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 No.60878>>60880 >>60902 >>60904 >>60905 >>60917 >>62264 [Watch Thread][Show All Posts]

Why do they support the terrorist organization especially after that time when they killed a police horse? It doesn't make any sense to me.

 No.60880

>>60878 (OP)

Denial.


 No.60887>>60890

>>60884

They're still a bunch of violent cunts who think that punching people makes any kind of effect other than their side look like shitters.


 No.60890>>60896

>terrorist because they guy they hate claims they are

What about the Portland Trump supporter who killed 2 people because they didn't approve of him bullying people, or all the other Trump supporters who have committed violent acts? Are they "patriots" because that lying rapist kike says they are?

>>60887

Nah, showed that Richard Spencer was as much of a pussy-ass punk as Glenn Danzig, he hit the ground about as fast as Fagzig did after that midget fucker got punched. Oh, right, Danzig's also a racist and a Trump supporter, must be common for those people to drop like a sack of hammers if they get gently tapped. That senile old fat fuck deserves weaklings as his supporters.

>inb4 buuuhurt Trump supporter mod bans me for hurting his feelings

worth it!


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>>60884


 No.60896>>60897 >>60917

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>>60884

>pffffthahahaha is this what /pol/tards actually believe? The fact they make you so butthurt justifies their existence.

Antifa's activities were labeled as "domestic terrorist violence" by The Department of Homeland Security

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/antifa-domestic-terrorists-us-security-agencies-homeland-security-fbi-a7927881.html

>>60890

>hurr durr bunshh dey naayzeeee! FUSHHH DRUMFFHHH

>>>/leftypol/


 No.60897>>60898 >>60899

>>60896

This goat's kind of cute. Got more?


 No.60898>>60899 >>60903

>>60897

Artist is Hladilnik, character name is Lucy.


 No.60899>>60903

>>60897

>>60898

anotha one


 No.60902

>>60878 (OP)

>It doesn't make any sense to me

Are you implying that Antifa members THINK??


 No.60903

>>60898

>>60899

That poor goatson just wants a regular, non-sexy mom.

Seriously, though, this is adorable stuff.


 No.60904>>60926

>>60878 (OP)

Because the mainstream media and local governments outright supports them. The same thing with BLM. The Women's March was led by a Sharia Law advocate and they used a American flag hijab in their posters.


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>>60878 (OP)

as the ridiculousness of a political position increases linearly, the chances it will appear on furaffinity increase exponentially.


 No.60913

>>60912

Are you actually autistic?

>bringing up US middle east invasion out of nowhere

>he thinks that's necessary

Seriously, pull your head out of your fucking ass for once.


 No.60914

>>60912

The problem isn't that there's anything wrong with violence. The problem is when you're violent. Shooting someone who's attacking you is perfectly fine. Attacking someone who's done nothing to you is not okay.

Attacking people purely for their political opinions is wrong, simply put.

Especially since you justify action against yourself when you do that shit. It's just dumb, at that point. You're only making it so that might makes right, effectively.


 No.60917

>>60896

>>60878 (OP)

Leftists are liars with no standards whatsoever.

>>60912

>Timeline of alt-right unjustified violence/murder:

Majority of those were hoaxes:

http://www.fakehatecrimes.org/


 No.60919>>60923

>>60916

>What if he's planning to attack me? Isn't that ok? If someone says "I'M GOING TO KILL YOU!" and was about to attack, I really think I should be able to attack first.

Problem is that you have a broad criteria of a threat. It's so broad that your group considers incorrect pronouns and dead naming to be an act of violence, but that's expected of a contradictory group without a moral compass.

>Uh huh...

Except that they said "Jews will not replace us" in a private tiki torch rally.

>But might makes right is completely true. You're misunderstanding the phrase, it doesn't mean that by virtue of being the most powerful everything you do is morally justified, what it means, is that those who are most powerful set the standard of morality for the rest. This is apparent in modern day society when the most powerful such as the media and law enforcement and political parties, "determines" what's right and wrong for the rest of the public, with laws and violence. Some of us are able to think for ourselvs and so we reject their opinions and the opinions parroted by their listeners (the public, et al.)

You have no consensus of right and wrong, you're left.

>>60918

A site that aggregates revisions from the same publication isn't credible, but a reddit post is? How retarded are you?


 No.60920

the very design of the structures of the internet render effective political discussion as good as impossible. people will presume agreement where it doesn't exist and presume disagreement where it doesn't exist. this tendency is then amplified by the tendency to mob, to feel the obligation to "me too!" a given comment, to repeat what has already been said in one's own words.

that i post this will naturally do nothing to discourage pointless political argument and errant group identification in this very thread.


 No.60921

>>60916

If he's planning, you're going to need evidence thereof. And it can't be a vague "HE'S ADVOCATING FOR X", because, again, that applies to you, too.

If he says "I'M GOING TO KILL YOU", that's a direct threat. Best response isn't to attack him, though. Best response is to say that you will defend yourself if he tries. In other words, you'll kill him if he does.

Generally speaking, you shouldn't attack someone over words.

When they get the power to do it, then you can do something about it.

Not before.

Attacking people who've got no power is just a cunt move.

Might makes right is complete bullshit.

The most powerful do not set a moral standard. People group against the more powerful when they try. People of conflicting principles and standards. It's why you have so many non-nazis against you, when you say 'IT IS OKAY TO PUNCH NAZIS'. You confuse systems that have the ability to speak louder than others, for "might". They're powerful, yes, they compel many to their arguments, sure, but it isn't by "might". It's by having a case that they can field.


 No.60922

>>60915

You're the fucking retard who thinks ANTIFA did nothing wrong, The nazis burned down jewish books while ANTIFA burned down neo-nazis flags and confederate flags.

The nazis attacked stores and houses and property owned by jewish individuals, while ANTIFA attacked stores and property owned by non-whites.

Your tiny peanut-sized brain wouldn't face the facts because you won't do a goddamn research before you try to argue.


