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Why nippon furfags are less autistic/insane than western ones?
Nippon nerds are famous for being autistic and cancer but their furries(Kemono) are way less infamous than the rest of our fandom.Why?
▶ No.31314>>31316 >>31336
I wondered that for a while now. Maybe because it's not that big in Japan? Maybe because they have way more weird things in Japan? Maybe because Kemono art isn't as strongly connected to porn like western furry art? But I heard there's a decent bit of homophobia within the Kemono community.
Guess there are many factors.
▶ No.31316
>>31313 (OP)
You don't know much about their community because of the language barrier.
>>31314
No stigma towards sexuality.
▶ No.31317>>31318 >>31360
> but their furries(Kemono) are way less infamous t
Because it's a subgenre of Hentai to them, basically at the same level of thinking as "Rule 34" communities here (just with cute animals instead of mainstream cartoon characters). Western Furry took to the whole Lifestyle/Identity thing, but there's no 'Rule34ies Lifestyle/Identity'.
The Japanese Fursuiters are however /copying/ the Western scene, which is a bit distressing for those of us who admire that Kemono is a separate thing from Furry.
▶ No.31318>>31320 >>31334
>>31317
>copying
And they're doing a hell of a lot better job at it than we are.
▶ No.31320>>31321
>>31318
>western furfags giving a fuck about quality
>Tweening hacks getting more money than real animators
>Breeding season getting more money than any other furry project on patreon.
>veemonsito is one of the most popular furries on deviantart.
▶ No.31321>>31324
>>31320
Oh dear, I can see where this is going. Please, let's not have another "Fek sux" thread
▶ No.31324
>>31321
Did I just hear you retort the 'F' word? Be wary of your language, young lad.
▶ No.31334>>31340 >>38616
>>31318
>And they're doing a hell of a lot better job at it
Eh. JMoF sinks that suggestion... The bulk of the attendees are in boughtsuits, and those that aren't are generally Western-furry-level in quality. Don't let the regular reposts of the few reasonable fursuits fool you.
▶ No.31336>>31337
>>31314
I don't really normally like fursuits, given their horribly mascotish look, but this thing is absolutely grade A adorable.
▶ No.31337>>31511 >>31580
>>31336
It's a boughtsuit. I can't find the photo atm, but there's a pic of 4-5 of those same suits standing next to each other. If you're an Autistic with a few thousands to burn, you can have one too.
▶ No.31340>>31369
>>31334
>second pic
I wish furries used this kind of realistic fursuit mask instead of the "derp face" from the generic model, it's not childish and looks kinda cool.
▶ No.31345>>36645 >>36827 >>37367
Very simple
Western Ideology is based largely upon Jewish/Christian ideological trends stemming back to Europe to even before the enlightenment. The 'pagan' folk religions of that time were stamped out by an oppressive ideology attempting to seize power. A simple example of this would be Pan going from a Greek God to the physical representation of the devil. This also occurred to things like fairies, trolls, dogheads and other myths of the area.
To sum up, art and artistic expression for centuries of western culture was exclusively Jesus fanart or landscapes and if you attempted to do anything else you would be murdered under the excuse of witchcraft.
In the west, this trend didn't break more or less until things like Pulp magazines began publishing and re-introducing the fantastic to society. Now as anyone knows one of the most basic forms of this is an anthro-animal and we have a great example of this starting off with Mickey Mouse, Felix the Cat, Bugs Bunny and other such examples. Of course, that isn't to say that some lewd stories about fucking space bunnies or Fritz the Cat weren't around as well.
Of course, when the internet came out, there was a massive explosion of communication and propagation for all types of hobbies, sadly this is the exact same time some shithead was going around actively petitioning a bunch of fetishes to join in. Can't remember the name off the top of my head, but he's kind of responsible for a bunch of sex parties showing up. Safe to say there was a lot of degeneracy to be seen, and some furry pissed off one of the Goons at something awful by sleeping with his boyfriend or something and it became a meme to hate furries. This resulted in burned furs, people having to explain they aren't 'that' furry or just avoiding or lying about it entirely to avoid the drama.
