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 No.49899>>50082 >>50102 >>50758 >>50774 [Watch Thread][Show All Posts]

I can never seem to find any furries agreeing to a concise, sensible rule that separates just a furry character from an actual fursona. As far as I understand, a "fursona" means the character represents the creator, but I also see a lot of furries arguing against that and just saying a fursona is just any furry character. I have a couple animal characters that I've made, but none of them are really based on myself at all, so referring to them as fursonas feels wrong.

Does anyone here on /fur/ have a good way to explain this all?

 No.49900>>49913

Fursona = representation of a furry

OC = Fursona of someone who "hates furries" yet is one, i.e. a furry in denial

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 No.49901

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A fursona is largely just an avatar. It's what a person uses to represent themselves, to the furry community. Most fursonas are based upon the person in question, having a similar personality and likes/dislikes, but often they can just be the OC that this person uses, and which becomes associated with them. In this second case, it would still be called a fursona, even if it's not really like the person who owns it.

For example, an actor's role is usually not how they are as a person; it's just an act. But over time, the two can become so tightly associated that they are almost synonymous. Hugh Jackman IS Wolverine, despite the fact that he probably isn't anything like that in real life.


 No.49905>>49913

a fursona is just you but as an anthro character

I think it can deviate a bit from who you are personality-wise, but otherwise it's mostly just a self-designation that you use to say "yeah that's who I am in this world of furfags"


 No.49908>>49909 >>49910 >>49911

>male guy irl

>fursona is a female

Is this some closet tranny shit going on? Saw a faggot in the fursona thread having exactly this.


 No.49909

>>49908

Shit like this is part of what makes me(OP) ask this in the first place. It's the question of, "Can this even be considered a fursona"


 No.49910

>>49908

what if I just want to be a cute dragon woman on the Internet but have no qualms with being a guy IRL


 No.49911>>49943

>>49908

>Is this some closet tranny shit going on?

Sort of. There's a little bit of wiggle-room in the design, as most fursonas are complete wish-fulfillment. Most men are going to have a fursona that is more attractive, physically fit, and well-endowed than they are... and of course also an anthropomorphic animal. As I said, it seems largely to be a matter of personality. No avatar, of any kind, is going to be a perfect match to the owner, physically, unless it's a Facebook picture of their literal face. Nobody is a fox in real life.


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>>49900

>/thread'ing yourself

Sure, faggot.

>>49905

I don't agree, but I think there's a seed of truth in there.

It doesn't have to be "you as an anthro character", but I think

>yeah that's who I am in this world of furfags

is the main goal of a fursona and possibly the only thing that can be agreed upon when it comes to the damn things.

A fursona is something you use to identify yourself.

OCs can be fursonas, but they don't have to be.

If you've got an assortment of OCs and favor an anthro one that you often like to use as an avatar, that character is your fursona since you use it to identify yourself.

You'd have multiple OCs, but only the one you use as an identity online would be your fursona.

If you just prefer to be identified solely by name or something else, you don't have to have a fursona and you can have OCs without any of them being one as well.


 No.49917>>50070

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"Fursona" is literally just "furry persona", that's where the name comes from.


 No.49943>>50134

>>49911

All imaginary characters ever made have some sort of wish-fulfillment associated with them.

But a character doesn't necessarily have to be a persona.

DnD characters are actually personas. The player "becomes" his character, roleplays as his character, he's expected to talk and act as if he was the character itself.

But the act is temporary. The player doesn't act as his character outside of the DnD session, he might even switch between different characters as he sees fit.

Fursonas are usually unique (as in, only one) for each person. The guy will obsessively talk, think and act like his fursona even outside the furry fandom.

Characters are just characters. You come up with its backstory and personality and bring it to life in art, writing, etc. That's it. You don't introduce yourself to others IRL as your character. You don't dress up as your character. Furries do.


 No.50070

>>49917

woah...really?


 No.50082>>50083

>>49899 (OP)

the term you're looking for is self-insert, fursonas and OCs become different very quickly once you have a sense for what is a self insert and isnt a self insert

My latias sure as fuck isn't one but people sure like to keep telling me how they'd love to self insert into her


 No.50083>>50086

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>>50082

What's wrong with having a character to represent yourself within furrydom that shares traits with you and is only somewhat idealised?