 No.60923>>60926

>>60918

Majority of those were hoaxes, though. Your refusal to accept evidence does not change that.

>>60919

Personally, I'm not convinced "Jews will not replace us" was actually said by any kind of majority there. Most the time it was just "you will not replace us", with what I'd wager were a few edgelords, and plants trying to muddy things.

But, then, that whole thing was some top grade trash, anyway. Only the militia guys got out of it unscathed.


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It's puzzling to me, many in America immediately jump to defend Antifa and think they're heroes. Almost everywhere in Germany they are regarded as losers and thugs.

Anyway.

Antifa is a far-left anarchist/communist militant group that opposes the state, capitalism, police and such. Violence and vandalism is one of their key tactics, everyone who states otherwise is either lying or doesn't know anything about Antifa.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antifaschistische_Aktion

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooNgZeII_YE


 No.60925>>60926

capitalising "Antifa" is insufferable and i can't fathom why people do it.

what's it an acronym for? "FA", okay sometimes you include two letters in it - so "FA" = "FAscist", or "Fascist Action", but what's "ANTI" an acronym for? ANother Team [of] Insurgents? All Nice Types Incinerate? Also, Nobody Try [to] Invite?


 No.60926

>>60904

>>60924

I think that everyone needs to realize that under marxists, you have no human rights because your entire status hinges on you agreeing with their bullshit while ignoring the things that you've notice. Many of the folks I knew had their bank accounts shut down, thank God that they've invested in cryptocurrency because Bitcoin rose to high levels recently. Those vindictive idiots made them unintentionally wealthy. They will fail repeatedly like they did with removing "discrimination".

To deny a marxism is to be pro-free speech because those cockroaches would do everything they can to deny it to others.

>>60923

Even then, it's not a death threat aimed at them during the time of the scene.

>>60925

I give them the label of "ANTI First Ammendment", because that's what these trannies are.


 No.60927>>60929 >>60930

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>>60924

being British even more puzzling to me is why people care.

antifa seem like even greater nonentities than organisations like the EDL, and for most people in the UK the EDL have always been a punchline and an oddity, not something to talk about day-in day-out.

but Americans and people online just can't shut up about antifa, antifa, antifa. unless they've taken over Australia in a coup and begun shelling New Zealand, they've done nothing that warrants the level of discussion they're getting.

>But muh violence

there have been far more violent events that were given far less internet attention.


 No.60929>>60931 >>60934

>>60927

>there have been far more violent events that were given far less internet attention.

Proof?


 No.60930>>60934

>>60927

Gee, I wonder why americans are talking about a anti-american group that targets them? You don't solve issues by downplaying an active force.


 No.60931>>60934

>>60929

Shouldn't matter since he's in the UK, Antifa wouldn't have a problem with his government as they arrest people for social media posts and not owning a TV license to fund BBC revisionist history. So it makes sense that they wouldn't fuck with UK citizens there.

However, since the US contains laws that serve as a double edged sword while not having an automatic death penalty without a trial for incorrect pronouns, Antifa has an issue with it.


 No.60932>>60937

People still caught thinking that if they "trash the system" it will magically change things and make their lives awesome.

People who think communism benefits everyone and not just the dictator on top.

People who have been brainwashed by their white gated community to think everyone (even those outside) are kind, generous people.

People who would rather see everyone forced to a low rung of equity so long as everyone's "equal" rather than strive to be something in their lives.

Have a smug snake.


 No.60934>>60941

>>60929

I'm not going to give any. Take that as having none if you will, it's not worth the effort.

>>60930

You don't solve issues by talking about them on Twitter, /fur/ and /pol/ either, especially when those issues amount to complaining about LARPers.

This applies the other way around by the way, it's just as bad with people thinking the big bad Alt-Right are death squads. It's childish. And that's my real problem, it's childish. A lot of the time, it's adults doing it - on both sides - but it's so childish, and I'm one of those British people who was born middle-aged.

But I can't lie, I'm jealous of the kind of people who feel some kind of impulse to post on http://www.furaffinity.net/user/antifafurs or http://www.furaffinity.net/user/antiantifa , who feel they have to actively signal their involvement with or opposition to every little thing. the real truth is i should take my own advice and stop caring.

>>60931

satisfy my curiosity - i'm not saying this to judge you, i just want to know: how old are you?


 No.60936

>>60933

There's literally nothing wrong with attacking the government in America. America was built off the idea that you can revolt against an oppressive regime. Now you're just making stuff up to pretend like you aren't the authoritarian bootlicking cuckold you are. You just happen to lust after a different boot.

It's not just liberals. But, your position there does help frame where you're coming from.

Sets you as a scumbucket trashheap who should fuck off to China or some other commie shithole, and maybe learn a thing or two about oppressive regimes.


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>>60932

what if the system is actually garbage tho


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>>60933

>If you support fascism, you deserve it. You make it sound like fascism is whites-only. It's not, sweetie.

Oh sweetie... what a doozie of a fiddly-flap that was. Honestly, Dearie, its ok schnnookums, no need to get cranky wanky in your little pajamy--wammies, did you tinkle your wittle boy undies? Oh lolipop honey muffin, it'll be okay baby bear buttercup sweetie mommy will read you a story and change your diapies so you can stop crying. So show us how much of a big boy you are and don't go kaboom in your baby blanket little sailor big boys dont throw tantrums like that Donny Wonny my little sweetest shnookie dookums butterfly raindrop did you get an outhcie on your butterfly raindrop did you ouchie on your butter baby bottom? Come let mommy put the baby powder on it honey darling sugar plum so you so you won't get a rashy washy on your cheeky weekies mommy doesn't like when her brave little toaster is BABY BOOTY BOTHERED.


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>>60912


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>>60937

Personally, I'd rather live in the US where we are free, than live in a shithole like the UK. Money isn't everything. Especially when you add in cost of living.

And there's also something to be said about how hard it is to actually start your own business in the UK. I mean, what's it really matter if you've got plenty of money, but are still stuck working for someone?

