No.338016
I'm becoming more right-wing lately and I'm feeling a little bad about liking guys… how do I stop this? Should I stop caring about politics and stuff? Or maybe I'm just lonely.
No.338017
Those are the questions that keep me up at night
No.338021
>>338017
Are you serious, or making fun of me?
No.338024
>>338021
I'm serious.
I just decided to keep my orientation separated from my political thinking for now.
No.338025
Listen if you can't justify yourself as an individual and feel the need to succumb to the anti gay degeneracy meme rather than having concrete ideas and points rooted in truth on individual topics you have bigger issues.
namely that you're a faggot
No.338030
>>338016
Have sensible politics. It's one thing to have a gay relationship or want to suck cock but it's another to go full pride and be an obnoxious faggit all the time. Right wing doesn't necessarily mean you have to adopt neconservative positions on social issues same goes for left wing etc. Falling for the traditional Christian values meme as a faggot is only going to cause internal conflict when you try to accept yourself. Just live and be reasonable, if you're not doing anything wrong who cares
No.338031
>>338024
I guess that's a good approach to have
>>338025
But what if the anti gay degeneracy meme is a concrete idea?
No.338036
I take the perspective that gay is a symptom or coping mechanism rather than a root issue. And that being straight isnt going to suddenly remove all the drug slinging niggers, arabs, gooks, and single mothers from my country.
No.338042
>>338031
I do have an ideal of respectable gay men that are wholesome, not degenerate and a net gain in society.
This ideal implies accepting being out of marriage and out of raising children, and having the burden of contributing to society at a higher rate than the average heterosexual (to offset the fact that we're useless for continuing the lineage).
It's this ideal that makes me feel justified and how I've decided to fit into society.
TL;DR Contribute to the species in one way or another.
P.S. White people having a subreplacement fertility rate (at least in the US) is a serious issue,
No.338045
>>338031
If you're going to prioritize the idea that you're gay because of societal decay above what you as an individual may create produce or reap via living upright and righteously then you're stuck with the inherent idea of original sin. At which point the philosophical conclusion is to end yourself immediately as you are you are part of the writhing mass of cancer.
Or You know you could say "Hey I like some kinky shit and being extremely gay but that doesn't define my morals or societal value" Or you could be the opposite and be LGBBQ.
Not to mention that the western decay meme is a series of extremely complicated and multi faceted ideas. Which when you push this retarded notion of "purity" none can wholly ascribe to they instead turn to calling each other out to gain virtue. Rather than having people strive to improve they become dejected or rabid tearing at each other from within accomplishing nothing.
The /pol/+/cuteboys/ coalition exist-(ed?) for a reason.
No.338049
>>338016
Read Plato's symposium, and then Xenophon's symposium (a rebuttal). When you finish that read the Iliad if you haven't already and then reflect on the nature of Patroclus' relationship with Achilles with the aid of classical authors. After that I'd beg you to consider for yourself the aspects and types of love that exist, what their value is to you and to society, and if physical pleasure plays a role in virtuous love and if so to what extent. When you have contemplated this to your satisfaction and are ready to either pursue some sort of love or not you can then proceed to reflect on just how crushingly alone you still are and the fact that you just spent a fuck ton of time thinking about this shit that probably could have been better spent elsewhere. Mishima writes some pretty cool books by the way.
No.338051
>>338036
>I take the perspective that gay is a symptom or coping mechanism rather than a root issue.
I agree with this much- but there are other things I factor in.
Some of the conventional "wisdom" regarding homosexuality is that there is a link to pedophilia and pederasty. This, unfortunately, is undeniably true.
>see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5JWc3e4M54
Group 1
There is certainly a disproportionate number of homosexuals who were molested as children/adolescents- who then go on to molest other children/adolescents as a coping mechanism for dealing with what they suffered. They want to make others feel the same violation that they felt- so they can try and get a feeling of control by reliving the trauma in their terms.
Not all molested children become molesters, but a lot of them do.
Another fact relating to this is that 1/3 of all child molesters just happen to be homosexual. 33%. Considering the estimated homosexual population is under 10% and actually estimated around 2-3%- this massive over-representation is something that will NOT go unignored.
It's that segment of the homosexual demographic that really fucks it up for the rest.
==Group 2==The second group in the homosexual demographic is that part that bridges into CD/Transfaggotry territory.
>see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J04bRx2MGi4
The explanation for this second group's homosexuality is that in the womb, the male fetus is given either too much testosterone or given too little at the stage of fetal development where the fetus' sex is being determined usually the latter (all fetus's start out female, that's why men have nipples too).
This hormone imbalance at that critical stage results in a permanent change in the brain structure of the fetus. No amount of hormonal injections or prescriptions can reverse it, the male has been fucked with a less masculine brain structure. This is why some gays are more likely to have shitty coordination, to be more hyper-emotions/irrational, submissive, and of course attracted to the male sex.
A woman lives a fulfilling life when she is able to be with a man, and later give birth to her own children that she raises. Because gays don't have this path, they cannot live what would be for them a truly fulfilling life, and this is why they're so prone to having other mental disorders like depression etc. (Also, women are more likely to have stress-related disorders like anxiety and shit, so that could be an explanation for this group having mental disorders.) It goes without saying that the first group- the molested- are going to have psychological issues for the most part.
Group 3
The third main group of "homosexuals" creates problems for the second group as well as the first one. It consists of all the porn-addicts who only look at gay porn, or are "gay" because they escalated to gay porn from tranny/sissy/dominant female on submissive male porn. This isn't necessarily the order, but regardless, these "homosexuals" can often "cure" their homosexuality by simply doing no-fap, or slowly de-escalating the porn that they're watching back to vanilla stuff. This group may presently constitute the majority of homosexuals, and does the most harm by making it look like all homosexuality can be "cured". you could also probably lob in those who are homosexual because of lonelyness or lack of opposite-sex partners in prisons or on craigslist. Their sexual feelings have been "escalated" or adapted to their women-less circumstance.
