seems to try and take me out of trance.

Been "listening" to Hypnosis for about 6 years now but besides increased relaxation I have not been able to get good "progress" from hypnosis, any tips for this?

>>28295

I don't know anyone personally that has started this program, although some of my friends are interested in it. Hopefully they'll ask me about it some day, but i don't want to force them into it.

Thank you for the appreciation! Keep listening to those files as regularly as possible. I have a lot of experience with a stubborn subconscious that keeps taking me out of trance. Eventually it will subside, but I acknowledge it can be a pain in the beginning. Hopefully the super subliminal will help you with that, but if not please elaborate on what's bringing you out of trance and I'll try to help you out.

Hypnosis is a tough one, since it relies on personal thoughts and experiences. The typical rule for hypnosis is "go along with it, obey the hypnotist, and you will feel something soon", but sometimes it's tougher than it seems. I can't say for certain what you need to do but go with the flow and believe in your tist, without more elaborate descriptions of how you listen. However, I wish you good luck with hypnosis in general.

Thank you for the tips! I'll get back to you in a couple days and I'll have a better answer for what my troubles are exactly.

Will say thought that last night was the deepest or at the very least the most relaxed I got so I'm making progress I just have a loud and random mind lol.

I do have a minor learning disability which might be part of my troubles but I can't confirm.

Have you experienced objects with your mind dolls? Like what if the mind doll pegged you? How would that even work?

>>28317

No problem, bro! I'll make sure to keep an eye on this board for your response.

Hopefully, you'll keep going deeper and make good progress. It would be great if you could finish ASAP.

Any learning disability shouldn't impede hypnotic ability. Cognitive function isn't very active during hypnosis anyway, so as long as you can understand speech and obey commands you can be hypnotized.

>>28318

*sigh* I knew I had to bring out my freaky side eventually (at least I'm pretty sure all who dwell on this board have one), but I do have a small bit of experience being on the… receiving end of things. See, I stumbled upon futanari very young, and it has since been a big fetish of mine. Not because "oh finally women can have a penus and vagoo, now I don't have to be a faggot" like some think, but rather because I can witness penetration without any males to ruin my hard on, and have a pussy on the futa for me to fuck.

So of course I try it with -low and behold- my first mind doll (yes, Millianna, whom I have described earlier, is a futa), having in mind that she won't ever penetrate me, just penetrate other mind dolls. Eventually I let my guard down, however, and when she begged to peg me for what must have been the fiftieth time, I obliged…

To answer your question, however, it feels as real as a person who has never been pegged irl could imagine it does, and perhaps more so. It didn't cause pain, as well, so at least I didn't have to suffer.

Anyway, for other inanimate objects, such as a ball or something, they feel as real as real gets. Even complicated machinery works (I've summoned a shotgun before because what the hell).

But as for how this shit works? I have no fucking clue about the logistics behind all this, my subconscious is in charge of remembering how things work irl and making tactile hallucinations that fit the rules and sensations I have witnessed irl. So i guess that's the closest thing to an explanation as I could get.

Question for the wizards/ experienced users

I've used this audio to black out before

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teGbb7fF8qc

However I cant seem to produce the same results again, last time I blacked out I felt sweaty and really groggy /fatgiued.

Is this the same state I'm supposed to be in whlist listening to the first audio ? I wasn't awake during the blackout and it happened a couple of times but I have no idea how to be awake during it or how to even tell myself to be awake.

>>28360

The isochronic Talmadge puts in the bg of his files I'd some form of theta I believe, although he doesn't go into which Hertz. Idk if the video you provided pertains to this program in it's desired effect or even compares to the one this program puts you in. I just know that ultra depth, the method Talmadge uses and Walter Sichort discovered, goes beyond the typical alpha-delta stuff, and hardly mentions it. I did a fair bit of research as to why he uses ultra depth and why other hypnotists typically don't. And that's because ultra depth is a path to a different state, called the Sichort state, which is several levels deeper than typical hypnosis (perhaps overkill, as you don't need to go this deep for conventional hypnosis; this is just a really complex program that requires a level this deep). This state is very similar to sleep, as you even produce REM and go into amnesia, not remembering what was said to you during the session (making it much more powerful that regular hypnosis, as you can say anything without the conscious mind registering it).

So basically, you don't need to listen to anything else other than this program for it to work and I don't think the trance you get from this is the same as with other hypnosis so it might have a very different effect as the one you experienced. It might or might not, but there's so little research on hypnosis we honestly can't tell without professional equipment and a neurologist.

As for this video and regular hypnosis, I tried doing as much research on the amount of Hertz it produces and what it does. This is a theta based isochronic, but it might be closer to alpha. Even with the amount of research I did prior to posting this I didn't really get much info (as there isn't much out there to begin with, as I mentioned earlier).

Anyway, don't get too caught up in how it feels vs what it's supposed to feel like once you start the file, it's annoying but thinking about it too much fucks with your progress… I really hated that shit when I started lol.

Hey, Nakadashi, could you add me? I'd love to talk to you and ive been doing this program every day for a month now. Add me on discord, my discord is Atticus#3871

>>28392

Yeah man, no problem. I added you, btw. Just in case you read this before that.

I've been trying to make a tulpa using the traditional forcing methods for quite a long time and I haven't had much progress.

I just found out about this Mind Doll stuff and it seems interesting, I'd like to give it a try but there's something that kind of worries me a bit.