Of course, all the crazy and fucked up fetishes that furries are accused of having finally splitting off into their own god damn communities is helping things turn around in the west.
Contrast that with Kemono in the east. A society that never had a major religion stomp all of their folk legends into the ground and demonized. A major god damn legend in their culture is a fox god that lures people away and sometimes is insinuated to fuck them. They have raccoons with gigantic magical testicles.
Kemono is just as odd as Furry in the west, but because people in japan don't react to it with all the maturity of seeing a doodie in the kiddie pool there's infinitely less stigma around it and thus much less distortion of the interest. There are still the pathetic loners that build freakish shrines and sex dolls among them, but they are rightfully less noticeable.
TL;DR- Japan just doesn't care, so there's less attention seeking.
▶ No.31360>>31364 >>53776
>>31317
>Because it's a subgenre of Hentai to them
What about the SFW crowd?
▶ No.31364
>>31360
It's something that anon totally glossed over. They do a ton of SFW because they manage to not be totally driven by their sexuality, thank goodness.
▶ No.31369
>>31340
Agreed. I could almost see suiting being taken seriously if the mascot face wasn't so common.
▶ No.31374>>53798
It's because of a deep cultural difference. The Japanese completely separate their "public" and "private" lives. You've heard about a person who "puts on a mask" in public? Well, the Japanese have formed an entire SOCIETY around it. Literally every social action they take, literally every word they say, is a careful and precise theater performance where (just like kayfabe) nobody dares break the fourth wall even if they all know it's bullshit.
If a Japanese person is into some deviant subculture like furry, you won't know it. They won't tell their friends, they won't post about it on their own social media pages. Americans are not like that; we shove every nasty and taboo thing about ourselves into the face of random strangers and wear it almost with some kind of perverse pride in being "different". The Japanese will never do that; being different is social suicide to them; they all live and die by appearing to follow the rules and mores of their culture with zero exceptions.
This is also why I know Bui isn't Itameshi. If it were, when dox information was released that was supposedly Bui/Itameshi, he would have immediately panicked at the prospect of his private fetish of being a furry porn artist connecting to his real name, and stopped drawing altogether.
▶ No.31403>>31474
They probably aren't. You just can't understand what they say, so you have little idea what goes on in those circles.
Also there's probably way less furries over there compared to the entire west which helps reduce the potential number of drama and controversy.
▶ No.31474>>31499
>>31403
>Also there's probably way less furries over there compared to the entire west which helps reduce the potential number of drama and controversy.
They probably have as many or more just due to sheer population.
▶ No.31499>>31504
>>31474
Don't be so sure about that. There's an estimated 40,000-50,000 currently-active Western Furries; yet popular Kemono artists on Twitter (like @s1120411/Yagi-chan) have over 35,000 followers.
Japan has a population of almost 130 million, and the countries involved with Furry total to around 600 million. As I see it, by avoiding the exclusive-fetish niche, Kemono is "10 times" more popular with people in general than Furry.
▶ No.31504>>31505
>>31499
Where'd you get that number? Some western furry websites alone have over 750,000 accounts registered.
▶ No.31505>>31506 >>31507
>>31504
> Some western furry websites alone have over 750,000 accounts registered.
....which ones?
FurAffinity: 22115 Users online --- 528 guests, 11044 registered and 10543 other
▶ No.31506
>>31505
Those are the users currently online at this very moment, not the total amount of users.
▶ No.31507
>>31505 (Me)
Eh, that is of course the "currently logged-in" figure at that moment. Searching around finds discussions mentioning FA saying it has 500,000 accounts... but I don't see that as a good value to use, as FA as 12 years of amassing dead/duplicate/forgot-me-password/spam/troll/exploit accounts.
▶ No.31511>>31532 >>31534
>>31337
>If you're an Autistic with a few thousands to burn, you can have one too.
Not really the creators of these suits tend to have absurdly huge wait lists for them. I follow one on FA and he posts journals about how his backlog would take him literal years to finish
▶ No.31532>>31534
>>31511
>his backlog would take him literal years to finish
At some point, he's going to get tired of making fursuits, and instead of stopping commissions and then keeping going for another few years, will just quit outright, leaving several years of commissioners just fucked over.
