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▶ No.97300>>97301 >>102034
prettier then the people behind them. i see someones cool fursona then find out there ugly.
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▶ No.97301>>97302
It's a very nice concept.
>>97300
of course, anyone with a IQ higher than mental retardation knows that.
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▶ No.97302
>>97301
i want to fuck there fursona, not them, no thanks.
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▶ No.97304>>97305 >>97350 >>97378 >>97421
>>97299 (OP)
What is a furry? A miserable little pile of drawings!
A representation of themselves that they take WAY too seriously. An idealized self-substitution that they use instead of spending that time, money, and energy bettering themselves in the real world. Commodified sex, power, and status in digital form. They don't like you, they like the fake "you", the you in the real world is a loser with few friends, a mid-paying job, and low housing costs. God forbid that someone uses photos of "you" for their F-List profile or makes a character copying "you" by having the same species/name/eye color. The doms have a power fantasy about always being on top, and above everyone else, literally. The Subs also have a power fantasy, always being on bottom, and below everyone else, figuratively. "Everyone loves me because I'm the greatest dom, that's why I'm always on top and you don't you dare suggest I sub." vs. "Everyone loves me because I'm the greatest sub, that's why I'm always on bottom and don't you dare suggest I top." Fetishes are just sub-categories: greatest pred vs. greatest prey; greatest macro vs. greatest micro; greatest feet vs. greatest foot worshipper, etc. ; We deal with extremes, there are no mid-points: either you're the greatest dom or the greatest sub, there is no middle, to be in the middle is to be failure. The middle is obscurity, the middle is lonely, you don't want to be in the middle, you joined the furry 'community' to get away from that, remember?
And all those watches, well, they're just people who like you right, right? Friends? And those bookmarks on F-List are your friends, too, and possible lovers, right? No. They don't like you. They don't even know who you are. They might see a pic of you IRL, or even a description, but those are for your character, remember? That's who they really like, your character. Not you. That's why we're all here. To pretend, to make believe. Make no mistake, the fandom is a vast fictional multiverse inhabited by thousands of miniature, self-created and self-directed personal universes, with each furry's character as the protagonist of their own story. Pick and choose. Nobody really likes you, nobody wants to see you, They're here to see a show. And you're here to entertain. So, entertain, but don't forget, you're an actor, and this is one big movie. You are an actor, so act. But don't take it too seriously, lest you come to believe in your own lies, and that's the rabbithole that far too many furs, much like yourself, have fallen down.
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▶ No.97305>>97313
>>97304
Your delivery's nice, and the rhetoric certainly has the edge it needs, but it's a tad flat in the middle where you start framing psychology in terms of polar extremes. Subs and doms certainly have their own archetypal fantasies, but you miss the rainbow of other competing fantasies at play. Your post is right on the money otherwise.
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▶ No.97307>>97308
>>97299 (OP)
I get why you'd want a furry avatar, like a mask to talk through. But when people create entire personalities and pretend to be them outside of RP? No. Screw that. Just be yourself ffs. It's the internet who gives a shit?
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▶ No.97308>>97654
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▶ No.97309
I like fursonas! They're a great creative outlet for myself and provide an interesting design challenge.
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▶ No.97313>>97361
>>97305
Thanks.
>it's a tad flat in the middle where you start framing psychology in terms of polar extremes
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Splitting_(psychology)
https://www.learning-mind.com/psychological-splitting/
It's splitting projected onto a character. By the way, I'm not saying switches don't exist, I'm just saying they're middleground, irrelevent to the masses at large.
>you miss the rainbow of other competing fantasies at play
Like I said, those are fetishes, which are sub-categories. But they all fall down into either sub or dom. There is, of course, combined fetishes for example, where the greatest macro's feet are tended to by the greatest sub's foot worship; forcing a micro to worship your feet is inherently dominant, and worshipping a macro's feet is inherently submissive.