Isn't that something commies always complain about?

Give me a nation with free speech, guns, and the ability to fuck up a crook who breaks into your home any day of the week.


 No.60941>>60944

>>60933

>Excuse you, the entirety of ANTIFA are not the SJW fags, much like how the majority of LGBT are not SJW fags, stop with the guilt by association fallacies. And even then, SJW fags hardly attack random people on the street for using the wrong pronoun. I have yet to see an example of antifa or any SJW shooting up a building or concert for using a wrong pronoun.

Considering that they place people in prison for it, it's only a matter of time.

>Yeah and they attack jews, this isn't helping your case. THere is no fucking le worldwide ancient jewish conspiracy xDDDDDDD

Sorry Moshe, oven jokes on twitter aren't attacks. Additionally, no one states that Jews work collectively. It's a fact that Jews are left-wing activists who anti-nationalists and pro-immigration.

>lol nice ad hominem. Stay mad with your non-arguments.

You admitted to it yourself. You claim that laws aren't determined by laws, but by popular consesus. Which leads to the conclusion that you have no moral compass.

>Yeah and the reddit I posted had sources cited you fucking mong, try reading.

Most of the links didn't contain the revisions, Marxist retard.

>Whats hilarious is you idiots dont understand ANTIFA isnt marxist, and actual SJWs take issue with marxism because it intereferes with IDpol

You're a pendantic idiot.

>This is a strawman and you know it

Stated the person who threw a strawmen about a "jewish conspiracy", don't throw stones from a glass house. You retarded leftist.

>>60934

Shouldn't matter because you're a fence sitter who gave up fighting for their ideals. Your government is their ideal government, not ours, which is why they take issue with it.


 No.60942

>>60905

>Nazis are socialist

>Republicans are socialist

I came here to laugh at you.


 No.60943>>60946

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>>60937

If the system is shit then the best option is to infiltrate the system to eventually control it from the inside out (if you're a citizen that is...). Get shills for your cause, gather masses and money to compete. Then once you have a proportionately sized voting base you become "scary" to these folk. If you forcifully overtake the existing system you may potentially pace the way for an even worse system. Just look at Russia when it went from Tsarist empire, to Lenin's coup, to Stalin taking power. Look at France how they butchered the Monarchy and how it essentially led to a reign of terror by the Vox Populi. Thousands of Innocents were killed in these upheavals. Will your life magically be spared? Are you with or against the machine you are building?

Also, I would argue that graphic is misleading. Wages, on average, in the US are possibly lower but wages in Europe (generally more socialist with more public institutions) are taxed at a higher rate to maintain the larger number of public institutions.

Plus both are in sharp decline so what now?


 No.60944>>60947 >>60949

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>>60940

please stop trying to tempt me into relocating the articles of Americans being arrested for racist tweets.

>And there's also something to be said about how hard it is to actually start your own business in the UK.

and you run your own business, do you?

>>60941

>you're a fence sitter who gave up fighting for their ideals

very presumptive. a more accurate assessment is that i know winning imageboard arguments (or even twitter ones!) does nothing to advance my ideals or ideology, especially since it's not a group identity that i'm identifying with primarily to fit in somewhere.

>Your government is their ideal government

i wish i could occupy a mind as distant from reality as yours. i don't mean that as an insult, you're going to get a lot more enjoyment out of life than i ever will.


 No.60945

>>60937

It's funny that wealthy liberals complain about capitalism, yet rather than using the system to assist the poor, they would rather use their millions to fund anti-Trump PACs and fund anti-Trump media despite them having a HUGE RED BUTTON. If socialism were implemented, nothing would change. They will never make a difference if they are no different.


 No.60946>>60952

>>60943

Taxes in Europe also get the citizens well-maintained infrastructure and universal healthcare and free university tuition and shit. Whereas, in the USA your taxes go to fund the military and for tax cuts for the wealthy.

"Can't afford to get sick" only exists in the USA. What does it matter how little you pay in taxes, if it costs $2000 to fix a single broken tooth?


 No.60947>>60954

>>60944

I've never heard of anyone in America being arrested for 'racist tweets'. Have heard of plenty of stories in the UK, though.

No, but my sister does. I could, if I wanted to. I've already got the basic stuff I need, in fact. But the reason I don't is that I'm hoping to go into politics, so I'd rather not be tied down, and businesses tie you pretty heavy to the ground.


 No.60949>>60954

>>60944

>i wish i could occupy a mind as distant from reality as yours. i don't mean that as an insult, you're going to get a lot more enjoyment out of life than i ever will.

Is it really absurd to think that they wouldn't like a government that enforces diversity in their media while tackling hate speech on social media?


 No.60951

>>60948

Yes, during a time when that wasn't viewed as oppressive. Most nations were at that point. Also, there were measures taken to limit slavery in the United States. It's why slaves were so expensive during the Civil War, and ultimately why it was so vital for the South to keep them. Basically worth their weight in gold.

Ah, sorry, I should've realized:

Child with no principles who thinks that somehow you can be a collectivist totalitarian AND an anarchist.

Stirner's a cuck. I've listened to enough of his stuff to realize that he's basically just saying "Do what you believe is right", with no actual cares for systems in the slightest. Stirner'd have you sit idly in a totalitarian system licking boots all day if it benefited him.

Eh, not really. At best you could argue the West as a whole is liberal. Assuming we're talking more 'classically liberal' than "US left-wing identitarian collectivists".

No communist nation is technically "communist" to you tards, because communism is an idiotic idealistic state that doesn't work with basic human characteristics.


 No.60952

>>60946

The current issues with the economic system is that it is loan based. That, and currency is fiat (or powered by debt). I would be cautious in bringing up debate on healthcare, however, as the open nature of public healthcare does cause an increase in usage. One that does cause increased volume for professional doctors. There is also the fact that doctors get paid so much in the US it is an incredibly competitive position that students of medicine want to become as the lucrative salary for a renowned doctor is more than enough to bait a hook.

