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 No.87026>>87027 >>87032 >>87043 >>87045 >>87095 >>87634 >>87838 [Watch Thread][Show All Posts]

http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/8930934/

http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/8931736/

One of the biggest drama magnets of the past few years wants to create a new, drama-free furry site. Discuss.

 No.87027

>>87026 (OP)

Any site that's made and controlled by JasonaCuck is a terrible site, end of story.


 No.87032

>>87026 (OP)

Not going to work out at all. Not because of the owner, but because there's no incentive for the fandom to talk about non-drama stuff.

The issue lies with the fact that people get easily get rewarded for stirring shit instead of creating inoffensive stuff. As a result, you see more people trying to get more clout through that method. It's exacerbated in social media sites like Twitter and Mastodon since they reward the shit stirrers with likes, views, and RTs.

If I wanted to encourage civility and discourage drama, then I would only encourage creations over discussion. I would force users to communicate via media they created by hand. That'll just lead into a dead platform though since they can easily go onto other sites that don't give them the legwork.


 No.87041

haha. nobody realizes that IMVU owns furaffinity,


 No.87043

>>87026 (OP)

Imagine what the moderation will be like on that site after it shuts down mysteriously a few monthes after the donations jasonacucks begged for just so happened to not be enough to keep it running


 No.87045>>87164

>>87026 (OP)

avoiding drama is impossible since drama is the method furry uses to sublimate and distract from their terrible class tensions and the tensions inherent in an identity-substitution exercise by rich kids.


 No.87046>>87050 >>87914

This might not be entirely relevant, but eh.

Personally I'm all for another site being made, but one that incorporates the best aspects of all the other sites, rather than just try and be a clone of FA with a different degree of policed speech, which is all I feel jason and whatever close friends he makes mods would be able to pull off.

Personally I feel the best set of circumstances we can hope for are "boomer" furries as the lead admin/mods, ones who are legitimately far removed from the petty drama and are just there to draw and view artwork, an access wall similar to exhentai to filter out most normal/newfags, a strict/open for edits and additions tagging system like inkbunny and e621 (less for shit like twys, and more just making sure it has relevent info, especially for blacklists.) And no inherent content restrictions outside of stuff like IRL porn, (the people browsing the site should be adults, and shouldn't need to have content policed for them, if they don't like something, block it and move on, if they can't handle the idea of a website allowing something they disapprove of, they can leave.) And lastly a donation based funding system, similar to IB.

Would it be perfect? For everyone? No, but at the very least, for those who are in it for the art, and specifically the art, it would be stable.


 No.87047>>87050 >>87164

>create a new, drama-free furry site

I think an effective way to reduce some of the drama is to properly tag posts and MAKE BLACKLISTS MANDATORY, especially if you have a problem with some questionable content.


 No.87050>>87069 >>87164

>>87047

This seems to work on Inkbunny. Haven't heard of any drama from there.

>>87046

Seconding boomers, they're from an older generation who isn't deeply attached to drama.


 No.87069>>87072

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>>87050

InkBunny is pretty darn "based" (as the kids these days are fond of saying).

https://wiki.inkbunny.net/wiki/The_Inkbunny_Philosophy


 No.87072>>87074

>>87069

Kinda sad how that's more or less the "perfect" furry site to use, but people let petty shit like "them allowing cub" be the deciding factor to settle with half broken, drama filled sinking ships like FA.


 No.87074>>87077 >>87078 >>87079 >>87105 >>87572 >>87914

>>87072

Any artist who does cub or feral art should be banned from all furry sites, it is NOT petty shit, no one should be subjected to being exposed to such art. You're obviously a cub degenerate, so you have something to lose by this.


 No.87076>>87153

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After a few years of using Pixiv I think it works as an extremely efficient tool for basically precisely what the journal talks about - I've found and watch hundreds more artists on Pixiv due to its mixture of social-media-sharing and content-submission as compared to the likes of FA and IB. On FA, finding new artists basically comes down to browsing tags that interest you, and while IB has a Popular tab, it is largely occupied by the same top artists day in. Of course, the thing about Pixiv is it has all of this, too - comprehensive tagged searching (including many official tags, which all have entries for clarification on what fits) and popularity metrics, including within tags but unfortunately locked behind a premium price.

Where Pixiv diverts is its primary page of distilling content, the Stacc, uses a metric of recent favourites and posts. It creates a scenario where you're not necessarily just following artists, but if you follow other users that follow the same type of art that you are most interested in, you will more readily see that type of art through favourites and other's watches. After a few years of using Pixiv, my feed has become so finely tuned that the only time I ever see something disrupt its flow is a really big and new meme, and even then it's just temporary.

