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>>331859

>>332709

Explain how Sargon claimed to be taking Kekistan from the nazis. I think playing into the facts readily available will solidify your credibility.

Tell him that he co-opted the meme for his own purpose, mainly to quash any nazi sympathies or whatever was his line.

This is the trick right here.

>>332709

It's a dogwhistle. Part of various online ops that manifest in the real world. Like Chanology, GamerGate, the Skeptic Movement and now the Liberalists. A lot of the memes carry over as the movement evolves.

>>332712

If he asks for more detail, explain how you didn't want to repeat the mistakes of GLR. Too hard too fast.

Just more subtly and further in.

>>332709

the meme is over. You are now are liberalist and its designed to mock Neoliberalism in hopes to radicalize people toward National Socialism.

>>332712

I guess a little honestly is better to gain trust.

>>332712

Yeah, that's the key, incorporate reality but keep it simple. Maybe say after that that kekistan is not as relevant as of now as the liberalist movement Sargon created, or don't and wait till he keeps asking.

The liberalism movement is pro-individual values, like meritocracy and value no matter what your skin is, but I'm a little worried about Sargon being angry at people for "acting like white niggers" and not acting "how whites are supposed to like".

This has to end with something along the lines of:

"Sargon is actually a nazi who is just really concerned about optics."

>>332718

you should have said to mock the far right for not being radical enough. Oh well

>>332722

Don't worry I'm gonna start shitting on Sargon, propping up Vee and talking about cultural imperialism soon

>>332723

a fictional label for people bigger than the boxes the collectivists want to put them in

>>332723

>racist

Shit anon, should have left that out. Kept the individualist thing in there.

You can still spin it back around though.

What do you want him to walk away with? The idea that Sargon is Sargon, or the idea that Sargon is a closet Nazi?

Listening to the debate right now. Man, Sargon is extremely unpleastant. As soon as he comes in he starts acting like an asshole.

>TFW JF doesn't moderate because he wants to give Sargon enough rope to hang himself

Also, at 1:55, one of the Liberalists insults Andy Warski, calling him dishonorable because he didn't come to the debate.

>>332721

Nothing that blatant, though.

>>332726

I'm planning on saying Carl has deviated from his ways and link the white niggers, maybe I'm holding back too much. I'll amp it up once he responds

>>332728

It has to be something ludicrous or embarassing.

I think it'd be a funny follow up to the whole shooter event, but the embarrassing fax angle is equally as amusing.

>>332730

slow play, anon

>>332730

>white niggers

who exactly?

>>332728

His smugness and patronising tone towards Ryan (who is clearly much more intelligent than Sargon) even as Ryan was absolutely crushing him on really made me rage

>>332729

ABSOLUTELY GENIUS

>>332734

Just footage of him saying that

>>332728

>Also, at 1:55, one of the Liberalists insults Andy Warski, calling him dishonorable because he didn't come to the debate.

Seems he was butthurt because he wanted a larger venue.

Honestly, I think Andy not being there was part of the plan. If JF wanted to goad Sargon onto the stream, it wouldn't be wise to have Andy there. Andy was screaming at Sargon before, and in the "Sargon Won" stream, JF said he didn't like that Andy was scaring Sargon away.

That and a smaller venue means Sargon might be more inclined to hop on, because there'd be less viewers and easier to damage control if he loses.

Now we just need to spread this shit far and wide.

>>332729

I re watched apart of that stream and I'm almost certain that both those random guest where LARPing as liberalist.

>>332740

Muh green text.

>>332737

Good shit anon. Keeping it more grounded. Maybe throw in some auspicious rumors about infidelity? That is in line with the current rumors after all.

>>332743

Yes full smear mode will come whenever I can insert it subtley

>>332744

This shit keeps getting better

>>332742

>sarg'n black friend

didn't that nigger wear a ballerina too too? Can we meme this nigger into the tranny that Sarg'n was flirting with?

>>332744

Jesus christ, Sargon needs to just take a fucking break (and 2600 hours of ARK doesn't count) and regain his fucking composure. He keeps digging himself a deeper hole.

Spencer/Enoch vs Sargoon/Rocking happening inbound

>>332728

JF treats Sargon in a way that will insure he will want to come back. I think even when Sargon ran like a bitch once Enoch came in, he didn't say shit. Then when he was reading the superchats, he made a very absurdist joke about Sargon leaving to tell his audience something, and to tell Sargon another. Dewn't blew up heez spawt, you neeger.