Also, with government assistance a good portion of US healthcare is subsidized, essentially acting as a public utility. Ergo, in the US you essentially have two groups: average healthcare and upper class healthcare.


 No.60953

>>60948

>You are no fortune teller, and its no antifa thats placing people in prison.

Why was Cantwell in jail then?

>t. It's my first day on the internet and I don't know what /pol/ is

Nice job describing yourself, because they're talking about how Jews are pro-immigration and anti-nationalist.

>Excuse you, they dont call it "the jewish conspiracy" for nothing.

<Hurr durr, Jewish politicians and media personalities don't exist at all.

You're retarded, keep believing in a strawman if it makes you feel better.

<Zionism don't real

Hey idiot, those Zionists are nationalist with regards to Israel, but they are pro-immigration when it comes to the west like Ben Shapiro.

>stay mad

Your proof is in your ass, considering that you obtained it from reddit.


 No.60954>>60956 >>60957

>>60947

I've not heard very much about Kazakhstan, it still exists.

>>60949

Britain's governing party is lead by a woman who waltzed out to give a speech about how "if you're a citizen of the world, you're a citizen of nowhere", and the government is formed of her party in agreement with massively socially conservative ulstermen (people with a very strong sectarian, christian background, who think the earth was created 4,000 years ago and that line-dancing is a sin.)

if we're antifa pradise we're doing a great job concealing it.


 No.60956>>60959

>>60954

>Britain's governing party is lead by a woman who waltzed out to give a speech about how "if you're a citizen of the world, you're a citizen of nowhere", and the government is formed of her party in agreement with massively socially conservative ulstermen (people with a very strong sectarian, christian background, who think the earth was created 4,000 years ago and that line-dancing is a sin.)

Conservative is a buzzword. They only preserve their philosemitism and the last iteration of liberalism. The US is more right leaning than her.


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>>60954

Okay. Let me put it this way:

I've had people tell me about Unicorns.

I don't think they exist. I've not seen any EVIDENCE for them


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>>60956

I'm not sure if you're getting at Theresa May or the Northern Irish woman.

>>60957

ah yes, daily mail headlines.

will we just go straight into the gutter? i'll get out the Amerimutts.


 No.60960>>60965

>>60955

I agree with that. Which is why it is a good thing slavery was ended.

However; This doesn't mean that the British Empire's regime was less tyrannical than the US system put up after it.

The British Empire was an oppressive regime, that the US rightly fought against.

Just because the US's system wasn't 100% perfect, doesn't make this any less true.

And I'm saying I'd choose western principles of liberty, and'd violently resist either of those two systems.

Besides, this doesn't change that anarchy's a child's ideology.

Human nature's a real thing you cuntbucket.

It ain't a complex item.

We all have our own self interests. We put those interests first.

It's why capitalism works. Because it unites all self interests. It makes the breadmaker and the chairmaker be able to work out a trade, and both benefit.


 No.60961

>>60958

>Or are you referring to someone else?

He was charged with releasing pepperspray, which was dismissed because Edward (emily) gorenski lied in court.

>No they hate the jews, you just dont want to admit it. Seriously how do you not know about the jewish conspiracy narrative?

I'm not denying that they do resent Jews, retard. I'm just stating that it's owed to their anti-immigration and anti-nationalist views in the west. You're stating the effect, but not the cause.

>No.

You're dense, keep believing in your dumb strawman.


 No.60965>>60967

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>>60960

>It's why capitalism works. Because it unites all self interests. It makes the breadmaker and the chairmaker be able to work out a trade, and both benefit.

the next line of the book you're paraphrasing is "but if two breadmakers ever meet, they'll conspire to fuck everyone else over"

not unsurprisingly, capitalism has always worked best when someone is appending patches to the rules.


 No.60966

>>60962

Riiight, because if they failed once at the start, then they totally have no values so we should just accept collectivist identitarianism and go with the bootlicking commies, surrender all our property, and be sent to the fucking gulags or lined against the walls and shot.

Nah, just because the country wasn't 100% perfect when we started out doesn't mean the principles it was founded on weren't good.

But we all have a nature. It's how we evolved, sure, and our environment plays a role, but we do have a basic function. We have a basic greed. We always work towards our own selfinterests first.

Slavery did work, yes.

You know why?

Because it aligned interests. Namely, the slaver got his labor done, and the slaves were not tortured, killed, and still got their food.

>God save the king

>literally wanting a monarchy

lol literal bootlicker who thinks another human is somehow better than you.

How pathetic do you have to be?


 No.60967>>60970

>>60965

Sure, and then when the third breadmaker comes along, sees he can sell his bread at a lower cost than the two cunts and make a ton of profit, not to mention climb his business into relevance despite his late start, he's going to do it.

And then the system continues.

The problem you have is when you start applying shitty restrictions. When you start making it so only one person can have a market, with legislation. Funnily enough, the opposite of what you've said.

Shit like copyright is what encourages monopolies.

There should be no such thing as "intellectual property".


 No.60970>>60972

>>60967

nah, when that third breadmaker comes along the first two use their accrued savings to drive the third out of business if he isn't going to play ball.

see for example the following antitrust case for a real world example:

https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/F2/743/1114/364701/

to surmise

>American airlines boss suggests price fixing to competing airline, since neither is making money at Dallas airport.

>competitor instead records the suggestion and reports it to the antitrust people

>American is sued, but continues operation

>"good" airline who refused to price-fix goes bankrupt anyway, because it was being bullied by a larger, more corrupt enterprise.

i do however share your opposition to copyright. a necessary rule patch in the 1800s perhaps, but now long antiquated.


 No.60972>>60974

>>60970

And then another breadmaker'll come along.

And another.

And another.

And they'll all enjoy the massive pile of money the two moronic breadmakers've lost thanks to dumping all their cash in dangerous business ventures, rather than simply building up product quality and efficient production.

Airliner issues are issues of legislations, I'd argue. Because it's painfully difficult to get into that market, to begin with, due to a lot of safety hoops, and certifications. It's the kind of market that's probably best put under the umbrella of "public transportation", because I do not believe for a second you could ever fix it with any kind of legislation, mainly due to the way it's built.