There could be other groups, but i think I captured most of them here in this post.
No.338052
>>338049
I enjoyed the unexpected bit of projection at the end
No.338057
>>338051
A couple of small errors in that post, but it makes my point well enough.
to elaborate on
>A woman lives a fulfilling life when she is able to be with a man, and later give birth to her own children that she raises. Because gays don't have this path, they cannot live what would be for them a truly fulfilling life, and this is why they're so prone to having other mental disorders like depression etc. (
It's because this second group of gays has a brain structure more akin to a woman's. (This can be seen in MRIs/xrays, i forgot exactly what, check the second jewtube link.)
Now
What to do with these faggots
Group 1, I don't think I need to elaborate too much on it, it's not that complicated of a problem. Imprisonment/execution/registration. A lot of subjective ethics to talk about here, I'm not going to go into it. "Curing" pedophilia is not really a possible option at the moment unfortunately. It's the closest thing to a contagious psychological condition that probably exists. If I, myself were to have kids, I would not want them being anywhere near another homosexual in private- that's just basic probability calculation. 33% of molesters being homosexual? Not work risking once. Prevention is the best measure here.
Group 2, I don't believe in the current "solution" to feminine-brained males, known presently as transsexualism. You can't force everyone to believe that sex-changes count. Because of this, post-op MtFs will never get accepted as women, and post-op FtMs will never get accepted as men. If we could genetically/atomically alter people right down at the DNA/Chromosomal level, then MAYBE'. We're not there yet though.
Another problem- since feminine-brained men will want to raise children, same-sex adoption would have to be an option. The thing is, however, is that when you fuck up the family structure for a child's upbringing, that child just by pure probability is going to be more fucked. Just look at how that's working for the children raised by single-mothers.
> According to Child Trends, 2013 only 9% of children lived with single parents in the 1960s—a figure that increased to 28% in 2012.[34] The main cause of single parent families are high rates of divorce and non-marital childbearing. According to Blankenhorn 1995,[35] Fagan 1999,[36] Pearlstein 2011,[37] Popenoe 2009[38] and Whitehead 1997[39] researches, single parent family is the primary cause of school failure and problems of delinquency, drug use, teenage pregnancies, poverty, and welfare dependency in American society. Using multilevel modeling, Pong 1997 and Pong 1998 high proportions of children from single parent families perform very poorly on math and reading achievement tests in schools.
Amato, Paul R., Sarah Patterson, and Brett Beattie. "Single-Parent Households And Children’S Educational Achievement: A State-Level Analysis." Social Science Research 53.(2015): 191-202. SocINDEX with Full Text. Web. 18 March. 2017.
Blankenhorn, 1995 D. Blankenhorn Fatherless America: Confronting Our Most Urgent Social Problem Basic Books, New York (1995)
"How Broken Families Rob Children of Their Chances for Future Prosperity". The Heritage Foundation. Retrieved 2017-01-18.
M. Pearlstein From Family Collapse to America's Decline: The Educational, Economic, and Social Costs of Family Disintegration Rowman & Littlefield, New York, NY (2011)
D. Popenoe Families without Fathers: Fathers, Marriage, and Children in American Society Transaction Publishers, New Brunswick, NJ (2009)
B.D. Whitehead The Divorce Culture Alfred Knopf, New York (1997)
So again, presently I think prevention is the best measure here as well. Trying to optimize/stabilize the hormonal levels while the fetus is still in the womb, through monitoring and injections.
Group 3 is an easy fix as well that I feel that I don't need to elaborate on.
So when the other groups are taken care of, the remaining homosexuals are no longer a threat to society, but now a bit more parasitic. To make up for it they could try and follow
>>338041 's ideal
>I do have an ideal of respectable gay men that are wholesome, not degenerate and a net gain in society.
>This ideal implies accepting being out of marriage and out of raising children, and having the burden of contributing to society at a higher rate than the average heterosexual (to offset the fact that we're useless for continuing the lineage).
>TL;DR Contribute to the species in one way or another.
All of this post and the previous one are my views on homosexuality as someone who is presently either right-wing or right-leaning.
No.338058
>>338057
>Trying to optimize/balance the hormonal levels while the fetus is still in the womb, through monitoring and hormone injections.
No.338067
>>338057
First image smells like bullshit.
Manipulating Contrast, Saturation and Hue makes every sample -except #5- clearer.
No.338071
>>338067
You don't have to be in such serious denial about your homosexuality anon, you're on /cuteboys/ after all :^) You can't change the facts. And the facts are, if you are on /cuteboys/ and you can't see #5 in that image, at least one of those things is going to be an indication that you have a sexual attraction towards people of the same sex.
No.338073
>>338067
On an unrelated note, assuming that flag is of the country you're actually in and not just some VPN IP, was the communism that failed in Venezuela real communism in your opinion?
No.338074
>>338071
Nah, I want to believe the image but I'm just not convinced. Actually might have to reverse search it.
No.338078
>>338073
Being truthful and honest, it's not real Socialism/Communism as described in theory. The problem with Marxism and its derivates is that they will never reach their true form for more than a miraculous glimpse in time, because it's incompatible with human nature.
Thus, real socialism is impossible, and has never been tried. But that's because it cannot even be reached, so all the historical attempts end in failure and tragic misery.
I mean really, the revolution here has been going on since 1999, so 18 years and an all but autocratic political party later and they still struggle to even begin to look like Socialism? Yeah right
No.338081
>>338078
>The problem with Marxism and its derivates is that they will never reach their true form for more than a miraculous glimpse in time, because it's incompatible with human nature.
This is my understanding as well
>>338074
>Nah, I want to believe the image but I'm just not convinced. Actually might have to reverse search it.