>>332748

Rocking MrE Supports Ethnic nationalism. He wouldn't be on Sargon's side. If anything he will likely moderate and its going to be relaxed and civil.

>>332744

Depends on who Spencer partners up with. His best bet would be JF or JT. If RP picks his partner, it will be a shitshow.

>>332752

It needs to be memed into being Enoch. Sargon is terrified of him

>>332753

Someone with a twiiter needs to forward this to Enoch before some no-name memester inserts themselves.

>>332753

That's what I'm thinking, I tweeted both of them

>>332756

Enoch is too aggressive for his smug chuckling tricks to work on.

tbh I think Alt-Hype's autistic style by itself did a better job of showing up Sargon than Enoch would have, but sargon is actually too dumb to notice that

>>332756

>>332757

I thought that beard-app pic created some absurd caricature, but it's amazing how uncanny it is.

>>332758

This.

>>332757

>>332759

More proof that truth is stranger than fiction, huh?

>>332752

It needs to be Enoch. I think Enoch's brass-tacks style meshes well with Spencer's purple prosey idealism. Plus they often work together so they already have chemistry when partnering in a debate.

>>332756

>>332768

Sargoon and Paul Joseph Wankson are from the same cloning vat confirmed.

>>332756

>>332768

The first time I saw it I thought someone photoshopped Soygoy's head onto Mike from RedLetterMedia

/r/ing the name of that israeli document that talked about how to tone police their usage of words and phrases in america based on polling. It had stuff like how to use "one step at a time, one day at a time" when talking about peace. Can't remember name.

Sage for off topic. Posted in old thread by accident, fuck you flood detection.

I don't think Enoch is good in a drawn out debate. He might have learned from Halsey, but who knows?

Weev? Grindr Greg? One of the Arctos Media guys?

>>332776

Millennial Woes perhaps?

>>332777

He lets Sargon walk all over him

>>332776

The fact that Soygoy fears him is reson enough for me.

>>332777

Despite your trips I'd say he's too nice. Maybe I'm wrong, though, he's been on fire lately.

>>332776

>Weev

Absolutely not. I like his antics, but we don't need someone coming on and screaming about nigger genocide and white sharia in an ethnonationalism debate.

>Grindr Greg

He has a similar yuppie style as Spencer, which I think would make his POV useless. It's just duplicating what you already have there with Spencer. Make it Spencer + Enoch because you have one guy bringing the fancy-sounding philosophical arguments and one guy bringing the fire and shutting Sargon down on his bullshit.

>>332774

Nvm found it, the Luntz report.

>>332776

Braving Ruin please.

>>332780

we are talking a Mr.E stream not a trashy no hold bar Bloodsports. Polite will go much further in that environment and sarg'n being rude will not be tolerated.

>>332779

If he's dumb enough to pick a libertarian and go down the tactical ancap route again, he'll get his puckered asshole destroyed. It'd be easy to just pin the two against each other, since Sargon himself has shat all over libertarians (you don't know your own philosophy!) in the process of trying to argue against white nationalism. His ideas are contradictory to libertarianism, and so you could just get them to in-fight.

>>332776

On second thought, if only we could get Cultured Thug. He probably hates Spencer though and I know he hates ecelebs

>>332780

>The fact that Soygoy fears him is reson enough for me.

Maybe he was not afraid of Enoch, maybe Soygoy was trying to care for the children of another creature

>>332779

I despise Rocking MrE almost as much as Sargon. Ever since he made embed related, I just 絶対許さない!

>>332777

That would just be a retread of the other Spencer/Sargon debate. MW is too unassertive to handle Sargon's bullshit.

>>332783

He's not a good debater. Let him make his videos.

>>332784

Enoch and Spencer would be able to be polite. People only ever really seem to get belligerent in RESPONSE to how Sargon acts. If RockingMrE indeed does a fair job moderating, then he'll mostly be silencing Sargon and muting his ass.

>>332786

Cultured Thug is great but he is a Civic nationalist. I personally like Florian Geyer or Natt Danelaw but nether of them are on good terms with Spencer or very well known.

Any update on the interview anon?

>>332784

Fair enough. That sounds like something I'd like to watch. However, I fear that if Soygoy can't be snarky and unpleasant, he'll just say something about the host not respecting him and leave.

>>332787

2600 hours

>>332789

Enoch doesn't know how to be civil and I don't like the fucking Jew.

>>332786

Cultured Thug would be better for a separate debate entirely. He's not even aligned with white nationalism, and certainly not with liberalism. A third position, so to speak :^).

He'd be better off with a debate/discussion with JF about libertarianism vs fascism.

