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 No.42661>>42663 >>42706 >>42873 >>42961 >>43176 [Watch Thread][Show All Posts]

You keep hearing "furry community" this "furry community" that all the time, but how big actually is the community / how big is the fandom?

There are 7.5 billion people in the world, and yet you keep seeing the same people all the time.

Is it really so small, or is there a secret place where the masses hang out?

 No.42663>>42700 >>42820 >>42877 >>52117

>>42661 (OP)

It's much more visually bloated than what there really is. People have multiple accounts on FA, DA, Inkbunny etc. I'm hoping it'sin the 2-300,000 range, but I fear the worst. Too many basket cases allowed to roam free.


 No.42668>>42693 >>52213

All the "furry community" and "fandom" talk is crap.

There are a multitude of differing individual communities, not a single collective.

There is no "furry fandom" because a fandom needs fans around a particular thing to follow. Furry is an interest in anthropomorphic animals in general, which involves many different series and thus many different fandoms.

Cults of personality is a symptom of large porn focused communities where many aren't fans of the content, but fans of the artists giving them the content. There's little to be invested in jerking it to whatever boring anthro is sticking their ass out for them or rule 34 of characters they never personally got invested in. There's not much of interest but the artists giving them their fix and what the artists are getting themselves into.

Then add in the parts of these communities focused on self insertion without a creative use for the persona, and the hordes looking to be a part of an accepting community rather than having a serious interest in anything related to subject. In those motivations what is there but personality? It's the recipe for drama around a few figureheads who manage to make their name in a sea of people looking for attention or belonging.


 No.42693>>42700

>>42668

so your size estimate?


 No.42700>>42703

>>42693

At least several millions for people just super into anthropomorphic characters, but extremely small populations for communities around the general interest.

A few hundred thousand in among the usual communities we see, as >>42663 hopes for. The worst and usually the loudest groups of these keep more balanced communities from gathering because of the slanted perception they give of what furry communities must need to be like.


 No.42703

>>42700

it feels like you see/come across/meet couple thousands at best actually


 No.42704>>42706 >>42708 >>42713

There really is no fandom. "Furry" has become a catch-all term for all the various anthro franchises. This is largely why so much drama exists, a bunch of unrelated fandoms got packed together under a generic label and they don't really have an excuse to associate or get along. Even most of the separate fandoms have massive infighting, then combine that with various fandoms fighting each other.

The only real unification going on is that pedos like to use the "loli & cub are not illegal" loophole to indulge their mentally ill Trump-approved fetish. Why else are many f them leaning conservative now? Trump has had numerous pedophile friends such as Michael Jackson and they just love dick sucker Milo endorsing their shit as "natural".


 No.42706

>>42661 (OP)

It's large, but you'll either get vocal avatar using fappers or artists.

>>42704

You guys are really bad at shilling and convincing people. You frequently conjure fake strawmen as opposed to attacking their actual arguments because you're aware that your ideals are objectively wrong by default.

If you're talking about who's worse and not why your ideals aren't better, then it says a lot of you than it does about them.


 No.42707>>42710 >>44068

>have FA since 2008

>have IB since 2013

>upload hundreds of drawings

>only once ever get a PM from someone

i'm seriously convinced that the guys who have a huge list of friends on their profiles actually don't speak to any of them.


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>>42704

You started out sensible and then you went full fucking off-topic retard. Christ man, leave your activism at the door.


 No.42710>>42715

>>42707

There are many possible reasons for that.

Do you correctly tag and title your art?

Does your profile give off a vibe of friendliness?

Do you draw content that people already search for?

Most importantly perhaps, are you skilled?


 No.42713

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>>42704

Thats a common thing for any groups of people sharing an interest, that bunch of stuff thats seemingly the same from a bystander perspective gets labeled together while within the label the individual subfactions despise one another. There are some sociological studies even, but I forgot whats the phenomenon called so I dont have a keyword to look up to fetch them.

anyhow, fuck you and your /pol/cuck propaganda, the second half of your post is just forced offtopic


 No.42715>>42717

>>42710

>okay

>irrelevant

>okay

>HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH absolutely motherfucking irrelevant


 No.42717>>42726

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>>42715

Alright, so you're unfriendly and unwilling to take initiative in starting friendships. I think we've found the problem.