If you're saying 'competing fantasies' as in, a dom doing something submissive to a sub, such as a macro forcing a restrained sub to worship his feet, but also licking the sub's feet, then I believe that would make both of them technically switches. It may be true that the sub is being more dominated by the dom since he is both tied up and worshipping, whereas the macro is restraining him, forcing him to worship his feet, and licking the sub's feet. The dom is doing the most domming in this scenario whereas the sub is doing the most subbing, but the dom is doing a little bit of subbing by licking the sub's feet and the sub is doing a little bit of domming by having his feet licked. I say this because they agreed to do the RP beforehand so they consented. I'm saying the players are technically switches, not that the activity itself is technically switching.
Or at least that's my interpretation of it. This is within the confines of a Western-centric cultural outlook. The Easterns have a different definition of their dom/sub categories. For example, in Western cultures, receiving a blowjob is dominant and giving a blowjob is submissive: what is implied is that the dom is above the sub in status and the sub is lowly and therefore must serve their dom.
In Eastern cultures, giving a blowjob is dominant and recieving one is submissive: what is implied is that the dom is the provider that is powerful enough to provide for his sub and therefore aboe the sub in status; the sub, by contrast, recieveing the blowjob, implies he needs to be taken care of by a higher status dom, much in the same way that children are taken care of by their parents and so the parents are above them in status because they provide for the children, the sub is provided for as he cannot provide for himself and therefore is lower in status than the dom.
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▶ No.97322
I'm really bad at memorizing names/usernames so it's super handy for me to remember or describe them as the "purple fox with 4 dicks" to people, also lets me visualise something when talking to them and with a cute animal which is a bonus. I love the concept, it's very unique to this fandom compared to others where they usually choose a character/waifu whatever to use as an online face within certain circles
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▶ No.97331>>97334
Mostly indifferent, sometimes consider having one- but holy hell do people get way to invested in them. It's a drawing you choose to represent yourself with, it's not actually you.
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▶ No.97334
>>97331
>it's not actually you.
On all levels except physical~
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▶ No.97350
>>97304
>We deal with extremes, there are no mid-points
In my experience, that's pretty far from the truth.
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▶ No.97361
>>97313
If you want to put everyone in a dom/sub box, you'll succeed 80-99% of the time. My own character's marked usually-submissive and looks the part, making it easily fit in the sub box if you stop looking there.
That said, there are plenty of people who want casual sex without a strong dominant/submissive lean in the scene. There are additionally folks that just want to go on an adventure with a DM, even if there aren't themes of dom/sub going on. In any case, all this jazz is subjective, and I can't prove anything I've said.
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▶ No.97367
I hate everything about them
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▶ No.97370
>>97299 (OP)
it's really weird
>meet someone with really high quality art and sona
>they're ugly irl
>meet someone with shitty $13 art pieces and mediocre fursona
>they're a stud in real life
I guess that's the case with most murrsuiters tho, spend more on suits than art. Though I have met a few people with both good art and who are hot as fuck but those people tend to be few and far inbetween.
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▶ No.97374>>97392
>>97299 (OP)
wish i had one but i lack the self-awareness to use it as a personality substitute while also lacking the personality to use it as a representation of myself. in short i am in the unhappy middle ground and i wish i could escape it but i probably never will. i'm not creative enough to invent, but i'm too creative to let myself steal outright a-la original-the-character.
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▶ No.97375
>>97299 (OP)
A decent concept if you don't take it too far and go "THIS IS MY TRUE SELF!!!"
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▶ No.97378>>97409
>>97304
But I am the greatest sub, and everyone does love me, but no one other than god himself is man enough to satisfy me which is why my physical being will always be alone. I'll keep putting on that show though.
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▶ No.97390
They're stupid Gary/Mary Sue wish fulfillment fantasies, which wouldn't be so bad on their own if they didn't become the main focus for most artists nowadays. World building and overall creativity went out the window in favor of people pretending they're still in highschool as they all pine for the popular kids table, and the glory of getting into the pants of said popular kids.
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▶ No.97392>>97422 >>97479
>>97374
>i'm too creative to let myself steal outright
That's not creativity, that's having self-respect.