I'll let you in on a little secret :^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^)it's a fake image:^)
No.338082
>>338071
Tested the image on my mother and she doesn't see anything either.
Looked up the image and all I saw was content aggregator sites.
You got me, hope you're HAPPY >:^(
Polite sage.
No.338083
>>338082
>Tested the image on my mother and she doesn't see anything either.
I hate to break it to you, but perhaps that explains why her offspring is currently posting on /cuteboys/
No.338084
>>338083
Touché
>was gonna use this pic for my wall of text
No.338088
>>338084
ebin meme friendo
No.338098
>>338030
I'm falling for the "traditional family values" meme. It's just like you say, it's all about how far are you willing to go to defend these ideas, but gays don't fit very well in this context, and I feel bad.
>>338036
You're right, being straight wouldn't solve any of the issues of society. But it still troubles me on a personal level.
>>338042
>and having the burden of contributing to society at a higher rate than the average heterosexual
How do you do that?
>P.S. White people having a subreplacement fertility rate (at least in the US) is a serious issue,
It's not much a problem here since most people race mix anyway, but browsing /pol/ makes me feel a little bad for not having blonde kids when I could.
>>338051
>>338057
Interesting reading. What's your opinion on the lgbt movement? Do you think they should be banned like in Russia?
No.338102
>>338098
>What's your opinion on the lgbt movement?
I'm not sure if there is any other cesspool of criminal degeneracy that can compare. I say criminal because of all the harm to children that's being done through their agenda.
>>338057
>>338057
2nd pic very relevant
Between the children who are raised by gay parents who will be psychologically fucked, the sex change surgies on 4 and 5 year-olds, any individual that supports that movement is fucking reprehensible.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3767174/Child-4-starts-gender-transition-day-kindergarten.html
http://www.wnd.com/2016/09/child-4-worlds-youngest-ever-sex-change-patient/
And the thing is, there is no end to this movement's agenda. Once they get everything they want, including all the fucked up shit, their demands will only escalate. The international lgbt association (ILGA) originally had NAMBLA as a member when they achieved UN consultative status in the 90s. In case you didn't know what NAMBLA was, it's the North American Man/Boy Love Association a pedophile and pederasty advocacy organization in the United States. It works to abolish age-of-consent laws criminalizing adult sexual involvement with minors[2][3] and campaigns for the release of men who have been jailed for sexual contacts with minors that did not involve coercion.
>Do you think they should be banned like in Russia?
pic related (spoiler'd)
No.338108
>>338102
Good points. I think some places even in the west could be a little more tolerant of gays, it's sad that some parents disown their teenagers fag sons. But accepting a movement like that isn't the solution. Didn't know about this NAMBLA thing, pretty fucked up.
No.338109
>>338016
By the way- not trying to D&C /cuteboys/ or anything, but theres a board for right-leaning homosexuals here that often gets overlooked.
>>>/logcabin/
I might have to repost some of the posts i made in this thread over there somewhere.
No.338115
I will openly say this on the matter. Sorta related. I don't support or get involved with the LGBTQ movements or anything. They are all toxic and sex crazed paradises disguised as pride.
Yes, you can have pride in who you are. But being gay/lebsian/bi/trans/queer/<insert other alphabetical nonsense here>, is NOT the only thing your life should be about. Outside of being a fag or carpet muncher, what else is there to you? Your sexuality should not monopolize your personality.
Thats why most of the gays here and everywhere else have such problems because they think that being gay is an excuse to not be a decent human being. If you are gay you are given that gold star that you can't be racist/sexist/ageist or whatever. Gay people are just PEOPLE and subject to any other flaws like just like their hetero counterparts.
Ironically, I kinda hate myself for being gay because I see the awful true nature behind LGBTQ and no matter what I do or say, I will somehow be linked to that, simply because I like to suck dick and take it up the ass occasionally.
*falls off soapbox*
No.338117
>>338016
What does being right-wing have to do with feeling bad about liking guys? I mean I guess there's the not producing white children and furthering you race, but you can probably make up for that by lynching a few niggers.
No.338118
No.338119
>>338109
It's dead, sadly. Otherwise I'd be there instead of here.
No.338123
>tfw really really want children so so badly
I think about having them all the time but then I realise that there are no women who I'd want to even know for the rest of my life or are not good looking enough
I also do not want to adopt and have never met a guy that I'd want to marry or have children with. And I can't have a single parent.
It would be child abuse to have a child with no mother.
Life is hard.
No.338124
>>338057
Number 5 is not there.
I showed my fam and none of them could distinguish number 5.
No.338157
Stop listening to /pol/ because you're easily manipulated and instead just become an anarchist.
No.338158
>>338016
>You can be right wing and gay at the same time
Stop listening to libshits, that's a start.
No.338159
>>338157
what a stupid meme ideology
No.338162
No.338169
>>338159
>>338162
Everything else is pretty much "stop liking what I don't like" : the ideology
So what innocent thing triggers you?
No.338180
>>338169
>having to reach out to dead people to defend your edgy ideology
Please stop
No.338182
>>338169
There are some edgy teenagers that never grow up.
No.338183
>>338180
>>338182
>"live and let live", democracy, and non-violence are edgy
Interesting opinions.
No.338187
>>338157
>you're easily manipulated
>just become an anarchist
Heh
No.338189
>>338183
Society needs to be organized, democracy is a failure and might makes right. Imagine being this categorically wrong.
No.338190
>>338189
Democracy is a form of organization, anarchism is a form of democracy, the most successful societies have all been democratic in one way or another.
The cooperating might of all people is obviously stronger than the divided might of a competing people. A house divided against itself cannot stand.
No.338191
>>338183
>"live and let live"
is that how we're going to deal with the criminals?
>democracy
democracy requires an intelligent and informed populace. Because of the Pareto distribution, those people are in the minority, so it just becomes a popularity contest- the winner determined by the majority vote of the uninformed and unintelligent.
