/fur/ - Furry★

Straight people are weird -w-

>he fell for the zoophilia meme

Sad!

Someone is afraid of the gay.

>fandom

>I just want to see animals fucking

You need to fuck of and learn how to use e621

There's plenty of s/fur to go around for everyone, Anon

>>45048 (OP)

>animals fucking

>>>/zoo/

>>45048 (OP)

You know... I'd rather draw straight but since that shit won't appeal to girls because muh feminism, I draw for gays.

>>45058

>>45050

C'mon there is a reason why we fap to those half animal monsters instead of other shit.

There's three times as much straight content as gay content in furry, and that's only counting the porn. In SFW and professional works, it's basically 100% straight.

>>45080

Most furs with a brain know this, but hate is hate.

>>45080

He's probably referring to the amount of high-quality and non-paywalled comics and VNs that cater to gays. They're more professional at this moment because the content is niche and taboo.

>>45121

I'm sure that's not counting everything that doesn't have a "straight" tag since it's just implied to be "straight".

>>45080

>taking the bait

Though, I'd personally disagree, at least when it comes to the higher quality stuff. There's a lot of really shitty straight porn, by all means, and in terms of raw numbers, you might be right because of it.

But it seems the really good aritsts are either bisexual, or go rather heavy into gay.

Personally, I'd not complain much, anyway. You can filter that shit out easily enough on your main imagedump sites, so what's it really matter I say.

Only thing I dislike is the rather heavy pressuring in various chats and comments towards it, but that's more of a culture thing, than anything to do with content.

All this said, you are completely right on the SFW front. I'd blame that on the sexual obsession of furry, myself, though. It's difficult to find anything romantic, in general, when it comes to furshit. Gooks are about the only ones I see ever even give effort.

>>45140

It also depends on your interpretation of "straight".

Do pictures of females solo count?

What about a female using toys on another?

"Straight" starts to get a bit blurry, when effectively, all it is is "female focus".

>>45143

>>45140

If you're going to spout this shit then you have to include every male solo picture and possibly every bisexual picture as gay which would up the divide even more.

Maybe in like 2 or 3 more fallacies, reality will bend to fit your narrative. Go ahead, give it a try.

>>45143

>yeah but uuuh pictures with girls in them are straight

why are so many redditors on this board right now?

>>45143

>but uuuh a picture of a girl is straight

fuck off redditor.

man, what is it with reddit invading /fur/ today?

>>45048 (OP)

>>>e621.net

>-gay

There, everything ungay, ripe for masturbation.

>>45048 (OP)

>>>e621.net

>-gay

There, everything ungay, ripe for masturbation.

>>45144

I've not really got stock in the argument myself. I'm just saying it really depends on the way you define the terms, as they're rather loose. I would've thought male solo shit was gay, personally.

>>45121

>>45121

I don't know which website this is, but I only use e621 for statistics because it's the only one where tag usage is decent, as it's MANDATORY. There, male/female outnumbers male/male. As for the solo pics, you have to understand the different way furries think compared to normies. A picture of a female with big tits is porn for straight men; a picture of a male with a big dick is wish-fulfillment for the same straight men. Every OC or fursona of a straight man drawn nude isn't somehow made "gay". But all the drawn women are certainly "straight" by context.

All your numbers tell me is that faggots are more particular about tagging their shit, on that website.

>>45157

Except that it resolves to "male/male" now, and also doesn't account for ambiguous genders.

>>45175

No anon, e621 bases gender on "visible genitals". You can have a known female character but unless they are actively showing tits or a vagina, it's ambiguous. Same for males. There is overlap in content.

>>45167

A picture of a male is sure as fuck not for straight men, mate.

That's just maximum tier retardation.

You sure as the ever living fuck do not click on a picture of a naked man to jerk off, and claim to be straight.

>>45177

The "straight" tag applies to the characters engaged in the sex, not your orientation, dummy.

>>45175

Where e621 is concerned, it's rather often obviously a male They're just retarded about the lot, probably due to vagibros.