▶ No.31534>>31550
>>31511
>>31532
Too bad our fanbase is too small to be noticed by big business that could produce shit to us, small business are always risky and slow as fuck, that's why they're dying while walmart and others keep growing.
▶ No.31548
They are just as batshit crazy.
Dr. Comet grabbed his friends steering wheel and tried to drive him and group into oncoming traffic because he was told to shut up.
▶ No.31550>>53229
>>31534
The issue is that quality fursuits are all completely custom. What we would like is cheap and quick manufacturing like $10,000, consumer cars, but they're actually made more like $5million personalized Lamborghinis. There's waitlists of several years for those, too.
▶ No.31580
Has anybody here been to both a western and jp con?
>>31337
I think she's the one that makes those btw
▶ No.31876
Because Japan is a less spoiled, fat, and shitty country than America. Not by too much, but it's a considerable difference.
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▶ No.36827>>36833
I wouldn't think that Japanese furries are any less likely to be autistic than Western ones. Just replace the phrase "furfag" with "otaku" and you'll see what I mean. Unless your only previous experience with the word "otaku" has been in the context of weeaboos, but never mind
Japan is a somewhat repressed culture. They aren't any more degenerate than us (stick with me here) but they're under a lot more pressure to keep things on the down-low, which is part of how they've gotten away with censoring pornography for so long despite forbidding censorship in their constitution (in an eerie parallel with the United States) and which also explains why some of their porn can be a little fucked-up. Japanese furries would be more hesitant to discuss their hobbies in public, or if they did they would be sure to at least try and make it look like a respectable fancy rather than something they're super into.
In Freudian psychoanalysis, we'd call Japan as a whole anal-retentive. Not all of 'em, just the community as an average.
Meanwhile, in the West, and in the United States in particular, there's a lot of pressure for people to be, or to be perceived as, open and expressive. This is less the case in some European countries like England, but in the U.S. holy shit do we encourage people to express themselves. We have gay pride parades that aren't meant to be ironic even a little bit. Now obviously your average American isn't as garish as something you'd see in a gay pride parade, but it's worth noting that in Japan that kind of behavior is more reserved for gang members (not even kidding) and other people trying to rebel against society, whereas in the West you're more likely to have met someone who's actually like that. Much like in Japan, there's obviously pressure to be perceived as "professional" in certain environments, but we really like to encourage people to express themselves in their non-working life, and it really shows in how we talk about our hobbies IRL.
In Freudian psychoanalysis, the West is anal-expulsive. Well, I mean, not as bad as it could be, obviously, but moreso than any part of Asia, certainly.
This is only a small part of the picture, and other anons ( >>31345 >>31374 ) have gone into more detail with certain aspects of Japanese culture, but I think this is a big piece of the puzzle right here.
▶ No.36833>>36883
>>36827
To be fair, we did rewrite their culture pretty much, and I'm fairly sure their constitution was at least overseen by us. It isn't really a surprise that it's a near-copy of the US's.
▶ No.36883>>36889
>>36833
Interestingly actually it looks like the Liberal Democratic Party in Japan are trying to have their constitution rewritten. They essentially deleted Article 97 (inviolability of human rights) and gave the government hella more power. Jesus Christ.
▶ No.36888>>37223 >>37304 >>37332
>>31313 (OP)
oh get off your high horse
they're less infamous because they're not as well known in, you know, the west. because they're not in it.
and they are not sane either, how about minus8? can't draw or animate for shit and has a mental breakdown over every little thing
>t. person that's both into western and kemono
trying again since apparently i am not very awake
▶ No.36889>>36900
>>36883
That's sounds awful, got a source?
<hella
gb2oregon.
▶ No.36900
>>36889
Nothing concrete, but I do have Wikipedia, which has some sources. According to the article these are just drafts, hopefully ones which can be opposed by the other political parties and representatives assuming politicians over yonder give a shit about the rights of the citizens unlike over here.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_of_Japan#Amendment_Drafts_by_the_LDP
▶ No.36906>>39257
>>31313 (OP)
Literally the words of someone who doesn't know japanese.