Of course, the downside to this system is that it creates an information bubble much like other social medias, but it's not like the dA system isn't an inherent solution to that problem anyway. I've built a bubble where I very rarely see JP bara stuff, but at the same time there could be many great artists I'm missing out on because they do pseudo-bara stuff.

I don't think it would be such a bad thing for the Western art community to adopt similar structures and ditch the deviantArt-esque design that has really held us back for a while.


 No.87077>>87081

>>87074

This is tremendously silly.


 No.87078>>87081 >>87164

>>87074

>Furry artists should be banned from furry sites for doing furry shit

Excellent logic there anon

And no, I'm neutral towards cub, but it does crack me up how rape, torture, murder, feral, sexism, racism, etc are all overlookable, but cub's the thing that breaks the deal with most.


 No.87079>>87081 >>87246 >>87283

>>87074

Drink bleach nigger, people like you are one of the biggest problems in this fandom.


 No.87081>>87089 >>87095

>>87077

>>87079

I know we'll never get rid of pedophiles, zoophiles, and abuse fetishists. I've been seeing this shit all over the fandom for well over a decade now. It'll never end, trust me, I know.

Yet, if this popufur does get any traction with his project, I absolutely do want some standards set. Just because a majority of people turn a blind eye to degeneracy does not make it acceptable in the slightest. You can have all your abysmal fetishes on FA and inkbunny. I guess I went too far by saying I want them banned everywhere, so I'll take that back. Even sick fucks need a safe haven, case in-point.

>>87078

I never disregarded any of those things. The absolute worst thing about the fandom are the extreme fetishes. Some are tolerable, some shouldn't be.


 No.87082>>87083 >>87282

>>87080

>Sick fucks

>Pedo

Oh yeah, it's not like I haven't heard that one before. Come up with something new.


 No.87083

>>87082

>triggered and redpilled

try again next time


 No.87084>>87086

I think there should also be a no whining about the content policy as well, because if we don't have that policy, then we'll be making the same mistake as FurryNetwork.


 No.87086

>>87084

Simple, get it right the first time and there will be no mistakes. You're either in or you're not.


 No.87089>>87094

>>87081

Never said you did, I was speaking in a general sense. And if that's your ideal furry community, just stick with twitter, they seem to share your values.


 No.87094>>87096 >>87111 >>87914

>>87089

> just stick with twitter, they seem to share your values.

Are you implying that furries who don't want to associate with pedophilia, zoophilia, physical abuse, and rape are leftist plebeians? Besides, I don't use twatter.

Since when were any of these fetishes nothing but an eye-sore to the majority of furries?

You can be defensive all you like, but seriously, ask your average furry if they tolerate any of that shit just because they have to; because I'm sure a majority of furries would like those artists to fuck-off for all eternity.

Don't worry, no one's taking away your websites.


 No.87095>>87101 >>87175 >>87284

>>87026 (OP)

If he's anywhere in the power structure it would just be a hug box for him.

Also nice buzzword salad that sounds good and is in every pitch for every shit idea or product that people make where it's blatantly obvious that the exact polar opposite is the intention.

>>87081

<I never disregarded any of those things. The absolute worst thing about the fandom are the extreme fetishes. Some are tolerable, some shouldn't be.

I got this same exact bullshit from the pedo apologists in the Lavadog thread, they throw "what about this?" at you and/or claim the entire fandom would evaporate if you had any kind of standards.


 No.87096

>>87094

Chill, not every reply's a hostile attack on your character. I suggested twitter because they're also vocally against things like feral, cub, rape, etc, and prefer to keep things relatively "simple", not because of any underlying political implications.


 No.87101>>87163

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>>87095

>a pedo said this once, you must be a pedo too!


 No.87105

>>87074

Reminder that IB has no drama because outrage mob members like you have no power. Don't like it? Then grow up and ignore it.


 No.87106>>87107 >>87111

What about a furry art site where the 5 artists with the most watchers get to be the owners/moderators and create the rules?


 No.87107>>87151 >>87163

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>>87106

How about we pick the people with the most skill in managing a site, to run the site? You know, instead of dumbasses that are popular?


 No.87111>>87163

>>87094

>Don't worry, no one's taking away your websites.

Absolutely false.

If a run of the mill twitter clone isn't safe, I doubt some furfag site will. It'd only take one serial rapist or mass shooter posting a couple of times for any free speech site to get their hosting revoked.

>>87106

It would be even worse than the existing degenerate cesspits of sites.


 No.87119>>87132 >>87136

JASONAFUCKEX WANTS TO MAKE A WEBSITE SO ALL THE FURRY ZOOPHILES CAN DELETE THERE ACCOUNTS AND NOT GET RATTED OUT TO THE POLICE BY FA AND DRAGONREEEEEEE.


 No.87132>>87140

>>87119

go back to bed DarkShadowFox


 No.87136>>87138 >>87141

>>87119

>THEIR*

Nah, as long as everything is archived, we'll have enough proof. FA isn't going down anytime soon.