>>332786

Cultured thug's only use is arguing against democracy and jews. He's a civcuck.

Also fuck off with the repeated captchas 8chan. Fix your shit.

>>332793

That's not really true. I don't even like Enoch as a person, but I'm not going to let that color my perception of his performances. He does just fine. Plus Spencer and him have chemistry. It makes the most sense on multiple levels.

you don't just want to throw two random people who don't even know each other well to be debate partners. It doesn't work like that.

>>332794

It would be interesting to see a talk between JF and him

>>332781

>fire

I haven't seen it. I'm not saying he can't do it, but I want to see Sargon destroyed intellectually. Another intellectual backing up Spencer would be ideal, to bring his loftier ideals down to earth.

It's not up to me.

>>332779

> What Sargon is doing:

Alinsky's Rules for radicals : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rules_for_Radicals :

>3. "Whenever possible go outside the expertise of the enemy." Thinking Alt- Hype knows nothing about the dissolution of the Soviet Union or the reasons for the Civil War.

>4. "Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules." Why are you cucking to me Andrew, you should be gassing Jews.

>5. "Ridicule is man's most potent weapon." You don't know what you are talking about, Google it, You don't understand anything.

>11. "If you push a negative hard and deep enough it will break through into its counterside" You will kill white people, the ethnostate requires violence

>13. "Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it." Spencer is a jew etc etc

I'm sure there's more.

>>332785

It'd be ridiculously easy to get them to in-fight, considering E has made videos that can be construed as along the more sympathetic to White Nationalism. He just doesn't call it Nationalism because he doesn't believe in Nationalism. So I don't know, call it White McNeighbourhoods, Sponsored by Carl's Junior.

>>332788

>Totalitarian

That's ridiculous. But it is of the more collectivist Western/white cultures. Despite what Liberalistisistsists say, they're not the same. Not to mention most of the West now shares these totalitarian 'flaws' of struggle sessions and exclusion.

>Germans are obsessed with controlling Europe

Sure, but to quote my favourite philosopher Nelson Muntz, 'if you hadn't done it, someone else would have, so quit julaying it'.

No response for 45 minutes from the journojew. I hope I didn't fuck up

>>332795

>He's a civcuck

tbh anon he has a deeper philosophy. Its not as shallow as you would like to imagine. Maybe you should play closer attention. Cultured thug is not another level.

on another level*

>>332799

It’s no surprise. I remember when I used to watch him he’d always bring it up

>>332799

Which is why I think he has a plan to deal with Spencer.

>>332779

>2) It's so obvious what Sarcuck is doing here, he's going to try to attack the alt right by getting a more knowledgeable lolberg/ancap as a shield.

This is probably true, but if so it will be a grave mistake.

Sargon's way of arguing is to be hyper-autistic about governance. No one (honest) who understands libertarianism and AnCap-ism would be able to let that fly. By putting an AnCap on his own team, he might be opening up a two-front war.

>>332779

>>332788

Mr.E names the Jew, he's not that bad.

>>332798

Two people who make the same arguments in the same way is redundant. Grindr Greg + Implicit Dick is redundant.

>>332788

Swarthy or not, Anglo is Anglo.

>>332808

Spencer and Enoch would be good if Enoch doesn't throw it again.

>>332799

Sarg'n has become the ultimate sophist.

>>332802

I've been watching him for years. He cucks out on racial fascism because he got fucked over by WN 1.0.

>>332808

I don't rate Enoch. Let Enoch have round 3. Spencer needs a turbosperg on his team.

>>332779

>swarthy white

he looks like a fucking leb

You just know they're going to have surprise guests, too.

>>332812

the funny thing is I was more a race realist libertarian back in 2013. Was one of Sarg'n first subscribers and used to feed him Friedrich Hayek and Hans Hermann Hoppe arguments about individualism and encourage him to read Locke. Back when he only had roughly 1k subscribers. I think I indirectly created this monster :^)

>>332802

I like his cocks, but come on. The only reason he's not WN is because he got seriously disillusioned with the WN1.0 drug-running skinheads he was running with 15 years ago or w/e. He doesn't get that things are different now. White nationalism is no longer about random schizo aryan nation retards like it was in the 90s.

>>332813

I know he cucks on fascism but its because he is too died in the wool with his libertarian perspective. But he is coming around to see the light. Also he looks jewish, so maybe hes is afraid. Boomers have a harder time breaking the conditioning

>>332806

I can see it now. He think's he'll bring on the ancap to tactically deconstruct the white nationalist gov't, not knowing that Enoch and Spencer are former libertarians. And then Sargon will open his mouth and say something that is also completely at odds with libertarianism, and then

>UMM ACKSHUALLY, SARGON…

And then it's infighting and self-undermining from there.