▶ No.36952
Like everyone else has pretty much said, they're probably very similar in quality to our autistic spectrum, just overall smaller or more quiet about things. Who knows what drama & gossip goes on about 'popufurs' in Japanese circles that we're left out of because of, well, Japan.
You can look at bigger western furs & plenty of them have a million layers of drama & bullshit around them. Now, we look at bigger Eastern furs, like maybe Sindoll for example, and we just don't know if there's some sort of bullshit going on or not, because they are probably less open with their drama, and we don't know the language in the first place. Granted, maybe most of the bigger Eastern furs like Sindoll are completely awesome drama free people, unlike Western furs, but that still doesn't rule out the hordes of smaller autismos that have all the crazy fetishes & probably have plenty of drama.
▶ No.37123>>37140
>>31313 (OP)
Getting nuked does a hell of a thing to a tiny country where killing yourself used to be the greatest thing ever. The Japs don't really look down on as many things as the rest of the world does, I think.
▶ No.37128
What if it's actually just that you don't understand their language and so aren't privy to their autism
▶ No.37140>>37158
>>37123
You'd be wrong, actually. There's a lot of stuff that the Japanese hate. They can't stand anime, for one thing. Anime as a collective is a very small portion of the audience in Japan, and they've been looked down on since their inception in a way that I guess furries kind of have been here in the West. Now obviously we're talking about a country where you can buy used tampons out of vending machines, but the fact of the matter is that the Japanese take their personal dignity very seriously and aren't afraid to signal when someone else is doing something fucking retarded.
A good way to examine this is by examining how the Japanese discipline children. If a kid does something stupid in public, rather than taking them aside and whispering angrily at them like we would in America, a Japanese parent will start shouting at them in the middle of a crowd, and make it a point to signal to everyone that they don't approve of the child's behavior and are punishing it. Shame is a very big deal in Japan, in the same way that guilt is in Catholicism, and the act of shaming someone else isn't necessarily as taboo as it is out here. If I were to do a quick Freudian analysis of this, I would guess that this is because the Japanese consider shaming others into compliance an important part of ensuring healthy behavior among the group. So, no matter how many tampons you buy from those machines, and no matter how many other people you know who do it, you'll always be ashamed, and you'll always try to do it when no one's looking.
▶ No.37158>>37164
>>37140
>a Japanese parent will start shouting at them in the middle of a crowd, and make it a point to signal to everyone that they don't approve of the child's behavior and are punishing it
Well, there is another component to this, too. The parent must appear to the crowd to, themselves, be fulfilling the role of being a "good parent" by properly disciplining their child according to custom, regardless of whether or not they personally think it's right. Simultaneously, the child must submit to this shaming to appear to the crowd to be fulfilling the role of the "good child". What both of them are doing is akin to acting out a social play, rather than actually performing any sort of discipline or actually feeling shame about it.
▶ No.37164
>>37158
Hmm. I hadn't thought about it from that angle. Maybe this is an aspect of Japanese culture that had slipped by me, but I would never have thought that the child would be in on the "act." I guess that's an important part of establishing the appearance of shame that's so badly needed in their society.
See the sad thing is in Western culture even if it is just an act, which it surely must be at least as often as it is not, that would be considered child abuse, because the mere act of disciplining a child will get a whole lot of attention from those hippie types who think that any act of punishment is obscene and abusive. I guess that's what separates Asian cultures from Western ones, at least in this particular generation.
▶ No.37223>>37278 >>37308
>>36888
or sunibee
why are korean artists tend to be real eyecatchers but dramatards in public as well?
▶ No.37278>>37280
>>37223
It's been said before, but every human can be sad, irrational, or angry. It's just that foreign people appear chill to us because we don't know much about them or their culture.
▶ No.37280
>>37278
A funny example of this is the assumption by Americans that British people, and especially Englishmen, are more polite. They're not; they're just way better at sarcasm than most Americans, and as a general rule the English are more subtle with their insults than most of us from the US of A.
▶ No.37281
>>31313 (OP)
Why you no speaky english?
One would think you'd learn basic fucking subject/verb agreement after the last 50 of these autistic threads, but obviously you're too retarded.