 No.50085

i dont identify with any characters i create, anthro or otherwise. fursona is created so furfags can identify as them.


 No.50086>>50099

>>50083

What's wrong with you not firmly securing your mouth airtight around my huge dripping sweltering hot musky cock?


 No.50099>>50107

>>50086

Only problem is I need a little more romance than that. Not much but a little.


 No.50102>>50121

>>49899 (OP)

A fursona is definitely not just any furry character.

A fursona is the equivalent of an avatar. It should not have any story, except perhaps your own.

It shouldn't be a "character", if you will, outside of who you are.

OCs meanwhile are, for lack of a better term, their own people.

They are not you. They have a story, a perspective, they have character.

Even in the case of self inserts, they are separate from you.


 No.50107

>>50099

Just shut the fuck up and get in position.


 No.50121>>50123

>>50102

>A fursona is the equivalent of an avatar.

>It should not have any story, except perhaps your own.

That doesn't sound like something worth applying to avatars.

People use avatars of literally anything.

If someone uses an image of King Kazma on Steam, and that persons' friends start to tie that one image of KK to him, is the kung fu rabbit effectively a fursona?

Since he's now a functioning avatar for that person to the point that people that know him begin to think of him when they see Kazma, or at least that particular image of Kazma, does he stop being an OC?

Honestly I think that particular argument between OCs and self-inserts should be kept completely separate from defining what constitutes a fursona.

It'd probably make more sense to try and settle on whether or not only self-inserts count as fursonas, or if OCs or even characters owned by someone other than the person trying to use it can be as well.


 No.50123>>50136

>>50121

Equivalent does not mean is.

Though, regardless, the image of Kazma would be their 'face' if you will, in regards to steam. It's the lot they display. Think of it as a mask.


 No.50134>>50211

>>49943

>The guy will obsessively talk, think and act like his fursona even outside the furry fandom.

Literally nobody actually does this. Suiting at a con and keeping in-character doesn't count.


 No.50136

>>50123

>Think of it as a mask.

Yeah, an alias.

It's the point of an avatar, it's used to represent someone or something.

It's what people use to hide behind and identify each other online instead of personal information.

That's all a fursona is, an avatar, a tag, a representation of the user with which to be identified by others that happens to be furry in some fashion.

I get that someone can have a fursona without ever using it as a literal website avatar.

Hell, Nick Nocturne and Night Mind is probably a pretty good example of that.

Whether or not the guy's a furry, he's got an anthropomorphic four-eyed humanoid cat OC that he's given strong ties to the channel despite never using him as a website avatar as far as I can tell, I just checked his youtube, twitter, tumblr, and patreon but they all use the logo as an avatar

For anyone that watches his stuff, that cat is an avatar of his channel and especially him.

Even if he isn't a furry, I wouldn't call someone wrong for labeling the character a fursona.

Basically, as long as a character is intentionally being used as directly representative of a person in some way, and is an anthropomorphic animal of some kind, it's a fursona regardless of any other qualities the character itself might have. imo


 No.50211>>50223

>>50134

>literally nobody does this

>nobody outside of the overwhelming majority who do X and/or Y, but including X and Y would prove me wrong so they don't count lol

Arguing skills of a five-year-old.


 No.50223

>>50211

The original wording was "even outside of the furry fandom" so fuck all y'all. Nobody (does it inside AND outside the fandom).


 No.50758>>50762

>>49899 (OP)

A fursona is used to represent a person online but sometimes OCs are but then they'll say it's separate but can you have multiple fursonas as people have multiple OCs but not all OCs represent the creator but sometimes they do but sometimes they do and don't when it's inconvenient and implies things about the creator

the answer is it's all bullshit


 No.50762

>>50758

We can't even agree on the definition of "furry", here.


 No.50774

>>49899 (OP)

The reason people don't agree on the definitions is because... wait for it... people don't agree on the definitions.

If you're talking to someone and you don't already know what they mean when they say 'fursona' or whatever, then bloody ask what they mean when they say it.

MOST COMMONLY, I have found, a fursona is the character the the artist most strongly associates themselves with- basically an avatar of the artist- even if they have other furry or anthro characters.




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