 No.60974

>>60971

Kickstarter and Patreon are the basic model for why copyright isn't necessary anymore. The services themselves have issues, but the structure is sound.

>>60972

>And then another breadmaker'll come along.

>And another.

>And another.

I mean, if you want me to keep running off airlines that AA (a) killed off by selling below cost, or (b) bought out, I'm willing to consider cancelling tonight's documentary viewing to make the point.

because that's another thing to remember that changes the whole dynamic of capitalism - finance. you've got investors subsidizing Uber fares right now because they think once city Taxis have been killed off, they'll see a return. Similarly, why are you going to support an airline undercutting American in the hopes of future profits when American is offering you double market value for your shares now?


 No.60975>>60978

>>60973

>more and more government regulation and monopoly

>profit falling

Not sure the point here. You seem to've proven what I was saying. It's why WalMart prices stay so low. It keeps them competitive, and drives out their competition. But they're stuck doing it forever, because competition keeps cropping up.


 No.60978

>>60975

>more and more government regulation and monopoly

hasn't been the case. Indeed in airlines and banking (deregulated by a democrat in the USA as it happens), the trend has been that deregulation causes oligopoly, despite those behind it often being influenced by Hayek, a man obsessed with maintaining competition.

the reasonable libertarian/neoliberal response is that profits falling is the natural result of competition, and that a declining rate of profit means a greater consumer surplus.

if you value a good at $20, buy it at $20, and it was produced for $10, the producer has a surplus of $10 and you've got a surplus of ~$0, you've swapped $20 worth of money for $20 of goods. if however you value a good at $20, it costs $11 and was produced at $10, you've swapped $11 of money for $20 worth of goods for $9 consumer surplus, while the profit margin of the seller has crashed to your benefit.


 No.60985

>>60963

>Proofs?

The charges were dropped in court due to video evidence. Keep an eye out for his next court date.

http://wtvr.com/2017/12/04/christopher-cantwell-granted-bond/

>lol you imbecile, /pol/ hates jews by virtue of them being jews. Because they're "money-grubbing parasites who destroy nations". They are the equivalent of SJWs hating on white men not because of the patriarchy but because they're FUCKING WHITE MALES!

You're dumb for believing in a strawman. They resent Jews because there are Jewish personalities in influential fields (journalists, politicians, and celebrities) who are actively against right-wing causes. Those personalities, like George Soros, even admit to working against them.

Despite this, I don't believe that it's their fault nor do I think that all of them work collectively to undermine the west. The issue is that there's a lot of retarded goyim buy that bullshit from those personalities in bulk because they lack thought process and self-control. If it wasn't going to happen with Jews, it would have happened with another group.


 No.60988

>>60987

>Even so, its not antifa's fault for him getting jailed. Blame the government.

The government immediately removed the charges of Antifa protestor who were caught violating the law on film, whereas they kept Cantwell in for using pepperspray and not detonating tear gas. Pretty sure that it is.

>And there begins the jewish conspiracy bullshit, but you dont understand this scheming as a trait they believe exists be default, as if lust for money and power by fucking people over is something you can embed in DNA.

Another strawman, no one claimed that it's genetic. Just the fact that they are against right-wing causes in the West. In fact, I believe it's owed to them thinking that it's a slippery slope to nazism.

>oh god not this bullshit again...

No one claimed that he is a communist. They claimed that he's one of the Jewish progressive who is active against right-wing causes. Which is true. The only way you can defend your position is through lying about theirs.


 No.60995

>>60989

>Again, its the government's fault for what they choose to do or not do, nobody in antifa forced a gun up to his head or bribed a politician to let this slide. To quote a lawyer friend of mine: "The law has absolutely nothing to do with justice."

That's because the members of the government are likely affiliated with Antifa.

>Except /pol/ literally does. It's not a strawman, these people think phronology is also a legit science. Just go to fucking /pol/ already and see how horrible it is.

Screencaps and strawmen don't count, overall consensus does. And the consensus is that Jewish personalities in influential positions act against right-wing activism.

>You just said he contributed to anti-right causes; promoting capirtalism is pro-rightist, something is wrong with your narrative.

>So this is the power of autism...

Are you obtuse or are you dishonest? Because Capitalism isn't a right-wing economic system, National Socialism is. I understand why you're intentionally playing semantics, it's because you're aware that you would be proven wrong if you looked at his open-borders and pro-immigration stance.


 No.60996>>61012

Because they are poor and young and have student debt, they have been sold the idea of utpoian communism. They want other people's money to be redistributed to them so they won't have to get real jobs

Don't believe for a second that anyone with an ounce of rationality in them would support anything like this, though, they are a proxy organization made to be as extreme as communists can be, so the "moderate" communists don't seem as bad as they actually are, the more flashy and extreme they are the better.


 No.61002

>>60998

Antifa know how insane their talking point are which is why they never engage in debate, nobody has even been able to even get an interview.

Do not allow it to spread its memes, do not engage.


 No.61003

>>60997

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecutory_delusion

<"It's delusional to notice blatant favoritism and discrepancies, in law, ignore the issues you see!"

You're dumb. It's a very good guess if the court immediately dismissed the charges of criminals who were caught with video evidence, while Cantwell was denied bail for months over hearsay debunked by video footage.

The mayor even encouraged people to commit crime because they know that they would be bailed from it.

>And I'm sure you have all the statistics in the world, to prove that, no?

According to this, the majority of them voted against Trump:

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/11/09/how-the-faithful-voted-a-preliminary-2016-analysis/ft_16-11-09_relig_exitpoll_religrace/

Ultimately, it wouldn't make a difference if I did or didn't provide proof because you dismiss everything in front of you to begin with.

>Holy shit you're retarded (or american). Capitalism is private ownership of the means of production by individuals, this defines them as rightists. Leftism is workers ownership of the means of production.