▶ No.37304>>37321
>>36888
Minus8 is korean not nippon
▶ No.37308
>>37223
because koreans in general are pompous asswipes
▶ No.37321
>>37304
He moonspeaks and has squinted eyes. That's nippon enough.
▶ No.37332>>37363
>>36888
>has a mental breakdown over every little thing
Example?
▶ No.37363
>>37332
How's this?
There's also him spamming and deleting his tumblr because of a meltdown.
It's not like his shit is any good anyway, the guy thinks way too highly of himself and people going "omg minus8 is da best artist evar" about his half-assed wobbly shit is only fueling that.
▶ No.37367>>37427 >>37537
>>31345
Why is everytime I hear about the history of something awful IT sounds like some sort of rich person/psyops site that causes chaos and malcontent everywhere it goes. Not enlightenment or even things for the lulzs but genuine desire for destruction deceit and ruin.
▶ No.37427>>37537 >>37540 >>37955
>>37367
From what I understand Something Awful as a community basically amounts to what 4chan would have been if 4chan had weeded out the faggots by enforcing an entry fee. It's the difference between a club with a bouncer and one without.
▶ No.37537
>>37367
It's a breeding ground for narcissistic sociopaths.
>>37427
Get the fuck out goon.
▶ No.37540
>>37427
>Something Awful as a community basically amounts to what 4chan would have been if 4chan created a circlejerk by enforcing an entry fee. It's the difference between paying 10 bucks to shitpost and not paying money to shitpost.
FTFY
▶ No.37955
>>37427
Except SA is a SJW shithole now yet always was a hugbox especially since lowtax is a corrupt pedo who only cares about money and bans you for not liking the same stupid shit he does.
▶ No.38094
I think the fact that Japan is smaller than the entire west is a great obvious explanation why this holds true.
Case closed
▶ No.38616
>>31334
Holy crap, those fursuits look way better than most at an American con. I love the style.
▶ No.39018
the japanese furfags are still centric around creating content. They are too busy to actually act autistic.
▶ No.39170>>39176 >>39253
just talking about art.
imo japanese stuff is nice.
is it called kemono, right?
I mean all those ones are something that western isn't in the overall
THEY ARE CUTE
guys. I'm not a furry artist and I don't want to be one.
but I appreciate many good works from Japanese artist.
but every time I see western art is kinda disgusting in some way
and even more If I for some reason I decide to draw something related to ""animal people""
just....
why the neon colors?
why the derp faces?
why the realistic features/artstyle?
why the horsecocks?
why so much selfinsert?
why the fucking alliance with all those shitty fetishes like suckers, diapers, inflation or body shapes like cars, ETC?!
I didn't want to be mean. so take this animu girl I made with some fur on her.
▶ No.39176
>>39170
Animalpeople continues to remain largely a genre in today's Japan, while in the west it's acquired the additional attribute of also being a subculture with a strong emphasis on individualism.
With a genre, you just draw animalperson characters.
With a furry subculture, you draw an animalperson and say "This character represents me. "
>why so much selfinsert?
Once you've created the character meant to represent yourself, boom, you've got the thing that's going to be the focus of the majority of your artwork.
>why the neon colors?
All the other people with fox fursonas look more or less the same. How will I ever make myself stand out in the crowd? *notices the lime-green crayon in his pencil box* This gives me an idea...
>why the horsecocks?
My fursona needs to have a very large penis. He needs to be hung like a horse. Hmm. That gives me an idea...
>why the realistic features/artstyle?
Many furries artists have learned their skills from books about drawing animals and humans. The intended audience of these books is people looking to draw realistically. It's a neutral style that can be built upon by adding personal flair.
>why the derp faces?
You're bending a mostly human face to fit the shape of an animal's skull. It takes a mix of practise, skill and feedback to learn how to make it look natural.
>why the fucking alliance with all those shitty fetishes like suckers, diapers, inflation or body shapes like cars,
I really don't know.
▶ No.39253>>39267 >>39276
>>39170
While I like furry art, I'm not really part of the community so take what I say with a grain of salt.
>why the neon colors?
