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I know art is subjective and all, but I think we can generally distinguish between laughably bad art and art that actually looks just creepy or weird. Post art that's so bad it's (unintentionally) disturbing.
Or otherwise seriously ugly or aesthetically displeasing. Especially stuff where it looks like the artist went through the "effort" of shading it and what not, perhaps actually attempted to make it look good, but they clearly did not know what they were doing and it only looks that much worse because of it. Like when people try to add shading and/or gloss to eyes but it just makes it look glassy and dead as a result, you know?
▶ No.52960>>52964
99% of gay art, as well as that sam ruisin or whatever guy
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>>52960
And the shitposting homophobe returns to kill another shit thread. Wow. This place is so great.
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>>52964
>homophobe
Why is tumblr here?
▶ No.52973>>52975 >>53039 >>53045
>>52968
>Anything I don't like is tumblr
Why is /pol/ here?
▶ No.52975>>53005
>>52973
>tumblrite can't think of a better defense
>hurr durr go bak to pol. :=D
Trannies and SJWs will always be scum of the planet. Also /pol/ is everywhere and this site was founded on it. Stop being such a dick licking niggerfaggot newfag and lurk more.
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>>52975
>All he can do is call me tumblr some more
It's telling that you think everything that is wrong with your lives is someone else's fault.
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>>52964
>>52973
>>53005
What are you doing? You get offended by someone who thinks most of the gay art is shit (which is objectively true) and then you get offended by the fact that /pol/ exists?
Do you even know where you are? Do you know why dissenting opinions exist?
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>>53039
>someone who thinks most of the gay art is shit (which is objectively true)
>Do you even know where you are?
Do you even know where YOU are?? Furries are accepting of homosexuality. If you aren't, you should find some other community where being a narrow-minded bigoted asshole is glorified and accepted. On last check, that would be literally anywhere that isn't here or tumblr. Little wonder you shitheads are so afraid of tumblr; it's one of the only places left on the internet where your special brand of retardation isn't tolerated.
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>>53041
Except it is still true you actual fucking turbo-autist. Same with a lot of straight art for that matter.
>you should find some other community
Neither I or others have to move from here for having different opinions. I've been on tumblr before and I don't get the appeal? It is about as cancerous as people say it is. Nothing special about our 'brand' by the way, its pretty common anywhere free speech is allowed.
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>>52973
A lot of things I don't like are from tumblr and that includes newfaggots such as yourself. Your point?
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>>53041
He just stated that a lot of gay art from the fandom looks bad and you took offense with it. The reason why a lot of the art looks bad is because you guys aren't receptive to criticism, you think that any method of people trying to help you is "hateful". The first thing that should be on your mind is,
>"Oh damn, that's a stereotype? I should be better!"
not
<"Fuck you /pol/! Don't judge me in any way shape or form even when it's for improvement."
I'm one of the people that he's criticizing, but you can't let pride blind you. It's good to be receptive to any input and have an open mind.
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>>53039
>X art is objectively bad.
Are you a moral objectivist, or do you just say "objectively" for emphasis the same way kids use the word "literally"?
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>>53062
>you think that any method of people trying to help you is "hateful"
He declared a big portion of the fandom's art as bad without any sort of explanation or insight other than "gay", which doesn't even have anything to do with one's artistic ability. That is not helpful no matter how you look at it.
>I'm one of the people that he's criticizing, but you can't let pride blind you.
Either you are just fucking around or some sort of extreme doormat.
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>>53044
>Same with a lot of straight art for that matter
That's not what he was saying. It doesn't matter if it's factual because the way he said it was deliberately meant to be inflammatory. Maybe that guy shouldn't have taken the bait, but that changes nothing. You can't just walk up to a large group of black people, declare "99% of niggers are butt-ugly", even when it's objectively true by society's high standards of beauty, and expect to get out of there without getting the shit beaten out of you.
It's ironic you calling him an autist, because autism is exactly what you and that other guy are doing, which is not understanding that language is more than just the literal definition of the words.
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>>53095
Autism is also ID hopping and samefagging you autistic faggot.
▶ No.53110>>53117
>>53095
>because the way he said it
lol
ok
>You can't just walk up to a large group of black people, declare "99% of niggers are butt-ugly", even when it's objectively true by society's high standards of beauty, and expect to get out of there without getting the shit beaten out of you.
I can if I high-tail it out of there. Or just yell it from afar instead of going near a large group of blacks in the first place.
