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 No.89616>>89675 >>89736 >>90050 [Watch Thread][Show All Posts]

(SPOILER ALERT)

I’m astounded and disgusted by the recent renewed interest in Tube’s “Contraindications”. I hate the story. And I hate the author.

The story actually terrifies me. To this very day, I cringe in terror whenever I think about it or try to read it again, and yet several scenes arouse me to the point where I still return to them in my mind over and over again, trying hard to change it in my mind so that it’s not so scary. I don’t always manage to do it. It’s sometimes like an old drug addiction that makes me feel horrible, and I’m still not doing a perfect job of dealing with it.

I think the story actually gave me PTSD.

It’s not exactly a physical repulsion- it’s more of a psychological horror.

You see, there was a brief period in my life when I was actually fearful of my sexual urges- specifically, of my urges taking hold of me and not letting me live a normal life.

“Contraindications” came out at exactly the wrong time. And when it went on a long hiatus, I was almost going mad worrying about how the story would turn out.

Matt spends most of the story feeling afraid. Afraid of what’s he become. He’s afraid that he’s lost all control of himself, his urges, and his body. He’s afraid that he’ll no longer be able to have sex with anybody when he grows too big to fit his cock inside anybody, especially his boyfriend. He’s afraid that he’ll NEVER stop growing. He’s afraid that he’s going to become a mindless sex fiend, even a rapist.

There are several scenes that make this particularly distressing. The gas mask, for instance. Stetson treats him like a patient with an illness. They chain him up to post(?) in a dark room so that he doesn’t escape and recklessly fuck somebody. He’s overdosing.

There’s a bunch of unnecessary discussion about homosexuals getting beaten up.

Gym-goers tell him that his growth is “cheating”.

Matt loses the ability to fit inside his car. Normally this wouldn’t seem so strange in a growth story, but he waxes nostalgic about the car and the memories he associates with it, like he’s losing an old friend.

A doctor tells him that his growth should be using up so much energy that he pretty much burns out.

His boss insults him with cruel homophobic slurs, and yet Matt pretty much agrees with him. He fucks him in a rage.

This Saul person becomes obsessed with Matt and drugs him, kidnaps him, chains him up again, and forces him to grow aroused against his will.

The tension and fear lasts until the very last second. Matt hates growing. He feels like his skin is too tight. He hates how he’s about to cum again, and in desperation, he injects himself with sedatives. Even though this ends his growth, it’s as if he stopped the growth just in time before it *killed* him- at least that’s what I get from it.

But it doesn’t stop there. When Stetson insists on having sex afterward, Matt is scared again- this time he’s scared that he’s going to grow too big and hurt his boyfriend. We don’t know if his growth is truly over until he orgasms. Even then, his cock is just barely able to penetrate Stetson, which is hardly satisfying for any hyper fan.

AND YET THE TENSION STILL GOES ON. Even at the beginning of the so-called “happy ending”, we’re made believe and worry that Saul obsessively hunted him down. It’s only when we realize that it’s a movie being filmed that we FINALLY learn that Matt is going to be okay.

THIS IS IN THE LAST FEW PARAGRAPHS.

And what did I get when I told the author that I was afraid he was going to explode, hoping for reassurance and sympathy? He mocked me. HE MOCKED ME. And when I told him flat out that he was being cruel and barely any different from Matt’s boss, he didn’t even TRY to disagree with me. I suppose he thought he was being clever, sarcastically going along with my criticisms (admittedly I was being very harsh and emotional, but still).

It was pathetic.

Tube/Pen Darke is a jerk. A cold, heartless jerk who likes to torment and abuse his characters.

 No.89631>>89633

The author mocking you is a bit of a dick move but honestly this looks like you got really invested in the story/characters at a time in your life when you were vulnerable and you're mad at a creator who doesn't see things the way you do because they can't possibly for writing the story they wanted to write. And that makes you a bit of a bigger dick here. I can respect everything you had to say right up to that last sentence.

Outside of you, who gives a fuck if an author is mean to their characters? It's fiction. they aren't real. The person who made them up can do whatever the fuck he wants to them. Honestly this post makes me want to read this and I don't give a shit about growth fetish stuff.


 No.89633>>89635

>>89631

Wow.

You're no better than he is. Who's being a dick here?


