/fur/ - Furry★

>>50847

The thing is a lot of fandoms die off due to people losing interest.

One problem the furry fandom has is that it mostly only appeals to males and socially awkward ones that have obscure sexual fetishes. Casual onlookers just see extreme sexual deviant zoophiles.

Additionally furry already has a social justice bent in it. Like Dragoneer banned nazis from FA. The fandom is at a real chance of completely dying off in a decade due to low interest/splitting from other similar fandoms like MLP.

>>50847

also

I like more tummy

>>50845 (OP)

How do you even define the "fandom"? People who fursuit and roleplay? People who just have a fursona and their circle of friends, but nothing beyond that? People who like anthromophic characters as just an aesthetic? Some people would say all of the above, but others would say you must have a fursona to be a part of the fandom. A few might even say you have to go to conventions and the like. If we're talking about purely aesthetics, then I can see the fandom growing that way, but not much beyond that.

>>50848

Quit looking exclusively at porn. Actually, this brings up another point. Do you see the fandom as something that ultimately revolves around porn and sex, but with animals?

>>50845 (OP)

>furry

>exclusionary

If anything, the lot's main issue is being too accepting. Anyone is welcome, and that means some seriously messed up people who give the whole a bad name get to shit things up.

But, no, I doubt it'll ever be too mainstream. It'll probably subsist like it is now.

People come and go, and the horrible types furries welcome for some reason will keep giving it a bad name

>>50848

This is something I've been working to fix. Though, not to try to bring more people in, as it is, have something to cater to my own tastes.

Furries are far too focused on the sex aspect as it is. Furshit is typically just humans with a funky face, because of this. There's no depth, no character, no thought put in to it.

I hope to change that. It's a slow going, but this place's given me some hope. There's a lot of actual discusison what happens around here. THat's the jazz I love. Worldbuilding and storymaking, rather than shitty porn.

>>50850

> Do you see the fandom as something that ultimately revolves around porn and sex, but with animals?

Not "with animals", but yeah. Ultimately, as much as furries like to pretend it isn't that is the vast, vast bulk of what the fandom revolves around.

>>50851

>anyone who actively associates with them/is part of a community/regularly looks at art.

>I don't think people who just like anthropomorphic characters associate as furries

Anon, you're contradicting yourself. How can someone who likes anthropomorphic characters not regularly look at art.

Anyway, the issue here is that the "fandom" is just two completely different communities glued together by a loose thread. You have the side that is all about sex, to the point a good chunk only view the animal aspects as another flavor of porn. Then you have the side which is about exploring anthropomorphism and animals, then creating worlds and stories around them. The loose thread here is animals, which is what shows up on the surface level and what the public eye sees.

Anime was able to break their connotation about how it's only porn due to its rise in popularity over the past few decades.Is there still plenty of porn being made and people who say anime is only about sexing up lolis? Sure, but most people know there's a line drawn between the two. The "fandom" isn't like that because there are plenty of people within the fandom itself who associate the two together and constantly reinforce the idea that the "fandom" is mostly about porn and nothing else. It's made even worse by the fact the largest furry site, FA, mixes the two communities together and makes them look like one massive unified blob. The quality of the community doesn't need to be improved, it just needs to be split into the two separate communities it should of been in the first place.

Like basically everything else in the world, it's dying out because it's fracturing into smaller and smaller "tribes". If people have any sort of disagreement, no matter how minor, they take it as a signal that they must vehemently hate each other. It was never like this before. Discussions over shit as unimportant as whether furries should be digitigrade or plantigrade, or have dog dicks or human dicks, eventually devolve into one side calling the other not-true-furries, and the other calling the first dogfuckers. If you like MLP you're lambasted and ostracized by those who do not. If you like Zootopia or don't, you're either a liberal SJW feminist or a retard nazi racist. If you have a fursuit you're an autistic pervert and if you don't you're a poor loser. And all these people hate each other with such a fury that there can never be any reconciliation.

Having the same general interest in anthros, or at least the deeper aspects of worldbuilding and pornography, should unite us together. But no. If someone doesn't think exactly as you do on every single point, they are fucking assholes, fucking losers, fucking Satan, and this will never change; rest assured, they feel the same about you.

Essentially, Identity Politics has invaded every single aspect of our lives. The Microsoft vs. Apple, or PC vs. Console wars were mere punchlines in the early 2000's, but have by now approached the level of religious dogma. Now, one's preference for something as inane as how they choose to play video games is seen as a defining characteristic of their personality and worth as a human being. It's fucking ridiculous. The worst part is, imageboards merely make this more obvious and more efficient. Older people tend to become even MORE set in their ways, and even more willing to condemn millions of people as sub-humans for what kind of goddamned soda they prefer or what kind of car they drive.

>>50851

>A large subculture of anime viewers watch anime porn however that's not how the fandom is viewed externally

That's because, in the West, animation is seen as something entirely for children, and simultaneously children are seen as entirely asexual.

>>50857

This bullshit has infected pretty much everything now

>>50861

I want to marry Rio!

>>50860

Discord is a fucking meme. It will go away once everyone starts to realize it's a literal datamining site (they don't have ads; how do they make money to keep the servers up?) and that nobody really wants to hear people moan about their fetishes.

As for the art websites, they're in decline because of fracturing, too. It started when FA kicked out cubs. And inkbunny won't allow human content. And e621 is starting to become a hugbox for artists, which is hurting its ability to be useful. Stories are mostly on sofurry. MLP stuff isn't tolerated anywhere except its own dedicated sites. Tumblr has its own art style and they don't mix with the rest. New furry websites pop up all the time, and instead of replacing what came before them, they just scrape away a little from everywhere else to form their own little niche. Since /furry/ died, you would expect the majority of them to come here, but that didn't happen; instead, they scattered all across the seven fucking winds. Partially, that was because /fur/ billed itself as the SFW pretentious hipster assholes who did "discussion" instead of porn and normie stuff, and that attitude chased most people away.