 No.87138>>87139

>>87136

>we

and by "we" you mean?


 No.87139>>87152

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 No.87140

>>87132

ok :C


 No.87141>>87163

>>87136

aw but i wanted to see dragoneer go to jail for fucking someone under 18/ being in a relationship.


 No.87151

>>87107

grayon.


 No.87152

>>87139

and by that you mean?


 No.87153

>>87076

can you draw more bird hentai of this little twinky boy. i adore birds.


 No.87163

>>87101

>a pedo said this once, you must be a pedo too!

Step 1. Go back to school.

Step 2. Study reading comprehension, do not leave till you pass.

Step 3. Reread my post.

Step 4. Kill yourself.

>>87107

>>87111

Should we tell them how things actually "work"?

>>87141

You do know that just because FA may still exist DOESN'T mean Dragoneer is automagically safe right?


 No.87164>>87195

>>87045

Hey, it's rhe guy who thinks most furries are wealthy! I remember you!

>>87047

Hell yes. That'll go a LONG way.

>>87050

The most drama InkBunny has had were Roarey Raccoon posting soapboxing about how dumb he thinks every concept he ascribes to liberals is, in the form of posted art, then having an explosive temper tantrum about censorship when mods warn him (and his staunch supporters like Pierce) to cut that shit out and leave the political rants out of a site expressly made for fandom-related material.

>>87078

Yep. Rape art? Fine. Hard vore? Fine. Torture? Fine. But cub art, somehow, crosses a line the others don't!? I think it's silly to act as though artists who draw rape or snuff can be doing nothing but drawing art and people who fap to it can be only delving into fantasy, yet artists who draw cub (and people who view it) MUST be actual pedophiles.

I'm not trying to be an apologist or pull out the "whataboutism," this is a serious thought: to those who think this way, why are snuff, rape, torture, etc. just fantasy fetishes, yet *everyone* who draws or faps to cub can only be a real-life oedo?


 No.87175

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>>87095

>If he's anywhere in the power structure it would just be a hug box for him.

>He wants to be nuDragoneer


 No.87195>>87200

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>>87164

>Yep. Rape art? Fine. Hard vore? Fine. Torture? Fine. But cub art, somehow, crosses a line the others don't!? I think it's silly to act as though artists who draw rape or snuff can be doing nothing but drawing art and people who fap to it can be only delving into fantasy, yet artists who draw cub (and people who view it) MUST be actual pedophiles.

Because this fandom loves to play favorites and is FULL of double standards, we have to remember that a large amount of people in this fandom seems to forget that if cub was illegal, then the sites that allows cub would've been seized by the feds. However, instead all we have are a bunch of "know it all" who think they know the law or who think they're the law by citing a shitty law to scare everyone. Instead of bitching, whining, and bullying cub fans, report it to the fed you dipshits. I mean come the fuck on, enough with this "cub is pedophilia" bullshit, let the feds handle it.


 No.87196>>87199 >>87200

And if you're so sure of yourselves that cub porn = child porn, then go here: https://www.fbi.gov/tips. I don't see what's stopping you guy's. Put up or shut the fuck up.


 No.87199

>>87196

FBI is a US site, not a Canadian one...


 No.87200>>87203

>>87195

Pretty much.

>>87196

The guy who goes by "Insane Kangaroo" tried this. He got some sites to dump cub art, and got InkBunny to lose its payment system, but his stated goal was to get FBI to shut down any site permitting cub art, and that didn't happen. No idea what he's up to these days, but it likely still includes bombarding the FBI's website with demands like this.


 No.87203>>87211

>>87200

>likely still includes bombarding the FBI's website with demands like this.

Top kek. Well inkbunny has been online for over 8 years and I'm guessing that the feds don't care about drawings of animal children. I mean they have more important things to worry about, such as the real deal when it comes to underage content. Also, why is it that there's more human Loli/shota art sharing platforms? Considering that is flirting with the legal/illegal line even more. All I have to say to Insane Kangaroo is, "quit wasting your time, the feds obviously don't give a fuck."


 No.87207

And before anybody says, "hurr durr, loli sites are in Japan" Not all of them and there's also western loli and rule34 sites that have underaged characters as well.


 No.87210

ZOOAFFINITY> JASONA DOG FUCKFEST AT NEXT CON FROM WEBSITE RREEE>


 No.87211>>87212

>>87203

they do, they quitetly use the site to fish out the real pedophiles and snag them up. why so many people go dormant. :) drugs zoophillia or pedophilla.


 No.87212>>87217

>>87211

But what about Gore/Snuff art? Are law enforcement fishing out serial killers as well? Come on fam.