>non-violence
This idea is incompatible with the nature of man.
No.338192
>>338191
>is that how we're going to deal with the criminals?
I get tired of explaining this every day, here.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchist_law
>democracy requires an intelligent and informed populace. Because of the Pareto distribution, those people are in the minority, so it just becomes a popularity contest- the winner determined by the majority vote of the uninformed and unintelligent.
Not representative democracy, local direct democracy. The winner would be a course of action, not a person, and it's only reasonable that people do the things they most want to do and believe is the best idea. Who else is going to make this decision? Philosopher kings? lel
>This idea is incompatible with the nature of man.
Well respected scientist prince peter kropotkin would say mutual aid is a factor in evolution, present in nature among more than just man but other species as well.
No.338193
>I'm becoming more right-wing
>Brazil
If you mean free market capitalism+crackdown on commis this is no issue with faggotry.
If you mean some hue-nationalism with authoritanian government you can still be a fag. If its some racewar you think about then you are fell for the memes as you are a newworlder liberated from our ethnic conflicts.
If you are for catholicism or the last in line of your family then you have a problem.
You have siblings?
No.338195
>>338192
So then what's your response to some power gathering to smash the anarchists and set up a different form of society? Because that's what happened in Mesopotamia and Europe. Sorry but your dream is fleeting before it goes back to being the way it is now.
No.338197
>>338098
Ok so now tell me what you see wrong with having a boyfriend and living together while mostly keeping to yourselves. Is there something morally objectionable here? Because I have yet to hear a convincing argument. I hear the one about children all the time but to me it usually sounds like hardcore liberal ideologues pushing their gay agenda on their adopted kids instead of two fags raising kids. Even if you concede that argument theres still nothing wrong with having a boyfriend who you live your life with. The degeneracy is a whole other thing.
No.338198
>>338195
>So then what's your response to some power gathering to smash the anarchists and set up a different form of society?
You mean a successful revolution? What's your societies response to a successful revolution? You know you have nothing valuable to say when all you're left with is "w-well what if we kill you better"
No.338201
>>338198
The problem is with an anarchist society it is far easier for this, as it can't be sustained. It's hardly a revolution when there isn't a centralized government or ruling power. And if there is a centralized government, doesn't that defeat the purpose?
No.338202
>>338192
Can you not articulate your own beliefs? You shouldn't have to redirect people to wikipedia to explain your own beliefs. If you've really explained it every day, then it should be that much easier for you since you've had so much practice.
Since you're outsourcing your beliefs to wikipedia, you've already contradicted yourself.
You've indicated that non-violence is a part of Anarchy, but Wikipedia says that Anarchists are only against violence instituted by the state because it creates a monopoly on the use of legal violence.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_(polity)#Anarchist
>Anarchists believe that the state is inherently an instrument of domination and repression, no matter who is in control of it. Anarchists note that the state possesses the monopoly on the legal use of violence.
So anarchists want a free-market of violence?
No.338205
>>338201
Sounds like a lot of claims without any reasons for those claims. Why isn't it able to be sustained? Our biggest problem historically has been getting killed by the soviets, but this has been a problem for many other societies as well. There is a decentralized non-hierarchical government by the way.
>>338202
I shouldn't keep getting into situations where I have to explain the same concept every damn day of my life either so laziness while not good is at least reasonable in this situation.
The monopoly on the legal use of violence is noted in that if only one entity is allowed to decide what violence is justified and what violence is not, it will change around what is considered justified to meet its own needs, which is shown with resource wars, the cia overthrowing democratically elected governments (once even just to lower banana prices), or even isis is an example of this, and violence when viewed from the perspective of a society is good only when it benefits society and the members of that society, individual domination and repression are still domination and repression.
No.338215
>>338205
>Our biggest problem historically has been getting killed by the soviets
So recent? Sorry but pressing the societal reset button will only lead it back to here. And you still haven't addressed my claims at all, only that they were "without reason." You can have the last word, this is silly.
No.338217
>>338157
I have a friend who recently fell into the /leftypol/ meme, and I honestly cannot describe it better than him being manipulated into it. He was already full black pill with the whole "what's the point, nothing matters, we're all just gonna die" thing and was super depressed. This depression and totally giving up on life is what made the Stirner bullshit meme resonate with him so well. And from the threads he's linked me, /leftypol/ looks like it's half a fucking support group not unlike the sadness thread here and I think that's one of the biggest reasons he goes there, because he has nowhere else like that.
It's all quite sad. /leftypol/ needs to die.
No.338218
>>338217
It's half support group, half indoctrination with how antifa's been trying to establish a foothold. Just a bunch of lost kids who are trying to be on the right side of history.
No.338220
>>338215
Building a new democratic society based on the ideas of a scientist isn't exactly "pressing the rest button".
Yes, I have addressed your claims.
>Why isn't it able to be sustained?
Take into consideration that they have been successfully sustained until they lost a war against the soviets, similar to how the fascists lost as well.
>>338217
>the Stirner bullshit meme
He's a legitimate individualist philosopher and inspired nietzsche. Just because you don't like him doesn't mean he's not entirely valid. The same goes for hegel, kropotkin, debord, bookchin, or anyone of the other writers posted about on that board, they're all more valid sources than fucking "black pill" or "red pill" circle jerks.
Just for you I went to /leftypol/ and looked at their catalog, and marked the threads that could somehow be called similar to the sadness thread on related to /r9k/-like topics.
Sure is half the threads alright.
No.338221
>>338220
For the record I prefer more explicitly anarchist boards over /leftypol/. Smaller chans are where it's at.
No.338225
>>338220
>democratic society
This is how I know you're retarded. Democracy is obsolete.
No.338227
>>338225
What kind of american says that?