You're a pedantic retard if you thought that I wasn't talking about their social stance with regards to the west.


 No.61007

>>61006

Meant to be talking with him, I resent commies.


 No.61012

>>60996

Communists aim at the abolition of money.

But that's not the point I want to take up, because I'm not a communist and I want you to learn something, while also raising a moral question. Student debt, right, answer me this question: Why should student debt be repaid? Why does the organisation making the loan have any entitlement to get that money back. Morally, that is, don't fall back to a lazy excuse like "because you signed a contract agreeing to do so" - explain me the root reason, I have your answer in mind, it's very simple, and I want you to say it. Yes, it's that one, go ahead, say it.


 No.61015

>>61009

>P E R S E C U T I O N

It's not difficult to notice the double standard indicates the notion that they are affiliates. You're giving me shit for making a guess after the mayor encouraged them to and the fact that law enforcement took action against the right.

When it's leaked on paper, you're going to claim that you knew it all along.

>What the fuck? I was talking about /pol/ thinking jews are evil by default. Do you have no reading comprehension whatsoever?

They're stating that they're malicious because the majority of the influential Jews are against right-wing causes.

>OH SHIT I WAS WRONG BETTER DAMAGE CONTROL!!!!!!

<Me: "They're anti-nationalist and anti-immigration, therefore they are against rightwing policies and they are resented because of it"

<You: "UH WRONG BECAUSE HES CAPITALIST WHICH IS RIGHT-WING ACCORDING TO MARX"

<Me: "I was talking about their social stance"

<You: "I WON, DAMAGE CONTROL"

Keep your dopamine rush, but you didn't convince me of anything.


 No.61019

>>61014

It's quite important that you're him when answering the question. The answer you gave isn't the one I anticipated, and so not the one I'm prepared to build on. It goes in a different direction.

>>61017

I don't feel insulted, and that's the first reply I've had from that poster to my knowledge.


 No.61021

>>61020

Find me a video of an anitifa arguing against a "drumpfcuck"

Socking somebody in the head doesn't count as an argument.


 No.61022

>>61014

No one said that you have to go to college and get a worthless degree. It sucks that you're in that situation, but others shouldn't have to suffer for your personal mistakes.

Your example doesn't work unless if you intentionally threw yourself into the ocean while disregarding several warning signs along the way.

>>61016

The proof is that Cantwell is facing a sentence for a thing disproved by video evidence whereas Antifa agitators had charges dropped despite assaulting people on camera.

>>61018

Just take a break, because that's not what I mean.


 No.61027>>61041

>>61024

not him: why did you post this? reflect on it for a bit.

was it to be funny? was it to try and detract from the point being made? what it a pavlovian response? explain your rationale or lack thereof.

it's not that i agree or disagree, i'm just performing animal experiments, so to speak.


 No.61029

>fascism is not something to be debated, it is something to be smashed.

This, people, is why you do not argue with antifa, they just want to strawman, quotemine and anger troll you.

Do not speak to them, if nobody is speaking to them they can't spread their memes.

Remember that you can't change them with words, if that is your intention then you are running a fool's errand.


 No.61034

>>61030

an ad-hom doesn't stop being an ad-hom just because it's true.


 No.61035

>>61031

>I'm going to spread my memes by getting quotemined by people who want to kick my nose into my face and watch me choke to death on my own blood!

You are such a stupid fuck.


 No.61037

>>61026

>That sucks (for him) sure, but its no antifa's fault and you cant pin this on an entire group for what happened to a few people.

I get that I don't have it on paper, but I'm not going to rule out the possibility that some are in the government. You'll see that I'm right about it in the future.


 No.61041

>>61036

your egoliness, if you would be so kind as to answer the question: >>61027


 No.61048

>>61047

so you're saying you're afraid of the spook? you're too much of a coward to answer the question?

dear me, it seems Mr. Ego is spooked by cowardice.


 No.61050>>61055 >>61056

Everyone in this thread is fucking retarded. Why would you mix your hobby with your politics? What the fuck is wrong with you. You are not welcome on /pol/, and I think you shouldn't be welcome in the mainstream of society either. You people are weirdos. If you kept your furry-hood and your politial beliefs seprate I have no problem with you, but you're the faggots that think "Ohh~ It's a movement! I'm doing something good!" and want to be as flamboyant as possible. You realize that the head of your "Furry Raider" autism group is a half-Jew?

Please stop what you're doing, both of you. You're only maing fools of yourself and aren't helping either of your sides win in any arguments. It's as cringy as that one deviantartist who drew his fursona crying on 9/11. Do you fucking see yourselves? This isn't me being No-Fun, this is me saying you're being fucking stupid.

Say this out-loud without cringing at yourself: "I am going to wear my fursuit with pride, and show everyone how totally Nazi I am!" or "I am going to wear my fursuit with pride, and show everyone I don't tolorate those meanie facists!"

/pol/ out.


 No.61055>>61062

>>61050

>/pol/ out.

can you answer my lingering question: did/does Maulkin ( pic #2 in >>60905 ) post on /pol/, or did the person commenting on his profile just randomly decide to comment on behalf of the board without them ever having posted there.


 No.61056>>61062

>>61050

Politicizing non-political spheres is a very old strategy.

How many [demographic] for [ideology or personality] groups have you seen?


 No.61058>>61133

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 No.61061>>61110

A lot of furries have mental illnesses, one of the reasons why they're attracted to the fandom, why they're attracted to tumblr gender and sexuality crap, and why they idolize loser organizations like antifa.


 No.61062

>>61055

I've only seen this person in cringe pics. I have no idea who the fuck he is. Probably posts pseudo-anonymously

>>61056

Yeah, but things like rock music and counter-culture. What are you? You draw animals and insist on making your hobby "what I am". If this isn't you, then you are the minority.


 No.61063

>>61057

it's an imageboard thing

people can only have civil discussions where they agree or where a thread contains only two people who decide to try and retrench their own beliefs by seeking common ground with someone else.

imageboards are, ironically, the greatest argument for why collectivism is fucking poisonous to the individual mind.