 No.87214>>87215

How the hell do you plan on everyone having upcoming exposure for artists? There's literally thousands, some are eventually going to get left in the dust


 No.87215

>>87214

I think that a good solution would be to fulfill a particular medium/niche that furry websites are weak at. Sofurry attracted writers, so it would be pretty smart of them if Jason had a website that either hosted animations, 3d models, and games. Sketchfab doesn't permit pornographic models, but his website potentially can. He could get additional traffic from a non-furry crowd too.


 No.87217

>>87212

yeah fam fam, guchimang


 No.87227>>87230 >>87239

I like how I made one post about art submission policy, and a bunch of pedo/zoo defenders came out of the woodwork. Then they said, "Well what about this-?". Well, we've had one 'furry' murder case so far, several 'furry' pedophiles, as well as the zoosadism group which murders and rapes animals.

One thing in common all these individuals shared was furry art in the form of their particular fetish. An online art community has the right to censor shit that they don't want to associate with; using their services is a privilege, not a right to free speech.

The basis for creating a new platform is to weed out the political bullshit that has been invading every corner of the U.S. I think it's also a good opportunity to preclude extreme fetishes like cub porn, feral porn, gore, and murder. The art policy needs to be done right the first time, lest it end up like a FurryNetwork v.2.0

All you cub and doggy diddlers can bitch and whine about 'muh fursecution', but a majority of furries fucking hate seeing all the vile, fetishized art mixed in with the rest. Seriously, nothing ruins my day more than browsing on FA, only to see a piece of art from one magical individual -where a furry chopped his balls off and put them in a blender. I suuure wanted to see that, isn't that just nice?


 No.87230>>87232

>>87227

Easy solution......use a Tag-Blocker.

Inkbunny has it, Furrynetwork has it. Furaffinity could use it.

If people could finally grow up and be Adults and use the system as intended, there would be zero issues.

What, don't like that its allowed? Then be an adult, and leave the website.

Easy solutions, but dumbasses want to be retards


 No.87232>>87240

>>87230

An even easier solution is to make a new platform where O(n) users don't need to filter out the absolute-most disturbing shit because of a select few deranged individuals. A new site would have no effect on current furry artwork sites, so what's the problem?


 No.87239

>>87227

Kill yourself sandnigger.


 No.87240>>87242

>>87232

Because (unless you're making a booru or something) it would be a waste of time/money, and the site'll eventually die out and/or only have an irrelevantly small, niche community.

>Lol this pedo defender thinks cubs are that important (because apparently the only way you can disagree with a stance like yours is to love cub)

No, many would be turned off by the general principle of bans based on nothing but the admin/specific community members personal tastes and disagreements. Sure, you'll get people that agree with them and want to stick around because of that, but that isn't going to be a vast majority of people, especially if one of your examples is going after something as broad as feral, that's easily at least half the overall fandom.

Now if your/their only goal with something like that is to make an echo chamber for people who feel and think the same way (you) do, more power to ya, but if it's being done with the aim of being one of the next big furry sites, it's doomed from the start.


 No.87242>>87249 >>87914

>>87240

> bans based on nothing but the admin/specific community members personal tastes and disagreements

Have open polls before the project begins development, majority vote wins. Don't like it? Don't join. It's that simple. You already know how the votes would go in regards to this topic.

You're implying that a furry website will 'fail' for whatever reason, if it doesn't allow the most extreme fetishes. DeviantArt is doing pretty well with their 'no porn' rule, go figure.

I don't think it's a waste of time to try and strive for a better community than the current state of the fandom. People like you don't want to see positive changes, you're happy with the way things are because it suits you.


 No.87246

>>87079

>hating pedophilia makes you the bad guy

More chlorine gas attacks at furry cons, please. You deserve it.


 No.87249>>87253 >>87276

>>87242

>Have open polls before the project begins development, majority vote wins. Don't like it? Don't join. It's that simple. You already know how the votes would go in regards to this topic.

That's basically the scenario I described, it'll appeal to people, sure, but not a large enough group for the site to be anything other than one of the dozens of specific niche boorus.

>You're implying that a furry website will 'fail' for whatever reason, if it doesn't allow the most extreme fetishes.

"the most extreme" is incredibly subjective, for you it's cub and feral, for another it's rape and incest, and another it's gore and vore, etc. On their own, sure, most are niche and inconsequential, but put em together and you have a pretty wide majority of the fandom, so yes, if the aim is to make a successful furry website while also walling off most furries, it's doomed to fail.

>DeviantArt is doing pretty well with their 'no porn' rule, go figure.

"No porn" simply means nothing directly "sexual" (ie actual sex/penetration, masturbation, etc), outside that it's open season. There's still a myriad of disgusting and "extreme" fetishes allowed on that site. Not to mention DA was never directly an explicit adult art/fetish site, nor does it even make up a majority of the posts, so of course they'll be fine without it.