 No.42726>>42733

>>42717

I'm not even that guy, I was just making observations on the validity of your questions


 No.42728>>42738 >>42814

Let's do a Fermi estimate to get a ballpark figure of how many furry fans there are.

- The top 20 furry conventions of the past year had a combined total attendance of 50,000 (source: http://en.wikifur.com/wiki/List_of_conventions_by_attendance)

- Multiple-convention goers are offset by convention-goers who aren't furry (eg, underage furries bringing their family, people who only go to sell wares, etc.)

- Let's say that about 1 in 100 furries has attended one of these conventions in the past year

50,000×100=5,000,000

There are about 5 million furry fans in the world, or at least that order of magnitude. You can change the second number if you think it should be different.


 No.42733>>42735 >>42740

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>>42726

And laughing at something you disagree with is constructive criticism?

I didn't mean skilled like Da Vinci...skilled enough to draw decent porn and not autistic-tier MS Paint garbage.


 No.42735

>>42733

this really activates my windows


 No.42738>>42743

>>42728

I don't go to conventions.


 No.42740>>42742 >>42759

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>>42733

There needs to be a program that can detect if an art piece has been drawn in MSPaint; if so, it automatically bans the user when uploading. Also sends a drone strike to their house.


 No.42742>>42748 >>42826

>>42740

stfu, scubadad is chill


 No.42743

>>42738

What's your point? The conservative estimate was that only 1% of furries do.


 No.42748

>>42742

You get the drone too


 No.42759

>>42740

There is nothing wrong with using MSPaint. Pixels are pixels. All "advanced" photomanipulation software does is allow you to do things faster and easier like blending and shading by using layers. But anyone can make anything in Paint if they're willing to do it one pixel at a time. Contrariwise, anyone can use Photoshop to draw something really shitty.

Now get your cute foxcub ass over here. I'll fuck that smug right off your face, and you'll like it.


 No.42814

>>42728

Yeah that was about my estimate based on how often I meet them on the internet.


 No.42818

No archive?


 No.42819>>42877

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Mods are completely one sided yet again, shocking


 No.42820>>42824

>>42765

You mean this? >>42663

Because they don't look like SS soliders to me. Quit sperging.


 No.42824

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>>42820

>SS logo

>'SS furry fam'

Does it take practice to be this retarded?


 No.42826

>>42742

what the fuck does chill mean


 No.42835

The furry community is wide, but its definition is vague and hard to calculate, because people who can be viewed as furries don't always accept being called furries. And there are otherwise normal people who get labeled a furry based on what they draw or have been depicted as doing.

Example: People have called Agent 47 a furry because of that one time he could wear a mascot costume.

Other example: Someone could engage in bestiality, but not necessarily be considered a furry.

The lines are too hard to draw, and thus, even if you could census everyone who calls themselves a furry, the numbers would probably vary in the thousands between who you ask


 No.42839

>>42837

dude. you're no better than /pol/.


 No.42873>>42877

>>42661 (OP)

Where do you hang out? Generally you'll keep seeing the same people if you don't actively look for new people. Either that, or it's selection bias.


 No.42877

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>>42819

I'll teach you how handle situations on your own like an adult

>>42663

That much at least for the active communities we see the most of, but I'd bet there are plenty others, probably alienated by the nature and publicity of them.

Also isn't that a picture politically related? Don't randomly post stuff like that, anon.

>>42819

Note the lack of passive aggressive responses to other posters, no posting of political propaganda, and no extensive derail to be deleted and then obliviously complained about.

>>42873

Don't test me

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 No.42961

>>42661 (OP)

>Furry community

It's cancer. The word is cancer, to begin with. "Community" shit is always fucking horrible.

Just be fans of a thing and be done with it.

Why do we need a "community" so heavily defined? Can't we just have an interest and occasionally get together?


 No.42968>>42976 >>43017

Requesting edits of "the gay community" with "the furry community"


 No.42976

>>42968

There's a difference?


 No.43017>>43035

>>42968

edits of what?


 No.43035>>43037

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>>43017

He means AJ Styles, "The Gay Community" meme. I'll upload some pics for Anons who want to save & exploit them.


 No.43037>>43044 >>43055

>>43035

>The gay community

>Bearded ugly men in their 30s

I don't think so.