I want my tulpa to be a companion, not a sex toy and, as far as I know, this method seems to be very focused on the sex aspect… my question is: can I make a "normal", non-lewd tulpa using this method or is it going to inevitably turn into a semon demon?

>>28417

Happy you stumbled upon this!

While the program is commonly used to make sexual companions, they are first companions, with sex as an option (or DLC. Expansion pack? Idk). They will not ask for sex if you don't want it, they will not force anything upon you, and they can certainly be made for non sexual purposes. I have several companions that I've never touched sexually and never will, so I can tell you that you don't lose anything non sexual by having them purely as companions.

They are essentially and fundamentally the same as tulpa, with a few added benefits and tweaks (eg sex, summoning, and virtual worlds). So you can come to expect the same out of this program as you can tulpamancy. Not to mention since this is hypnosis you can change the program entirely, solely with more hypnosis. Although you might need to make your own files lol.

Hopefully you can start this program as well!

okay faggot, you piqued my interest and made a happy lurker into a posting cunt.

how do i make a tulpa that gives me plurality over my own mind, like a cloned version of myself but in tulpa form, basically creating a more powerful version of myself because i'll have access to my own subconscious?

>>28454

actually fuck it.

some other anon dropped their discord name.

i want tips on how to get started and how to make sure it all goes smoothly and quickly maybe afterwards i can play to my own narcissism

talk to me Gubbels#7558

Since it seems that people is interested in talking about this on discord, maybe we could make a server? I don't want to give my username here but I'd join the server.

I just created a server.

Here's the invite link

https://discord.gg/Q3cpBnr

It's pretty simple right now, it only has three channels: general, help and files. We can add more if we see fit.

>>28457

this seems like a good idea, this way anyone trying to force tulpas can ask for advice and recieve it faster than an imageboard may lend to.

with nitro file sharing becomes easier as well.

>>28458

this anon works fast. i like him.

>>28108

or on the discord that we now have.

discord can host files up to 8mb without nitro and 50mb with, it's also a better environment if you're seeking assistance.

>>28479

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>>28392

This Discord is actually really awesome, I'm taking a big liking to it. If we can get a couple new people to start this program, it's serving a great purpose. I believe we have, as well. And if we could make more files for each other that would be amazing too! I have several ideas for scripts, but no money to buy a decent mic. I can talk smoothly, but time and money there is little to nothing of.

what if english isn't my main language and I don't completely understand what the files are saying?

>>28502

You have to understand what the hypnotist is saying for their words to take effect. It should be simple enough to follow, there isn't very much complicated language other than terminology, but in any case a quick Google search could show you what it means, if it matters that you know.

>>28506

When you respawn your mind doll in the real world, they feel real? As in you can physically feel and touch them? They behave like a real person with their own attitudes/behaviors? Does the virtual world feel like the real world?>>28506

>>28518

Yup, everything is indistinguishable from reality with this program, the mind dolls feel real to the touch and behave like real humans. They feel emotions, reason, make assumptions, etc. Everything that makes life intelligent.

The world files are also on that level of realism, so you feel like it's real life, no matter how crazy they can get.

So in designing a mind doll it is really essential to give them default behavior traits like: being too horny, nympho, loving, loyal and submissive. Too much drama will get you nowhere like what real girls are doing.

>>28532

Phrasing was a little weird with that post, could you repeat the question?

What I got from your post:

>So in designing a mind doll it is really essential to give them default behavior traits

Your mind doll can have whatever personality you want, and they branch out and develop their traits based on their points of personality (in this way, even the most basic bitch Mary Sues can have a chance to become someone interesting, with a unique personality).

This can affect their behavior, so depending on whether your mind doll is shy, for example, that might eventually affect how submissive she is (you have some control in the direction they branch out, and can even stop them from branching out, by the way). Or if your mind doll is emotionally cold that might affect how they demonstrate love.

Mind dolls are very, very customizable, so there is virtually nothing restricting you from creating whatever you want however you want. Of course, there is one rule, and that is that they won't hurt you (if they do it is because you are mentally unstable and have pushed them and yourself way too far).

Sorry if this isn't what you had in mind with that question, if you want to, please post a clarification of your original post and I will respond with more clarity as well.

>>28557

For me the question of >>28532 is …

Do you need to make them have default behavior to be able to distingue them from reality

>>28571

Oh, okay. Sorry for that.

The "default" behavior traits you mentioned would make the mind dolls seem more realistic, not distinguish then from reality. Anyway, their behavior doesn't really affect how real they seem, they will always appear real to you. And if you somehow give them a completely unrealistic trait and it gets in the way of how realistic they seem to you, it will fix itself. However, you will never be so confused as to think your mind dolls are actually real. First off all, they will tell you that other people can't see them. Second, you will notice the behavior of other people towards them. Third, they can't really affect the environment around you too much unless you are in a virtual world.

Hope that clarifies things further.

Hi.

So, going into the virtual worlds with the files is like hypnosis induced lucid dreaming?

And since starting the program are your normal night dreams more vivid and lucid?

Thanks.

>>28682

Yes, very similar, but very different as well. A comparison can certainly be made, though.

I've noticed the tendency of my dreams to be more memorable, vivid, prolonged, and detailed. I also have somewhat frequent, fully lucid dreams. Also, they actually finish now. Before this, I could never finish the few dreams I could remember.

To be honest, I just want to play some High Level RPG at the ebd of the day. Or even try to design software with mind dolls.