Most of the time it seems like people who have those characters are not artists themselves. They just throw something together that stands out, while beeing easy to describe and throw together. Imagine sending a request with references to an artist: "I want him to have a head like this lion (ATT1) and wings like this lion (ATT2) with read fur and a neon green biohazard sign on his chest." There you go, the rest is left to the artist.
It's easy way for somebody uncreative to achieve something original.
>why the derp faces?
It's mostly just one cartoony style that is relatively common, similar to how certain styles are more common in anime art. Look at some older cartoons that have animal characters. Looney Tunes for instance. It's easy to see the connection.
>why the realistic features/artstyle?
I don't understand this point. Some poeple like more realistic art others don't. Thise goes for any kind of art, furry or otherwise. Or do you mean why only certain features of some characters are drawn realistic?
>why the horsecocks?
Horsecocks are big, bestial and recognizable. The form is relatively simple and they look animalistic while not beeing as repulsive as many other animal penises.
>why so much selfinsert?
Part of the culture is having a characer that represents you. A fursona. Porn artists often have a few character designs that they like to draw. If already have a certain character design that you like and that represents you, why not use it for porn too?
>why the fucking alliance with all those shitty fetishes like suckers, diapers, inflation or body shapes like cars, ETC?!
The subculture was always pretty niche and accepted pretty much anybody.
>so take this animu girl I made with some fur on her.
That's really cute. Mind doing some art in the SFW thread? >>38599
▶ No.39257
>>36906
>Literally the words of someone who doesn't know japanese.
Japanese clearly isn't the only language the OP has no grasp of.
▶ No.39267
>>39253
>Horsecocks are big, bestial and recognizable. The form is relatively simple and they look animalistic while not beeing as repulsive as many other animal penises.
why you are making it sound pretty normal.
▶ No.39276>>39314 >>39362
>>39253
>Horsecocks are big, bestial and recognizable. The form is relatively simple and they look animalistic while not beeing as repulsive as many other animal penises.
Horse dick looks fucking disgusting and they're not even big compared to the size of the animal itself.
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▶ No.39333>>39359
>>39314
Bui is a cubfag strictly into paws. He don't care about no horsecock.
▶ No.39359
>>39333
You'd know that wouldn't you bui?
▶ No.39362
>>39276
>they're not even big compared to the size of the animal itself.
the point is that they're big compared to many other land mammals short of elephants, compared to a human's or dog's it's huge
▶ No.39879>>39887
>>31313 (OP)
They don't need to invent insane bullshit rituals and beliefs to validate their "identity" and be the commodified normalised pseudo-pokemon like every member of any capitalist-approved community
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▶ No.39899>>40038
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>>31313 (OP)
>Why nippon furfags are less autistic/insane than western ones?
Because they are
THE SUPERIOR LIFEFORMS
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▶ No.40053
>>31313 (OP)
I haven't read the whole thread yet, but I wanna throw my two cents since this is something I think a lot about, and it boils down to a lot with western individualism VS japanese collectivism.
I feel like western furries are very often narcissistic, or at least vain. There is a constant need to display one's self with insane pedantry, and obsession with being unique and one of a kind. The entire community is financially fueled by people's desire to portray themselves. Think of how many popular fursonas you know where the owner is complete a dogshit artist, or doesn't even have any art. Entire galleries of commissions and gifts with no contribution through their own artistic efforts. Sound familiar?
Meanwhile, Kemono seems to be more concerned with just fucking animals than pretending to be one. Obviously there will be many exceptions to the rule, but I feel like Japs more often strive to make independent creative works where artist don't directly insert their own being (as in themselves specifcally, not faceless males) into the fiction, where as I feels like you only get that out of western media if it's produced by a company for a larger market. That said, however, kemono art can really start to look generic. Also, there's the entire point that being an otaku can be an entirely different beast than just some geek or weirdo. Most are happy to just toil away in their obsession without disturbance, but can get pretty psychotic when their bubble is disturbed.
I'm not trying to portray Japs as better or anything, they just align with what I prefer out of a creative community.
▶ No.53174>>53193
>>31313 (OP)
They're born into/raised in a far less autistic, retarded and generally fucked up society.