>It's ironic you calling him an autist
Nah
>because autism is exactly what you and that other guy are doing
Unfunny opinion but yeah sure
>which is not understanding that language is more than just the literal definition of the words.
You're implying he knows how to communicate properly. You're implying he isn't a spasticated retard, unless you're the same faggot.
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>>53110
>I can if I high-tail it out of there
Way to completely miss the point. But I suppose it's par for the course to merely pretend to be retarded, if it allows you to ignore or misinterpret an argument that you cannot counter.
>spasticated
Don't you have spell-check on the $800 phone your parents bought you, to prevent this sort of thing? It's cute you deign yourself worthy to criticize language after that tidbit.
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>>53117
>Way to completely miss the point.
xddd
>But I suppose it's par for the course to merely pretend to be retarded,
Funnily enough I don't really pretend to be anything. You can go ahead and try to convince yourself I'm somehow retarded though if it makes you feel better.
>allows you to ignore or misinterpret an argument that you cannot counter.
Was there something I ignored? Because I haven't misinterpreted anything. You've been unsuccessfully trying to make it out like the local sjw isn't exactly what he is. Doesn't matter if he tries to cleverly word himself when he still just appears retarded.
>haha arent u bad at spellin and languaj xDD eb i n
Not really spelling anything wrong if you have two eyes.
You're also actually not making any point here either so ... Ok? Interesting.
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>>52964
most gay art is shit you faggot
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>>53148
>xddd
Get back to Facebook, kid. Nobody wants you here.
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>>53151
>kikebook
neck yourself immediately
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>>53153
>I can't post anything but le dank memes
I'd tell you to kill yourself, first; but that would be irresponsible as you are far too young to be making such a decision about your life.
▶ No.53170>>53194
>>53155
Just cope with the fact that you're not witty or intelligent in any particular way. You get triggered by people with different opinions on the internet, gj.
▶ No.53171>>53194
This thread is derailed and ruined. Please as a third party both of you are autistic and no one cares.
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>>53170
>you're not witty or intelligent in any particular way
Yes, I'm more witty and intelligent in a general way.
Also, as opposed to getting triggered by porn you don't like and deliberately hanging out in the one place where there is the most of it? Like a straight guy intentionally going to a gay bar and then getting mad that there are so many gays around. Fucking retarded, that's for sure.
>>53171
It was a meaningless and shitty prompt, anyway. Art being "disturbingly bad" is completely subjective, and nobody is going to agree with what is or isn't.
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>>53095
>even when it's objectively true by society's high standards of beauty
MORE /POL/ LIES
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>>53153
if you hate Jews why do you love Trump so much? He is one.
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>>53234
I'm not even american. What are you trying to say?
If you're genuinely curious why people have different opinions then go and investigate for yourself in any place they gather. Far as I'm aware there's nothing preventing you from talking with the evil natzees. Maybe you'll even discover that they're human too.
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the best thing about this thread is the lack of any on topic images being posted
i dont have any bad art saved so i cant contribute anything either
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>>53330
>there's nothing preventing you from talking with the evil natzees. Maybe you'll even discover that they're human too
Pretty sure you can do the same thing with a group of faggots. The funny thing is, only one of these groups wants to violently murder the other. How does that work?
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>>53342
Who said I thought faggots weren't human? They're just faggots in addition. So what if I don't agree with a majority of gay art?
When I say places where they gather I mean the internet since its where they're allowed to speak the most and also the quickest. No one is going to be able to murder you over the internet so you can put that fear away.
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>>53067
You'll become better from not demanding insincerity and having pride blind you.
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>>53342
If you think that saying "gay art is shit" constitutes a death threat, then it's a problem with you, not with them. Drop the ego.
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>>52953 (OP)
Thank you OP for posting this marvelous picture, it was really hard for me without the usual nightmares involving my death.
Now, i can finally rest well, with this masterpiece scarring my very soul and burning itself into my very own DNS.
▶ No.53442>>53779
>creates thread about bad art
>3 images, all reaction images
>rest of thread is autistic screeching
good job /furry/
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>>53421
It's not about "fear"; it's about proving a point. One you are deliberately ignoring because of "b-but nazis aren't b-b-bad people!!" nonsense.
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>>53512
Nice job shifting the goalpost. He never claim to be a nazi, you accused him of being one because he said that gay art looked bad.
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>>53528
I was responding to him saying "nazis are nice people, too!"; and I never called anyone a nazi. Read a little more carefully next time.