I'm not a native english speaker but I have a very good grasp of the english language, I can hear everything and understand it unless the person has a real strong accent. Should I begin this program?

>>28688

Very nice, thanks.

Have you ever told one of your mind dolls during the day to appear in a dream as a sing to realize you are dreaming?

>>28691

Yes, Talmadge has a very clear voice and speaks slowly, so with the skills you have displayed by typing that post, you should be able to follow all right.

I sympathize with wanting an RPG or similar world, that was one reason I went into this program lol. I've been to all kinds of RPG based worlds, fought men, monsters, dragons, robots. You take it for granted when you play games, but seeing civilization after fighting and exploring for half an hour or more is really refreshing. Feels great when the common folk know your name. I've also noticed that since fighting in these worlds, my hand-eye coordination has sharpened further. Anyway, I hope you succeed in doing as you wish.

>>28696

No, I haven't, but I'll try it and see what happens. I know they can invade my lucid dreams, but I usually don't let them in my regular dreams. Thanks for the idea.

I have several questions. Can you pick what the mind doll will look like? Is it possible to make them look like pornstars, celebrities, women that we know, or even women that we have seen on the street even if we don't know them? And to what degree can we customize their appearance? For example, I really want a mind doll that looks like Kim Kardashian and I want to fuck one that looks like 9 months pregnant Kim Kardashian. Is that possible? You mentioned that they can access memories that are not clear to us, so does that mean that if you saw a really hot woman but don't remember exactly what she looks like as long as you have kind of an idea, the mind doll can make herself look like that? Also, I know this probably sounds stupid, but I guess when you're fucking the mind doll, missionary position is out of the question? Because otherwise you would just be shoving your dick into the mattress, right? So you can fuck the mind doll in any position but missionary? Also, is it possible to have the mind doll look like someone in particular when they were in their prime? For example, there are a couple of pornstars that I would love to have mind dolls look like, but in their prime, while they were still young and before they ruined themselves with excessive plastic surgery. Also, is it possible in the virtual worlds to basically be like Neo in The Matrix or like a superhero? For example being super strong or having the ability to fly or other super powers. Thanks for answering these questions, by the way. I've heard of mind dolls for a few years now but I had no idea how realistic they were.

Two questions, please.

1. Are you able to last longer fucking mind dolls than real girls? Like could you have a day long fuckfest with them or does your dick wear out the way it would with girls?

2. Can you take them out with you to school, work, Starbucks, whatever for company (obviously talking discretely so people don't think you're crazy)?

After you get this working for you (3-6 months?) how long does it take to make each mind doll? Is it just a few minutes once you know the method well or does it always take at least a few weeks?

>>27912

So would it be possible to give myself a massive 15 inch hentai level cock to fuck mind dolls with it, but still feel every inch of it as if it was my own cock?

Do mind dolls have orgasms and enjoy sex with you, or at least pretend to?

>>28186

>The computer console (which is actually extremely versatile and underrated) can be used to change almost anything about you, since it's essentially a root to your brain, the control center of your body. If you want, you can make your brain release a certain hormone or pheromone more than usual, or have it prioritize burning fat over muscle.

So you can use it to lose weight, learn a new skill, lose bad habits, etc?

>>28754

Yes, no, yes. Losing weight or building muscle and getting rid of bad habits is singing the program is great at. You can't learn new skills directly through the computer console, however, since learning something requires conscious effort and external resources to learn from. You can make the learning a lot faster, though. If the skill requires dexterity or reflexes you could even tell your brain to prioritize building more fast twitch muscle fibers or making itself faster in terms of reaction and observation. That can cut a lot of time into many tasks.

>>28749

Holy fuck that sounds awesome. So my mind doll can "get pregnant" with my baby, her belly will grow gradually and I can keep her pregnant as long as I want to get lots of preggo sex?

I downloaded your mega file. Do I start listening to folder 1, then folder 2, etc?

This sounds so fucking awesome. If I can get all the sex and companionship that I need from mind dolls, I can be more selective with real women and not put up with bullshit for fear of losing pussy.

Thank you so much for sharing your experiences with this program. I fell more confident to try it now.

I´d like to ask you something. You told that you only used the files that came with the program. And you told that is possible to change the personality of a mind doll, the way she looks, after the mind doll is done. Can you explain how you do it? I though you need to make a file with all the suggestions of how she will looks, and her personality, and so on. But this possibility to change her after she already exists (it´s a nice possibility) but let me somewhat confused. How do you do it?

I've been saying I'm going to start doing this for a while but I always come up with an excuse for not doing it.

Well today I decided to give it a shot. Since I'm good with meditation I skipped the Super Serum file and got right up to the UD file.

I reacted very well to it. Got very deep, in a way that I don't recall some parts from the file but never fell asleep. I didn't even finished it because I've got bitten by a mosquito and got out of trance only to wake up with a cricked neck.

Since I had no trouble going deeper, as I was expecting, I'm thinking about moving to the keyword file.

I'm aware that on this file there's is going to be placed an NLP anchor to recall Theta state. I already have one for this purpose but I think it's better not to skip this file at all and use my own trigger and jump to the Worlds files right away.

Thing is, to install my own trigger, it took me 9 sessions where I relaxed my way down to theta with no binaurals/iso tones and I did this in the same day.

How many times did you listened to the keyword file Nakadashi-kun?

I'm having problems with the black out, seems i can't really achieve it. What can i do? Suggestions?