 No.89635>>89637 >>89654

>>89633

The difference between him and me is that I don't give a shit if I'm being a dick. He seems like he's trying to be sincere, up until the end. I dunno. I just hate that kind of "I don't like what you did with YOUR property, so your an asshole" entitlement mentality going on.

I sympathise with OP in part. But what's he expect an author writing obvious fetish shit to say when someone says the wank bank door stopper hurt his feelings? When something upsets you constantly at every moment, maybe stop reading it.


 No.89637>>89642 >>90137

>>89635

I was comparing you to the author.

Think about it, you're telling someone who was and still is traumatized that they shouldn't be mad at what gave them trauma. That's pretty sick.


 No.89642

>>89637

Ah, well, in that case I'm flattered. Clearly the author made an impression and so did I.

Anyway, anybody got this? I wanna read it.


 No.89644>>89645

OP here...

Sweet Jesus, you're just like him. How can you say mocking me was a dick move when you're mocking me too? You sure you're not Tube pretending to be someone else?


 No.89645>>89649

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>>89644

On the whole, my attention was not to mock you, although it's probably come off that way. My issue is that you seem incredibly entitled to Tube's work and time and you wanted something out of him that he doubtless found surprising at least and probably unreasonable/nonsensical.

His story impacted you negatively. That probably wasn't his goal. But at the same time, most career artists are not interested in this kind of infromation coming from readers at the best of times. Usually they're more apt to be confused, upset, and prone to lashing out because you've essentially just told them they don't know the characters they created as well as you do. That's a shitty thing to hear.

Honestly it sounds like you confused the guy and his knee-jerk reaction was to laugh it off and move on. The story doesn't mean as much to him as it does to you no matter what you want out of it. He finished it and moved on to the next thing. Meanwhile you're stuck fretting about this book you can easily delete/give away/sell and just blacklist everything about it with a browser extension.

tl;dr: You're trying to have a heartfelt moment on a chan board. What were you expecting?


 No.89649>>89675 >>89757

>>89645

This wasn't really my point. My point was that the story was horrible, and that the author is horrible, both for writing such an awful thing and for mocking my feelings.

I don't pretend to think I know his characters better than he does. It's the idea that somehow rape and fear and misery is supposed to be arousing somehow. That's really messed up. How anyone could read it and masturbate to it without feeling awful I can't guess. I admit that I had that problem myself- it WAS arousing and I did feel awful. I kind of hated myself for it.

It's like being happy seeing someone in a horror movie get murdered. I know that's exaggerating a bit, but you get what I mean, right?

I think porn should feel good. I mean, that's what being horny is, right, feeling good? The characters DIDN'T feel good. If characters you care about are feeling bad, the readers will feel bad too. That's how fiction works. If the reader feels something different, then either the author got it wrong, or there's something wrong with the reader.

Pain and suffering isn't sexy. I thought this was more obvious.

I want everyone to know about this. I'm not sure I like the idea of someone making money off of this kind of thing.


 No.89651

Just want to add that I talked to the artist about this too and he was much kinder to me. I don't know how he got involved or managed to miss the obvious dark side of the story, but he seems like a nice guy, so I have nothing against him.


 No.89654>>89675 >>89726

>>89635

>I just hate that kind of "I don't like what you did with YOUR property, so your an asshole" entitlement mentality going on.

But it's okay when white supremacist trash cry that Disney does whatever they wish with Star Wars and not what "da fanz" want.

Fans should rarely be listened to. If they don't like it they can go like something else. They should only be acknowledged when sales drop, and even then examine if the person is a fan or a whiner.

>it's safe to say most of the alt-right bozos claiming to be "fans boycotting" something these days are not fans but pretend to be due to an agenda and never bought it in the first place


 No.89675>>89729

>>89616 (OP)

Wow, now I really want to read this. Not because it seems to be some kind of gay sizeplay erotica, but because it made such an impression on OP. The author is either really skilled at storytelling to mix a fetish and a character's struggles into something of a good drama, or OP's reading way into / projecting hardcore into this narrative.

>>89649

>It's the idea that somehow rape and fear and misery is supposed to be arousing somehow. That's really messed up. How anyone could read it and masturbate to it without feeling awful I can't guess.

I can empathize with this, but I can't really comment much more on this in relation to the story.

Someone's got to have a copy to share around here.

