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 No.130150

Can you actually lose fat without doing keto?

 No.130169

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>>130150

You can't. It's impossible. You can eat twenty calories a day, but if more than one of those are a carb then you're fucked, you're

BIG

FAT LADY

BIG BIG

FAT LADY

YOU GOT BLUBBER THIGHS

TOO MUCH

GRAVY


 No.130170

Yes, it's called a low fat diet with a high ratio of saturated to unsaturated fat (where you take care to maintain adequate intake of fat soluble vitamins) and plentiful carbs. Keto is just a meme that makes you lose weight in a very unhealthy way, and it's not unusual to become hypothyroid or diabetic from any sort of high fat diet. Being selective about fat intake is the old and true way towards health and low body fat percentage.


 No.130172

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calories in>>

calories out<<

You could lose weight off eating anything as long as what you eat totals less than maintenance calories. But that does not always mean you won't be hungry a lot or lose a ton of muscle in the process.

Yes you can, but keto or at least some kind of low-carb diet is the easiest way imo without the above things happening.

>>130170

>keto will make you diabetic

lolwut? Diabetus is caused by sugars, not fats you dumbass. Keto will keep your blood sugar levels more stable than literally anything.


 No.130173

>>130172

>Keto will keep your blood sugar levels more stable

This is so wrong that it almost seems intentionally malicious. What if I told you that by not working or being unemployed your bank account would be more stable while you are forced to continue withdrawing everyday even into the negatives? Only by regularly consuming carbohydrates can blood sugar stay "stable", otherwise glycogen stores will run out and the body quickly resorts to gluconeogenesis by catabolism of tissues, especially muscle. It's not surprising either; while diabetics get fatter and fatter, diabetes is actually a wasting disease where significant amounts of both muscle and bone are lost. Gluconeogenesis is caused/stimulated by cortisol and adrenaline, and if anything is going to cause wild fluctuations of blood sugar, it is heavy reliance on stress hormones such as these.

Effect of epinephrine on glucose metabolism in humans: contribution of the liver.

>Epinephrine causes a prompt increase in blood glucose concentration in the postabsorptive state. This effect is mediated by a transient increase in hepatic glucose production and an inhibition of glucose disposal by insulin-dependent tissues. Epinephrine augments hepatic glucose production by stimulating glycogenolysis and gluconeogenesis. Although its effect on glycogenolysis rapidly wanes, hyperglycemia continues because the effects of epinephrine on gluconeogenesis and glucose disposal persist. Epinephrine-induced hyperglycemia is markedly accentuated by concomitant elevations of glucagon and cortisol or in patients with diabetes. In both cases, the effect of epinephrine on hepatic glucose production is converted from a transient to a sustained response, thereby accounting for the exaggerated hyperglycemia. During glucose feeding, mild elevations of epinephrine that have little effect on fasting glucose levels cause marked glucose intolerance. This exquisite sensitivity to the diabetogenic effects of epinephrine is accounted for by its capacity to interfere with each of the components of the glucoregulatory response, i.e., stimulation of splanchnic and peripheral glucose uptake and suppression of hepatic glucose production. Our findings suggest that epinephrine is an important contributor to stress-induced hyperglycemia and the susceptibility of diabetics to the adverse metabolic effects of stress.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6380304


 No.130182

I wanted to go back to a more regular diet or something paleo-ish but all recent articles on the web on nutrition say that keto is the end all be all of diets.

I’ve been doing keto for a year, lost some weight, gained some back. I’m tired of eating meat and cheese while counting carbs in my veggies and have been craving some less heavy feeling food tbh.

Keto is an ok system but it's not magic. If you have a history of diabetes in your family and are not a naturally lean person, you can implement it from time to time but fuck me does it ever get old quickly.


 No.130185

>>130182

>If you have a history of diabetes in your family and are not a naturally lean person, you can implement it from time to time

Just as a person with a history of depression in his family - who is not a naturally happy person - can implement suicide from jumping off a bridge from time to time, yes.




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