>>332808

Greg and Spencer aren't really the same apart from both speaking in a similar faggy way. Greg is a much better, clearer and concrete debater. Still, if he had a debate against Sargon it would just turn into Sargon sperging about authoritarianism

>>332824

Then I would say have Greg+Enoch.

>>332825

Why the fuck are you Shilling that kike so hard?

>>332822

*dyed in the wool.

I haven't watched his recent shit, is he done just re-uploading shit from his old channel and back to producing new shit?

>>332826

TRSodomite probably. Just tell him to go to the back of the oven and ignore the fagposting.

>>332821

Yes, Sargon came up with the idea to co-opt the alt-right mascot

>>332829

Yeah I'll do that

>>332727

is there any evidence of him wanting to see his mom get gangbanged? i'd love to see this

Pepe is a cartoon character from Matt Forney. It was appropriated by 4chan and came into popular culture via twitter and reddit memes. It's tied to Kekistan due to the ancient Egyptian deity Kek. Often depicted as having a frog head. Memes tie Pepe to Kek in convoluted ways.

>>332821

I don't know man, you can talk him into the esoterics of Pepe, or just tell him you were trying to co-opt him too but it's influence was so strong that caused some people like Carl to take a turn lately for the worse, and steer the conversation towards "DarkSideCarl" and how he believe whites should behave at a certain level and if they do not they're just like niggers, white niggers.

But wait for another anons to vet this, because as I write it, it seems it might be too much too quick and fuck everything. You could just say it's an ironic pepe but some people in the liberalist movement are starting to take it seriously. I frankly don't know

>>332828

>>332826

If Spencer is already set for the debate Enoch is the best partner you're probably going to get even though he was disastrous vs the basic bitch boomer kike and even yesterday didn't add much, he just got Sargoy to leave.

>>332827

oh you are talking about Cultured Thug. I thought you meant Rocking Mr. E. I don't think Thug has new stuff. But his position on Nationalism is not really as basic bitch as a "proposition" nation. He is for the Ethnos, but its also built on a agreed upon Ethos. The common genetics are a byproduct of the higher ideals and standard. He is not a civic nationalist in a modern sense.

>>332830

"Then it backfired hard on him"

"The alt-right got mad at him for using their logo and he later went on streams debating with them about their ideas"

>>332830

>>332833

Explain it as meme culture. An in joke for people connected to online shenanigans.

>>332835

Enoch: The pesticide. Just apply to a livestream and watch as 100% of your soygoon of blackdad problems are solved.

>>332835

>Enoch good for anything

into the bog

>>332800

>>332807

>>332809

If he does indeed name the Jew, he has one redeeming quality however he ends the video I linked by stating: "I fail to see any reason why Germany should be allowed to exist as a nation in any capacity ever again."

Sounds like Der Ewige _ to me.

If Rocking ChairCrypto names the Jew, how can he still blame Germany for shit? Does he believe the Holohoax narrative?

>>332801

I assume they got to him. You know they're watching the threads, right?

>>332837

If journo asks how it backfired

"The alt righters where trolling him in the chat, until he made some very off color remarks"

"He called them N-words. You can probably find a clip of it on youtube"

>>332841

He lives in the UK where that shit is punishable by law and he is a family man and his income is Jewtube.

>>332844

see

>>332837

>>332843

>>332842

Man I really should catch up on the thread before I reply.

>>332848

Already added, hopefully this will began to steer this in the right direction

>>332844

>pepe is a cartoon from Matt Forney

jej but don't spill too many beans. Try to give him something that can lead the conversation back to Sarg'n. I'm dead tiered, so someone else is going to have to think of something clever.

>>332826

because Sargon is scared shitless of him. Did you not see Sargon flip out and go full SHUT IT DOWN as soon as his seth-rogan-tier voice hit the stream?

>>332852

Hopefully I'll be able to think of most of the responses but I could even pretend to care about why Pepe is used as some sort of gay symbol. I'm chomping at the bit to smear Soygoy

>>332853

Oh please, that shit is overrated. Enoch is a kike, if you genuinely cared about Nationalism you wouldn't be shilling that retard blowhard.

>>332841

RockingMrE is a greek cypriot

I don't really get the hate for Enoch. Sure, he got flustered by Halsey in the first half of their debate but otherwise he's always been pretty solid like in the debate vs the Antifa member or yesterday.