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▶ No.97409>>97413
>>97378
No one even knows who the fuck you are you deluded fag
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▶ No.97410>>97539
I've made a few characters to get porn and memes of, though never really liked to use them as a stand-in for me as an internet persona, so I guess they don't really fit the textbook definition of fursonas. I've always felt more comfortable with just using my characters as a tool to have content made since those characters aren't me. Still feels kinda funky to me when someone treats their character as who they are rather than just a product of them being on the internet, but maybe that's just because they don't do it like I do 🤷♀️
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▶ No.97419
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▶ No.97421
>>97304
What if I dont take my fursona too seriously?
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▶ No.97422>>97423
>>97392
What if I still want to create a fursona?
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▶ No.97423
>>97422
Then that's your desire.
But do you have the motivation to come up with one, the creativity to make it interesting, and the sense of style to give that design some direction?
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▶ No.97479>>97481 >>97498
>>97392
Self Respect doesn't make you happy. It's a millstone around my neck tbh. Being a talentless hack is better than being nobody.
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▶ No.97480
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▶ No.97481>>97484
>>97479
I can’t say I agree with you there.
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▶ No.97482>>97486 >>97625
Species thread looks about to die, I'll post this here.
I don't know which species to pick! I'm an amateur artist and I like drawing animals, but I don't know which one to pick for my fursona
badger (but I feel like badgers are fat/bulky and I'm not)
raccoon (I had a bad experience with one and now I feel weird about raccoons)
weasel (hard to draw and I'm not a smol boy)
help
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▶ No.97484>>97485
>>97481
I mean I think i should emphasise I'm not saying it's better than being a nobody, but nobody. Effective non-existence. Even the people we love to hate have a part to play in the world, but not the non-existent.
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▶ No.97485
>>97484
I like that a little more. It seemed a little bit futile/nihilistic at first glance. Sometimes it is enough just to know you did a good job.
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▶ No.97486>>97490 >>97494
>>97482
I'd go for a goat tbh.
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▶ No.97494
>>97486
>goat
Have fun with all the vore jokes thanks to your species being able to digest anything they eat
Always see the "please don't eat me" one floating around profiles, and of course, goat vore porn
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▶ No.97498
>>97479
>Being a talentless hack is better than being nobody.
I suppose I can see the reasoning behind that, but depending on the level of idea theft can you really say you aren't still a nobody?
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▶ No.97509
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▶ No.97539
>>97410
Heh he has a penis tail.
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▶ No.97625>>97642 >>97652 >>101536
Fursonas are alright. It's similar to wondering what time period you'd want to live in, what class you'd want to be in fantasy, etc. Everyone imagines at some point or another what it'd be like if things were different, pretending what they'd want to be or be like. It's when people start making Fursonas part of their identity that it becomes a problem, much in the same way it would appear odd if someone earnestly believed they were a medieval knight or happen to be a similar embodiment.
However, I do believe Fursonas are currently overplayed in the fandom. People take them too seriously or into too high of regards or have their entire experience in the fandom revolve around it. Not everyone needs a fursona, it should be on the same level as wondering "which animal species would be the most fun to be friends with?" Not everyone needs an answer.
Obsession over Fursonas needs to stop and I'd say it's partly the reason no one takes Furries seriously, they see it as a bunch of weirdos discussing which animal they're most like.
>>97482
Look at traits you find admirable about that animal and try to emulate it. Raccoons are stereotyped as crafty or cunning. Badgers are stereotyped as persistent or dedicated. Weasels are stereotyped as cunning or wily, similar to foxes. Every animal has good characteristics about them, instead of trying to figure out which one matches you or which one closely relates to you, figure out what you admire about certain animals and why. Let an animal choose you. I wouldn't say a Fursona is necessary either and admiration for a variety of animals is good enough.
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▶ No.97642>>97669
>>97625
good tips, friend. Thanks. I'm leaning towards badger right now!