▶ No.53579>>53609
I'm glad /fur/ has stepped away from porn dumps to give us quality discussions such as these.
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>>53579
I'm glad Trump was elected, to give us quality discussions such as these ON EVERY WEBSITE ON THE FUCKING INTERNET.
▶ No.53627>>53674
Any of the artwork supersonic250 gets for her shitty fanfics. It all looks like a child drew it which is creepy because she only writes underage sex smut.
Isn't she the school teacher? Call the authorities for fuck's sake. Clearly grooming is going on.
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>>53627
>Policeman writes a story about torturing people
Oh snap! Someone contact the authorities. Clearly he's beating up suspects.
▶ No.53680>>53705 >>53755 >>53969
Art is not subjective, the simple existence of bad art proves that.
And about the topic of the thread I would say that sadly most of the western furry art is really unpolished and below the standard, specially porn drawings, regardless of what genre it is.
I consider myself kinda new on the furry fandom, but from the short time I have been talking and chating with furries I notice that most of them are oversensible people that doesn't accept critiques or have the balls to at least try to critique other's work.
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>>53680
Art is subjective. The simple existence of modern art proves that.
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>>53674
Actually, yeah, if a policeman was writing stories about torture I would question his capacity to serve as a policeman. I wouldn't take it as evidence that he himself tortured people but it would be a sign he might not be fit for the job.
Same thing with a teacher writing underage sex stories. Not evidence of actual criminality but it suggests they might not be the best person to be a teacher.
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>>53705
Modern art, dadaism, performance, and "conceptual" artists are just a talentless and pretentious people who make things with no real merit or value. If anything can be considered art, even if it doesn't have an aesthetic or real effort put into it, then art looses all its cultural value.
If art is subjective then critiques and studies mean absolutely nothing.
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>>53710
police murder and torture people all the time, why do you think they have guns and tazers?
▶ No.53755>>53783
>>53680
>Art is not subjective, the simple existence of bad art proves that.
1.If objectively bad art exists, art is objective.
2. Objectively bad art exists.
Therefore art is objective.
Would you mind proving premise 2? I'm honestly curious how you would attempt that.
By the way, what species would Ayn Rand be if she were a furfag?
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>>53442
I know right? Lol XD
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>>53755
>what species would Ayn Rand be if she were a furfag?
A leech.
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>>53783
That's the exact opposite of her principles though. Even though I don't think she herself was able to live up to those standards.
I would say she would be a sheep character ala Zootopia's Bellwether with those thick rimmed glasses but elderly with a raspy voice and a fuck lot more stubborn and blunt with people.
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>>53814
>That's the exact opposite of her principles though. Even though I don't think she herself was able to live up to those standards.
She bought into muh job creators meme and didn't care if employees were treated like shit and given bad wages. She also idolized a man for kidnapping a kid and demanding ransom from the parents, praising him as some self-interested hero, and during the last years of her life she got on welfare because she couldn't work due to her cancer (she got from smoking, she also denied tobacco caused cancer, in almost all of works the """"""hero""""" smokes) which she spent her entire life denouncing social programs because they were for the weak.
The problem with Rand's philosophy is she thought people should only follow their self-interest, and then tried to tell them what to do. She realized there was a problem, if people followed their self-interest then they were going to support socialism since after all it's better for them than capitalism. So she split self-interest into 2 categories: the "good" self-interest and the "bad" self-interest. good self-interest is being a cuck and letting yourself be stepped all over by the higher ups because again, muh job creators. Bad self-interest is trying to take away their wealth and greatness and assert yourself as dominant, you filthy underling, if you're poor you should know your place!
Moral of the story: Read Stirner.
Also post sauce of first pic pls.
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>>53680
I don't give critique to most of the fandom because people either get pissed at me or argue with me. I don't mind when I receive it.
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>>53946
Stirner is leftism for /b/.
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>>53946
I knew all of those points prior with her smoking denial and welfare, never said I agreed with her but I still admire individualist stances whenever they pop up rather than the Anarcho-Capitalism tied around it, I enjoy stirner spook man myself and usually hover around Mutualism, since gay space Anarcho-Communism and Mountain Dew Anarcho-Capitalism look unappealing to me, but at least they're not authoritarian like their USSR and Monarchy counterparts.
also sauce on first pic is the artist dotkwa
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>>54013
>im too ashamed to adopt a nonexistent ideology so ill adopt another nonexistent ideology
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god where is the disturbingly bad art?