No.338247
You need to realize that your unhealthy feelings are rooted in the judeo-christian traditions and customs which affected Western population for 1500 years and have a huge influence on our minds via emotions and intuition - homosexuality is still a taboo in the majority of groups of western societies and breaking a taboo makes one uncomfortable due to the deeply social nature of men. The key is to be aware of that and realize that it's an irrational and hostile process you should try to reject if it stands in your way to happiness.
No.338264
>>338016
The two are not contradictory.
You can be right-wing or lean right-wing and have any sexual preference under the sun.
No.338284
You can be gay and right-wing; the /pol/ "muh degeneracy" meme is mostly spread through the assumption that being gay is the problem rather than the extreme narcissism of the left.
I was vocally against my local gay pride parade and other such events despite being openly bi; it all narrows down to treating [fringe group] like everyone else (ie not giving a shit) rather than elevating them on a pedestal, which is what the left does, primarily as a tactic for maintaining the supposed moral highground. Pride parades, and really any other sort of public obnoxiousness does nothing but damage.
No.338293
>>338227
Americans have never believed in total democracy, our nation is a democratic-republic. The founding fathers of America recognized democracies as mob rule that divides the nation, and reduces leadership to a popularity contest.
This "American" idea that democracies are somehow the best form of government is one that's been pushed by (((them))) only since the early 20th century.
No.338300
>>338016
You should stop being such a fucking faggot
No.338302
>>338300
I mean, it's a better long term strategy to do this lel.
No.338359
>>338016
you really need to have more sex and fulfilling more sexual fantasies
No.338360
For years I was right wing. Since a few years ago I say I'm more in the middle, but more and more I keep finding out I'm pretty right wing. I just want small government and for the people to be left the fuck alone. All I want them to do is make sure people don't attack us and make sure people don't come in illegally. I don't care what people do as long as it's not hurting other people, I think we should all have guns, however…I still have wishes that I don't know should be law or not, but it's how I feel. I'm against gays having kids or being married. I've become pro-life over the years.
While I'm on the right with that stuff I don't really care if people do drugs as long as they don't bother other people with it I could care less. None of this effects my gayness though. My thoughts on gay marriage have made my friends double take. They were shocked a gay guy would be so anti-LGBT, but I can't blame them since I'm the only gay guy they've never met, why would they know many of us hate them.
tl;dr You can be right wing and be gay. It's fine. As long as you are a polite person in life and hold your morels high and be a good guy, everything will be okay, anon. Be proud you're not on the left.
No.338363
>>338359
>you really need to have more sex and fulfilling more sexual fantasies
There's an old saying that "Nobody ever had a sexual fantasy about getting ravaged by a liberal."
No.338367
>he seriously thinks that being gay is either a rightwing or leftwing thing
Top kek.
Small hint: it's about economic policies for the most part. The left being pro-nonstraight friendly all of a sudden and the right being anti-gay is just but a media narrative.
No.338368
>>338157
I thought you had to be 18+ to post here.
No.338369
>>338217
Just introduce him to the sadness thread here then.
Commies doesn't give a shit about people or communities so /leftypol/ will just use him for their own dumb ideas.
No.338750
>>338016
You shouldn't stop caring about politics and stuff. I am in a similar position, I hate the majority of the LGBTQIALMNOP shit and most other fags because they're complicit in the weird and disgusting behavior that the extreme crowd gets up to. There is no traditional family meme like you said >>338098 this is how you are meant to feel and what you are supposed to want. But it's like what >>338036 said, it's a symptom of a shit society.
tldr; you'll be grand as long as you don't go prancing around looking for poz loads to be shot into your arse
No.340875
>>338030
>A leaf giving a reasonable answer
What the fuck?
No.341238
>>338057
>5
that's the control though
No.341247
>>341238
no ur just gay :^)
No.341373
You're feeling bad because being a faggot isn't something to be proud of. It is objectively shameful and self-destructive behavior.
Think of it like alcoholism, or any sort of degenerate behavior that falls under that umbrella. Alcoholics can still be productive and contributing members of society, but that doesn't mean you should be going around praising alcohol abuse.
So indulge, but check yourself every once in awhile. And learn to come to terms with the fact that 1 in 5 men you fuck will have aids so it's likely you will too eventually.
No.341465
>effeminate
>want to be trap
>post here,see if I fit
>get compliments
>feelsgoodman.jpg
>wait…
>fuck that's degenerate
>absolutelydisgusting.png
>go on /pol/ and post how much I hate fags to compensate
I can't live with this paradox help.
No.344532
What the hell is wrong with you people?
Political views have nothing to do with sexuality and sexuality has nothing to do with political views!!!
Secondly, Right wing doesn't mean religious and religious doesn't mean right wing!
Thirdly, it is not our fault that some modern dipshits fucked up the meaning of right-wing (right = anti-gay).
Traditional right-wing meant very capitalistic (no social support, the poor can starve to death), centralized democratic government, nationalistic (pride and historical importance).
No.344544
>>338057
I genuinely can't see the 5th number, is that a legit image or a troll one?
No.344547
>>344532
>right = anti-gay
That's a lie invented by leftists to try and trick gays into voting for them with is suicide given how libshits want to import muzzies in and we all know what they do to gays.
There's nothing even with being nationalistic or taking pride in your countries history if anything not doing that is spitting on your ancestors.
No.344570
>>341465
I like to think that the BUF was more of the, "ignore the alternative sexualities," as opposed to the German gas all the degenerates. Honestly all that is needed is for attractive women to have attractive babies who necessarily have attractive fathers… Sparta was the first volkish state according to Hitler and yet bisexuality brotherhood/sisterhood was close to the official policy. Homophobia is Judaic in origin. In the Hellenic world, as long as you had power that was all that mattered. Like taking it in the ass? Fine, but don't be weak. Don't chase disease. Don't disregard family life.
