/doomer/ - Doomers Club★

>>14233 (OP)

I don't want to pass on whatever neuroticism or broken ways of thinking I've inherited. I'd rather take it with me to the grave

If my daughter looked like i want her to and had a personality and humor similar to mine, enough for us to enjoy the same shit, yes i would.

I find myself occasionally fantasizing about raising a kid, primarily to see if I could avoid him growing up a fuckup the way I did, but the reality is that I wouldn't be able to. Or maybe I would, which will just result in me getting to see him do all the things I missed out on growing up, just more reminders except this time they're right in front of my face.

>>14233 (OP)

I have a daughter and she rescues me from my doomerism while I'm with her. I took her out to my backyard to help me water plants today, her smile warms my cold heart.

I never fantasised about having a family, just a gf. I value my free time and freedom too much. I think a lot of people agree with me, considering how much birth rates are dropping in developed countries. Having said that, it's important for a country to be able to sustain its own population. Being reliant on immigration to maintain stable population is a dumb idea imo.

>>14249

>I value my free time and freedom too much.

That’s why you get a wife to care for the kids. They actually enjoy it unless they’re a roastie poisoned with feminist propaganda

<Women are directly adapted to act as the nurses and educators of our early childhood, for the simple reason that they themselves are childish, foolish, and short-sighted---in a word, are big children all their lives, something intermediate between the child and the man, who is a man in the strict sense of the word

t. Schopenhauer

>>14248

This, I have a boy and a girl. I thought the boy was what I wanted, but it's only interesting sometimes to teach him how to fish and whatnot, but the daughter man… that's where it's at. The pure unadulterated love a daughter can give you is unmatched by any relationship in your entire life, period. I also started producing oyster mushrooms… and doing that with her was bliss

>>14233 (OP)

I always wanted a son so I could give him the upbringing my own parents couldn't give me. Having a daughter also sounds great.

>>14236

>tfw you can never take 2D girl you love in your arms and feel her warmth

You always mentioned having a waifu, who is it?

>>14289

>Women are directly adapted to act as the nurses and educators of our early childhood, for the simple reason that they themselves are childish, foolish, and short-sighted---in a word, are big children all their lives, something intermediate between the child and the man, who is a man in the strict sense of the word

Schopencuck was right, but for all the wrong reasons.

>>14233 (OP)

>Did you ever want to become a father?

Sure thing, I always wanted at least 2 kids because having a sibling is amazing thing you will value later in your life, more is better. However, I still had (and have) this worry that what if I would have daughter, I might be not strong enough to keep her out of cock carousel of shitskins. I don't know what I would do if my daughter would be tinder whore or something. Also imagine having a son and one day he would tell you he is trans or some shit because he heard it's new cool thing, I would kill myself. Still I have hope that I will reach some level, where I can be autonomous man, capable of providing solid background to potential wife and kids. The trouble is that all I have are values and determination and I'm starting to seriously lack time. If I won't have wife and kids, it doesn't bother me personally that much, I still have freedom and the less anchors you have, the better fighter you are (not afraid to lose what you have). As soon as your relationship gets serious, you will become less courageous and more careful. On the other hand, your kids might be the reason why to take insane risks just to provide them better future. There is no future in world though, or at least no positive future. All you can give to kids is solid core but they will grow up and you can't shield them forever. I wouldn't want to be responsible for raising human failures suffering from day to day like I do, still it's worth trying I guess, I would do my best.

>>14248

>>14295

Based doomed boomers. Wish you all best unironically, just be healthy and strong for them and you will make it, I believe it.

Yeah but then I realized women are a joke and to be ridiculed.

>>14299

On the issue of your children becoming degenerate whores or trannies, I think this is mainly in how you choose to raise them. A solid upbringing in a good environment will not produce these kinds of results. If the home is happy, the children and parents mutually caring for each other and a strong sense of traditional values (preferably instilled through religion) is advocated for, the chance of problems like you fear is much less. I’m not even religious but I see how religion is anti-degeneracy in ways that any other form of thought can’t even hope to reach today. I plan to instill pro-white and anti-degenerate thought in my children’s heads if I ever get lucky enough to have them, but I realize that I must also tread lightly. If I force this type of thought down their throats and try to brainwash them, they will inevitably rebel and turn into what I fear. The best route will be to foster independent minds and be honest with them while not being overbearing, hoping they will follow the same path I did.