(Nice 13s.)
>/thread
▶ No.53193>>53385
>>53174
I was about to argue that our society isn't autistic, retarded, and fucked up but then I remembered who our President is.
Carry on, citizen.
▶ No.53201
>>31313 (OP)
>why are japan's furfags better than us?
there are four reasons as to why there's a warped view of US furs vs JP furs.
#1. because the language barrier is a filter for the insanity. Japan has its share of nutjobs, you just don't hear about them because nobody wants to talk about them much in English.
#2. because the worst of the furry community are people who are addicted to e-fame and attention the same way so-called-normies get addicted to likes and attention on social media.
they simply crave attention, they're good at getting it, and go bonkers when it's threatened.
#3. the ad-nausem fallacy of degenerate funding. you know that people with wealth are in the minority, despite this, people with lots of money can cause what seems to be a fad of commissions.
#4. Shame. those who love it hide their power level. those who despise it, refuse to admit they're attracted to it.
people who love it are shamed because of people who say...
<IT'S DEGENERATE ERMAGAWD WHO WANTS TO FUKK ANIMALZZ!!!
people who despise it are shamed because...
<FUKK THIS FURRY, IT'S SO HAWT I LITERALLY CAN'T STAND IT, IT'S ALMOST BEASTALITY BUT IT'S HAWT TO ME, WHAT DA FUQQQQQQQ!!!!!
are you PROUD of being a furry?
It's okay to refuse to be proud.
you should be happy to be a furry!
▶ No.53229>>53230
>>31550
>app allows users to select from supported species and features(follow me eyes, digitigrade legs, etc).
>That same app allows the customer to paint a 3D model to specify a custom color scheme.
>That magical app also has buyers scan their body with phone camera instead of using a duct-tape suit/cast.
>Teams of lower-skilled artists are taught to do repetitive tasks involved in making these suits.
>QA oversees the production process and QC gives the go/nogo for each stage of the base suit production.
>Suits with special details are passed on to team of highly-skilled artists, allowing communication between customer and worker.
The result is cheaper materials by bulk purchase, faster suit production for people at the front of the line due to streamlining construction, and a higher throughput by putting base details through a larger team for people at the back of the line.
You can have your Lamborghinis and eat them, too.
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>>53229
Okay? Except that doesn't happen because fursuits are specialty items and there isn't enough demand to mass-produce them like this. Same reason there isn't enough demand to mass-produce Lamborghinis.
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>>53230
The current demand is definitely too low to sustain such a model, much lest invest in the R&D and staffing to get it up and running.
If the market for suits were much larger, however, what I outlined would be a possibility.
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>>53232
Well, the issue is that it's a Catch-22. The market will never get any larger because most people cannot afford the huge price tag, so the price will never go down to expand the market. Really, it's just a meaningless thought experiment to consider the possibilities.
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>>53246
I wasn't being clear in my first post, but that was definitely supposed to be a thought experiment to explain we currently have the technology to mass produce fursuits.
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>>53303
I see. But we also currently have the technology to run the entire planet on solar power and begin colonizing Mars tomorrow, so it's a bit silly.
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>>53351
>we also currently have the technology to run the entire planet on solar power
You're kidding, right? Never mind the costs of photovoltaic cells or other forms of solar power generation, the INFRASTRUCTURE is simply not there and there are regions that cannot hope to get enough sunlight year round to make solar a viable "entire planet" solution. Solar power is (mostly) good, but it's not going to power the planet.
>and begin colonizing Mars tomorrow
Nope. We're still trying to figure out how to make extended stays in low/zero-G livable, for one. There are a lot of factors at play here and a Mars outpost is probably a little ways down the road yet.
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>>53417
You simply cannot tell humans "that's impossible". All it would take is to pave over about 100x100 miles of Arizona with solar panels and the entire USA could be energy-independent. The only thing that remains is distribution. All I was saying was that the technology EXISTS, not that it's economically feasible or that any administration would actually do it. If there was some kind of "race to Mars" like there was to the Moon, we'd be there within a decade.
