/fur/ - Furry★

What if you're a human, though? Would fugging an animal make a furry? Would fugging a furry make a mon?

>>26683

Would be something like monster girls aka light furry

I think is better if they can't reproduce with different species like animals in real life. Dogs can't impregnate cats, horses can't impregnate monkeys etc.

I guess one way to do it would be species of one parent and fur pattern/colors of the other

It doesn't make sense for it to happen at all. But in general I think you can either do one species or the other, or a non-viable hybrid.

In general I just like something standard like the species is the same as the mother, since it bakes in her oven.

>>26752

I like it

>>26681 (OP)

I usually go with very rare to happen, to begin with, followed by typically unnoticeable or otherwise non extreme differences in parents what, most the time, are similar anyway.

Think a liger, or similar.

Very rare cases where you've got, say, a bunny and a fox? One or the other, basically. Flip a coin. At most, take one major trait from one, and apply to the other, ala your image's birds with bat ears that terrifies my soul.

>>26683

MLP answered that with satyrs.

Seems the lazyman's way of solving it, though. Literally just half of each creature.

>>27318

Those two's daughter is disturbingly hot. As in, dangerously so. As in, if she's still a minor, better lock me up just to be safe.

>>27345

just looks like a repeat of Maid Marian's design to me. putting her in a girl scout uniform doesnt change much.

>>27318

>The offspring would be the species of one parent

But that's so boring. A fox/rabbit hybrid isn't even that difficult to design, in the grand scheme of things.

>>27373

I just really want to avoid something like the picture in OP. There are other more subtle physical characteristics that can be added from the other parent. Maybe add some secret fangs or something.

What I meant is something like a wolf and a sheep have an offspring and that offspring turns out to be a sheep. However if that offspring mates with a wolf, the grandchild will definitely be a wolf because of the latent wolf genes. However in most cases the dominant sheep genes would take priority make the offspring in most cases functionally a sheep.

>>27408

Well, for the OP it's extremely difficult to make good character designs in a show that has an art style that deliberately shitty.

>>27424

All of Margaret's relatives minus her dad were a type of bird. Disgust hybrids only arrived in the epilogue.

>>27888

The art style is still shitty; it's always been shitty. My point was that they could have made the hybrids look okay if they weren't total shit to begin with. Even the main characters are ugly as sin.

>>27926

Animal husbandry is an excellent way to see how evolution works, on a very short timescale. You can even see how cows would evolve for an ecological niche where their survival is dependent upon providing lots of tasty meat for predators.

Although, if you're speaking of a fictional world where anthros can freely form hybrids of each other, there isn't any "reason" to make them. A tiger and a bear aren't going to make hybrid offspring because a tiger/bear has any intrinsic value, but because they love each other and want a biological child.

>>26681 (OP)

Or you could do like Treasure Planet where the female and the male only appear to be different species.

>>26681 (OP)

in my ttrpg setting anthros are like elves and gnomes, they're magical beings that needed a physical form when they entered the world. when they're born they look like clay humanoids, with no facial features and a gem stuck in their heads, as they get older the gem absorbs the essence of the animal that matches their soul, then when they hit puberty their body absorbs the gem and they begin to change into their soul animal. when the anthros mix with humans they become the race of the mother but with some minor features from the father.

>>27981

The fuck are you getting on about?

>>27993

Apparently he thinks you implied nonsapient animals are capable of love?

Or maybe he's one of those people who always reminds others that love is just chemical reactions because fuck having fun with the concept?

I don't know either tbh.

>>28027

>Look at me trying to justify my normalfag loli fetish

Get the fuck back to /a/ where you belong.

>>28111

The fuck are you on about, where did he mention loli?

>>28232

>spoilers are still borked?

you can force the spoiler. >>25822

>>28321

A tanuki is a tanuki. The only reason for the association with raccoons is because Western taxonomists have no possible translation for the term, so invented their own: raccoon dog. Tanuki form their own genus of canid, and are thus unrelated to either dogs or foxes, and are very far removed from raccoons.

>>26752

Aren't you the guy who had that story in the old /furry/ writethread about Earth being flung away from the sun?