>I don't think it's a waste of time to try and strive for a better community than the current state of the fandom.

You're right, it isn't, however doing so by trying to force out a majority of it doesn't work, you're better off splintering off with those likeminded people and just making your own sub community.

>People like you don't want to see positive changes, you're happy with the way things are because it suits you.

People like me partake in this as a hobby to draw/look at drawings, and thus don't really care about the deeper "community/lifestyle" aspects of it. We just want a stable site to post and view pics on that has a good tagging and blacklist system alongside a reasonable content policy. It's not that I'm "happy with how it is", cause I'm not, I have my own list of shit I hate having to scroll past, but I choose to ignore/blacklist the aspects of it I don't like and focus on what I do, like I would with anything else.

In short I don't need someone else to police content for me, I can decide what I do and don't wanna see for myself.


 No.87253>>87256 >>87277

>>87249

Polls are going to be rigged or fake as fuck. LMFAO.


 No.87256>>87277

>>87253

This too, unless you honestly believe any large scale, serious online poll's ever legitimate.


 No.87276>>87280

>>87249

Have the site segregated by default similar to how e621 has the sister site e926.net that auto-filters anything not rated safe. Make the front page be SFW then let visitors unblock regular NSFW, then the hard core fetishes (without need to register).

Prerequisite is compulsory strict tagging and rating of important features of the submitted image. Failing to tag useless TWYS autism things like "window" or "floor" is the norm, but failing to tag "eating_shit" or "genital_mutilation" results in punishment.


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>>87253

>>87256

Result will ignored anyway.


 No.87280

>>87276

what about genitals eating shit that mutilate?


 No.87281

>>87277

the person doing the poll is going to do whatever they want, pollls are just for traffic and clicks. also your tits are blocky and look tacked on.


 No.87282

>>87082

its because your deep down inside both.


 No.87283

>>87079

BAWWW my pedophilla cant even be in legal form of diddling furry children.


 No.87284

>>87095

its because they just want to freely fuck animals and engage in pedophillia without fear from the long arm of the law.


 No.87482>>87493 >>87517

In an effort to salvage this thread:

http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/8937322/

Bad publicity is still publicity as the the saying goes.


 No.87493


 No.87512

>>87508

well its because they dont have the backing of the millionare cash cow of imvu it will just become a covert safehaven for zoophiles pedophiles and people who are too freely on FA and sofurry and inkbunny.

anyone whos been black listed from those sites will suddenly rear there head turning the fandom into a danger zone for anyone under 18. its a scary thought.


 No.87517

>>87482

>Most searched keyword that leads people to FA : Jasonafex

...wow. Just wow. His ego could crush a hundred pound titanium block.


 No.87523>>87525

>>87519

pedophiles arent welcome in the fandom, leave.


 No.87525>>87530

>>87523

That's not true, I accept them with open arms as do my friends. Someone has to, or they will act out.


 No.87530

>>87525

i hope everyone keeps your children away from you.


 No.87531

>>87527

children dont deserve to be around you for being sexually attracted to something that doesnt understand and will be taken advantage of no matter the argument.


 No.87532

>>87529

fuck off, go molest virtual children and pray the feds dont make animals under the law of considering child porn, because if i had my way. i would make it child porn id make all loopholes and representations of children child porn so pedophiles stop jerking off to children and go to actual therapy and feel unwelcome in the furry fandom.

because no one likes you leering and jerking off to being sexual about the 20 odd children at conventions like tayferret and like the campanging for sexual interactions with children to be legal and wishing they could "cuddle with all the children fursuiters" at cons,

gross. please leave our fandom.

-DarkShadowFox


 No.87540

>White people: I wanna do this thing. Wait what's that? It's illegal? I guess I better not do it then.

>Everyone else: I wanna do this thing. Wait what's that? It's illegal? I guess I better be careful so I don't get caught then.

I'm not sayin this is always the case, but it's true in most cases. Either way, you should never deny yourself something you want just because some old white guy in a judge's costume says it's "illegal".


 No.87562>>87572

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>mfw thread gets derailed into cub thread.


 No.87572>>87579 >>87581 >>87914

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>>87562

>mfw thread gets derailed into cub thread.

All I said was >>87074

and they came crawling out of the cracks in the floorboard.

They can't accept that the new site likely isn't going to tolerate cub, so they throw a fit.


 No.87579>>87581

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>>87572

>They can't accept that the new site likely isn't going to tolerate cub, so they throw a fit.

Is that what it was? Because from my point of view the arguements/derailing all started when you and another started throwing a hissy fit about how you don't want "the next big fur site" to allow cub, feral, and all the "icky" things (you) personally don't like because the idea of using a blacklist is apparently beneath you.