The difference between then and now is that humanity has turned weak and coddled, and are unwilling to take any chances. The reason the Russians beat the USA at 90% of the space race was because they were willing to suffocate a few cosmonauts if that's what it took. Progress requires sacrifice, and pussyfooting around for a generation, afraid to so much as give any astronaut a bruise, is not going to get anywhere.
The technology EXISTS; all that is required is the stones to use it.
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>>53518
Power companies hold us back. Arizona limits how much solar energy you can make yourself.
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>>53520
No fucking shit it is. That's because it's a red state and what little of the GOP isn't owned by the NRA and Israel is owned by Big Oil. You think the power company is going to NOT fuck the customer when they could be making more profit??
Here in California, the (only) power company once had a power line blow over and start a huge wildfire that caused millions in damages, burned hundreds of homes, and killed several people. It was determined that their network was the cause of the fire, and so they were ordered to pay restitution. However, since they are literally the only electricity provider in the area, they just quietly increased their rates and NOBODY COULD DO A THING ABOUT IT. Despite fucking up so badly it destroyed lives and killed people, they suffered ZERO loss of profit. Now, whenever the wind picks up a little, they just shut down the power to affected areas as a "safety measure", y'know... instead of spending the money to put the motherfucking lines underground or shoring up the poles or something. God fucking forbid!
If humanity goes extinct, it'll be because of crony capitalism.
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>>53565
>if humanity goes extinct, it'll be because of crony capitalism
Warmer, anon! You're getting warmer!
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>>53565
>Here in California, the (only) power company once had a power line blow over and start a huge wildfire that caused millions in damages, burned hundreds of homes, and killed several people. It was determined that their network was the cause of the fire, and so they were ordered to pay restitution
PG&E are fucking scam artists but are you talking about the most recent big fire?
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>>53603
No, there was one several years back, in Southern California (so actually SDG&E). Wouldn't surprise me if it's happened multiple times, though.
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>>53615
I don't know what caused the most recent fire but it ended too soon. They should have let it burn SF and Sacramento to a crisp
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>>53616
It would have burned out as soon as it finished torching the mountain and valley areas. Wouldn't have come close to either city because they're surrounded by water. Sorry to crush your edgy right-wing fantasies of roasting liberals because they hurt your feelings.
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>>53675
Not him and I also agree he's being edgy but I have no clue what in the fuck you guys are doing with HIV+ legislation and i'm avoiding that state like a quarantined S.T.A.L.K.E.R. radioactive area.
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>>53675
>edgy right-wing fantasies
not even close. I just can't stand the rent being so goddamn high and the bay area's bullshit vanity projects
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>>53702
>I just can't stand the rent being so goddamn high
Then move to a red state. Rent and taxes and everything else is so low over there, that you can join half of the state's population, and support both yourself and a heroin habit on nothing more than "disability".
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>>53703
yeah I plan on moving once I have enough money. The entire bay area is flooded with homeless camps everywhere
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>>53719
Every major city in the USA is overflowing with homeless people. It's funny; did you know that there are European countries that literally have a 0% homeless rate? Fucking socialism, how does it work?
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>>31360
Same reason other people make SFW of anime girls and lolis. It's cute and/or cool, as well as a fetish.
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>>31374
I managed to find a handful of Japanese Fursuiter after dark accounts. They're very, very, very inclusive, especially Suiters who do lewd things. They rarely allow westerners into their locked accounts, unless you have a very tantalizing icon/header and bio (if they can read English). Bonus points if the header/icon images are of your hot fursuit/murrsuit.
Their follower counts usually range from 10 followers to 100 followers, most commonly in the 30-50 range.
Even on these locked down ADs, it's very rare for a kemono Suiter to post a photo of their dick hanging out of their SPH, rather, they slap a huge emoticon on the area where the assumed peen is.
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And to add on, I see a trend with lewd Suiters. Many of them like to wear fetish sentai bodysuits with their heads. Along with many Suiters who like being "trapped" or restrained in some way. It's interesting.
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>>53798
>it's very rare for a kemono Suiter to post a photo of their dick hanging out of their SPH
That's one part a holdover from censorship laws, and one part paranoia that someone will be able to identify them from their dick.