>>28389

Yes. It's a project I poke at once every few months, but for some reason can't summon the desire to actually finish it. I wanted to format it into a particular series of chapters, but the amount of worldbuilding I'm shoving into there makes all but the first chapter way too long and unwieldy; they have too many scene transitions and too much information for not a lot of actions. I really should just reassemble it into a different set of chapters, but that would almost require completely rewriting them because each chapter has its own self-contained flow from beginning to end; you can't just chop it to pieces and expect it to sound cogent.

Eh, whatever. I can probably finish the next chapter tonight or tomorrow. The lit thread could use a good bumping.

>>28027

>just nudge the offspring closer to human and youre good

Ah another >>>/monster/ fag in denial of being a furry.

>>28027

I used to write manuscripts for a novel like that. Even though the parts that conform with that were only a minor component of many.

>> there's only one or two animals of each species. you've got a dog character, a cat character, etc. shamelessly uses animal behavior stereotypes. nobody is fucking, worldbuilding, or making racial allegories, it's just fun

> No sex involved, animals of different species not even interested in each other, the only faggot the reader sees is a serial killer

> figures of speech based on animals (ex: We can't keep ignoring the elephant in the room) still exist, but their respective animals get offended

> (human) protagonist gets taught early on that an animal's species and subspecies defines their behaviour much more than nurture or personality, personalities within the same species have only pretty subtle differences

> The process of predicting what an opponent is going to do/how they will go about to fight consists practically just of deducing based on their species (shrimps try to damage body and tear off limbs, cats try to sneak towards enemy from behind and around corners, most spiders try to snipe or one-shot people with poison from a high distance and more differences based on exact species)

> The guy that teaches her all that is a cat

> Even his own approach can be predicted using the same method

Also

> 'Earth's' cultures are merely inspired by the cultures of all parts of known space that have humans among them

> Protagonist thinks all cats (all of them) are a bit too harsh on hyenas.

> Guy that teaches her her new life makes her live with hyenas for a month

> They're basically niggers, drugs, robberies, accents and everything.

> Even the wealthy and well-dressed one that speaks perfectly fine turns out to be involved in drug trade eventually.

>>29798

This sounds hopelessly boring.

>>28355

>A tanuki is a tanuki

Tanukis are racoons with fox skeletons.

>>28179

>>>/leftypol/

>>26681 (OP)

In my worldbuilding thing that will probably never see the light of day, "furries" are mostly species that had their evolution predestined by an extradimensional being so that they followed a certain track of semi-artificially introduced traits (kind of like domestication). These species have since evolved to be similar enough (same number of chromosome pairs, compatible reproductive processes/parts, etc) that they can interbreed.

It's also a space opera, so if people have the money to fix genes (because muh future) they aren't born with birth defects but if there are birth defects then they are mostly physical, such as dog/humans having extra digits because the DNA couldn't decide on four toes or five so it flipped shit and gave them extras.

Also, I have no examples because I can't into art, but the "furries" are in quotations because they aren't typical anthros. They are ayyliens that artificially evolved from the same archaic organism in different star systems and shit. They look different but they are all different parts of the same extradimensional creation plan.

>inb4 "God allegory," that's the point

>>27965

That reminds me of Gumball's family; you could just make it that the sons take the mom's species and the daughters take the father's species. Simple and clean. Much easier than taking biology courses to learn about actual scientific reproduction in order to satisfy your autistic need to make your sci-fi as hard as possible.

>>29896

>>>/pol/

sadly, every time there is hybrydization introduced into some world lore it's always only the first generation thats seen being created: there are no hybrids running around and yet they should be the biggest population majority around.

>>35245

That depends on how often species interbreed. It could be extremely rare if there is a cultural taboo or a biological aversion to reproducing outside one's own species. Also, hybrids could, themselves, be sterile.

For me it always was that the offspring will look like one of the parents.

I prefer it that way.

In my head canon human and anthros offspring always create anthro offspring. This way with time humans became rare and Many anthros would consider them exotic and attractive.

Also because of declining population some humans started to live in closed communities for generations creating this sort of Aryan propaganda kind of humans with very pale skin and light features. Basically inbreeding.

Such people would shame other humans who would choose to create a family with anthros instead of humans like themselve and blame them for their species dissapearing.

The easiest is the eldermon method.

Just have the children be the same species as the mother with only some minor traits from the dad.

Human on fur is the purest form of love.

>>46862

Not a fan of it, but within One Piece, One Piece rules are best rules.