Seriously, click through the tag some time.

There's also some serious niggery about the whole "WHAT THE ARTIST SAYS DOESN'T ACTUALLY MATTER".

It's why I typically just filter that too.

>>45179

>Where e621 is concerned, it's rather often obviously a male

That's because most artists can't draw recognizable secondary sex characteristics on non-humans, so if there's no tits or pussy showing you can't tell its a female. Your mind will automatically default to thinking it's a male, in that case.

>>45167

>every picture of a solo male isn't gay

>but every picture of a solo girl is straight

ahahaha this nigga hahahahahahahahaha

>>45186

Yes? That's how the porn industry always worked. "Straight" porn magazines/channels on TV most of the time show solo females and never males while "gay" channels/magazines show solo males all the time.

>>45184

I'd blame it on, as I mentioned, their policy of labeling most anything what doesn't clearly show genitalia or tits as "ambiguous", usually despite the author's statements on the lot.

>>45189

The problem is that a lot of furries are kinda crazy sjws like PK, her statements change all the time and refuse to aknowledge that the tags are for biological sex.

>>45189

Considering there's more art of females than males, you'd think most cases of "ambiguous" would actually be female.

>>45121

IIRC, straights make up slightly more than The Gay Community in furfagdom. However, even straights will still commission gay porn (gay porn with their straight char in it), and gays tend to commission more gay porn than straights.

>>45069

>"we"

>>>/monster/

>>45142

>clean pic

>two bros hugging

>tags: gay

e621 deserves to burn.

>>45175

>ambiguous genders

Now THIS is a meme that needs to die.

>clearly female

>"It's a FtM while still keeping the boobs and vagina"

>tags: male

tumblr was a mistake.

>>45203

>artist makes a cuntboy character

>but don't call him a cuntboy you cis scum

>puts himself on the DNP list when his cuntboy character gets tagged as a cuntboy

>>45203

Why the fuck do gay people have a "community" but straight people don't? Is there a Jew Community and Black Community, too? Fucking come on.

>>45206

>artist makes a male bird

>Uses proper bird anatomy

>retards tag as female

>finally fight off that, now it's just tagged as 'ambiguous gender'

>tfw no glorious male cloaca

>>45211

There is both those things, though.

The difference is, while it's technically a 'community' much in the same way as the "gaming community", or the "tabletop community", and so on, the people within don't identify or otherwise make their 'community' a lifestyle. They don't make it hte base of their character.

The "Gay community", much like the "furry community", typically implies the lifestyle fags what literally use their orientation, or fetish in the case of furries, as their entire identity.

>>45219

>Says that the bird is a male

>Still tagged ambiguous

>Writes in the margins "this bird is male!"

>Still tagged ambiguous

>Draws an internal fucking diagram of the bird's anatomy showing the testicles

>Finally tagged as male

>...but only that particular page

>>45221

The rule is "tag what you see" in each individual image.

>>45220

>Straight people don't use their orientation as their entire identity

>Spend all of teen years chasing girls and bragging about the pussy they may or may not have gotten

>Find a woman and get married and have kids and then revolve their entire life around this woman and the spawn of their successful breeding

>Success in old age commonly measured by number of years still married to this woman

>Buried next to each other

I just don't see how people like you can be so willfully ignorant of reality.

>>45317

Considering they don't feel the need to shout out 'I AM STRAIGHT' , have straight parades, go to straight clubs, and actually advertise themselves and their community as 'gay', I'd certainly say so.

I don't know who you're talking about here. I didn't chase no girls, nor did anyone I know. Maybe it's different in some shithole cities, but where I'm from, most folk are fairly relaxed. There's a few, sure, but they're the low quality shitbags.

I'd make the argument that having kids and raising a family isn't a matter of sexual orientation.

People've got this idea of 'tru luv'. Do gays not get love? Do you not measure your own relationship success by the years you've been together?

>>45399

>shout out 'I AM STRAIGHT'

Talking about all the ass they've tapped is basically that.

