/fur/ - Furry★

>>78564 (OP)

Why does the artist's request to not reupload their work bother non-artists? Why not just think, 'oh okay, I won't post it then'. Why feel spite towards the artist?

>>81205

I've never personally taken any heed either way (I generally don't share art unless someone's looking for it and I've got much bigger things to hate.) but depending on how you word the request not to repost it's very easy to read ego into it, and showing ego makes it very tempting to do exactly the thing that they're demanding you not do. If you give off the impression you want to sacrifice the convenience of others for your own ego, you're not the kind of person who deserves the positive feeling of having made a desirable thing in the first place. What you need is to be taken down a peg.

But then most furries need to be taken down a peg, so if we had the world I wanted it would be like boiling a bucket of crabs.

>>81213

cringeworthy post. enjoy being king of the hill in a pygmy fandom by associating your work with furries. maybe if people hadn't shared your work you could've deleted everything.

>I have every right to get free shit, fuck the people who make it, they should feel glad to make people happy, fucking assholes can go die if they don't want to give me free shit, how DARE they insist on owning their work!

Typical liberal attitude.

Uploading does not nullify copyright, just as hearing a song on the radio doesn't mean it's suddenly public domain

>free advertising

This is not factual, this is a meme. No one will look at the description, the link back, etc. They don't care. The artist tag on boorus is there to sort more art by that artist, that is all, it's not there to credit them or give them fame. You can bet 95% of people who look at reposted art do not pay attention to or even care who the artist is.

>>81221

Ah, yes, because artists thrive on not expanding their viewer base.

Advertisement is about quantity over quality, my dude. That's why we're bombarded with advertisements constantly, every day, of every thing. It doesn't matter that we get pissed off - it's strictly, factually better for us to know about a product (and be mad at the advertisements) than not know about the product and not be mad at it. The same can be applied towards art - if it's reasonably sourceable (through signature or watermark, for example) then you are only benefitting by more eyes seeing it, even if, just like in regular advertisements, followthrough is only a small percentage of views.

Given your example of 95% not paying attention to or caring who the artist is, then 5% do care, and a 5% growth can very easily range from respectable to enormous.

none of it matters anyway

artists just want to get big so they can sell shit, so collectively fuck em.

i can say this because i want to add a vernier of credibility to my stupid ideas by sticking them in a webcomic and sell shit. i'm up one point!

>>81220

Rights don't exist; fuck your spooks. Read Stirner.

>>81221

Every time my art gets reuploaded onto e6 or even a commissioners FA page, I always see a sudden surge of followers and favourites afterwards. Likewise, if I see something I particularly like reposted anywhere, I try to scope out the artist to check out the rest of their work and even follow them if I like it enough. It's probably one of the best ways to find good artists without having to sift through too much shit. It's free advertising.

>>78564 (OP)

When it comes to this sort of thing, much like memes, I feel the desire for credit defeats the purpose of memes and art to begin with.

>>81213

Whatever.

Just going to do it anyways, especially if I paid for it. What are you going to do to stop me?

>”oh no, you posted the picture on one of like five furry sites that people go to. I don’t like that site ‘cus mods don’t suck my dick for free art like on FA”

Also watermark your shit so other people don’t claim it as their own, dumb ass..

>>81205

It's not really spite, it's more that we aren't even harming them. There's no reason for an artist's work to not be distributed, because they don't stand to gain anything by it not happening. It's not like a movie where illegal copying and "pirating" of the movie means the studio loses a sale. Almost nobody is going to bother to pay money to see some artist's art, when it's not of their character. An artist thinking they can sell a single art piece multiple times like a studio can sell a movie multiple times (and thus they must take steps to prevent people distributing it for free) is fucking insane.

Artists claiming they still retain "copyright" over a piece of artwork after they sell it to someone is also insane. Don't they know that copyright isn't implicit --- you actually have to apply for it and be granted it in a court of law? It's like a patent, not some right that artists automatically get. This goes double when the piece is of the commissioner's character. Nobody would argue that the commissioner DOESN'T own their own character. Well guess what twinkle-toes, that means they own ANY DEPICTION OF THAT CHARACTER. Don't believe me? Well then go ahead and draw a picture of Mickey Mouse, and then call up Disney and tell them that you have copyright on that picture. I'll wait with baited breath.

Artists have way too big egos, especially the non-popufur nobodies as show up HERE, of all places. Don't they realize that they're a dime-a-dozen? Furry art is mostly all the same, and often of very little skill, so every artist is completely replaceable. Maybe if they were also skilled at narrative and could weave a beautiful story as well as great art, they would be worth something. But I can count the number of furry artists that qualify for that on one hand... if I cut off four fingers...