>>332845

>He lives in the UK where that shit is punishable by law

Not wanting to exterminate Germany is punishable by law? I'm not asking him to make elaborate videos debunking the Holohoax, but if he were that clued in to the Jews, I can't fathom why he's so anti-German.

>>332856

And I think he's half-Welsh or something. I think describes himself identifying as British foremost, which appears to be code for Der Ewige Anglo.

>>332847

>>332844

>>332830

>>332821

PEOPLE NEED TO COME UP WITH SHIT TO TELL THIS NEWS REPORTER

>>332858

JF does not like people who lie.

>>332859

>implying he wants to exterminate Germany

kill yourself retard.

>>332863

Watch the video I linked and then hang yourself from your microdick.

>>332854

Just point out that Kekistan is an identity for individualists. A joke. Individualists don't need identity or religion. They have a joke nation, Kekistan. A joke religion, Kek/Pepe. It's a gateway for a more individualist movement. The Liberalists. Born out of the online skeptic community which has been a driving force behind OWS, Chanology, GamerGate and many other things.

>>332858

This doesn't make any sense. Why would JF kick him?

It looks like is salty about the thread he made a nine minute video about not mad he is.

https://www.hooktube.com/watch?v=X65lmQnRkyk

>>332869

*Vee

>>332847

Maybe you can steer it into Sargon drama with something like:

"Sorry if it takes a bit for me to answer. I'm talking with people on our server. Our movement is under a bit of stress at the moment since Sargon made Vee leader of the Liberalists instead of him. Drama drama."

?

He should then ask into this further.

>>332872

It’s simple the alt-right and skeptics are fighting over the same audience. This audience accepts race realism, therefore the skeptics had to adapt to try and overcome this.

>>332872

From all the "you're cucking, mayte" I think they hold the same principles as the cuckservatives, but know the alt-right has a killing word for them.

They want to promote the status quo, basic bitch neocohenism, and then call anyone who disagrees with them a cuck if they don't promote some cartoonishly evil ideology.

Horseshoe theory time, it reminds me a lot of when SJWs started saying things like "oh do you need a safe space?" when people were saying their faggotry wasn't wanted.

>>332872

It's incremental backpedaling

first

>race isn't real!

then

>races aren't different enough to matter!

then

>okay, but you can't make any useful general claims based on race realism!

then

>race-based policy is wrong!

then

>well, you'll never get enough people to agree to race-based policy!

then

>you can't do that because it would require violence!

then

>WELL WHAT IF CHINA DECIDES TO INVADE AND A METEOR HITS???

>>332873

good idea

But instead of "Our movement is under a bit of stress at the moment"

say something like "People in our discord are stressing out because of all the debate drama"

then he will ask about the drama and you can talk about the nigger spergout.

>>332840

Who would you suggest to partner up with Spencer for this?

>>332840

Enoch has been doing good, if you like it or not.

>>332872

Yeah, you're on to something. I think they want to take what they feel is significant parts of the Alt-Right and try and fuse it with theirs.

Making their movement into Alt-Right-Ultralite, custom tailored to draw in the people who are fascinated by certain aspects of the Alt-Right/White Nationalism, but who still find other aspects a bit too extreme.

>>332872

Motte and Bailey. They imply they accpet race realism when explicitly challenged on it because they saw waht happened to Kraut. But in fact they never factor it into their theories and deny that it is important when challenged on it.

>>332881

I don't think that they are deluded enoguh to be activley targeting the alt-right audience. It is more about keeping their existing audiences by makign the alt-right appear scary and dangerous (hence Sarogn trying to bait Anglin)

>>332883

Yeah, they're scared of losing viewers and in a broader sense they act as gatekeepers. 'Movements' like theirs have a habit of burning out and becoming fads because they never offer a solution.

>>332883

This. They know damn well they serve as gatekeepers and that the gate has a hole. They're trying to cede ground while plugging the hole in an effort to prevent the rest from coming over to white nationalism.

That's how you get Sargon saying extremely ridiculous shit like "british cultural imperialism" (which would require much more violence and force and authoritarianism than simply letting white people be left alone). They're desperately trying ANYTHING to prevent people from just saying "fuck it, I want a white society"

>>332884

Within a year, max, Sargon will be in the same state as Amazing Banana. A guy that used to be the head of a shitty "internet skeptic movement" and used to get millions of views, who slowly spiraled into obscurity and irrelevance. A guy that's still around but only getting few thousand views. That's Sargon within the next year.