>>89654

>this whole post

What point are you trying to make here? You seem to be agreeing with the the poster you're replying to, at least.


 No.89719>>89725

>an erotic storry about an otter man's muscles and cock swelling to huge proportions gave me PTSD

now this may sound rich coming from someone posting on a half-zoophile burmese pyrography board, but you're a faggot.


 No.89725

>>89719

What are you even doing on this board?


 No.89726

>>89654

>But it's okay when white supremacist trash cry that Disney does whatever they wish with Star Wars and not what "da fanz" want.

How do you manage to become the type of person who would type this sentence out?


 No.89729

>>89675

Believe me, the summary in my first post is no exaggeration. It gets really dark. I suppose, yeah, it's well-written in the way it made me care about Matt, but it gives no sign that he's going to get better until the very last second.

Imagine Lord of the Rings with the same last-second twist, but with no inspiring speeches to help get you through the despair the characters go through. It's like that.


 No.89736>>89738

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>>89616 (OP)

>getting so traumatized by cartoony, unrealistic, fetish porn that you feel the need to tell the author they're a horrible person for writing it

I couldn't play Doom as a kid because the scream and bloody face when you die scared me too much, and I was still less of a child than you are now.

How fucking soft can you get?

How have you even made it this far in life?

Are you still living with your parents sheltering and coddling you?


 No.89738>>89740

>>89736

>makes fun of someone's psychological problems

how have you made it this far in life without somebody punching you in the face


 No.89740

>>89738

>psychological problems

Any reason I should assume this is an actual mental issue and not a perfectly healthy person who's just socially maladjusted?

All I'm seeing is someone getting incredibly overemotional over something pointless and being surprised when he's called out and mocked for it.

You don't need to be born with brain problems to manage that.


 No.89757>>89759

>>89649

OP, I should note, in case you don't know this: many people LOVE stories that make them feel extreme tension. Many love to be scared about the characters. Many love emotional punches in general; furry fic, and fanfic in general, has fucktons of the angst-ridden plotlines, such as the ever-popular "we're born soulmates, but fate has decreed that we can never be together."

Some people do find rape, pain, suffering and misery sexy in fiction. I understand that you don't, but what that means is, this particular story isn't good for you. It wouldn't be good for me, either, I hate those in fiction, but some other people love them. Go find other fanfic, and you'll find that there's more out there that you really love.

In short, no, I don't believe the author was trying to make readers hurt. They were writing for people who enjoy those aspects. If you don't, that's okay, but it's proper to quit reading and find other fiction.


 No.89759>>89867 >>89869

>>89757

I think there's something very wrong with people like that. The author probably was writing for those kinda people, but that still doesn't mean it's sexy. If it hurts people in real life, it hurts in fiction too. I don't mind good drama, but I shouldn't find it anything else except dramatic, not some other thing.

On top of that, it still doesn't excuse him mocking me.


 No.89867>>89886

>>89759

And the truth comes out! You're just pissy he didn't bow to your entitlement and you want people to agree with you, which...surprise! Nobody does.

You want your revenge? Post the book so the author gets less money. That's the closest you'll ever get. Got a funny feeling you got blocked the minute you aired your "grievances" to this guy and there's nothing you can do about it.


 No.89869>>89877

>>89759

It's your right to think there's something wrong with people like that, but again, this story just isn't for you. What happened, though? What exactly did you send him, and what exactly did he send back that was mocking?


 No.89877>>89886

>>89869

Agreed anon. I wanna see the screencaps of this traumatic event.


 No.89886>>89887 >>89900

>>89867

I am pissed. But not because of whatever it is you're getting at it (honestly I can't tell). I'm morally pissed.

>>89877

I guess I could screencap what happened, but you guys wouldn't find it very interesting. He hid my comments, and his insults weren't very clever. It was the way he was so insensitive to my feelings that really hurt.

He never blocked me actually, as far as I know. I blocked him.

If you guys REALLY want to read the damn story, the original version is still in his FA gallery. The book is not much different, from what I've been told. I hate to take money from the illustrator- like I said, he seems to be mostly innocent in all this- but yes, I do want Tube to not make money from this. I've already asked elsewhere for a leak.

Let me be perfectly clear: It's not my feelings that are important. What matters is that the story is incredibly unpleasant and the author is an asshole no matter how you slice it.