 No.61068

>>61064

my gut feeling is what i just said + furries not generally being a demographic of calm, rational discourse.

but i have no justification for that except feeling.


 No.61074

>>61070

I'm sorry but if you actually got your way you would be among the first to die via bullet to the back of the head


 No.61076

File (hide): 5bb67c8053e967c⋯.jpg (112.11 KB, 992x503, 992:503, 1507779287.mattx_classic_d….jpg) (h) (u)

*send u to jail*


 No.61081

>>61078

>What are jokes

sorry anon jokes haven't existed since 2016. i know it must be hard adapting after waking up from a coma.

nobody can tell whether it was the last action of the Obama administration or the first action of the Trump administration that abolished jokes because the only historical evidence we have is people joking about it on Twitter, and we can't translate what they were trying to say. Indeed, we can't even tell what tone they're typing in - are the those tweets thanking obama/trump for the executive action some form of humour, referential to some tendency to appoint blame arbitrarilly, or are they genuine celebration that jokes were abolished? one thing's for sure, whichever administration took the action it has made the life of the anthropologist very difficult.


 No.61084>>61085

File (hide): ce565bebf98c6f3⋯.jpg (37.77 KB, 483x355, 483:355, 1494610944526.jpg) (h) (u)

gggggggggruuuuuuUUUUUUUUUUMPFFFFFFFFFFFLLLLLLLLLLDDHHH

TTTTTRRRRRRRRRHRHHHHHUUUUUUUUAAAAAAANGGGGGGGGGFFFFFFTTHHHHHHHHHHHHH

EEEEBBII҉HLL҉ ҉NATHZ҉IEESSSSS HHHH҉HHYYYYYYYYYYYYY


 No.61085

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>>61084

BEGONE GLOBALIST


 No.61088

Do everything except fight them


 No.61089

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>>61086

>>61087

no discussion between you two is going to come to anything fruitful because you aren't even going to agree on the very basics, like what "communism" is. You're going to keep talking past one another until one of you gives up and goes to masturbate.

smart people, really smart academics, economists and policy advisers, can't have a fucking conversation because they talk past one another like that, they disagree on terms, they get mired in the little details, they try to put square pegs in round holes in one another's disciplines even when they agree on what the reality is, because their perspective is different. You two do not have a hope in hell of having a meaningful conversation as two internet idiots.


 No.61092

>>61090

it's not deep, it's not philosophical. If you stop and agree definitions you could quite easily have a discussion. That's what academics do because they're not allowed to spend all day having cunt-offs in journals, they have to at least pretend to be doing some work.

but you're not going to do that. you're going to keep going back and forth, or you and I are going to get into a cunt off because I just can't resist the temptation to string people along until my heart gives in.


 No.61097

>Furries and fucking politics

That's how stupid furries really are, incapable of dreaming up a universe with all fun and fucking and no politics at all.


 No.61100

>>61099

>I'm going ot go jack off to autistic fursonas now tho, see you next politics thread where we'll continue this retarded, pointless screechfest.

They mocked me when I said this would happen, you know.


 No.61103


 No.61104

>>61102

This is like the mirror image of Holocaust deniers. Are you even trying anymore?


 No.61105>>61106 >>61107

>179 replies to a 10 hour old thread

Fuck off /leftypol/ no one wants to join your retarded cult.


 No.61106

>>61105

can i join your cult instead pls


 No.61107>>61109

>>61105

honestly this has nothing to do with furries, I have no idea why the mods have ignored it


 No.61109>>61112

>>61107

Either they haven't noticed or they're too busy getting their dicks sucked by a pig with makeup.


 No.61110

>>61061

Pretty much, but I think it's mostly the fags that have ruined it. The greymuzzles remain sane.

>>61043

No need to, fund my bitcoin wallet instead.


 No.61112>>61113 >>61114

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>>61109

>getting their dicks sucked by a pig with makeup

What could you possibly mean by this?


 No.61113

>>61112

every time this webm gets posted god's light strays a little bit further from us


 No.61114

>>61112

I thought outright bestiality wasn't allowed on this board.


 No.61118>>61132

Marxist Leninist with a furshit fetish here.

Antifa are retards, they're basically servants of the neoliberal establishment as they fight for a return of the Overton window back to where it was 5 years ago rather than real praxis, abolishing capitalism. Further, antifa are usually libs, red-libs and annarkiddies. I enjoy seeing the proud niggers and antifa kill eachother but, again, real left praxis doesn't support them.


 No.61132>>61137

>>61118

>Marxist-Leninist

At least this is an ideology that I can respect; fuck man, you need to take care of your starbucks revolutionary Neo-lib shits if you're going to get anything done, the truest political rhetoric i've ever heard is that the worst enemy of the Far-Left isn't the Far-Right, it's Neo-Liberals, same with the Neo-Con types with the Far-Right, because Neo-Libs can pretend to be a part of your movement like the movie THE THING and subvert from within far better than the Alt-Right ever could.


 No.61133

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 No.61134>>61136 >>61148

File (hide): 940f34e7d90e7a9⋯.jpg (233.06 KB, 1222x1182, 611:591, Untitled.jpg) (h) (u)

>No really guys, Antifa has never violently murdered someone and bashed their brains out all over the concrete

>Oh boy, I love waving the SPANISH flag around

>KILL THE NAZI

>"Rodrigo Lanza" a local and proclaimed "anarchist" murders you by caving your skull in with a metal rod

this thread didn't age too well.


 No.61136

>>61134

The funny thing is that they're actually killing themselves when they do this, they're granting a victim status not only the right in general but to actual fascism, they're REALLY not going to like what this ends up becoming in 10 - 15 years


 No.61137>>61140

>>61132

Neo liberalism is the enemy of genuine political action in general. Now, historically, modern right wingers back to the NSDAP end up playing patsy to them but I guess the same can be said for anarchists on the left.