>go to straight clubs

You mean all the clubs that aren't gay clubs?

>having kids and raising a family isn't a matter of sexual orientation

Tell that to roughly half the country that wanted to ban gay people from doing either of those things.

>>45219

I like cloacae :3

>>45433

Welcome to the club, my friend. Cloaca > Nasty bleeding axe wound

>>45402

Seriously, I don't know anyone who does that. Closest I've ever seen is this one dudebro shitboot type what kept saying how hot people who came in were.

Stop living in the ghetto.

Yes, instead of going to a 'straight club', they can go to literally any club that isn't 'gay club'.

They can go to the 80's club, the BDSM club, the smoking club, and so on.

Children need both sexes of parents. It's rather harmful to their development otherwise. See the black family, by large.

>>45437

>Children need both sexes of parents. It's rather harmful to their development otherwise

Well, considering gay people can't reproduce naturally, their only choice is adoption. There are FAR more children in need of adoption than there are families who want them. This means that, for every gay couple denied a child for bullshit reasons as this one, there is a child that will be stuck in an orphanage or foster limbo until adulthood, which has been proven to be even WORSE for their development.

Also, adopted children are statistically better-off than those who are not, because people don't need any sort of qualification to successfully breed. You can be poor, dumb, abusive, live on the streets, not have a job, and still legally bring a child into the world; you don't even have to LOVE or WANT the child.

But if you want to adopt? You have to be upper-middle-class or better, in a nice neighborhood, have stable jobs, pass psyche exams and a background check, etc., all before you'll even be considered to adopt a child. Having a stable home, going to a good school, being well-fed and loved and supported are all factors that are MUCH more important to a child's well-being than having a mommy and daddy. These are all things a child is guaranteed to have if they are adopted, because it's a requirement. It's not as simple as walking down to the nearest orphanage, signing some paperwork, and she doesn't even know that you're actually an ex-criminal mastermind with an underground lair full of annoying yellow fuckers.

>>45464

>But if you want to adopt? You have to be upper-middle-class or better, in a nice neighborhood, have stable jobs, pass psyche exams and a background check, etc., all before you'll even be considered to adopt a child. Having a stable home, going to a good school, being well-fed and loved and supported are all factors that are MUCH more important to a child's well-being than having a mommy and daddy. These are all things a child is guaranteed to have if they are adopted, because it's a requirement. It's not as simple as walking down to the nearest orphanage, signing some paperwork, and she doesn't even know that you're actually an ex-criminal mastermind with an underground lair full of annoying yellow fuckers.

You have a materialistic and idealistic mentality if you think that "love" is gauged by the amount of assets you give to your child, and they're denied because a lot of them think like you. They think that buying cable and videogame consoles would make them great parents. Yes, those factors make it easier, but there's plenty of poor or dumb families that have a strong bonds with each other despite the bad circumstances they have with each other. An integral part of life is overcoming hardship in your early ages because you need to learn how to cope with loss. Otherwise, you would take losses hard later in your life.

Rather than shrugging additional minor problems off or avoiding them, you would be obsessively fixated with every issue out there for a long length of time. Am I denying that a mommy and daddy will never be flawed? Not exactly, but a mommy and daddy is always important than materialism.

>>45470

Bro, you're supposed to throw the bait, not the entire pole.

>>45470

I was going to make a reply, but this guy basically said what I was going for.

It ain't the assets you have, so much as it is the quality of character and love you give.

I do agree that adoption requirements are quite strict, though.

In any case, having both a mother and a father are pretty much the top determining factor in raising a kid. 'Least if we're arguing actual functionality and quality of character, rather than say how much he makes, or how well he does in school.

Neither of those are good markers, you ask me.