>>35244

These are a good charts to show how hybrids work without causing that much of a confusion, is like how some races mix over time and sometimes it all goes back to square 1 with just a few minor skin changes.

>>46862

This happens to the fishmen not the the minks, they are two different races and are not related.

Also the lion guy never stated who was his parents or friends

>>35244

Trippy as fuck tbh. After many generations, they would hardly resemble their progenitors.

>>46862

Sounds criminally lazy and a cop-out, but that's to be expected given the medium.

>>46884

>this happens to the fishmen not the the minks, they are two different races and are not related

Oda said it works the same for them as it does for the fishmen in an SBS

>>47882

I understand. I know that there are a lot of "science"fags that going to say the sentient animal people shouldn't be able to breed with each other. However, I want an explanation for why most characters aren't mutants besides lol racism that is consistent and not "whatever I feel like at the moment". I was thinking of another variation with traits from the other parent awkwardly appearing at the child's teens.

>>47882

>the offspring would take very strongly after one of the parents, being the same "species" ... 'hybrids' DO exist ... and when they do it's usually not more than one or two traits inherited from the other parent

This just seems like an excuse for the artist to be lazy and unimaginative with the design. "Oh, she's a horse that is a hybrid with a raccoon, so I'll stick a ringed tail on a horse and literally nothing else."

>>48111

>traits from the other parent awkwardly appearing at the child's teens

This is interesting. It allows for some compelling narratives.

>>26694

> Dogs can't impregnate cats, horses can't impregnate monkeys etc.

They can't?

>>48132

Yeah, it's called chromosomes, and if you didn't know that you might have an extra one.

>>48215

Chromosomes have nothing to do with it.

There are plenty of example of species with mismatched chromosomes being able to breed (horse/donkey)

>>48126

>This just seems like an excuse for the artist to be lazy and unimaginative with the design.

Dude, we're discussing talking fucking cartoon animals. We've already thrown any kind of real logic out the window, what I'm talking about "in-universe" logic.

Secondly, if hybrid creatures were common then within two or three generations nobody would have any idea who the fuck was what because all their features would be weird mishmashes.

>>48297

There is no point to debating about anything if you're going to excuse every possible flaw with "it's okay because it's consistent in-universe". It's like excusing a giant narrative plot hole with "a wizard did it"; even if wizards exist in that universe, it does not change the bad writing. Same thing here: just because the artist makes up a reason for why their design is lazy shit, doesn't mean it's not still lazy shit. If I say I've invented a universe where all hybrid sex results in a baby that is a sentient cactus, you'd call that out for being nonsense; but by your logic it's perfectly reasonable so long as it stays "in-universe".

Anyway, all hybrids in the real world are sterile. It would be reasonable to assume hybrids stop at one generation with anthros as well. That way there is no absurd race-mixing going on that turns everything into generic furries instead of recognizable as distinct species.

Although, one could argue that the abysmal state of artistry in the fandom has already done that, by making every single species resemble some generic canine.

>>48297

>Secondly, if hybrid creatures were common then within two or three generations nobody would have any idea who the fuck was what because all their features would be weird mishmashes.

That's implying hybrid creatures are common. When I think about it >>35244 actually doesn't have to be that bad. Even in a world like ours. Like sure America would probably have a ton of hybridization going on, but even in America there's distinct races, and especially in some other countries, like Japan, in an anthro parallel world, there'd be one dominant anthro "species." You'd have less different kinds of anthros overall, or you'd probably have to subdivide the countries a bit to explain why the anthro kinds are still mostly distinct. And then you'd have shit like foxes with a "little bit of cat" in them and the like :3

My own idea on it would be something like, one parent's set of genes determines the kind of anthro, and the other determines sort of species-independent, minor characteristics, like proportions, relative ear, eye, nose size, light or dark color, etc. So it's still the same kind of anthro as one parent, but it doesn't look exactly like that one parent. But I think as far as genetics goes, that's a lot less realistic/plausible than what the post I linked to had in mind; but I don't really know about genetics so eh.

>>48306

>Anyway, all hybrids in the real world are sterile. It would be reasonable to assume hybrids stop at one generation with anthros as well.

Not everyone wants to have that dynamic in the story.

>>48306

>Although, one could argue that the abysmal state of artistry in the fandom has already done that, by making every single species resemble some generic canine.