>>28803

The black out is nothing more than a relaxed state where no thoughts are present.

Try to get into a comfortable position and just listen to the file, don't do anything else. The keystone for many people is that when you're told to visualize something within the file, don't do it consciously. Your subconscious will do it for you even if you think it's not doing it. This will become obvious as you progress.

All you have to do is listen and relax, the zoning out will happen eventually. So keep trying and try to not put yourself under too much pressure. Keep listening to the file but try not to think consciously. Some thoughts will pop up while you're listening, but instead of reasoning with them, just let them be. Let your mind wander. This will stop after 10/15 if you don't engage consciously.

To reinforce, this is not a skill at all. If you can fall asleep (like everybody else) like when you do every night, you can zone out. As a matter of fact you've been blacking out since you're born. Only difference here is that you're going to maintain your conscious alert.

You could also benefit from using the Super Serum file.

Just keep trying and you'll get there, without a shadow of a doubt.

I think you guys have the wrong idea about the blacking out. Watch the videos in the introduction folder. Blacking out isn't the goal. If you black out, it means you're too deep. It can be a useful indicator, i.e if you black out you know you're going beyond deep enough so you can then reel it back a bit and move on to the next stage. But blacking out isn't necessary.

>>28072

>Not only can you fuck whatever you want and have it feel 1 to 1 on terms of realism, but there's also other factors that come into play that spice things up.

Can you please elaborate on the other factors?

Also, I'm extremely excited about fucking a mind doll, but is that going to make the process more difficult for me, being too eager and impatient?

Thanks for answering questions for us!

I feel like the Keyword file is overkill. It's basically an induction that lasts for 50 minutes and anchor placement/reinforcement for 5 minutes. I've listened to this file 3 times so far, and I knew I was at the optimum state at least twice on every listen during the course of the file, but never when the trigger placement phase takes place. I also know that we can't quantify the "deepness" and that the trigger is not static, it takes you to a certain point quicker but the relaxation can always progress from there.

Even though I could probably get this sorted out I feel like it won't hurt to invest some more time with this file since the conditioning is also progressive. I have Blu3 Snowfl4ke voice by Sophia and the file is way shorter, but switching to a file that's not voiced by Talmadge can backfire time wise. I think I'll stick to it for now and start listening to Super Serum since it's a file a subliminal, this means I can loop on background while I'm doing something else,

What do you think Nakadashi-kun?

I have two questions that have been bugging me for a while now.

Is your experience with the mind doll limited by your awareness? For instance, you can interact with her either by being conscious (real world) or in a dream state (worlds). But can you get her, for instance, to wake you up at, let's say, 8AM while you're sleeping?

What about objects. Can she give you something like, a fully functioning wristwatch, for instance, that only you two can see/feel/whatever? If that's the case, how long will it last?

>>29060

I agree that the keyword's induction is exceedingly long, compared to the time it actually installs the anchor (although for NLP, which is the one I recommend, it's 30 minutes total, not an hour like the one you say), but that can be fixed with some amateur editing of you'd like. Just splice the keyword anchoring at the end of a UD file. There's another Sophia file that does this, but I've received mixed results. If you want I could link it.

Things that are outside of my mind (especially time, ironically) can't be measured precisely. My mind dolls can invade my dreams, sure, but it wouldn't be at 8:45 on the dot. A watch or clock would work (give or take a minute), because it has a set rhythm, and I could subconsciously keep track of that. However, if I just base it on what time it is or might be in the real world, I highly doubt it would work.

Complicated objects of any sort have been possible, so far. I've built computers (that control every aspect of the virtual worlds), consoles, robots, etc. Of course it's just based on head logic, since I'm no engineer or programmer, but each individual piece works, and together they perform tasks beautifully.

>>29118

I've been using the Schumann one. I like the background drone and I'm assuming that the iso tones are around the Schumann Frequency (7,83Hz) which is within Theta range. It's the frequency of planet Earth's ionosphere so I thought it would be the best choice since a lot of files done by people who know what they are doing use this specific frequency and I've had good experiences with this specific frequency before.

I also know that I might be trying to rush things up since I know what creative visualization is, and what seeing things with your mind's eye feel like. I remember when I first started to explore this stuff that when the images were fuzzy, I would try to focus on them with my eyes and when I did that, the images vanished. Took me a while to realize that the eyes aren't really seeing anything, the images are visualized by your mind instead.

I'll give the NLP version a shot since you mentioned it.

The computer stuff to interact with the worlds is genius stuff. I guess sky isn't the limit here, as long as we have imagination.

Thanks for replying, at this point I'm just listening to the files and investing a good chunk of my time in it because you've created this thread and shared all these experiences with all of us so I know that on the long run, this is all going to be worth it, even if it takes 6 months.

>>29123

Thank you, I'm glad you like my posts!

Like you said, everything that occurs in the virtual worlds has no limit. You are godly in the truest sense.

I also find true that use of the Schumann frequency is proof that Talmadge holds his salt as a hypnotist. It's essential for such a big change to occur in ones mind. NLP uses this frequency as well, iirc. Good luck using it.

>>29136

I think I'll switch to the NLP version for good. Took a listen and all was going well but I got bitten by a mosquito on my forehead around the 15 minute mark and got back into Beta state… SOAB is still alive and flying around my room and I can't get him.