>B-b-but those sorts of things shouldn't be tolerated, you dumb pedo defender!

Neither should the concept of sexualized animals, and yet here we are, because a vast majority of us are adults, adults who are, or at least should be capable of seperating interests in reality from that of fiction.

>S-shut up you dumb pedo apologist, those things aren't the same! Cubfags get off to the "idea" of young kids, therefore they're just as bad/the same as pedos, anthros are different because they're like adult humans, who can C O N S E N T, so any and all animal aspects are irrelevant!

No anon, no. You can cover up the facts with as many excuses as you want, but at the end of the day what you're into are sexualized animals, only difference between you and a feralfag is you need to doll it up with human traits in order to get the juices flowing and convince yourself it's not the animal it's clearly meant to be, if that wasn't the case you'd just look at humans. As for the whole "you like the idea" crap goes, well shit, all it takes is "liking the idea of something" to be guilty of it/into it for real? I guess all those out of touch boomers were right, violent media is making all of us violent sociopaths ready to pop. I mean why else would we openly welcome and enjoy "the idea" of seeing/partaking in graphic depictions of violence, torture, death, etc, especially when they involve/are done to humans (either real (actors) or fake)? Just because you don't directly jack off to it doesn't mean you don't derive enjoyment and some degree of "pleasure" from seeing it.

Either there's nuance, or everything's a parallel to one another and it's all a big case of guilty by association.


 No.87581>>87583 >>87589

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>>87572

>>87578

>>87579

>mfw thread is still derailed


 No.87583

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>>87581

I'm sorry, anon. They keep defending their fetishes. I'll stop replying now.


 No.87589>>87593

>>87581

There's not too much else to say that hasn't already been said. Jason's a self absorbed popularfag who would run anything he makes into the ground because he only considers what he and maybe his close echo chamber of friends think/feel/likes.


 No.87593>>87594 >>87602

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>>87589

I know, but why does it have to be about cub shit? It's the same arguments every fucking time.


 No.87594>>87595

>>87593

Cause it's an easy target and a low hanging fruit.


 No.87595

>>87594

Well then these fuckers need to grow a few inches more or bring a step ladder and pick something a little higher.


 No.87602>>87608 >>87610 >>87612

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>>87593

Moralfags are trying desperately to justify a substanceless argument based on their personal feelings disguised as interpersonal safety threats to justify harming people who haven't violated anyone else's liberty. Moralfags are trying to redesignate cub fetishism as pedophilia to justify their emotional outrage. "My emotional response to this digusts me so it's like you're attacking me personally, and I demand you cease this!" Instead of rerouting their behaviour towards something more productive, such as ignoring it and leaving the area with such negative stimulus. The important thing is to show moralfags that they have nothing to gain by stating their disgust, they will not change anything. And more importantly, not to engage with the moralfag, because you are not talking to that person's rationality, you are trying to reason with their personal feelings which is a fruitless endeavour.


 No.87608

>>87602

FUCK OFF TODD!


 No.87610>>87611

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>>87602

<such as ignoring it and leaving the area with such negative stimulus.

Let's see here,

>give up territory to child molesters.

>keep territory and remove child molesters.


 No.87611>>87674

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>>87610

>dogfucker in denial accusing other dogfuckers in denial of also being kiddie diddlers

What is it about furries that makes them think this way?


 No.87612

>>87602

I CAN DO ANYTHING!


 No.87634>>87635 >>87636

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>>87026 (OP)

Has anyone called him out on it yet if anyone does I know they'll get banned but it would be a noble sacrifice

But if nobody does say anything here's probably what's going to happen

>Gets forgotten about

Or

>After someone starts calling out Jason

>He'll probably get the mods to ban him or try and respond to the comment

>Other people start calling him out

>He responds to them to but also begins to angrier get the mods to try and ban

>Will proceed to make a tldr journal about him basically complaining that he's getting a lot of hate and that he needs money in his patreon also follows it up with I decided I'm going to go ahead with the website donate to this GoFundMe or patreon

>Newfag Furs immediately besides donate because they don't realize that Jason is a drama whore scammer and all-around shity artist but because he has 100 "animations" out without knowing that all of the art comes from kaiber

>Almost forgot caber writes a journal saying that she's getting really tired of bad press and that her husband and her aren't bad people

>After about 6 months to a year Jason updates saying that either A. It's really too hard to make a website so I'm giving up and I won't be refunding your money I'm just going to use it for my "animations" or B I'm hiring a team to make this website but I need more money to do it I don't progress for going it'll be done in about a year

>If option A happens then we at least know for sure that this will attract bad publicity

>If option b happens then we know that Jason will probably run it as tight as Varcunt runs e621 but will probably after about 2 months or whatever hire a new moderator


 No.87635

>>87634

Ment to say decides


 No.87636>>87641 >>87642

>>87634

source of pic pls?