>>48327

>You'd have less different kinds of anthros overall, or you'd probably have to subdivide the countries a bit to explain why the anthro kinds are still mostly distinct.

These remind me about that guy that keeps saying that only predators can get intelligence thus limiting the pool of animals even further.

>>48132

Only closely related species can breed, Anon.

>>52842

This is an issue, because for the most part it's impossible to distinguish one canid from another besides their coloring. Put an arctic fox's pelt on a wolf, and it's just a beefy arctic fox. Put a coyote's pelt on a fox, and it's just a small coyote. I've seen enough raccoons with pointy ears to know you can probably include them in this, as well.

>>52882

How about establishing the defining of each species and play around with what gets fudged around to make them anthropomorphic.

Rabbit with wolf DNA looks like a rabbit (ears, tail, and nose) but is bigger and stronger than the average rabbit.

>Speices

>non-defining features

>natural talent

>>54316

Fine for personality traits in a written or RP setting, but it still doesn't work with the vast majority of furry content because it wouldn't be instantly recognizable in a single picture.

>>54363

Retcons have nothing to do with writing yourself into a corner and having to rely on a deus ex machina to solve things, or just handwaving shit without a decent explanation.

It might be narratively consistent, but it's still bad writing. Kinda like how smug is bad posting.

>>26683

50% chance of it being furry

50% chace of it being human

I know it’s lazy and makes no genetic sense but whatever. Also you can apply it to different furry spices.

>>54379

A lot of people view humans in those settings as a null type so many go with furry-human cross breeding to always result in a furry. It is usually an excuse to inflate the numbers of furries.

>>54375

>Retcons have nothing to do with writing yourself into a corner and having to rely on a deus ex machina to solve things, or just handwaving shit without a decent explanation.

Retcon just means to change something that is already previously established in the canon.

>It might be narratively consistent, but it's still bad writing.

Some details are not terribly important to the story. Most people that can drive a car don't actually know everything about how a car's insides work. Unless the story involves tracing a characters lineage using the bullshit genetics, it isn't much to get hang up about. It isn't like a movie about hacking and having two people type on the same keyboard.

>>55201

what anime is this?

>>55214

He said it right in his post; Solatorobo.

>>26681 (OP)

I call it Disney rules but I don't think people have a name for it. The most common variation of this is the species of the offspring match the parent of the same sex.

The one I use in my personal cannon has all the furry species being genetically engineered to splice animalistic traits into the human genome, with the process developed by a combined effort of scientists without ethics, and rich, crazy furs who want their kids to be furry. Not real genetics, but it explains why it's usually close to Mendelian most of the time well enough for my purposes.

What this leads to is the idea that the entire expression of "furriness" is a small set of genes that toggle the rest of the others for that "species", and are literally designed to only express one species at a time, and allow free interbreeding of all types of furs and humans. This leads to things like recessive fox genes making one fox in a family of cats, but avoids the horrible hybrids. Most of the time, anyway. Mutants can exist, but they aren't likely to be leading normal lives, or surviving to adulthood for that matter.

>>26681 (OP)

There's such a thing like inbreeding depression, and then there's outbreeding depression.

Nature literally made miscegenation undesireable.

>>61905

I'm having the kind of depression from knowing that I'll never get fuck a sweet furbride.

What do you guys have against fun? /fukemo/ was really into male human x female anthro.

>>61905

>Hey guys, I know this is completely unrelated to the topic, but did you know niggers are bad? Because they are. You shouldn't associate with them. /pol/ told me and they're never wrong.

There is also such a thing as hybrid vigor, but I'm sure they didn't mention that.

>>62041

Hybrid vigor is mostly for mules, and even then they're infertile. Humans tend to inherit genetic diseases and mixed race people can only get some transplants from other people with the same combo. Very often with hybrids you get the shitty genes from both parents.

>>62113

It's pretty well know for dogs. Your typical backyard mutt will be all but indestructible, but purebreds tend to have a laundry list of disorders and weaknesses. Genetic diseases in humans are similarly usually the rest of inbreeding; the concept that they occur in mixed-race people is not substantiated in reality.

>>63127

That's pretty cute, but

>watermarks

Guy's more cancerous than I expected.

>>63153

>good stuff

No

I love human on fur because I get to imagine the feeling of skin against a warm furry body. It's nice.

>>27353

I <3 that drawing on the right. Hu deed?

>>71204