>>81267

No furry nor furry artist has the means to take someone to court over any of this nonsense

If has a terms of service stating who gets what rights and permissions to the art and you agree to those terms when you commission the artist, that is a legal contract. All companies operate this way when dealing with customers where a signed contract isn't possible.

But if you break this contract, a furry artist making 4k a year living with his parents on the otherside of the world isn't going to take you to court.

What will happen is that you'll have trashed your reputation as a client and any artist smart enough to research who they do business with will refuse your commission. If you're an artist, your reputation is even more important and fragile

>>81267

>copyright isn't implicit --- you actually have to apply for it and be granted it in a court of law?

this is going to kickstart a pissing contest amongst amateur lawyers but that isn't true. It's trademarks that require registration, not copyright. Copyright only required registration prior to the 1970s. Mickey Mouse as an example really muddies the waters because he's as much a trademark of disney as he is a copyrighted character. It's not like say Nick Wilde where he's just a character.

that said: agree that furry artists are useless hacks who should make something that has appeal beyond MUH DIK, or accept the fact they're worthless pygmies.

>>81275

>furry artists are worthless trash

>but o-oh please don't take away my furry porn, I need it!

If all furry artists got up and left you'd be begging for them to come back and make your some porn, you call them trash but they're the ones with all the power here

>>81276

maybe if they deleted literally all porn including the stuff i've already saved then i would be mildly inconvenienced. there's far more to life than masturbation.

>>81274

>you agree to those terms when you commission the artist

There's no way to prove they agreed to those terms, though. It's not like when a website uses software to record when you click a checkmark as a "digital signature"; it's just some shit on the artist's user page. The commissioner could just claim the artist wrote up that ToS after the fact. As the claimant in a hypothetical preceding, the artist would have the burden of proof, and if they couldn't prove that the conditions were in some way notarized, the case would be dismissed.

>>81276

If all furry artists got up and left, others would fill the void. There are new artists every single day, and learning to draw furry art takes only a few dozen hours of practice. It's not like if, say, all doctors suddenly quit and getting new doctors would take years.

YOU'RE NOTHING SPECIAL.

>>81322

>learning to draw furry art takes only a few dozen hours of practice.

lol

>someone uploads copyright mtg wallpapers to e621

>flag for deletion re commercial content

>receive a warning on my account for "please use report for deletion for its intended purpose and stop wasting our time"

Um????

>>81340

e6 is cancer, its just a shame it's the best booru out there if you want to find a large quantity of basically anything.

TWYS is bullshit and results in some of the most logic defying tag-locks I've ever seen in my life. Most of their rules are just stupid shit that they only bother to enforce when it suits them anyway.

>>81367

E6 has gone into the shitter over these past few years. people hardly upload new stuff there, power hungry mods. removal of purchased material even if the artist approved, they themselves have to tell the admins yes it's okay to post.

>>81381

reminder to use the mirror;

http://furry.booru.org/

>refuse to give 2 shits about a non-popufur while they're around

>scream "I'm deprived, where can I find their stuff?" if they clear their gallery, IF you even notice in the first place

Why do you suddenly want something you never cared for in the first place? Do you just want to feel like a victim about a thing you didn't want when you had it for 5 years?

That's if anyone notices because non-popufurs get fucked in this fandom. They get little notice, they piss off the popufurs easily by not kissing the right ass, they get drama permanently stuck to them with little effort, and you insult them when they don't like being abused. Then when they have their fill and leave you pretend you don't know why, claim you really liked their stuff and really want it bad all of a sudden.

Trust me, that submission that was posted 10 years ago and has 3 faves, you don't really care. Is the artist taking it down really a big deal?

>>81322

Only popufurs matter to this fandom. If they all quit, you woudldn't give a fuck about the new artists replacing them, because you already do not give a shit.

You're so obsessed with popufurs that if one of them tells you to hate a person and to blacklist that person from the fandom, you do it without question. Honestly, at this point the furry sites should just ban anyone with drama around them who isn't a popufur, the fandom doesn't want those people anyway and they will never be a popufur themselves. They're probably being actively ignored anyway.

Popufurs can take the drama because they still have thousands of fanboys. Non-popufurs don't get the support but they do get the hate.

>upset a popufur long ago

>10 years later people refuse to watch me, fave my stuff, view counts are in the toilet...

The fandom is full of political and social bullshit and manipulation, where watch count = credibility.

>>81524

Don't bother trying to strawman about liking popufurs here, of all fucking places. There's like five threads right now talking about how much we hate them. I know you're a retard with no argument, and don't have a single leg to stand on, but please try a little harder than that.

>The reason nobody likes my art is because of the Furry Conspiracy!!

Sure thing buddy, sure thing. It's so easy and convenient to blame others for your failures, iddn't it? Absolves you of any personal responsibility or need to actually improve or try anything different.