Probably sooner. That's been my prediction ever since the Kraut stuff started. Sargon himself throwing his hat in the ring and continuing to make a fool of himself is accelerating that prediction greatly. It's going to be so funny when Sargoy has to get a real job and/or his wife divorces him because his internet NEETbux are no longer enough to pay for his wife's daughter.

>>332878

Well I think this civ nat vs racial nat is a bit of a false dichotomy. Spencer could go into the bog too. But for the sake of debate I'd rather see Mark Citadel or Adam Wallace but both of them have been driven off the internet.

>>332878

Hell Nick Fuentes would be great, but he's in the same boat as Cultured Thug on this issue, where he values the Ethos over the biological component.

Where is the guy who talked to the journalist? Any updates?

>>332891

>The American Republic was based on civic nationalism

Really gets my kernels popping.

>>332702

Include a pastebin link to the full story next time, dipshit.

>>332891

>civic nationalism is why you have rights

lol no. We have rights because we collectively agree to act as though certain things are unassailable and enforce this agreement through the power of the state.

What a brainlet.

word filter?

Test:

downy

p.ony = downy

>>332893

You can get a much better quality picture of that from the video posted.

Those faggots only wanted a fucking cake!!

>>332817

mistakes into miracles

>>332872

Septics try to purposefully throw off their opposition by lying about supporting one of their positions or lying about sharing a common feature of their opponent (eg "I have a black granddad!")

>>332888

>>332887

Forgot about Fuentes, yeah he'd be great. What happened to Wallace and Citadel? I really enjoyed their cocks.

>>332889

Can you elaborate I only remember “the rationalists” shit that never took off

>>332908

My dad has a tan therefore I’m black

>>332905

They'll also claim they're against the same things as us (mass immigration, islam in our countries, feminism, etc) but that doesn't mean jack fucking shit if you can't offer a solution.

Saying "Well I'm not for mass immigration either!" doesn't mean a damn thing if you cannot offer a solution with any reasonable pathway.

>>332898

China isn't going to allow the Jews in, they know exaclty what they're up to. Yes, I know Mao had contacts with Eastern Euro commie Jews but China knows exactly what Jewish ethnic nepotism leads to, they practice it themselves in other SEA nations. I'm not sure on Putin, he faces a lot of internal opposition by the Jews close to the West. He is no Yeltsin to be sure, seems much closer to the standard Russian autocrat. America is still ZOGbase #1 and a civil war there would mean they would be unable to spread international banking everywhere.

>>332910

Yeah, during the Soygon vs (((Enoch))) debate I was genuinely confused as to what Soygon was arguing for/against since he just seemed to agree with (((Enoch))) but refused to admit it.

>>332912

> Soygon vs (((Enoch))) debate

What debate was that? He bitched out as soon as Seth Rogan showed up.

>>332912

I thought the same thing about the Sargon/Anglin debate. The average normalfag on the street would call Sargon's points just as racist as his opponents', if not worse once you think through the implications of his 'cultural imperialism' bullshit.

>>332903

On argument I have yet to see against the liberalism.

If Liberalist want to impose cultural imperium, then they must violate individual rights in enforcing these cultural norms. That one cannot have both individual rights and cultural homogeneity. To be more precise because the liberal proposition of "public reason" (as explained by John Rawls) is built upon the assumption that every group has different ethical (often religious) standard, therefore a secularism framework is the only proper way these groups can have common ground to settle civil disputes. In other words, due the the schism between Catholics and Protestants religious liberty is reason Liberalism was invented in the first place. This is to say, to enforce cultural imperium would violate a groups right to assemble, the freedom of speech and the freedom of religion. It would also need to be enforced though violence.

…And people will not want to bake the cake, so Sarg'n will eventually have to kill peaceful people to enforce his ideal Civ-Nat State

>>332911

China is still reliant on the petrodollar. I am speculating the Kikes are brokering a way to change that and in this regard they may be able to leverage this to their advantage.

>>332913

>>332914

Sorry, I meant the Anglin one. I thought he did one against (((Enoch))) but maybe I confused him with one of his buttbuddies.

>>332916

China knows how the game is played though, they would probably rather let half their population starve than letting the Jews loose. What we have in the West is rather unique due to the Anglo elites' attitude and the massive ressource richness of the USA. Previously, if the Jews were hollowing out a civilization they would get kicked out or the neighbours would gobble it up, like Poland. America fell ass backwards into unlimited ressources and its elite took up the banner of spreading (((liberal democracy))) and international banking. So let it burn.