 No.87641>>87646

>>87636

It's vimhomeless I just cut out the cat's face cuz I like that


 No.87642>>87646 >>88026

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>>87636

This is the exact picture too


 No.87646


 No.87674>>87677

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>>87611

>If you don't accept pedos I'll call you a dogfucker.


 No.87677>>87678 >>88026

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>>87674

Oh quite the contrary, I'll call you a dogfucker regardless, it's just hilarious how closet zoophiles can be so adamant about how "it's not real, it's just a drawing, I wouldn't do it for real" to excuse your fetishes while accusing other degenerates, who do most all the same shit as you, and offer up the same excuses as you, as being the REAL degenerates making excuses.

You can distance yourself all you want anon, you're just as much degenerate filth as the rest of them, I mean you ARE a furry after all.


 No.87678

>>87677

I think you need to check out >>87504


 No.87753>>87761 >>87765

Adult furries = You specifically need anthros to be adults in order to get off = not pedophile

Cub fuckers = You specifically need anthros to be underage in order to get off = pedophile

Pedophile = being sexually aroused looking at underage people

Therefor cubfags are pedophiles, regardless of whether or not you've touched an actual kid or looked at real child porn/shota/loli/whatever. Nuff said, go home everybody.


 No.87761>>87762 >>87763 >>87765

>>87753

Cool, furfags in general are still zoophiles for getting off to animals in any capacity.


 No.87762>>87763 >>87765

>>87761

Stop trying to leech off my post. No one cares if furries are zoophiles or not. What matters if they're bestiality supporters. Notice how there's a difference between the sexual fixation (zoophilia) vs sexual activity (bestiality), whereas pedophilia is the sexual interest in underage children regardless of sexual activity or not. There is no distinction. If you fap to underage people, you're a pedophile.

Cringing over being called a zoophile is stupid. People trying to defend their furfag status: stop it. You're feeding a stupid, pointless convo. You're a zoophile. Get over it. It's not the end of the world.

Now if you fap to furry kids, you're a pedophile, cubfag. Accept your label, otherwise you'll continue to feed this nonsense. Get help or off yourself.


 No.87763

>>87761

>>87762

dogfuckers suicide yourselves


 No.87765

>>87762

>>87761

>>87753

Who fucking cares, take it somewhere else >>87748


 No.87838>>87842 >>87843

>>87026 (OP)

I like how he's completely oblivious to the fact he causes all of his own drama.


 No.87842

>>87838

thats what happens when you live off of tax free income. or unreported income hes basically a drug dealer without the illegal materials.


 No.87843>>87844

>>87838

he is legit one of the most retarded people i have ever encountered


 No.87844>>87878

>>87843

i wonder if he even draws his own comissions or has a ghost artist.


 No.87878>>87907 >>87908

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>>87844

He doesn't draw, he traces. He got banned from the TF2 boards when he was caught.

Now he leaches off the only talent in his life who I genuinely think has Stockholm's Syndrome.


 No.87907

>>87878

if you're going to trace something at least make it something that was good in the first place


 No.87908>>87909

>>87878

Where are the traced pieces he uploaded? They don't appear on his gallery.


 No.87909>>87912

>>87908

Probably long deleted by now. Most art sites removed traced worked when there's proof.


 No.87912>>88264

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>>87909

Found it. He actually admits to it here


 No.87914

>>87046

>an access wall similar to exhentai to filter out most normal/newfags

That filters out anyone but obsessed autists, look at wikipedia if you want to see where that leads to.

>>87074

You jack off to pics of naked animal people, as everyone else here.

There's no point in trying to claim the moral high ground in terms of sexual degeneracy.

>>87094

>Don't worry, no one's taking away your websites.

Hi Anita, the oven is that way.

>>87242

>Have open polls before the project begins development, majority vote wins.

You have polls for A and B, both polls have near 50/50 splits, on average you lose 75% of potential users right there because they don't like the result of at least one poll.

Your proposal ends up catering to the tiny minority of NPCs that always side with the majority opionion, and that's assuming you won't fake the polls.

>>87572

>"I only derailed the thread with my moralfagging, and then people called me a dumbfuck. How could this happen to me?"


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>>87677

>W-well I'd still call you a dogfucker.

I wouldn't give rights to a dumb animal. What makes you think I'd think of one highly enough to want to fuck it?

But I'll humor you, procure me a dog that looks and acts like the furry in >>87642 for example.

If you can I'll gladly take the title and the waifu, however if you can't I don't and you have to kill yourself while live streaming it.

Either way I win, the best you can do is status quo* or at worst for you (have I mentioned this would also be a win for me?) removing yourself.

Do you REALLY want to take that challenge?