I'll be the first to admit that I probably overreacted to the story- I was in a bad place at the time. But is it so terrible of anyone on earth to be scared and ask for reassurance? Trauma is trauma, and you shouldn't dismiss it just because it came from a small thing. You wouldn't make fun of someone who saw someone die, now would you?

You can read into it as much as you like, but you'd only be projecting your own pessimism onto it.


 No.89887>>89889

>>89886

Having actually seen it, I would hardly say seeing someone die is even reomoetely close to being upset over a furry fetish book and fuck you for even making such a disgusting comparison.


 No.89888>>89890

found the story since cuck op wont share

http://www.furaffinity.net/scraps/tube/


 No.89889

>>89887

it's called hyperbole you dolt


 No.89890

>>89888

would you have found it if he hadn't told you where it was?


 No.89891

god you guys are bad at reading comments you keep missing the point


 No.89895>>89900 >>89914

I don't understand why everyone keeps focusing on whether or not this guy should have been traumatized or not

Isn't the point he's trying to make is that this Tube person didn't care? :/

Besides that, flinging insults at him and dissing how bad he feels isn't going to convince him of anything, so yeah great job at winning arguments, guys


 No.89900>>89908

>>89886

>But is it so terrible of anyone on earth to be scared and ask for reassurance? Trauma is trauma, and you shouldn't dismiss it just because it came from a small thing

It's not the author's job to give you comfort because his writing upset you in some way. Again, I understand you were very upset, and I understand why, but it's not his job. I've read quite a few stories which took dark, unexpected turns that left me feeling awful. But I didn't contact the authors and ask them to give me "reassurance and sympathy." Why would I?

There are countless stories I'd call unpleasant, but I don't bother their authors about writing things I don't enjoy.

>>89895

Yes, he's upset that, when he contacted the author and said their writing upset him, the author dismissed him. Maybe he was an asshole, maybe not, but we don't know. Why don't we? Because OP won't say. OP, he's not an asshole for writing a story that traumatized you. But he may have been an asshole in the way he treated you. I'll ask again:

Please post exactly what you said to him, the first time you contacted him, and say what he said in reply.


 No.89902

P.S. The author hasn't posted anything in several years anyway.


 No.89908>>89913 >>89914 >>90283

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>>89900

Oookay, here it is. Like I said, not very interesting, and my comments are hidden (I don't really remember what I wrote), so I don't see how this is going to enlighten anyone.

But yes, my point is that he didn't care how I felt, not the exact words he used.

My comments as far as I can remember where: "Is Matt going to be okay?" and later basically calling him out for being a jerk. The story was on the second-to-last chapter and I couldn't tell how it was going to end. I wasn't asking for spoilers.

But you CAN easily see the mocking, sarcastic tone he was using. Not exactly flattering himself, is it?

In hindsight, yeah, maybe we'd all be better off if I hadn't asked him anything, but as I keep having to remind everyone, it was his callousness that I want everyone to know about the most. On the other hand, maybe if I hadn't we wouldn't have found out he was a jerk, would we? We don't need more jerks in the world.


 No.89911

Honestly, any decent human being shouldn't go around making fun of somebody who was scared, even if you don't think they should be scared. It's just not cool.


 No.89912

I do remember getting pretty nasty with my own insults after a while, now that I think about it. But God, I was fucking angry. How would you feel if someone did the same thing to you?


 No.89913

>>89908

So far, it looks like you were 100% the aggressor here, my dude. The author just doesn't seem like he's taking you seriously and you jumped straight to calling him a "heartless bastard" within two comments. Given the culture of FA, he probably thought you were joking around at best. At worst, it just looks like he didn't feel like catering to your entitlement. Which is pretty nice of him considering you started throwing mud first. Seeing that Tube didn't stoop to your level even at the end, I'd say he's practically a saint.


 No.89914

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>>89895

>Isn't the point he's trying to make is that this Tube person didn't care? :/

Yes, and we need more context to know if he was right to not give a shit.

>>89908

>all those sarcastic jokes

Are you even sure he knew you were being serious?

I think he just gave you too much credit, and when he realized you were legitimately worried about this fictional character he slipped in that jab and just started joking around.

Kinda hard to tell with most of the conversation missing.

He doesn't seem like much of an asshole though.