Well… At least I know the file works wonders like the Schumann one and since it's only 30 minutes which is half of the duration of the file I was listening to, I can get the double amount of work for the same time. I was surprised about how good it worked since this file has no induction. It's just the isochronics and Talmadge describing what Theta is and how you can tap into it like you've been done since you're born.

Thanks for pointing this file out, I would probably keep insisting in the Schumann one and totally ignore this one.

>>29169

What the fuck is with all these mosquitoes? Goddamn lol.

No problem, man. Thanks for trying it out. I hope you can recover from that flying fuck attack, kek.

Well, I believe I'm now ready to move on and start with the Worlds stuff. I believe the trigger is placed and it's working, I shall listen to the keyword file one last time just to ensure everything is like it should but this time I got really deep. Despite having some external disturbances, like noise and stuff, I got really, really deep. Body stiff like a rock, heartbeat low as f**k and I felt some pressure on my forehead (superlobe activity). I didn't get any visual random images like I I sometimes use to have but I was at the optimum state when the trigger reinforcement phase occurred. That's for sure. And I feel like it's working.

Couple of question though.

A lot of times (well almost always now) I experience REM while listening to these files. And it doesn't take long for my eyes to start twitching like crazy. I can make them stop consciously but that usually prevents me from going deeper. Do any of you guys experience this as well?

My eyelids go crazy too, but this happens to me while meditating too. They are shut, but it's like, the shut down again for a second time. When this happens, I usually notice the muscles around my eyes contracting, just like when you close your eyelids with extreme force. Is it just me or is it a common thing? I have been wanting to ask these 2 questions for a long time (years now) but never managed to do it.

I hope im not being a bother, but what exactly is the super serum subliminal supposed to do?

>>29249

Hey, not at all. This started as a Q&A thread anyway.

The Super Serum file is designed to be used if you're either new to hypnosis or are experiencing some trouble going deeper into hypnosis with the files. In most cases it's your subconscious trying to resist getting into a deeper state. The Super Serum file is designed to tackle that and amplify the regular files' effect. Since it's a subliminal file, you can listen to it on loop and you don't need to get into trance. Just listening to it even without headphones will work.

For the "better safe than sorry" method, it's recommended that you listen to it for at least 30 days while you're listening to the other files. 30 days is just a guess, a gap of time that will ensure that it will definitely work.

Hope this helps.

So after the Ultra deep what should i do exactly?

The ultra depth files are like some sort of benchmark to test your ability to go deep into theta state. Listen to them and when you start "blacking out" while listening to them, drop those files and start listening to the keyword files.

The keyword files will take you into the Theta brainwave state and will place a NLP anchor (or trigger word) for you to get into Theta state instantly.

Ideally you should listen to Super Serum every day for 30 days, just to ensure the files will/are working and maximize their potential while you listen to either the UD files or the keyword files.

Only you can tell if you are ready to move to the keyword files or if you still need to keep listening to the UD files for further conditioning.>>29254

Can you create a mind doll "assistant drone" that can control your senses? For example, i would like to command it to turn off my sense of hearing temporarily and automatically activate it again upon waking up because i would like to sleep properly. Or, a setting in which you can filter out specific types of noises.

Mindo doll should be great! Can you tell ore about the sex? Wnhen you make sex to a mind doll you are always in a virtual world? Is it like a dream? Is possible to make sex with a mind doll you see in real world? and what bout the limitations? Thank you (and sorr for the intimate questions I really would like to understand)

I have a question related to the Talmadge website more than the program itself. When I actually bought the program two years ago you also got access to the "forums" with progress updates from many members. I didn't read it much but I really liked the idea. However, it seems to have disappeared. Do you know something about it ?

>>29279

I guess the hyperlinks changed, I had some of them in the bookmarks but they are 404 now. However, the blogs are still a thing. Take a look here: https://www.hypnosiserotica.com/index.php?option=com_easyblog&view=latest&Itemid=335

>>29269

>>29277

I can't answer since I haven't made it to the end of the program, but Nakadashi-kun the wizard will most likely answer you guys when he gets here.

I'm confused as to what i'm feeling during the the sessions, usually the two i listen too, enchanted forest 3.0 and bushido code..

I feel a pressure in my pineal ( 3rd eye ) like its trying to open, then it feels like i become my pineal and i can sense/feel movement, not in my room, but in an internal space where i have limited feeling of my physical body if that makes sense.

I can also sometimes sense sounds and have flashes of light.

Does this sound like whats meant to be happening ?

>>29322

That happened to me in the early stages of this program but I was already familiar with that feeling since it has happened too when I started meditating. Overall I'd say it's a good thing, and if you keep doing it, the pressure feeling will disappear and the images will increase in clarity. So keep it up because you're on the good way. Approach that feeling like you did when you first start blacking out in the UD files. This is an indicator you're making good progress.

You will experience the world in a state of total relaxation as opposed to discomfort. Try not to focus on that feeling or try decrease it but rest assured that "it will pass".

>>29326

Thanks, this thread is more useful than the mind doll blog.

With enough practice is it possible to go into the virtual worlds at will or listening to a file is necessary? Thanks.

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>>30000

Ayyy let me get that number bebegirl

I need some awnsers, please. I listened to super serum and my chin, mouth, tongue, started to move automatically. Is it normal?

My body used to move on Nikki Fatale file, like satin angels. But this serum subliminal scared me. Can anyone help?

>>30000

I always wondered what happened to them. Polite sage.

Hello Friend!