 No.43044

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

 No.43055

>>43037

>Bearded ugly men in their 30

There's a difference? i love bara men, but i dont dig the community Anyway, it's AJ Styles, WWE superstar.


 No.43130

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could this thread actually be about whats in the OP?


 No.43176>>43535

>>42661 (OP)

I always wonder about this whenever I want to discuss something furry related and I realize there's barely any places I can do that. How many furry related chans or forums are there that aren't completely dead and/or cancerous?


 No.43535

>>43176

no idea, heck I dont even know where the normiefurs hang out, furrynetwrok?


 No.44003>>44012 >>44078 >>44080

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so much for the "community" standing up when one of the members who happens to be a public figure loses his job for being part of the "community"


 No.44012>>44015

>>44003

I tweeted my support at him but what else do you want us to do?


 No.44015

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>44012

I WNAT YOU TO GET MAD


 No.44068>>44080

>>42707

I'd PM artists if I thought they wanted to hear from people who appreciate what they draw. I only ever see online artists complaining about getting too many PMs and not getting too little, so I just assume I'd be contributing to some kind of problem.


 No.44078

>>44003

>greymuzzle has an inkbunny

>he watches Aogami

>mein sides


 No.44080>>44408 >>44417

>>44003

I couldn't give less of a shit. He shot himself in the head. No one spied on him, this wasn't some invasion of privacy thing, he's not some innocent victim. He's a public figure and he knew damn well what would happen if people saw him at a fetish convention in a fetish costume, and he did it anyway and gave up his anonymity willingly by removing his mask in front of hundreds of people.

He wanted this. Maybe he hated his job.

>>44068

i think they're lying about that shit too, or when they say "stop pming me for roleplay!" i've never had anyone PM me for roleplay, either. maybe it's just a ... preemptive measure, or fashionable thing to say on your profile.


 No.44408

>>44080

you should give shit, because you could be the next one getting fired for your private life that never interfered with your work what so ever


 No.44417

>>44080

I think you tend to get unsolicited erotic messages from people when you have a popular character. I've known some people who did get those kinds of messages semi-frequently so they're not lying, not that it's really difficult to believe that furries might not have the firmest grasp of social norms.


 No.52117>>52181 >>52205

>>42663

Actually, the reality is that the "community" consists of only 15-20 THOUSAND individuals, max. (This includes Bronies.)

>That's the truth. Live with it or BTFO.


 No.52181

>>52117

Where did you get this number? The same place you keep your BD dildo when not in use?


 No.52205

>>52117

>15-20k in the entire world

That's a terrible estimate anon. What did you base that on?

In 2017, Anthrocon had 7,500 attendees, and Midwest Furwest had 7,000, now obviously some people might go to both, but if we put that aside and assume most of the people going to both are unique visitors, we're already at 14,500 people we can safely assume are Furries. So either 70% - 90% of all Furries globally attended these conventions, and 90% of all Furries are in the United States. Or... yknow maybe this is a lot bigger than what you think, and why wouldn't it be? Furry is a broad brush and a big tent.

Depending on how we define what we consider "A Furry" here, it could be anywhere between tens of thousands (if we're only talking "true furries" - convention going, fursuit wearing, has a lot of social interaction with other furries) to millions (people who don't call themselves furry, engage with the community, people who just draw anthro art, people who enjoy anthro art, people who get off to furry porn).

>Including bronies

1. Not all Bronies are Furries, but alright

2. Bronycon alone saw around 6,000 people in attendence this past year, and that's the people who cared enough to travel, or were able to travel to that convention. That's ignoring other brony conventions as well.


 No.52213>>52218 >>52225

>>42668

>All the "furry community" and "fandom" talk is crap.

Good, someone else fucking gets it.

Every time a thread here is posted with those magic dogwhistle words, it's a data-mining/profiling attempt.


 No.52218>>52225

>>52213

>Everything I don't like is datamining

Whenever you use a bullshit buzzword, God takes another day off of your lifespan.


 No.52225

>>52213

>"How many furries do you think there are?"

>DATAMINING! PROFILING! HE DESCRIBED A GROUP OF FANS AS A FANDOM HE'S A NARC

Do you even know how fucking stupid that sounds?

>>52218

If only.




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