Other than the jab at you about leaving insane comments on message boards, it seemed more like he was just trying to avoid the conversation without telling you to fuck off or something.

He could've been nicer, but that doesn't mean he was being mean.

>Comment hidden by its owner

Was that you or someone else?


 No.89915>>89916 >>89917

Again:

I merely asked if Matt was going to be okay.

He made an insensitive joke.

When I told him how the story made me feel, he kept mocking me.

How clear do I have to be to you people??

Yeah, I got mad. Yeah, I got harsh. But nobody in their right mind can say that what he said to me wasn't cruel.

Part of the problem with Tube and everybody here who doesn't believe me is that they don't comprehend the sheer magnitude of the terror I felt when I read the story. IT'S NOT FUNNY.

I was shaking violently. I was sweating. I was holding in screams. Every muscle in my body clenched. I felt like throwing up. I had nightmares. I was haunted by the cliffhangers almost every day. I was in a pit of self-loathing.

And this fucking smug son of a bitch who loves stories about pseudo-rape and fear and misery thinks it's laughable and unimportant.

I was going through a dark, awful patch in my life and this story made it worse. Sure it's just a story. BUT YOU DON'T MAKE FUN OF PEOPLE'S PSYCHOLOGICAL ISSUES NO MATTER WHAT CAUSES THEM.

Does anybody understand now?


 No.89916>>89918

>>89915

Why did you read this story if it affected you this way?

Most people try and absorb media that helps build themselves up in times of personal hardship.

For instance, if you hated riding a bicycle and it left you feeling physically ill using it recreationally, you'd stop riding the bicycle, right?

This entire situation is ultimately your fault, and it's asinine that you expect your peers to validate you and condemn this author just because he produces media that isn't healthy for you.


 No.89917

>>89915

The artist is fine

The story is fine

His fans are fine

The only part of this that isn't fine is you


 No.89918>>89920

You know what I really hate about this conversation?

It's pretty much like reliving the experience all over again. It's like a small scale relapse.

I mean, when a guy says "I had a really fucking awful experience once", you don't go and say "shut up, no one cares".

So fucking congratulations. You go and make your bullshit psycho-evaluations and diagnoses, and instead of wanting to help, you screw up and put the guy down.

Yeah, that's gonna help me. I don't need some speech about "entitlements" or whatever- if any of you really wanted to put an end to my mistakes, maybe trying to tear me apart isn't the way to do it.

You're not accomplishing anything.

>>89916

I was addicted to the story. It turned me on despite myself. I *needed* to find out how it ended.

I was fucked up back then. You don't need to tell me about it.


 No.89919

How in the hell is trying to calm down somebody who's scared not the automatic thing to do? Who the crap thought you "don't have to do it"?

I don't care if I was misunderstood, it's just not right.


 No.89920>>89923

>>89918

It's not on us to coddle you and tell you you're right

Because your not

For us to do that would be harmful for you in the long run because it only validates your mistakes.

If the story hurt you so profoundly you should have disengaged from it; which you could have done at any point within reading the story.

You have to learn to will yourself away from things that hurt you that you do voluntarily.

You made a bad decision. That's fine, everyone does.

Learn from it, grow from it,

Don't read niche fetish rape fiction anymore.


 No.89923>>89926

>>89920

I... really don't get how telling me I'm right is going to "harm" me. I don't know what you think I want you to agree with. Because the only I want anyone to agree with is... again, I feel like I'm really repeating myself here, guys... "making fun of people's psychological issues is bad".

...Which, as far as I can tell, only one other person has agreed with.

And again, like I said, I was addicted to the story. I didn't have the strength to fight the addiction back then. I already know it wasn't healthy.

You talk about seeking sympathy and reassurance as if it's some kind of selfish act, or at least a social error, or even a sign of weakness. Frankly, that sounds downright psychopathic... I really hope that's not what you're going for.

It should be obvious that I haven't read any such fiction in many, many years. That part of my life is over. But learning about it's print publication was like having a PTSD flashback, and I felt it was my duty to bring attention to Tube's unkind actions.

And seriously, I had NO fucking idea I would get this kind of bullshit reaction.


 No.89924

I don’t get why the hell everyone is so mad at this guy

why would anyone get mad at someone spilling their guts and hoping for a little empathy?