>It was always like this before

No it wasn't. It was a small community of nerds and fags hanging out supporting each other because they had nowhere else to turn, and treating the whole thing like a fun pointless little hobby. Now, everything has to be a competition. Do you REALLY thing the furries on halfchan are worse people than you are? It's practically dogma by this point.

I predict that eventually some famous rap star will start flaunting a fursona and it'll become a thing with black people/musicians.

As the entertainment industry falls apart further and further people will start to do anything to get a fanbase/attention, including furbait.

Why are you guys acting like the furry fandom fracturing into many small sub-communities is a bad thing?

>>50887

>>50890

>Iirc Disney did reach out to Furry communities when they made Zootopia.

>As the entertainment industry falls apart further and further people will start to do anything to get a fanbase/attention, including furbait.

As if!

There's a few ex-furries in entertainment, all of them were more or less involved with the fandom in their teens, but progressively grew to hate the community with a passion.

The more they delved into the community, the more they realized it wasn't for them, because it does not promote improvement, only attention whoring. The whinier the person, the more popular it was and the more it made. Entertainment needs real artists, not tumblrina whores. And real artists aren't compatible with the furry fandom.

So no, definitely nobody in entertainment actually gives a fuck about furries.

And the industry is all but falling apart. Scandals involving single actors/directors/producers/whoever will not break the industry. Because they're not the actual industry, they're just the facade. All the fucking studios to which the work gets offloaded and their employees are the industry.

t. someone from the entertainment industry

I do not see furry becoming mainstream. If anything, the rampant pedo shit will leak somehow and ruin the fandom hard, probably because some prominent furry artist or site owner gets busted in an online sting and it makes major news.

Frankly the fandom has so many skeletons that have gotten out of the closet, with many more still in, that I'm surprised the mainstream hasn't ruined you yet. How all that shit from the FA note leak or other sources didn't turn into a media deal somehow puzzles me.

News reporters fucking laughed at you over the chlorine gas attack and the police never really investigated that. The fandom is seen largely as a sex fetish by the public- which it IS.

It doesn't help much that "furry" is more a catch-all generic fandom that has no business lumping multiple fandoms together, and for some bizarre reason right-wing nuts have been flocking to it even though their conservative "values" say that should not nowhere near a porn fetish. That's going to hurt you further, because Richard Spencer and liar Milo are NOT your allies.

>watch the staff ban me for saying that because they're /pol/ fucks who got their fee-fees hurt over a valid criticism of the recent swing in furry right-wing idiots

>fuck the staff anyway, faggots and Zaush defenders he lot of them

>wonder what would happen if I wrote Chris Hansen and Nancy Grace actual letters about the fandom's bullshit?

>know of a PA school teacher who writes underage cub smut, could report her to her school district too

>>50901

Small communities is good.

Small communities that hate eachother isn't good. Just like communities that hate eachother aren't good.

Not that we need to foster peace, per say, it's just, /monster/'s divine hatred towards anything with a snout leaves some rather unfortunate marks.

>>50905

>rampant pedo shit will leak somehow and ruin the fandom hard

Pedo shit is how you know you've broken into mainstream success. See: the music industry, Hollywood, the Church, etc.

Anthropomorphic animals (Tony the Tiger, Bugs Bunny) are already mainstream. However, going to conventions wearing a fursuit and whatnot is not.

I think furry fandom has a fear of being commercialized. There are plenty of custom characters out there, but I don't see much fandom of mainstream furry characters. There are a few fursuits out of mainstream characters, like Bolt, Toriel, Nick Wilde.

Mainstreaming may actually be bad. It may have been what killed Comic Con. Mainstreaming may sanitize the fandom to make it "advertiser friendly" (if you know what I mean).

https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2013/07/how-nerds-lost-comic-con/313106/

Other fandoms aren't as normalized as one would think. How many Klingons have you seen at McDonald's?

Hope it involves a QT Furry GF for me!

>>50901

It greatly depends

What this fracturing mostly does is cause further and further infighting among groups to the point where they can't find any common ground with anything.

I've brought up how /monster/ loathes furry with a passion, if furry did not exist they'd do the exact same thing with every other group.

>>50890

>That's largely since most people used /furry/ as a porn dumping board and that's frowned upon here.

If thats why /fur/ doesn't get as much traffic as /furry/ used to then why is /fp/ so dead?

>>50956

Because dumps encourage short-term growth, but not long-term sustainability.

>>50905

>A single bad case on the news will ruin the fandom.

How many times were you dropped on your head as a baby? That's not how this shit works.

Also

>Being a buttmad leftyfag

You are why there's a "Recent swing" in Right wing and centrist furfags, 'Cause nobody likes your shit anymore

>>50890

>That's largely since most people used /furry/ as a porn dumping board

I know that's what you WANT to believe, to maintain your delusion that /fur/ was always the superior board, but it's not the case. There were frequent art threads, fursona threads, media threads, discussion threads --- just more of everything in general, good and bad. It's like comparing a big city to a sleepy little farm town. Sure, the city has crime and pollution and noise, but in the town there is simply nothing to DO. Just a bunch of old hicks sitting around with nothing to talk about but corn and who the town tart is sleeping with today.

>>50847

not like females can get any worse anyway -w-

Hey the recent step towards mainstreaming did happen recently, it resulted in YCH commissions and patreon whoring. Going in that direction sounds like a great idea yeah.