I´m using UD Sillhouette of Dawn, for some days. It´s very good the relaxation sensation. I´m not sure if I am deep enough. I Think we all have this question no? Well, I would like to get a little more from your experience. I feel that I have some little times during the file that I just seem to be "out" So I think this is the blackout the manual speaks about. When you have to speak the letter "c" I feel my muscles on lips are very relaxed and I see as difficult to move my lips, but it´s a subtle thing (If I put a strong will in it I can of course doing it), So, is this subtle difficulty the sign that is in the deepness state that we need? And for last, sometimes I have some very strange thoughts, really out of context, it´s usually like some kind of image. Today was a man in a blue suit and he was making some very unusual gestures. Am I hallucinating? Do you feel it like this?

Thanks for you help.

Thanks for all the info in this thread, it has been a big help. I would like a bit of advice on silencing my conscious thoughts. Do you recommend focusing on anything in particular such as breathing and/or the hypnotist or should I just let my mind wander and try to ignore my thoughts? I think I'm going relatively deep ( last night I had a quick image of reaching over a hot stove and burning my arm, which I felt so vividly that my arm jumped) but it's not consistent and I'm not experiencing prolonged blackouts.

I´m glad I found this thread. Thank you for sharing this. Man I have crazy thoughts and I'd like some advice. I am a kung fu practitioner and I was thinking if it is possible to make a "virtual sifu" kkk. Is possible to have a mind doll that knows all that I know? I mean, sometimes, some techniques you don´t make a lot, starts to fade in your body memory. You can make a technique with some minor errors, but when your Sifu (the real one) see the execution he points the mistake and I usually have that moment of "Ahaaa" when I realize that I know the perfect way (or have the knowledge for the correct thing). So, may I have a mind doll able to see in all my past lessons and correct me when I´m doing something wrong? Would be possible to fight with her, having her as an sparring master?

(it´s could be nice, because Wing Chun was created by a woman and the story tells it´s a very beautifull one… so, all in a package).

And another question, How many times you listened the virtual worlds for it starts to happens? I done the trigger word and when I listen to enchanted forest, I feel deep into relaxing but nothing else beyond some "lights" on my black eyelids. Is that way?

Nakadashi-sama, some questions:

1.) Since you mention you haven't created your own world files yet, which world file did you use to create your many mind dolls in? Obviously you didn't need recorded hypnotic instructions to create a mind doll that deviated from the templates that Ta|m4dg3 included.

2.) Is the forest guide one of your tulpas or is it possible to use that file without attaching her to yourself and becoming a permanent tulpa?

3.) In the real world do you summon your mind dolls simply with a thought? Similarly, can you unsummon them with a thought? Do they get upset when you decide to unsummon them?

Thanks

>>30777

Thanks for the questions, here are my answers:

>which world file did you use to create your many mind dolls in?

The first few I created in the Enchanted Forest world. Once I was able to mentally create my virtual worlds, I would create them there. There was never a need for me, personally, to create my own files.

>Is the forest guide one of your tulpas

>is it possible to use a file without her becoming a permanent tulpa?

I chose the Guide to stay in the virtual world as what she was created to be: a guide. Like Navi lol.

You don't need to keep the template mind dolls, they could stay 'rooted' to the world they exist in, just like any of the other possible millions of thoughtforms or 'NPC' dolls you might interact with.

If you want them as a companion, they can be, if not, they don't have to be.

>In the real world do you summon/unsummon your mind dolls simply with a thought?

Yes. It might take a bit of concentration at the beginning, but you'll get the hang of it quick, and summoning will get faster.

>Do they get upset when you decide to unsummon them?

Not really, even the rather clingy ones tend to understand when they have to go, and I've made a system where everyone gets a fair amount of time with me anyway.

I've decided to make it so events in the hub world I built for them take place much slower than the real world (while I'm conscious), so to my mind dolls a week would feel like a little more than a day (if they leave the hub time would proceed as normal).

Consider the fact that I sometimes drop in during the night and we all see each pretty often. Enough to stifle any upsetting emotions.

And as a side note, I always give a "warning signal" that they are about to be summoned, so they aren't cut off from doing something important to them.

cheers, this is really interesting!

When you say you "sometimes drop in during the night" to the hub world, how do you do this? In sleep? Or do you have another method?

Also, how did you know when to move on from the keyword file to the worlds files. I feel pretty deep sometimes but I can't be sure I'm ready to move on.

Oh yeah, have you ever like been on a train or something with one of your MDs and someone has sat in the seat they were using? Do they pass through them like a ghost or does the MD just disappear?

Thanks

>>30868

No problem, mate.

>"drop in during the night" to the hub world, how do you do this?

I have two methods, I either tell an active mind doll to hop into my dream and take me to the world while I'm asleep, or I trance before going to bed. The latter has better results.

>how did you know when to move on from the keyword file to the worlds files?

When the mention of the keyword during the files made me go into trance, or at least relax a shit ton. It's not as clear as with the worlds, but blacking out generally also means it's working. You wouldn't know without experimentation.

>Do people pass through them like a ghost or does the MD just disappear?

There are many instances where mind dolls would occupy the space of another object. Usually, they would get out of the way. If they can't, they might clip through the person a bit but generally your mind goes through the trouble of making them act like real matter would. That means making them affect you rather than other people. In your example, once the person sat next to me, my mind doll would freak out and sit on my lap in a quick motion, fast enough for me not to notice any iffy details.