 No.89925

It's "not his job"? It's "not on you"? What kind of attitude is that anyway? I thought the opposite was what you always did, no matter what.


 No.89926>>89928

>>89923

What you're saying you want out of this is contrary to this situation.

To me this is less of a "respect the need to recognize people's psychological issues and seeking sympathy" and more of you having an axe to grind over something that you should no longer pay the slightest credence to.

Also you're conflating my statement about making a poor decision to being less about learning to move on and more about me lacking empathy.

Please don't get it twisted; you garnering the willpower to let this shit go and never grace your thoughts again is the healthiest path. There is no advantage to dwell on the things that hurt you, especially ones so easily avoidable as a single piece of literature.


 No.89928>>89929

>>89926

I want both, in a way. If we all agreed that it's wrong, and that the author did that thing, then I could put this to rest. I don't want cruelty to be rewarded.

Forgive me if I'm keen on the whole "justice" thing. I don't think it's unreasonable to have expected a few comments saying "That sounds awful! He sounds like a jerk, so I'm not buying his book."

I've been doing pretty well putting this story out of my mind for a long time. Not all the time, but I'm no longer crippled by it.

This book brought it all back. Not enough to fall back into the pit, but enough to feel a little sick and angry. I know that once this is over, I can go back to normal.

Y'know, mostly normal. It's probably never going to leave me. But I take that disgust I feel over this story and make it part of my goal in life to do the opposite of what the story and the author did to me. I hate those feelings so much that I don't want it to happen to me or anyone else.

Sometimes yelling at jerks is part of that though...

I can't say I'm 100% happy with Tube still not feeling remotely sorry about it, but I at least want a few people to be aware of this unkind side of his personality, which seems so well-hidden (and somehow considered defensible?).


 No.89929>>89931

>>89928

>If we all agreed that it's wrong, and that the author did that thing, then I could put this to rest.

Hope you're ready to be complaining about this guy on your death bed while he completely forgets about you because this whole thing seems incredibly insignificant.

>I don't want cruelty to be rewarded.

What cruelty?

All he did was not give you asspats because you got unbearably anxious over porn.

He wasn't even really mean about it, just not as serious as you wanted him to be about something unimportant.

>to have expected a few comments saying "That sounds awful! He sounds like a jerk, so I'm not buying his book."

He doesn't sound awful, or like a jerk.

And I wouldn't have even know he or his book existed if you hadn't made this ridiculous thread.

All you've done is advertise for him.

>I've been doing pretty well putting this story out of my mind for a long time. Not all the time, but I'm no longer crippled by it.

>but I'm no longer crippled by it.

I feel sorry for you if something this small can fuck you up so seriously.

Never read I Have No Mouth if you value your sanity.

Despite that though, the longer this thread goes on the more I start to find this whole thing funny instead.

You need to recognize how inconsequential this story is, how overblown your reaction has been, and just find a way to forget about it.

It already got you worked up over a random story on the internet, made you complain to the author about nothing, and "attack" him by inadvertently advertising his work in a desperate attempt to make him out to be a cunt.

Nothing good is coming of you taking this work of complete fiction so deadly seriously, so just let it go.


 No.89931>>89934

>>89929

I've already made an argument against every point you're trying to make, so I don't think I need to say anything else. If you don't understand what I'm trying to say by now, you never will. You're wasting your energy.

I really need to get used to there being at least one person on the internet arguing against basic human decency.

I looked up a synopsis of I Have No Mouth. It does sound pretty horrible, and I'll never read it, but I'm sure it wouldn't fuck me up or anything. It doesn't have anything to do with any of my personal issues, so...


 No.89932>>89935

Not your personal army


 No.89934>>89935

>>89931

>If you don't understand what I'm trying to say by now, you never will.

I fully understand, but you're not willing to admit that you might be wrong about whether or not the guy is a jerk.

You're fully committed to his status as an asshole being 100% scientifically proven truth, based on nothing but your own opinion.

No matter how many people here tell you that you were the only one acting in any way out of line, he will always remain the bad guy in your mind because he didn't take the story as seriously as you did.

He's not obligated to do so.

He doesn't have to deal with your issues just because you wrote him a message.

Why did you even feel the need to bother the author for reassurance that everything was going to be okay when everything ended okay?