>>45080

But the gay ones tend to be better

t. butthurt straight(dickgirls aren't gay)fag

>>45485

YOU aren't gay

>>45153

>>45151

Samefagging makes you look super cool

I hear you. Bi-curious for femboys but 95% in it for the spread minge. It's been dead since 2013 for pussy outside of Nuzzo and a few others. Even the gay shit I'd want to jerk off to is rare, most of it being mammoth human dicks slapped on sparkledogs or the same stock characters with a "dick in your face" pose rarely presenting an asshole. Only exceptions being Tokijfuji, Raijii, and some kemono artists. Most of the straight content is breasts and frontal nudity that avoids vag (or simplifies it) now and the intersex stuff is just as bad with the front dick and nothing to stick it in posing. Furry porn became another television; repetitive lowest common denominator content and advertising with the advent of Patreon and gutting of E621 with DNP, it's just going to get worse.

TL;dr

The only ones with universally good tastes in porn are feminine cuntboys. You know what you have to do.

>>45470

That's all fine and good, but eating shitty food and not being able to attend school because your family is too poor, or living in a neighborhood where there is crime and drugs and bad influences all around are objective, measurable detriments to a child's development. Your reducing this down to mere materialism is completely inane. Since you speak decent English, and both own and can use a computer, you've never been truly poor. You don't know what it's like, and have some pretty stupid assumptions about it. All those millions of people in jail for peddling drugs or robbing convenience stores or other minor crimes? Most of them came from families in shitty situations like I described. Living on the fucking streets isn't simply what your childhood was like, except with a little more character-building "hardship". Did you just conveniently ignore the part where I said that they don't even have to love or want the child? Many of them don't. Many of them didn't even want a baby, and ended up with one by "accident", because they're at least self-aware to realize they aren't in a stable place to raise a child.

This hogwash about "mommy and daddy" is completely unsubstantiated, and is nothing more than appeal to tradition. If you want to convince anyone, you're going to actually provide an argument of substance, other than just "it is because it is". WHY is it bad if a child doesn't have exactly two parents, one of each sex? And do try to provide something objective and concrete, rather than complete vague nonsense like "actual functionality and quality of character" like the other guy said.

Keep in mind that no nuclear family exists in a vacuum. Just because a child is raised in a household with two mothers, for example, doesn't mean they will never have a male role-model in their life. Well-off families tend to have deep connections with the rest of their relatives, so the child will also have the love and support of grandparents, aunts and uncles and cousins, etc.. What the fuck do you think adoptive families do? Lock up the kid in the basement and never let them see people other than their parents?? Come on.

>>45529

Having a computer now doesn't prove someone has never been poor, mate. Growing up, my family was damn well poor. Mostly due to a string of bad luck, where my father kept losing jobs to really shitty circumstances, either a company going down, a rule-obsessed busybody, someone what simply had it out for him, and so on.

In any case, lacking one of the parents is also an objective, measurable detriment to the child.

All those millions of people in jail for peddling drugs or robbing convenience stores and other minor crimes? Most of them came from broken households, usually lacking a father figure, let alone an actual one.

http://www.fathers.com/statistics-and-research/the-consequences-of-fatherlessness/

It's completely substantiated. There's quite a lot of research on the matter, in fact.

It isn't "just because". It's because you need both parental figures. The father, especially, is important for discipline, ambition, and morality. The mother is also vital, encouraging nurture, empathy, and social interaction.

>>45529

I don't view it from a traditionalist perspective as I'm basing it off what I heard from statistics, but you can more or less accuse me of making an appeal to nature. If the alternative were effectively good, then you would see it practiced a long time ago. You could argue that humans were limited by external factors despite societies like the Greek/Roman Empire existing, but you don't see those permanent pairings with animals either.

>>45058

>>45203

>so much denial

>>45565

>so much projection

>>45578

>I put animal heads on human bodies and fap to it!

>I'm not a zoophile though!

God I know all furries are sick in the head at some point but that's not an excuse for denying this hard, there is literally no other explanation for furry fetish.

>>45579

Whoa, don't dump in the whole can of bait at once!

>>45596

>lel is b8

Explain, why furries lust for animals or people with animal traits? Fox head?Tail? Why?

>>45605

> do these look alike to you?