No.344589
>>341465
Anon, stop worrying yourself with the idea that Fags are degenerate. So are bitches, but are all women who like to fuck men degenerate? So there are homosexual degenerates, they are just part of an endless line of everyone else who is a degenerate. I mean if we are going to say that Miley Cyrus is part of a plan to make our people degenerate, well it's not exactly aimed at fags is she? We have a "subculture" that is influenced by the same people your average straight man is.
TL;DR: The paradox itself is a meme, and this is just exactly what the people who hate us in the first place want. So be homosexual, and stop worrying. And make some pretty gay friends, that's what I did.
No.344590
>>338016
Friendo, you might as well stop thinking being a fag means you can't be right-wing, I mean, we're talking about how most on the right-wing either are IN LOVE with Jews, or hate them. Well, does being a right-winger make you a Jew lover, or Jew hater? Since Israel is mainly hated by the left these days. See the kind of split here? You can be a homosexual right-winger who shares some values but doesn't follow all the doctrines that social conservatives do.
No.344592
>>344570
Right on point Icelandic-anon. Many of our idols basically worshipped the ancient Greeks and Romans. And they had about as much wrong with homosexuality (which may or may not have even had a term at the time) as your average 8chan user has with free speech.
No.344595
>>338016
>I'm becoming more right wing lately
That's called growing up anon, welcome to being an adult. Let us know when you've resolved to remove kebab and restore the West with us.
No.344596
>>338117
>>338118
Killing people is not an adequate replacement for faltering reproductive rates. At the very least freeze your sperm if you have good genetics. I have no patience for faggots who were graced with good genes and decided to throw them in the fucking garbage disposal that is a long term monogamous gay relationship.
No.344599
>>344544
You're being memed.
No.344605
>>338016
Well you're not going to be able to change a fundamental element of yourself like what kind of people you can fall in love with, if that's what you're asking for.
No.344616
>>338016
It depends on which right wing do you support:
fringe extremist literally hitler alt-right: totally incompatible
traditional conservative right wing: mostly incompatible
new populist modernized right wing: mostly compatible
libertarian / classic liberal right wing: totally compatible
Go right-wing, but not too much. Self hatred is an awful thing.
>>338247
Good advice.
>>341465
Stop posting on /pol/
>>344532
>Traditional right-wing meant very capitalistic (no social support, the poor can starve to death), centralized democratic government, nationalistic (pride and historical importance).
AND social conservative christian values, which means anti-gay. I don't know why you would ignore the obvious.
>>344592
>And they had about as much wrong with homosexuality (which may or may not have even had a term at the time) as your average 8chan user has with free speech.
Unless you were an effeminate bottom like 80% of this board, then they did have a problem with it.
No.344618
>>338016
You should stop being such a degenerate cuckservative
No.344631
Just here to say that /pol/ is a big red flag,whether you're left or right.
No.344646
No.344744
>>344646
he's right, /pol/ has dropped in quality since 2014 at least and has been nothing but shit tier shill accusations and unconditional pandering to almost everything right leaning.
No.344783
>>344596
You do realize that sperm banks are only interested in sperm from men who look like Hollywood stars? It doesn't matter how "good your genetics": whether your family has never had a single incidence of cancer, lives healthy and strong into their high 90's, and are predisposed to having IQs over 140, they don't care; women looking to get artificially inseminated don't care about those things. If you're not pure caucasian, do not have blue eyes, and are not over 6' tall, they'll turn you away as soon as you walk in.
No.344812
The whole traditional-family-value meme is dumb and flawed, you don't lose your parental instincts for seeking to be a faggot, quite the contrary, our genes don't even stop spreading for choosing to take it in the ass either, sure, it's much more difficult to do so given our current circumstances, but most of these boundaries are social constructs, in a couple decades, surrogacy could be much more widespread and avaliable economic wise, we're just not quite there yet, We still have adoption and whatever, but I know pol will give me shit aobut how I'm a cuck for wanting to raise someone else's kid. (Again, I don't give a shit about family values, and I'm a spic anyway so what good would my genes do even)
No.344899
>>344812
Cute picture Paraguay Anon. But yeah, I hear you. We can uphold some family values while we actually have families, as in the basics, giving our kids what they need, not being total sluts in front of them, stuff like that. Personally I dislike surrogacy, it's pretty retarded how the mother can hop back into the kid's life, and if for some reason she finds a way to find you unfit, get custody of it, and then fucking make you pay child support. I'd rather rely on freakishly strange scientific mumbo than the unreliable nature of some bitch with diamonds in her vision…anyway.
You'd be surprised how much of /pol/ comes here in a double-life, as some here might show you. And don't put yourself down even jokingly, latinboys can be cute!
No.344921
This thread is a goddamn disgrace to reason. Giving importance to things eventually reducible to petty pride and throwing in a purely masochistic fashion, throwing hollow words or just being mean to each other. This is your brain on /pol/.
No.344935
>>338157
>becoming a cuck that things he can do anything on his own while he cant even wipe his own ass
No thanks, I'm not 3 anymore.
No.347481
Have you considered not being right wing? Like, it's obviously only fucking people like us over lmao
No.347482
Really anon, just actually only believe in trustworthy sources who CITE THEIR DATA. The "redpill" is all unfounded bullshit, people like alex jones routinely report on shit as untrustworthy as some random tweet (and yes, that has happened multiple times) from random people. Just fucking educate yourself with proper sources. Who do you think could better explain africa, for example: a bunch of nazis whove never seen it, or the people who live there? Sources, sources, sources.
No.347498
>>344547
>That's a lie invented by leftists to try and trick gays into voting for them
except right wing parties historically have been very bad on gay rights so is it really a lie or are you just trying to turn the fact that conservatives fucking hate gays into some international jewry leftist conspiracy theory
>>338169
thats surprisingly apt lmao
No.347513
This is mandatory reading for anyone who doesn't want to delude themselves.