Don't force your problems on others and then get mad when they don't want to help.

They aren't required to do so and no one expects them to.

It's nice of them if they do so yes, but not doing a good thing doesn't necessarily make you a bad person.

>You're wasting your energy.

On someone as narrow-minded and stubborn as you?

Clearly.

I hope you can work your way through this, but don't expect to get help just because you asked someone.

That's not fair to them.


 No.89935>>89936

>>89934

Believe me, you're misunderstanding so much it's ridiculous. I really don't know how else I can explain it to you. Try rereading the thread? I dunno.

>>89932

I didn't expect you to be. I wanted people to know about this, now they do.


 No.89936

>>89935

You're insane, seek certified professional help


 No.89937>>89938 >>89989

so furries hate people with PTSD now?

thats cool


 No.89938>>89940

>>89937

You don't get PTSD from reading


 No.89940>>89944

>>89938

ok maybe not the legal defintion, but it sure sounds like it


 No.89944>>89947

>>89940

If you get ptsd from reading a story then you should have a long hard look at your sheltered life because its pathetic. Then to get mad that the author didn't immediately change his entire story to fit one person's tastes because that one person was afraid for a character. Then to be morally outraged at the entire genre of that type of erotica because it's cruel?

Honestly it's all such a joke, OP keeps saying you shouldn't make fun of people's psychological problems no matter what caused it but sometimes in life you just need to really be introspective and look at things like this from the outside and realize that YOU are the one who is being ridiculous. It's a part of growing up. It sounds like OP is a teen probably and hasn't matured yet to the level of being able to deal with this sort of stuff.

It's a perfect time to say

GROW UP

Because that's really what it boils down to, his feelings got hurt and then hurt again when the author didn't care about some stranger on the internet's feelings. It's really just seems like a case of him not being mature enough to be able to handle that content and really highlights the difference between adults and kids


 No.89947>>89979 >>90049

>>89944

I really don't know what to say. If you really want to help me, insults and rants won't work.

I didn't tell the author to change the story. I don't know where you got that idea. Is that the "entitlement" you keep talking about?

I just hope that other people look at what you've said and come to their own conclusions. I don't even think I can even say what I think. There's so many obvious things I can respond with that I'm drawing a blank.

I can't even decide whether or not I should tell you how old I am. If I do or I don't, you or somebody else will draw some conclusion about me that's probably wrong. There's been a lot of wrong ideas about me here that I haven't even said anything about. I don't think I should even drop a hint if you got my age wrong or right.

It doesn't help that I'm not sure how many people I'm talking to.

I don't know, I'd rather not even respond at all, but then somebody would jump on that too. It's a catch-22 no matter what I say.

Ah, fuck it, I'm done with thread. Feel free to call me a pussy for running away from an argument I can't win. I'm just fucking bored as hell right now. I got people's attention, and while the response isn't quite what I wanted, I'm sure there's people reading that get what I'm trying to do here. I guess they're just not commenting or something. I'm too convinced that there's good in the world to think otherwise.


 No.89979

>>89947

Where did I use the term entitlement? And for that matter if you didn't want the author to change the story or cater to you then why did you message him about how it upset you? Was it just to vent?

What exactly do you want out of any of this? You acted like a child who got upset at something and instead of just ignoring it like an adult it fundamentally hurt you. So you messaged the author to explain how you a random person on the internet were deeply upset by his story, and when he was anything but completely sympathetic and apologetic you were upset even more. Then you said yourself that you insulted him yourself and got angry all the while he just acted sarcastically and seemingly didn't let it get to him.

Frankly it doesn't matter how old you are, in fact it slightly does because if you're older than 20 and you haven't reached a basic level of maturity that would allow you to even handle a fictional expansion fetish story on the internet then that's really sad. And the only misconceptions in this thread about you are because we anonymous users of /fur/ don't know anything else about you than what you've presented and everything you've presented is that of an immature possibly unstable person who can't handle fiction.

Now I'm being a bit mean here but it's annoying that you're trying to act above it all when you're clearly very invested in this. What exactly did you want out of this thread? Everyone can see you're being unreasonable here, you should take the hint and reflect on it.


 No.89989

>>89937

What's more likely, being so mentally ill you develop PTSD after reading a comic or being an attention whore?


 No.90049

>>89947

>I'm sure there's people reading that get what I'm trying to do here.