>>332917

Okay, gotcha. Yes, Sargon was completely incoherent in the Anglin debate. He agreed on all basic premises and also on the use of violent force, as per his "british cultural imperialism" shit. He's just like pavlov's dog and has a trained pain response whenever someone tries to factor race into the equation.

that's fundamentally the problem with all these fags, whether they're skeptics or libertarians or civic nationalists or christian traditionalists like that Distributist guy, or whoever. They're fine with judging people on all these different proxies for race, but god forbid we just stop beating around the fucking bush and look at race and factor it in. Then the mental gymnastics start.

Morning Kumite on. Bearing is banned, and bloodsports is being blamed by JH, Mundane shill and CultofDusty of causing school shootings.

>>332918

but that is why I am saying its a Russia/China game. Putin is friend with the Zionist despite the popular propaganda and it would explain the clear Dunantist/Aut-Kike/Jew connection. Its like Trump, wolf whistle to far right wing, but really be another Israel puppet. I know its far fetched and unlikely but something doesn't add up with the current metapolitics.

>>332920

>Morning Kumite

dose anyone really like this shit?

>>332920

God I'm getting sick of these parasites who came along with the Kraut drama. The only good figure to come out of this is JF and the rest are just brainlet-tier hanger-ons trying to drive this shit in the ground by regurgitating it so much

>>332921

No idea, not from youtube though, I caught them mid conversation, maybe he was joking or talking about some discord server, I don't know.

>>332922

>>332923

JH deleted the twitt after a while, MundaneShill and CultofDusty apparently kept going

>>332924

I have it on the background, they mostly just ramble.

>>332925

agreed. JF is the only thing good to come from the Kraut Drama.

>>332928

He reminds me of DSP.

>>332928

Is he pretending to cry or something? What the fuck did you just make me watch?

>>332930

He's a complete pussy. Kumite laughed their arses off at that clip.

>>332924

Dugin is really not that popular within Russia and Russia never had the Power Projection to move beyond Warsaw unless it had friendly jumpoff points (like Austria vs Prussia, Prussia vs Napoleon) - for example in World War 1 they got annihilated when they tried, same in the Polish-Soviet war right after, right now they're stuck in Eastern Ukraine. World War 2 was an exception thanks to all those trucks being built by white Americans, so there you go, no tears shed about sectarian violence in the USA or them being browned.

What I think may happen is that Russia will regain Ukraine or at least parts of it and may re-absorb some Baltic states when the USA finally comes crashing down but a) that's inevitable with it being increasingly multicultural and b) I'm willing to pay that price to get the rest of Europe back.

>>332930

>>332931

Clip.

>>332915

Don't be naive. You have rights because they need you to ultimately foot the bill for their social welfare pyramid scheme. Hellfire equipped Reaper drones don't give a rat's ass about your AR-15.

>>332936

Has anyone found his dad yet? I don't think they want to find out their child pissed away his medical degree and instead decided to be a vore-enthusiast NEET

>>332936

>blaming 'the alt-right' for the actions of an anonymous image board

>>332928

What the fuck Matt

>>332938

>poke fun

>he responds

>poke fun

>he responds even more dramatically

>rinse and repeat

>REEE MOMMY THOSE AMORAL SHIT-POSTERS KEEP POKING FUN

So this is your brain on liberalisistiisticism.

>>332940

He and Sargoy truly have become the new Anita Sarkeesian and Zoey Quinn

>>332928

>CumstainFatt

I hated that retard before gamergate even stared. I found out about him when he reported pre-exodus chan's war on Anita's "Tropes vs Women" Kikestarter in 2012. Before Burgers and fries he was crying apologizing to Anita for being a misogynist. The deleted that video as soon as he posted the Eron Gjoni story. I wish I had saved the video where he was crying to Anita to forgive him because he had "anger issues". I also recall an old rumor he was a jizzmopper in an adult movie theater.

>>332932

Yes but, if Russia can secure the Ruble as the new as the new petrodollar, which is one of many reasons why they are invested in Syria, then they may be able to replace the U.S. as the world reserve currency. Dugin is close to Putin and that is all that matters.

>>332943

Is that his brother and/or sister? Do we know if he has siblings?

>>332941

At least those cunts got to the UN.These two are even more irrelevant. That's probably why they're so salty. The only thing they accomplished was allowing their enemies to make it to the world stage of politics. They turn everything they touch to shit.