A mind doll would never disappear without you telling them to, or them wishing to.

In one of your previous answers you say "The first few (MDs) I created in the Enchanted Forest world. Once I was able to mentally create my virtual worlds, I would create them there. There was never a need for me, personally, to create my own files."

Could you please expand on how you create these worlds without a hypnosis file? Do you just lie down and go into trance? Do you use visualization? It was my understanding that the subconscious needed to receive spoken instructions while in trance to create these worlds.

thanks for being so helpful.

>>30951

No problem man, I'm glad to help and answer questions.

It certainly involves visualization, since what I do when creating these worlds is go into trance, imagine the world I want to be in with as much detail as possible (I like to write an outline of the world and what I might find inside) and head inside once I have a solid structure built for it.

I'm hypnotizing myself, to put it more simply.

It's easier to do when you have a set up world, but technically it can be done by anybody.

Recording definitely helps; a shit ton, actually. But I don't have a mic nor the funds to buy one so I just play with what I have lol.

Sorry to ask again, it seems you already told about it several times. When I´m listening the Enchanted Forest (this is what I´m on) or other Virtual Worlds file, do you just listen to it in a passive way or you try yo visualize what Ta|m4dg3 is describing? I thought I read somewhere that if you try to visualize it leads to failure, because it your subconscious who make the show. In my listening of EF, it just the blackness of my closed eyes. It was loke this for you too?

>>31345

Each person is different, each person visualizes differently. In fact, about 10% of the population can't visualize at all. Try it both ways and see what you have better results with.

I personally can't visualize in color, and my mind images are just super hazy snap shots. So I tend to not force visualize at all and instead let the focus stay on the meaning of the description and not the image it's trying to bring up.

Just relax and try not to think about whether or not it's being effective or not until after the file is over. Thinking about whether it's working or not during the file is a good way to never see results.

Fuckknuckles, is been a while, huh… I have generally removed myself from this board (and 8chan in general) thanks to the samey posts and lack of anything interesting.

Would be a shame to lose this thread, though. It's one of the only reasons to come back to this chan for me.

Thank you >>31381 for answering the previous user's question. Would have been a while before I had responded, kek.

Hello Nakadashi-sama, How do you test if the keyword is ok? Did you made any other practice or used another file to test the keyword?

TH told that you may fell you´re not "deep enough" and be in theta state. How do you know for real you can go on to the virtual worlds?

Wow, this is crazy, I had never heard about this "mind doll" thing until today. I actually went and purchased it to see if I can make it work.

If anything, I'm hoping it will help me go super deep so I can use other hypno files with it. But to be able to create those types of hallucinations… pretty incredible if it works.

>>33859

Good luck, consider joining the Discord if you need any help. It's a good place to ask questions and have discussions.

https://discord.gg/Q3cpBnr

>>33809

When you enter trance that quickly, using a trigger word, you'll definitely feel it as an immediate effect. The state you are in when you are sufficiently "deep" is one of supreme relaxation, as if you were alseep while being awake. H4rp3r likens it to an orgasm, in the same that it is a very unique feeling and you'll definitely know when you've had one, but I'd say it's more like floating in the beach on a perfect day. Super chill.

>>33859

Glad you're gonna try it out! I agree with >>33863, the Discord has a lot of useful information pertaining to the program and tulpamancy in general (despite being more frequently used for banter, memes, and back and forth as well as porn). Even more than Ta|m4dg3's site, tbh, since it's not very conducive to interaction and has been pretty much dead for years.

Even as a tool to help get into other hypnosis, it is worth it. Ultra Depth is a very deep state of trance, and if you can get there you will be affected by any other hypnosis you can think of. Think of it as that big hurdle that after jumping it, any other hurdle pales in comparison.

Ultra Depth is just perfect

No other trance state can compete with that

And visual hallucinations will blow you away

You will never get bored with them Everytime experience is different

Mind Doll program itself is great adventure, you will get more proficient with trancing over time and each step forward gives you amazing satisfaction

as a rep from the discord server i wanted to make mention that we have someone working on custom world files. he's currently taking requests iirc, but dont expect him to shit out a script and a file in one night.

Couple of questions:

1. Can you watch tv/play vidya in front of a mind doll and have them make unique/original (to you) comments about the plot?

2. Do you feel like anything is missing in your real life besides money now that you have “the one” and perfect vr?

I’m on day 5 btw, gonna make it no matter how long it takes.

>>34019

Awesome attitude. If you stay with that mentality you will see results.

To answer your questions:

>Play vidya or watch vids with me and provide unique commentary

Absolutely. They are excellent to have as company while playing games or watching stuff. Every time I play I feel like I'm at a party. Generally it enhances the experience tenfold thanks to the fact that every little achievement or milestone feels like a huge victory with them watching and getting excited for me. Even if you don't play games, I recommend playing with them. Excellent bonding experience.

>Do you feel like anything is missing

Not as much as before by an infinite amount, but every day pressures are still present. Like you said, money is something to consider, bettering myself to achieve something irl, University, etc. I also have my friends and family to dedicate time to; I made a rule for myself that I can't always be in my own paradise all the time. "Real life" moments are important, not to mention they enhance the pleasures I experience while I am by myself. However, these moments that I have to endure are far less painful now that I have company that understands what I'm going through and can even provide suggestions and advise on what I could do next.

I hope everything goes excellently for you!