Go ahead and tell yourself that if it makes you feel better, buddy.


 No.90050

>>89616 (OP)

>To this very day, I cringe in terror whenever I think about it or try to read it again, and yet several scenes arouse me to the point where I still return to them in my mind over and over again, trying hard to change it in my mind so that it’s not so scary.

Okay, so you're hyper emotional and get overly attached to characters and don't have the self control to just ignore things that you don't like.

>I don’t always manage to do it. It’s sometimes like an old drug addiction that makes me feel horrible, and I’m still not doing a perfect job of dealing with it.

Yes, no self control.

It's honestly kinda messed up that you'd compare something like this to a drug addiction where chemicals are being used to hook people, and you just can't say no.

>You see, there was a brief period in my life when I was actually fearful of my sexual urges- specifically, of my urges taking hold of me and not letting me live a normal life.

I'd be afraid too if I had so little control over my actions.

>“Contraindications” came out at exactly the wrong time. And when it went on a long hiatus, I was almost going mad worrying about how the story would turn out.

Oh man, I think I read this book.

It's called Misery right?

>Matt spends most of the story feeling afraid... ...which is hardly satisfying for any hyper fan.

A whole bunch of things used to give the story conflicts like any good story needs, that you didn't like, but didn't stop you from reading because you have no control over your dick and needed to jerk off to it.

>It’s only when we realize that it’s a movie being filmed that we FINALLY learn that Matt is going to be okay.

Oh good, you got a cheap excuse to make everything okay in the end.

I think it's kinda lame to use an "It was all a dream" tier ending, but at least you don't have to worry about the chara-

>THIS IS IN THE LAST FEW PARAGRAPHS.

Oh, of course it wasn't good enough for you.

>And what did I get when I told the author that I was afraid he was going to explode, hoping for reassurance and sympathy? He mocked me. HE MOCKED ME.

Yeah, I wouldn't take someone that did that seriously either.

>And when I told him flat out that he was being cruel

He wasn't.

>Tube/Pen Darke is a jerk.

He's not.

>A cold, heartless jerk who likes to torment and abuse his characters.

I guess every horror writer/director is an inherently terrible person then.

I'm saving this for copypasta, it's fucking hilarious


 No.90056

Reading the story now and op is an idiot. The warning signs are right there in chapter 3 that otter guy isn’t a good person when he fucks the straight dude. Of course it was gonna get worse from there. And that’s fine on Tube’s side; he wrote a fetish horror story and made that clear early on. Good for him! Op is just being a cunt at this point.


 No.90137

>>89637

>Getting traumatized by a story.

HAHAHA the author wasn't mean enough holy shit fucking kill yourself you stupid nigger.


 No.90214

kill yourself OP


 No.90283>>90405

>>89908

OP, I'm the poster who asked for this. Thanks for providing. Yes, Tube was mercilessly sarcastic. But I don't think he was trying to be cruel. He probably assumed you were a troll.

Here's the bottom line: this message board, like most message boards, is not a good place to get help, or to have people ease your fears and comfort you. This is the wild and wooly internet, where people in general are frequently harsh critics. I won't be harsh, but I'm about to be firm. Here's what you need to do:

This story terrified you. That's understandable. It's time to make your best effort to discard it. It's not reality, and it's not a fantasy you want. You can't un-read it, but it's just words some guy put down, and you can find a better fantasy. It's time to go out, find one of the furry story archives, and look for a story you might enjoy. And if any stories you find begin to turn dark, don't hesitate to just quit reading right then and there. I'm sorry that I can't point you to any stories about your fetish, because your fetish isn't one of mine, but good stories are out there to be found.

You'll get the best of this board if you just dump this thread and go off on your own. These people won't help you.


 No.90287

It feels like I find muscle growth fluff stories all the time on FA. Check some of those out OP! There's probably a category for it even.


 No.90405

Same poster as

>>90283

Here, did a search for you. Have a look here, pages and pages of the stuff:

https://www.sofurry.com/browse/search?search=%23Muscle+Growth

Don't forget to read the tags. And if a story turns dark, even if you've been enjoying it, remember that NOTHING obligates you to keep reading it as it does so. Close that shit and find another story. Or, if you're into creative writing, open your notepad app and start writing the rest the way YOU want it to go.




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