*That still doesn't stop me shitting on pedophiles, actually thinking about it more would give me more power to go after pedos since the animal people would be real and have children that need to be protected from the likes of you.


 No.88264

>>87912

More ridiculous stupidity from this guy. Not that I'm the slightest bit surprised.


 No.88269>>88271 >>88303

>>88026

What challenge is there to take? You already lost. Zoophilia in and of itself is an "attraction to animals" it doesn't differentiate between a mindless feral mutt or an anthro furry, both are still "animals", bestiality, on the other hand, IS specific to actual animals, but that was never part of the debate. So if you want to ride the "cub's pedophilia" train because cubs are "young" fine, but on that same page you can't then 180 and deny the term "zoophilia" because the "animals" you get off too aren't the same as other animals.

>N-no, an attraction to anthro is an attraction to human adults, so it's not zoo.

Then there wouldn't be a need for the animal head, tail, hands, feet, mannerisms, etc if the animal traits/aspects played no part in the appeal.

I couldn't care less if you continue to shit on them, that doesn't change who you are, or the deeper implications of what YOU'RE into.


 No.88271>>88274

>>88269

does anyone in this debate of zoophillia or pedophilla make valid arguments or are we just going to make fantasty arguments esp about pedophillia that seem to have no understanding of how the real world works.


 No.88274>>88303 >>88342

>>88271

Not really, no. At the risk of seeming like I'm pulling the "I was just pretending" backpedal, I flipped the logic and arguments in the zoo posts because of/to make an example of how all anyone ever has are personal/gut feelings, "proof and evidence" based on one or two scattered events, or the good ol "you like the IDEA of it in fiction, so you'd like the same in reality too, ie all shit, baseless arguments.

The only "valid" argument is that issues like this are nuanced. There's indeed people who are guilty by association, but to pretend they're the gold standard because you don't like that subject matter's juvenile. There's no quick, broad brush you can paint any large group with, but since sagefag feels validated in thinking anyone who so much as argues in favor or defense of cub's on the same level as legitimate pedos/ pedo apologists like the ones in the lavadog thread, shit's gonna keep happening and more threads are gonna get derailed.

On that point, direct your sperg fits here, and keep them there sagefag >>87748


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>>88269

>>88274

Your intentions are quite transparent so you're not fooling me on anything pedo.

Also I'm quite aware and have posted in the linked thread, but no I'm not gonna make things easy on you and stay in a dead thread so you can roam around unperturbed.


 No.88320

>>88303

>Your intentions are transparent

>I can't name any of them or prove any of them, but I know you're up to something!

Imagine being this desperate for a villian/dragon to slay


 No.88342>>88374

>>88274

I dont see why anyone would want pedophillia legal. its like going up to a shooting range and saying hey guys shoot me with bullets in the arm, its not favorable for both parties but i guess parahpillias and fetishes will be bestowed to those with mental illness, there is no normal but theres neurotypical the type of guy who buys a house has a wife is straight goes to college holds down a good job bs and then theres mentally bent defending something thats illegal and basically just outright rape and taking advantage of someone mentally and physically due to mental maturity and development or none as lackthere of in non sentient creatures such as animals.

im so glad that all those pedophiles in the church and the fandom get arrested and outed, the faster this fester swath of digustingness can get destroyed the better this nation will become and maybe dogs and children and everyone can get back to playing outside instead of becoming zombies behind a screen while there parents are too afraid to even let little timmy because a pedos right around the corner type deal. i hate it, it feel bad for those kids who never had a 90s childhood and cant even walk to or ride a bike to the corner store and play unsupervised not because i have pedophillic intent but because kids cant be kids anymore there mashed up and pushed into the cookie cutter/ extruder chewed up spit out and then we wonder why they have so many mental issues and bs its because society is so bent and fucked up that no one is safe young old or otherwise. its mental. its why i push people who wants to say this entire country should burn

how the whole thing should go back to how the internet was when it was 140 pages and BBS and phreaking existed where people who were technically knowledgeable or able to use a google search as some 10yo furry can do and find horrific stuff was hidden easier from the eyes and because the connection was slower you had to wait longer leading to curating more BS out of the bad areas. now we have so much policing people bitch and moan about the UK but you should come here we the police and goverments have things lke 702s which is warrantless goverment restriction free powers to spy on people and basicallly do whatever the fuck they want like some bloody matrix shit.

people talk about consipriacies and trying to debunk shit like we can go back in time and take it all back.

how about instead of going back in time we fucking stop it all in its tracks once and fore all and stop it from conintuing on in such large problems in the future.

fuck this society im so irritated i was born in the 90s i feel bad for people born in post IPhone generations because its all handed to them.


 No.88374

>>88342

>I dont see why anyone would want pedophillia legal

That's only some pedophiles suggesting that, and there aren't a lot of them, so (for that reason and countless others) there's zero chance.




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