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“The mind commands the body and it obeys. The mind orders itself and meets resistance.”

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 No.52872

Did the cyber punk culture cannibalize them selves ?

Why do cyber punks censor people so much ?

Examples:

Political cyber punk members telling people what to do and what not to do.

Corporation cyber punk members telling people what to do and what not to do.

 No.52873

>>52872

Cannibalize? No. Cyberpunk has been effectively dead for a very long time. There was nothing to cannibalize. What you're seeing is one of the great ironies of society and politics - the same people who previously embraced cyberpunk ideals, railing against the man and all that, suddenly became The Man. It's like how communism has no appeal to the working class (and hasn't for decades), or how a /pol/-lite mindset is as rebellious against society as being a punk used to be, or how the anarchism subleddit is one of the most ban-happy subs on that shithole of a site.

I wouldn't call anyone a cyberpunk anymore. It's more about lifestyle than anything else, I guess. The cyberpunks threw politics into the mess and it spit the cyberpunks right back out, and now they're coding facial recognition software for China's police state in wide-open offices in the Bay area for $200k/year while lecturing you on how priviliged you are because of the color of your skin. The question is, were they really ever cyberpunk in the first place? I'd say no. Maybe nobody was. After all, the world still hasn't reached that stage that we recognize as cyberpunk when we see it in fiction, no matter what the aesthetic might be or how many times PayPal gets hacked.

Regardless, as for the political and censorship aspect, almost everyone is willing to use it once they actually hold power. If they don't, they'll rail against it and take it up as an ideology. Nobody's immune - shit, even the ACLU is looking at softening their position on free speech, and they don't stand up for 2A. So you had all these radical kids, and then they got jobs and then they ended up being influential because computing took off in a big way, bigger than anything before, and suddenly they've got power without consequence and entire institutions backing them ideologically. I'd be astonished if anyone DIDN'T abuse it, regardless of if they used to have mohawks or a high-and-tight.

So preach against censorship, wear whatever you want, buy some guns, and don't forget to tinker with your serverboxen on the weekends, regardless of whether you have a job or not - since I know the next logical question from the OP is "how do we retake/revive/become cyberpunk".


 No.52875

>>52873

I see your point.

Let’s say from the early 90s I don’t know if you were in to code, programming or anything connected to technology.

There has been a lot of changes

Economy for instance the price to live in a major city is expensive to the pay.

Government religion has made laws and more laws.

Everyone is beat down and they are young a skilled but won’t dare get out of line.

I have seen many people come and go.

I don’t think the world recovered from the crash in 2000 it just seem like people are saying we are doing good and everyone gets excited and nothing improves

I think your right

I also think future is here now and everyone is being oppressed

And getting worse

No privacy

Extreme religion beliefs

Drug problem now is medication

We owe it to the world governments we got out of the collapse when I don’t really see how we got out and the governments didn’t do anything for the people.

Everything has a computer in it making life easier but most things are out of price for 85% of the people.

Almost like ultraviolet the move but instead of a virus it’s people’s identity

If you express yourself your a target.

Maybe it’s me

Yes I have to agree with you


 No.52877

>>52873

>or how the anarchism subleddit is one of the most ban-happy subs on that shithole of a site

It's not even close to as bad as /r/socialism, where actual socialists are discouraged, and feminist capitalists are encouraged to post. COMPLETEANARCHY is mostly just shitposting, but it's pretty half-decent.

Minor nitpick, but anarchism is about anti-hierarchy, not about no-rules, so it's not necessarily contradictory ideologically. It's just shitty behavior and bad dialectics to ban people you disagree with as long as they're willing to engage with you in the exchange of logical arguments.


 No.52878

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If I might suggest, that the scene was scattered into the net when the internet became more "normie"-fied.

A review of history shows us, that thousands of websites made up the bulk of internet traffic and now it's been whittled away to social media networks and video streamers.

The internet, even in the early 2000's still was a bit wild west and anything remotely cool attracted it's fans.

The Internet left it's wild west phase some time in the mid 2000's (In my opinion). It was after that, it sort of became ubiquitous, everyone had it and everyone was using it. I think this pushed our more fringe culture of cyberpunk and dystopian futurism to the ether. This was also a time of great optimism. The internet was so free at a point that folks just didn't feel that corporate/political boot. So I think we scattered through out the net, finding our little corners or even becoming more Normie ourselves.

In the end, Cyberpunk isn't dead, we're just very scattered and those that still see our incoming future (lets face facts, it's practically happening now) will find ways to congregate.

I'm in a weird way, excited for the censorship and the boot pressing down just right. It's under those pressures that people will find the fringes, the dark corners, the little places where people can still speak free.

The Optimism of the late 2000's is firmly dead, replaced with the reality that the old guard of corporate and political control managed to reign in the internet, focus our collective attentions to their services and started systematically snuffing out any dissent or platforms for free thinking.

Stop thinking the it's dead… It can be a phoenix, perhaps we're all getting a front row seat to it's rebirth.

I sure hope so.


 No.52885

>>52878

>I'm in a weird way, excited for the censorship and the boot pressing down just right. It's under those pressures that people will find the fringes, the dark corners, the little places where people can still speak free.

I feel the same way. Of course we will be nostalgic for the days of free cyberspace (as we are now for oldnet) but we're a generation with no real purpose or battles, a lost generation just wandering about trying to find ourselves. So, like you, I also long for this dystopia as ridiculous as it sounds because I feel that right now we're just waiting for shit to hit the fan. We know it's going to happen. We're so aware of it, but the anticipation is frustrating. Just bring it on you cunts and get it all over with so we can fight and die and maybe even be remembered.

>Stop thinking the it's dead… It can be a phoenix, perhaps we're all getting a front row seat to it's rebirth.

Beautiful way to put it, chummer


 No.52886

>>52885

I think if you don’t work for a big company your not going to get paid well.

Contract work is ok but the gap in between jobs is long.

People are in there subgroups But regulation and laws privacy to easy to find someone.

To little yeast in water the yeast dies. Enough yeast it populates.

Like crabs in a bucket




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