>>14370

>I’m not even religious but I see how religion is anti-degeneracy in ways that any other form of thought can’t even hope to reach today.

It sort of reminds me of Duck Dynasty, however the reality is religion can be the biggest source of cucking as well. A lot christians are progressive because of christianity (check what is pope doing). You have a good point though.

>>14404

That was a bad example. This pope is the most unpopular and with the least "approval rate" among Catholics, he has low influence on how things are doing here. At least here in Brazil. He's only popular with non-religious people who want to subvert society, and I haven't seem them getting converted to Catholicism because of him. On contrary, I have seem a lot of conservative people converting back to Catholicism to fight the degeneracy around the Church itself ("back" because it used to be the default religion everyone was born in, before the Protestants, specially neo-pentecostals, became cancer).

A better example would be Liberation Theology that was spread here by cultural marxists by the second half of the last century. We are fighting it now, despite what the current pope thinks about it (the last two ones despised it, specially Benedict XVI, who should have remained in the throne and excommunicated the progressive priests). Anyway, I'm talking about a (barely non-official) heresy. And heresies shouldn't be taken as an example of the default behavior of any religion.

Anyway, religion, Christianity specifically, is what's forged the good things of our civilization and our morality -- what we see as good or as bad. Not that our genetics didn't take part of it and not that a good culture couldn't come out of Europe without Christianity. But it plays a major and important role as well. I get you don't like it, but the good things shouldn't be neglected, and the good things should be protected so it doesn't get subverted (like what Liberation Theology does).

It was through Liberation Theology we lost the Northeast, our most poor, stupid, but still the most conservative and Catholic area to social-democrats, who spread degeneracy. We are slowly recovering that area now, but it will take time. They haven't ceased having a conservative "model culture" (differently from the richer areas), but they seem to be getting more stupid because of gibs. They give the progressives votes, the progressive work on subverting the richer areas who don't vote for them because they are the vulnerable, less religious, ones. That's the mess a subversive neo-marxist group infiltrated in the Catholic Church in South America has caused.

And things get spoopy when we think what really happened for Benedict XVI, a really conservative and based pope, to give up the throne. Under what kind of pression was he? Would it be related with the Mohammedan invasion of Europe?

The lack of an iron fist pope is the reason the things are the way they are.

>>14299

>>14370

>I think this is mainly in how you choose to raise them

>A solid upbringing in a good environment will not produce these kinds of results.

Women rot easily, they are like apples. They are not autistic and stubborn as men are to changes and to their environment. Women are very dependent on their social circles on an unconscious level.

Allow a woman to live along other rotten women, and it will get rotten as well.

So it's not only how you raise your daughter which matters, but how you keep her away from the other rotten fruits in this rotten world; and how you convince her to do so by herself. This is going to be the hardest job.

I suggest being always near her and making part of her life in everything, even when she grows up. Become her environment, and she won't break your heart by becoming rotten like the others.

>>14411

Alright, this is pretty valid point. I might add that also Orthodox Christians are not giving any fucks either and are traditional as before (at least in countries like Serbia or Russia).

>Anyway, religion, Christianity specifically, is what's forged the good things of our civilization and our morality

This is where I would disagree with you because I'm sure we had morals even in pre-christian Europe. Catholicism was built on our values to fit us and not - we were built on catholic morals. However, yes, I don't deny that conservative catholic might be source of sanity and healthy values.

>The lack of an iron fist pope is the reason the things are the way they are.

I wouldn't want to join crusades either. A lot of bad was done for the cross. I'm not talking about Jerusalem, I'm talking about Czechs (hussites), I'm talking about baltic area, I'm talking about scandinavia. Popes were bringing crusades and death to our lands as well. I hope we will not repeat that.

>>14412

Words of true wisdom. It doesn't apply just to daughter but to your wife as well, naturally. Women can be philosophically shaped pretty easily, that's why you being a strong man with set of values is important. I know feminists don't like it but women like to follow men if they are leaders. With daughters it's always risk but I totally forgot that actually you are right - girls are often very dependent on their fathers.

I want a little girl

I want a woman I love so much I feel obliged to make more of her