Don't come back until you've completed your course in Advanced Homophobia.
http://mpcdot.com/forums/topic/6651-the-institute-for-advanced-homophobia/
This is reality. This is what's waiting out there. Insanity and GRIDS.
And you'd better be fucking aware of it if you don't want to die. This is what gays, as a group, are like. This is the status quo.
Homosexuality is not a sexual orientation. Homosexuality is a symptom, with many, many causes. Some much worse than others. Most of the people who post here seem pretty okay. 8chan has always been a home for society's misfits among misfits with hearts of gold.
So do yourself a favor. Take heed, because you will be taken advantage of. You will be preyed upon. You will be relentlessly pursued by the 1.8% of the population that causes 67% of all AIDS cases.
Don't get sucked in.
Are you still gonna be a faggot? Probably, faggot. Because you're a faggot. But the warning has been issued. You've read it. Now decide what to do.
t. faggot
No.347992
>>347482
>Who do you think could better explain africa, for example: a bunch of nazis whove never seen it, or the people who live there?
>rhodesians, who built civilization from dirt
>africans, who rape children to cure AIDS
Definitely the nazis.
No.349344
>>338016
it depends, what kind of gay are you? Top that likes femboys? Because then the switch to straight wouldn't be that hard if it really bothers you. Bottom that likes manly tops? Then just find a stronk independant woman to peg you.
A lot of my fellow faggots always complain about "jailhouse gays" and shit like that. But what they don't realize is sexuality is on a spectrum just like autism and that you can be a faggy straight guy as well.
No.349352
Let me put it like this, i know i will gladly fuck a cute cross dressing boy, but i sure as hell don't want the future generation to be like me, sexual orientation and political thought can be kept seperate, that is what being man is all about.
No.349353
>>349344
infact, what i find retarded is people try to normalfag this shit, i mean bloody hell, even we kmow this all is not biologically normal, it does not takes a genius to figure one in hundred, guy being cute, femenine and crossdressing is okay, but all of them? jesus no, fuck is wrong with tumblr? and what is this "i'm a woman" crap? you are feminine boy, i am a man with kink for cross dressing boy pussy, end of story, don't give a lame "its genetic" reason, that is not true, woman don't even have a gene that scientist claim to have anything to do with sexual orientation.
No.349356
No.349377
>>349353
Agreed, you can have your fetishes, but don't pretend they're normal. If you get off to pretending to be a woman, that's fine, but don't try to convince me or yourself that you ARE a woman.
No.349384
>>338067
>>338071
Its a troll pic that I've seen many times. Although every one in this thread but me is a massive fag.
No.349418
It is possible to be a Nazi and like taking it / giving it in the ass. Simply join/create your local alt-Nazi group where it is not a problem. Really, caring about the fate of your ethnic group does not require you to hate 'the gays.'
No.349419
>>338016
Honestly I don't consider myself right or left wing. But I care about Eugenics. If Haiti was 100% Celtic instead of 100% black black the place would be an absolute paradise. If Africa was 100% White British / French, Japanese, or hell, even Chinese, it would be a much more pleasant place. Eugenics has the ability to improve the quality (as determined by the deciding intelligence) of any species / sub-species. Liberal Eugenics (where it's the choice of the parent(s) and not the state) even removes the moral challenges of state intervention.
No.349420
>>349419
*note
When I mention moral challenges I refer to what western civilization currently has issues with. It could be argued that the failure to improve the genetics of the future generations is a greater moral wrong than the infringement on personal liberty (Hitlers view)… but I am for personal liberty first… unless I happen to be the Supreme Leader / Monarch ^.^
No.349439
>>338057
>equating having 2 fathers to having 1 mother
u a bit slow, eh?
in all seriousness, i hope you get help.
No.353826
>>338016
I'm pretty far to the right but I've had very little internal conflict about being bi and the stuff I do with guys. Maybe it's because I'm exclusively dom/top, but since my political/social philosphy isn't based on christian or muslim traditionalism and more of a natural law principle I don't feel bad about it. Of course I never want it to mix with my public life (let alone publicly flaunt it), I'll keep it secret, and I'm not at all Christian/muslim. LGBT and all the degeneracy that it promotes can rot away in its own subversive filth as far as I care.
I'm also bi and intend on having a wife and many kids in the end so maybe that makes my experience with it different.
No.353827
>>344570
This is more or less my view on this. Homo/bisexuality should be acknowledged but confined to its own place in society, not as something to replace a normal way of life. It should be seen as a power exchange that venerates the masculine, practiced out of the way by the small minority that it naturally manifests in.
No.353851
>>338016
if you have a traditional family, just with another dude, and raise your kid right wing, it'll be fine.
No.353862
No.354044
You get more right-wing/dumber every day if you don't read. Preferably Marx.
No.356670
Just because you consider yourself a conservative, doesn't mean you can't be gay
No.356671
>>338016
Roman style pederasty or what if the child consents, tho?
Hard chocies. Hard choices…
No.356690
>>338051
>>338057
MRI studies show that the only trans group with "female brains" are mtfs who are lesbians.
https://archive.is/8wMFZ
It's not that the in utero hormone exposure thing is BS, but those people are provably not not "female brained", there may be some other factors at play. You also did not mention the correlation between birth order and homosexuality. The more older brothers someone has the more likely they are to be a homo. This is somewhat related to studies done on samoan homosexuals known as "fa'afafine" ( https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3338633/ ). These studies seem to show that there is a non sex linked femininity trait which could evolve because of the increased reproductive output it causes in females. The males effected by this trait and the birth order effect(they might be the same gene) have a net positive effect on their genetic relatives by helping out with traditionally female tasks; grandparents which are a similar genetic distance apart have the same incentive.