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▶ No.97652>>97668 >>97709 >>101941
>>97625
Here's the big thing I hate about fursonas currently: "It's me except idealized and I'm super cool and now I have powers so Kevin won't beat me up anymore and my dad will love me"
or
"Guys I just played this video game and it was super cool so I made a character from it and it's totally not a complete rip off of the original! See it's super coo! It's totally original!"
I can really get behind the idea of having a character in a fantasy setting, scifi setting, or urban setting. But when it's quite literally just "you" except "cooler" or ripping a video game I just cringe
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▶ No.97654
>>97308
That's pingas to you, heathen.
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▶ No.97668
>>97652
>I can really get behind the idea of having a character in a fantasy setting, scifi setting, or urban setting. But when it's quite literally just "you" except "cooler" or ripping a video game I just cringe
Pretty much my feelings on the matter.
I'm okay with characters having powers or whatever if you want to give them backstories and explanations for them, how they use them, and whatever else.
At that point they can't be you anymore though.
If you want a "you-but-furry" fursona, it's literally going to have to have the same occupation, body type, personality, and everything else except being a half animal humanoid.
Start changing things and it becomes its own character, and trying to claim that as yourself isn't good.
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▶ No.97669>>97675
>>97642
Not a lot of badgers out there. It's always nice to see more. Got a pair of badger characters in my roster.
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▶ No.97675
>>97669
do you have art for them? I want to see some badgers
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▶ No.97709
>>97652
I don't see whats wrong with that? A fursona is for it's maker. The problem sort of comes when its forced on others. "Me with powers" is great when you are in a group RP that has powers in its world building, but going to public forums and pretending to zap people is annoying.
Its not really a fursona problem yah? Its manners and understanding when what fantasies are appropriate.
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▶ No.97718>>97759 >>97764
I'm starting to get sick of "trans" fursonas.
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▶ No.97759>>97812 >>97817
>>97718
Psst, cuntboys aren't trans
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▶ No.97764
>>97718
I gotta say I have a real guilty fetish for "trans girls" and I don't mean just futas I mean on the fursona, they're explicitly trans, neutered, tiny little impotent dick from hormones. Gets me rock hard. I realize it's super fucked up but god, I just can't help myself. I just really like the idea of boys surgically becoming girls, sort of. I actually don't like vaginas but the castration and tits are hot as fuck.
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▶ No.97812>>97814
>>97759
Some people do have legit trans characters though, like they went through with all that sex change shit they'd do IRL. Trans woman (or is it man?) character with a little tiny dick and kinda male structure, but has some amount of tiddy and is portrayed to act/dress/style themselves more as a woman.
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▶ No.97814>>97815 >>97817 >>97909
>>97812
But why? Doesn't that defeat the point of having an idealized version of yourself?
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▶ No.97815
>>97814
You would think so. I've not really tried to think too hard about it since I've just accepted that I'll never really understand some of these people
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▶ No.97817>>97818
>>97759
I'm not talking about dickgirls or cuntboys, I'm talking about unironic trans fursonas.
>>97814
Of course it does, but if their sona isn't trans they can't be more special
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▶ No.97818
>>97817
sometimes it’s tough to tell the people who just want to be part of the scene from people who actually struggle with their sexual identity or who just want to show support or solidarity for lgbt rights. Maybe being a trans furry is as much as they dare, and telling their parents and coworkers and friends is too much to deal with.
Just acknowledge their effort and move on. In today’s culture if you make one statement about transgendered people, the message people see in it can follow you for life, whether or not it’s what you actually meant.
I think that if we didn’t make it so goddamn important what gender you are and whether you agree with it, we’d all be happier. It doesn’t matter if you want to reproduce or not. You should know that about someone way before you have the idea of getting into a relationship with them.
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▶ No.97909
>>97814
>Doesn't that defeat the point of having an idealized version of yourself?