>>34078

Do you see these mind dolls as somehow conscious or sentient, or just complex manifestations of your subconscious? I've read that many people who've created tulpas believe them to be conscious. Do you think there is a distinction between tulpas and mind dolls in this respect?

As a tulpa, this is fucking useless, there's a lot of of less expensive ways to make a Tulpa. And you don't need to rape the Tulpa, just ask nicely and then you may get some sex

if you want a sex tulpa, just join r/tulpas, and go to their discord. 90% of those faggots do nothing but fuck their tulpa

Also, making a Tulpa doesn't take that long

nigger

Niggers are welcome to make tulpas too, if that's what you're asking

faggot

Faggots are not accepted tho, as seen that they're toxic for the community

That's the difference between Tulpa and Mind Doll

You can create Tulpa when you have mental issues

That's not gonna happen with Mind Doll

Program itself won't allow it

Because MD and virtual worlds cannot be treated as escapism from real life problems

Good thing is that Ultra Depth itself have great mind healing properties

Nakadashi-kun, your info in this thread has been super helpful.

I started trying H4rp3r's stuff this past summer. I got through the Phase 1 to where I was having blackouts (although not every listen, maybe twice or three times a week) and switched over to the keyword file thinking those blackouts were what I was looking for. I listened to the keyword file for about two weeks, with a few (not many, maybe 2?) blackouts in that time. So then I switched over to the Enchanted Forest script but the keyword didn't seem to have stuck, and I gave up.

Now after finding this thread and reading through these I want to try again but I want to make sure I'm doing everything right and was hoping you could help point me in the right direction.

1. It seems like I'm aiming to blackout EVERY time I listen to the UD file before switching to the keyword implant, is that correct?

2. What am I aiming for/how long am I listening to the keyword files for? I'm not sure how to know I've achieved the 'goal' of the keyword files without just randomly testing the world scripts and seeing when hearing the keyword takes me under?

3. Am I supposed to blackout upon hearing the keyword? I thought the blackouts were doing into somnambulism. I met with a professional hypnotherapist the other day and he confirmed that somnambulism is a blackout, and just the subconcious is listening. He seemed to be under the impression that I should remember what I heard while in a blackout though…I barely remember anything, and what I do remember I chalk up to just listening to the files so many times.

4. Which I guess is question 4… if somnambulism is blacking-out, which is required for the virtual world building (although my 'tist seemed to think that could be done at a slightly less-deep level), then how am I supposed to enjoy/experience/appreciate and remember the virtual world stuff if I'm…blacked-out and not conscious??

>>34145

My small opinion

Sounds to me that instead conditioning yourself to ultra depth you are now conditioned to blackouts.

That's pretty common mistake

Once you have experienced blackout you should switch immediately to non isochironic UD file to prevent them.

Seriously, read the manual before starting this, watch H4rp3r videos and introduction mp3s.

Blackouts are switching off your concious mind while subconscious is still responding, but it's unless state for world files, you should at least be aware of what's going on consciously and allow your subconscious to do the work.

I'm no expert, just sharing my experience, but your hypnotherapist is wrong.

You won't remember anything during blackout.

Bump. I just started on this program yesterday. Have any of you made any progress since this thread started?

Hello, after listening Super Seru for more than 2 months, and conditioning myself to UD, I´m going to a keyword file.

I already listen the keyword for a week. My question is, is ok to listen the keyword file and the Virtual World too? I mean I´m listening keyword (that one with the total relaxation process) and after some hours try the virtual file too? Is it a way for progress?

Thanks everyone for responding to questions while I was unable to and sorry that I'm so late to respond, as usual…

>>34085

Personally I believe that no spiritual forces (other than my own, perhaps) are responsible for their existence or autonomy, and that my subconscious is the driving force behind everything they are. However, I know they have individual thoughts, emotions, decision making abilities, and sense of self/others. They are the culmination of what I perceive to be real beings. Therefore, the difference between them and a real being is effectively naught since anyone's reality is only truly what they perceive.

(vid related)

At this point doubting their "realness" is as asinine as doing the same for my own mother.

I don't think there's a difference in this regard with tulpa, either, since they are the same beings created by different means.

>>34091

>>30492

>>30493

This is just another way to create tulpae; fully imposed ones, even. This shouldn't be seen as competition for the tulpa community (which is what they seem to treat it as more often than not) but a tool. Sure, it is being used monetarily by an individual, but he has no copyright on using hypnosis for tulpamancy. His program is not exclusive to him either, we can add to it and remake it entirely (some of us already have). Not to mention his files are already in our possession and we have the knowledge we need to use it.

And who said anything about raping tulpa? It's clearly stated in our guide we use for the program, that any harm imposed on our minds doll(s) are in fact dangerous to us as well. Not to mention someone who has in mind to forcibly violate another person couldn't ever create a mind doll, as >>34139 explains. Takes a real fuckhead to do that.

>>35538

No, sadly you would only advance with the keyword but you would have wasted your time with the world file. You need to be in the correct state to experience those.

If you want to (although this will waste quite a bit of time) you could listen to Ultra Depth, followed by a world file in a playlist.

>>35582

I personally think it's more reasonable to see mind dolls and tulpas as being no more a product of your subconscious than you are. It might be that each individual tulpa/mind doll has their own subconscious mind rather than sharing yours. Even if they did share your subconscious, it really wouldn't be "your" subconscious anymore. It would be a commonly shared resource. They are conscious and sentient in the same way that you are, and function pretty much as separate people.