 No.61140

>>61137

> historically, modern right wingers back to the NSDAP end up playing patsy to them

Which is why you get both the left and the right claiming "Nazism" and "Fascism" are AKSHULLY left wing and not right wing or vice versa since they're mixed systems that took ethnocentric policies of the far-right and swirled them with distributionist social policies while sucking off central banking because they needed the war monies and no one can tell what the fuck it is because fascism and nazism are both spergy systems that were hodgepodged together for specific goals in a time/historical sensitive setting, and anyone advocating for them nowadays is fucking retarded. (have a little bit of the same feeling with people that admire 1930s An-Com Catalonia because even Orwell thought that shit didn't work out) Just call yourself a Totalitarian, but not a fucking Nazi, it's as cringy as saying you want to re-establish the Tsar monarchy.


 No.61141

Reminder that it's not racism/sexism if it's based on fact and reason.


 No.61148>>61156

>>61134

>waving the spanish flag in catalona a week before the election following the suspension of Catalan democracy over an illegal independence referendum

yeah i'm sure they were killed by antifa, rather than by Catalan nationalists.


 No.61151

>>61117

That's a really demeaning comparison to pigs to be fair. Poor things didn't ask to be compared to that... thing.


 No.61152>>61153

File (hide): 6e3927ecbf80a23⋯.jpg (332.51 KB, 770x1000, 77:100, 1416104542380.jpg) (h) (u)

Because wealthy faggots from California need to pretend they're rebelling against the system when the only one they have a problem with is daddy.

Its pretty much that, these people have a child-level sense of morality at best and its no wonder they're usually communists on top of that.

An ideology that has failed and collapsed time and time again. So badly that the russians had to run propaganda to stop people from cannibalism and eating their own children.

There is this weird overlap between political activism, aggressive self-flagellation and the desperate need for validation and attention in these kinds of people that manifests itself in them.

The people you see and potentially meet at an Antifa rally are all from wealthy households, desperate for attention and wimpy as shit.

Every single time they're faced with actual nazis (who are usually up for a fight) they get the shit utterly beaten out of them to the point that it is an utter embarrassment.

So they resort to just attacking random ass people that they hope is a right winger. Since their definition of nazi is 'anybody who isn't left.'

That is why you have shit happening like the bikelock professor and these retards post on social media about it to get recognition.

Or in lesser cases you have shit like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plyC2ipo2B4 where they aren't physically as strong, so they don't get go that far, lest they'd get their own skulls caved in. Intimidating people into leaving gets them similar headpats. Since there aren't any nazis around, some dude with a free speech cardboard sign that is as inoffensive as possible will have to do.

They want the attention, prestige and social status among their little commie cult.

It simply isn't a moral argument to them, a reasonable person would go 'I shouldn't assault random people who I think is a nazi, I could be wrong." nor would they believe random ass republicans or Trump supporters are actual nazis.

Furries are known attention seeking whores, likely because we're all degenerates so its no surprise that there is an overlap there. Especially since the right used to be sex-negative puritans with a grudge against homosexuals. And furries are fags.


 No.61153

>>61152

>Every single time they're faced with actual nazis (who are usually up for a fight)

highly fucking doubt this given the youngest actual nazis are in their late 70s.


 No.61156

>>61148

It's always your prerogative to deny responsibility and place blame on others.


 No.61159>>61166 >>61169

I, for one, don't care.

Is this all we can muster to keep the board moving? Politics?


 No.61166>>61169

>>61159

I've been held down at the stage where I feel like I'd actually enjoy political furries if they were involved in real politics rather than fantasy LARP shit.

Imagine this - a dog right, a dog, a poodle - and he's holding a sign, and the sign says "Vote Green", and he's smiling. In the background there's a tree. No LARP bullshit, no Nazis, no violence, no fighting, no nothing. No. Vote Green so they'll give everyone a green bin to put plastic bottles in. That's it. Not "vote green so the earth doesn't catch fire", not "vote green or you're a bad person", just "Vote Green, I think it would be nice", and that's it, that's the whole discussion. Nobody is pretending they'd kill one another in real life rather than meekly avoiding eye contact, nobody is pretending their election is of cosmic importance, nobody is placing the election within historical context and trying to avoid the temptation to gouge their own eyes out in the face of a faceless mass of ignorant peons. No, the dog is voting for the Green party, and he's smiling. He's happy. That's the beginning, and the end of it.


 No.61169

>>61159

It's just the hot topic on social media, you can blame tumblr and twitter for the politicization of everything since 2010s. I'm quiet, but I only bring up my politics when others bring it up.

>>61166

You can't prevent it as the fandom loves drama like a coke addict obsesses over crack. Prior to politics, they were bitching about artists and engaging in drama beforehand, even whining about republicans. If Nazis didn't exist, other boogeymen would. You can't fix a fandom that is fundamentally broken after the 90s. The reason why it's fundamentally broken is owed to how narcissistic most are, they want everything around them to fit 100% of their ideal reality/fantasy. If a person or thing breaks that 100%, then they throw a huge hissy fit and demand to shut it down.

Kemono and anime rarely suffer from those issues because they're not filled with narcissists. Japan has the live and let live mentality. If they don't like it, then they don't resort to blacklisting or starting social media drama because there's numerous other stuff that they can consume.


 No.61183>>61184

>>61099

What did you expect from modern liberals today? They aren't good people, just vain people who value in protecting their "good" image. To "appear" good, they frequently deny their wrongdoing while also calling out the exact wrongdoing of others. They mock holocaust deniers, but deny the the atrocities in the USSR. They pretend to love the poor, but immediately mock the proletarian rural rednecks. You'll find several other contradictions, but you'll notice that everything about them is insincere. If they can't follow their ideals instinctively, then it also means that they don't really believe in it either.


 No.61184

>>61183

>but deny the the atrocities in the USSR

lol no.

you'd think people would be familiar with the actual average liberal politician or party functionary, which is /r/neoliberal not /r/fullcommunism.


 No.62238

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drop some pills and leave


 No.62264

>>60878 (OP)

Furries are retarded what did you expect?




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