Fursonas don't have to be "idealised", some can be 1:1 to it's maker with all faults included. In regards to trans fursonas like this, people like to use their fursona as a marker of how far they've come, as they evolve their sona does too and if they draw or commission art it kinda shows an evolutionary timeline of the character and how they've changed
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▶ No.97978>>101294 >>101299 >>101536
am i the only person who thinks it's weird for non-australians to have a kangaroo avatar/fursona
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▶ No.101294>>101295
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▶ No.101295>>101299
>>101294
they're just so strongly associated with australia. with opossums or something where their range is limited to north/central america, but they're not a national animal or anything so it's not so weird. i probably tend to see kangaroos as implying australian unless otherwise stated.
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▶ No.101299
>>97978
>>101295
Anon you’re solely focusing on stereotypes. Like would you feel the same about a non Arabian dude picking a camel? Or someone not from Arctic picking a penguin? Or someone not of Asian descent picking a panda? Nobody cares where these animals are from geographically. The only reason you’re focusing on kangaroos is largely because of cartoons that stereotype Australia as just a desert wasteland where kangaroos live.
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▶ No.101536>>101667
>>97625
I just went with raccoons because all the gifs I see of them being fat pieces of shit who love to work with their hands
>>97978
this is just silly dude
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▶ No.101571
useless as nobody ive known has come close to there fursona without being a toxic popufur or something about there personality is extremely offputting.
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▶ No.101579>>101580
what monstrosity would result from an anon letting /fur/ design their sona
theoretically
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▶ No.101580
>>101579
Probably a cute little raccoon like n8 wearing a diaper
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▶ No.101667>>101903
>>101536
So uhm who's the artist, where can I find more of their work, etc?
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▶ No.101903
>>101667
The artist is Bakemonoy, I plan on getting more from him soon, he's very good and his prices are pretty fair, hes a br tho and his english is a bit clunky.It comes off as endearing though.
https://www.furaffinity.net/user/bakemonoy/
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▶ No.101912
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▶ No.101937>>101940
Fursona is just a tame, and generally more accepted, form of otherkin.
Prove me wrong.
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▶ No.101940>>102014
>>101937
Fursona is just a moniker for a furry alter-ego. Unless you are completely insane you don't actually think you ARE your fursona - even if your fursona is heavily inspired by the real you.
Otherkin legit fucking believe they are wolves or dragons or whatever trapped in human bodies. They're fucking insane and lulzy.
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▶ No.101941>>101943
>>97652
>Species: Dreemurr
Should I feel bad that Ilm into that game enough to know that's wrong, or good that I'm not autistic enough to base my OCs on someone else's IP despite that?
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▶ No.101943
>>101941
>Should I feel bad that Ilm into that game enough to know that's wrong, or good that I'm not autistic enough to base my OCs on someone else's IP despite that?
I actually thought the game was cute, if somewhat overrated. Undertale/Deltarune OCs are fucking stupid though.
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▶ No.102014>>102021
>>101940
Yet furries generally consider their fursona to be their best selves, are introduced by fursona first, and in some cases go so far as to incorporate their fursona into other media and even real life.
By all rights and purposes furries self identify with their chosen animal species the same way an otherkin does, just less obtuse about it.
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▶ No.102021>>102064
>>102014
>By all rights and purposes furries self identify with their chosen animal species the same way an otherkin does, just less obtuse about it.
Except they don't. There is that very-important grasp on the fact that they aren't actually their fursona, which only the most utterly brain-damaged furries lack (and those ones are usually otherkin anyway). Talk about being obtuse here - are you an otherkin or something? Christ.
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▶ No.102034
>>97300
>then for comparison
>there as posessive
>no apostrophe in someone's
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▶ No.102064>>102065 >>102067
>>102021
Do you mean only the most utterly brian-damaged furries lack a fursona? There are tons of furries without fursonas. Though it might depend on how you define who is and isn't a furry.
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▶ No.102067>>102070
>>102064
I said exactly what I meant you fucking illiterate. Furries without sonas are furries without sonas. That's it. They've decided they're happy enough ogling other people's stuff and don't feel compelled to come up with an alter-ego character for themselves, which is fine. There is a distinct line that otherkin cross in order to be deemed crazy and it's the "I am really a wolf, no fucking lie dude, ignore the human shell" line.
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▶ No.102070
>>102067
I agree with you entirely, then.
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