If you want to look into how to properly integrate homosexuals of what you refer to as type 2 into society you should really study the fa'afafine. There is also many more observed bisexual men in samoa as well as fa'afafine who are exclusive bottoms but not many exclusively gay tops. ( https://www.uleth.ca/dspace/handle/10133/3745 pdf link to the full paper there).
No.356808
>>338016
The whole "but the gays are bad!" is something that I've never even seen anyone attempt to justify with anything other than bible thumping or "muh natural order", and neither of those are particularly factual arguments.
I'm not sure if that helps you, but for me personally I gave up on the idea of all my beliefs aligning with one "group" a long time ago.
Most political groups have a few well thought out ideas thrown in with a couple of batshit ones that are based 90% on feeling but that align in terms of "theme" with the well thought out ones. A good example is some femi-nazis: equality for women isn't such a terrible idea…. the problem is when you tack on other "related" ideas that are all feels and such.
Anyway, before this becomes a politics rant, there's really nothing based in logical, scientific, or objective fact that argues being gay is incompatible with most right wing things.
Unless you mean like Nazis, in which case that's a whole other discussion.
No.356812
I feel ya anon but right wing beliefs don't directly contradict homosexuality. Hell almost every major militaristic power up to the middleages practiced homosexuality for pleasure, brotherhood, and or allegiance. Personally I find it to he reassuring that men can share a bond that women can't understand deeply.
although I'm sure dressing up in thigh highs and getting dom'd by my bf wasn't exactly what the had in mind
That being said I too have a slight disparity between my beliefs and my sexuality. I.e. i absolutely hate most gay people I know. Not because they're gay but because they're flamboyant faggots and make liking dick their main character trait. It's shallow, disgraceful, and annoying.
>>349419
I can agree with this post to a certain extent. Ethnic nationalism would result in a mich more peaceful and stable world. Also orcposting bedt posting.
No.357168
>>338016
No. I would consider myself as right wing too, I don't like the gay scene because its just sexistic and disgusting, but it shouldn't make you feel bad about being gay.
>TFW gay and voting AFD
No.357185
>>354044
kill all marxists.
No.357263
White people are just better. Admitting it is the first step. Also white guys are just more attractive than all others.
No.358475
>>347498
>except right wing parties historically have been very bad on gay rights
Prove it.
No.358498
>>338016
become my nazi bf
No.358518
>>338016
i support trump
i also dress as a normal human being
but fuck i love cock
but its easy to keep being gay, just do these simple steps:
1. |suck more cock|
2. |suck even more cock|
3. |suck so much more cock that ymca gets jealous|
No.358684
>>354044
If you don't read Marx? You're right about that. I felt my brain dying the more I read that kikeish bullshit.
No.358701
>>344544
you have to look at it from an angle, it's 65
No.358768
>>358743
That image doesn't prove shit. Marx did not invent communism. Dialectics are from Hegel and should not be used alone when analyzing history, but it is not the be all end all to history. Capitalism is not a perfectly effcient egalitarian system. That retard is using the same tired "everyone will be paid the same from the CEO to the Janitor" argument. Defending capital is defending your right to play the lotto. Most businesses fail, not because of government or laziness, either because of luck or being outcompeted by large businesses. In communism the most skilled or hardest working will be rewarded accordingly and not subject to the chaos of the market or the inherent need for unemployment in capitalism as a check on inflation.
No.358770
>>358768
>MUH NOT REAL COMMUNISSM
No.358771
>>358768
>In communism the most skilled or hardest working will be rewarded accordingly
Prove it. You can't and you wont. Because communism never works and will not ever work.
No.358782
>>358770
>MUH NO TRUE SCOTSMAN FALLACY
>MUH FALLACY FALLACY
>Muh Ad hoc quo ad hominem strawman scotsman fallacy
No.358783
>>358771
>Prove it. You can't and you wont. Because communism never works and will not ever work.
read the fucking theory if you want a genuine understanding of how , which you won't, cause you don't. So I leave you with this, if hard work increases profits, your hard work will be rewarded by getting a higher wage even as everyone gets paid the same, at least with mutualism, and direct you to pic related.
No.358788
>>358782
>>Muh Ad hoc quo ad hominem strawman scotsman fallacy
kek
No.358899
Simple, just don't become right wing. and read actual political theory instead.
>>358768
>Marx did not invent communism
What?
>Hegel's dialectics are the same as Marx's dialectics
What?
No.358902
>>338016
I am not gay and I'm a regular at /pol/. I have been looking and talking to cuteboys because women are seriously pieces of trash. They're either fat, fucked 50 dudes, and/or have serious mental issues. Plus they have no personality (they haven't been sharpened their whole lives by pain, but instead had everything in life given to them). I've been seriously considered why the fuck not. So I can shit out another fat dumb whore who'll just make interracial kids anyways, or a dumb cuck who'll be so trendy. I don't need this shit in my life. Plenty of cuteboys who love the same things I do. Plus they even look better (more feminine) than the fucking females. I'm gonna find me a cuteboy wife and idgaf. Talking to one rn and thinking about asking him out. Should I treat him like a would a girl or what? Never been with a dude before (no homo). tips?
No.358913
>>358902
Tips? yea, your gonna be sucking on one.
No.358921
>>358902
I don't think I'm gay either. Body and facial hair is a big turn off on me or on someone else. I like female bodies, with puffy lips, big boobs, wide hips, and huge buns.
…but I also want to wax, put on a wedding dress, corset, and lingerie, suck, swallow, and get fucked from behind.
Sexy Rich Aryans only of course.
No.358959
>>358902
tfw the best woman isnt even biologically a woman
No.358960
>>358902
what a majestic being this creature is
No.360129
>>338016
Once you reject
1) pushing faggotry on society
2) demanding privileges others dont have
Youll find faggotry is compatible with the right wing.
Even FAR right, the fascist Brownshirts were basically a 24/7 twink gay orgy when not on duty hunting jews.