No. One of them I'd like to lie down in bed and suck his penis until he comes in my mouth. And the other one is a drawing.

>>45598

>>45605

But why animal traits and not other kinds of aliens/monsters? This is zoophilia.

>>45632

wew lad

>>45605

Ah. I wanna fluff it!

Look at it, it's 80% fur!

This will forever be the only canine I like.

>>45632

Oh, you.

>>45579

It's an ayy thing for me.

>>45597

People with animal traits because they're different. Even most quadruped characters in the fandom talk and think like people. If furries were all just zoophiles, they'd all whack off to non-sapient quads. The human element and sapience would tend to suggest that those aspects attract people-- if they didn't care about them, they wouldn't include them. Sapience means they're able to consent, and to respond to romantic/sexual advances in ways that're not just instinct, and it seems most furries want that.

Of course, if it's your strong belief that we're really just zoophiles in denial, nothing I or anyone says will convince you otherwise.

>>45746

>If furries were all just zoophiles, they'd all whack off to non-sapient quads.

Unless you yourself are a zoo, you're not qualified to speak for zoos. What you said is a load of shit

t. zoo

>>45173

-gay male female -ambiguous

If you have an account, just code what you want into a blacklist.

>>45757

This would have the opposite effect. More straight people go to cons because they tend to be more sociable and normie in general.

>>45757

oh my, such a beautiful snake <3

>>45757

Your target should be furry twitter, not furry cons. They're pretty gay and obnoxiously loud on there. I can't wait for it to be used in an out of context tweet.

>>46125

>straight furries are more sociable than gays

>straight furries disproportionately go to cons

I confess I've never been to a con but I was under the impression that

1) They had basically degenerated into gay sex parties where faggots get drunk/high and have orgies

2) Straight male furries are largely NEETs/neckbeards who scare off the already small female furry population with creepy behavior

2.1) Female furries are mostly underage, professional artists exploiting furfags for a living, or SJWs/hamplanets

2.2) Most straight male furries either drop out of the fandom early or get desperate enough to turn bi and join the gay orgies

So while I don't doubt you have more relevant experience than me I need proof just because you're literally saying the polar opposite of what I assumed to be true.

>>46442

"Normie" straights make up probably over half the fandom going to cons, and "normie" gays maybe a quarter. The remaining quarter are the NEETs who never leave home, the ugly neckbeards, the people having orgies (don't be fooled: the only reason you could call them "gay" is because there are more males; when everyone is in suits it's just lots of people fucking the ass in front of them, with no idea of what the person inside actually is, male or female), etc.. It's just that these types are so loud and annoying, especially online, that they overshadow the normies.

To be honest, ANYWHERE you get together a shitton of rich 20-somethings, there's going to be orgies and people getting drunk and high. Just like how they are in college.

>>45048 (OP)

I don't mind gays enjoying their gay art. What i do mind is aggressive butthurt faggots that won't stop bitching and complaining whenever they see boobs in a picture.

>>46564

The only people who ever seem to make a big deal about anything are you and the other whiny breeders bitching about fags all the time. Get over yourselves.

>>46146

How do you gas someone through twitter?

>>46572

The fandom of today is vastly different than that of 2000 and before. I've picked up bits of evidence that there was a concerted effort to make this change, but I haven't looked into it enough to support my claims.

>>46456

What are the chances for me to get a qt furry gf at a con?

>>46608

Fair. About as high as any large crowd.

>>46678

For the majority of straight furries they'd do it so long as it was a girl with big tits fucking them.

>dick solo

Not entirely gay. Of course fags are into it, but tumblr is also into cock and that's why they draw it so much.

>vag solo

Same thing with some differences. Men are into it, so are lesbos.

>female fucking a male

Femdom. Tumblr loves this also.

>>45048 (OP)

But you want to fuck gay frogs.

>>46680

well dickgirls are a bit less weird than cuntgirls are so there's that...

>>46678

Of course not. Don't be stupid. Cubs aren't old enough to jizz.