>>332946

>let me tell you what your board is about and what you find fun after I spent 20 minutes lurking because one of my lackies linked me this thread

wew

>Vee and his fans actually think he won the debate

>>332954

I'm looking through Lili's friends now

>>332942

Look, Putin is currently flooding his country with steppe people and other Asians (imo not because of Zionism but because those people are easier to rule). Most of their population growth is coming from those people. They're in the same demographic situation as France right now and he outright kills credible opposition. I just don't see them as a credible threat.

>>332957

I'd smack my cock in her face.

>>332945

I think they're most salty over the fact it took them 4 fucking years to finally realize that they were nothing more than a gateway for white nationalism. And now that they realize what they've been accidentally serving as, they're trying to close the gates and be gatekeepers, but they're hoist by their own petards.

>>332947

peak dunning kruger. These retards don't understand that rationality is a fucking construct. It's a spook. It's how we try to convince ourselves that we operate on a sense of definite rules and principles. They don't realize that we operate on instincts and emotions and then rationalize them post-hoc. Trying to come up with deonotological rulesets like the liberals do is trying to shove the square peg through the round hole.

>>332949

look at the chin/jawline and nose. I guarantee this girl is related to him. It's his sister. The other guy from the previous photo is possibly her boyfriend or another sibling.

SEND HER THE VORE

>>332727

A bit behind on the latest stream and thread at the moment.

Is there any Vee bingo suggestions yet? Even if he won't replace Sargon vs Spencer there should be one by now.

>romania

>horseshoe theory

>sending porn to mother

>bababababa

>cummies

Another suggestion is to make a larger Sargon bingo with a few squares reserved for when Vee (just mark with the avatar) jumps in.

>>332963

Unfortunately she's not tagged in the photos and Lili has 1,400 friends. It's gonna take me a while to look. I wanna send her a cum tribute

>>332965

things*

Why does vee bring up horseshoe theory in every single one of his comments?

>>332961

When this is all finally over and the feature length film is produced, I say it should be named The dunning-kruger effect.

>>332968

Because it’s the only argument he’s got

>>332947

Or him saying that we should make threads for Tricky Dick for making a joke about intergalactic ethnostates and taking what he said about social hierarchy at face by thinking it's literal feudalism. Or how Anglin's tazing comments was just some quick thing he thought up because Sargon was tactical ancapping him and asking him "WHAT WOULD YOU DO IF YOU WERE CLIMBING A MOUNTAIN IN YOUR ETHNOSTATE AND YOUR ICEPICK BROKE ENDROO???" tier-questions which Andrew couldn't call out because he was a shit debater.

Sometimes you gotta wonder whether he's purposely being disingenuous or he's just retarded.

>>332965

>Distributist is great, but I think he quit Youtube. Got sick of throwing pearls to swine.

Looked at his twitter and it seems he's just taking time off social media for lent.

I don't have anything against the guy, and I respect a lot of what he says. It's just a shame he has this massive blindspot when it comes to race. Like he doesn't even realize he's been classicly-conditioned to get a pain response when the notion of taking race into consideration is used. If we use an exclusionary principle that correlated 99.99% with being whites-only, then that's fine with him. But god forbid we just fucking make it simple and go by race.

>>332966

Godspeed, anon.

>>332965

>send Cum tribute of Vee's mom's or her dog Sclifositul to Vee

**I've been on NoFap for 3 and half weeks, anon.

It would probably be like emptying a giant can of pearl white paint over them. I wanna stay the course though.**

>>332965

Well in my opinion China definitely wants to rule over SEA, they see it as their manifest destiny. They're also really Jew wise and have a habit of massacring entire ethnic groups who stand in their way, so if the Jews move in there they might get shaken down and then disposed of but nothing else. Russia has this divide and struggle between Putin (standard czarist autocrat) and globalist ZOG, he has to tread very carefully but seems to be winning. In any case, I think the Russian population is going to lose no matter what and I don't want to be ruled by Russia, but my country has a decent military performance against them if no Anglo-Kikes are involved.

A lot of the inconsistencies and buffoonery of the 'alt-right' are down to them being incompetent, there's some standouts like Kevin MacDonald and Joyce but overall the movement pales intellectually even compared to the Paleocons from 2 decades ago.

Why are Romanians so fucking ugly? Big jaws, eyes set like 6 inches apart, protruding caveman forehead. Jesus fuck it's all I see on these facebook friendlists

>>332981

PURE ROMAN LINEAGE!

>>332977

>passive aggressive bitching about trolls

this is the most bovine thing that you can do

>>332989

That'd probably be a sister, thinking about it more

>>332985

He seriously downplays race though. In the JF stream he seriously said that a catholic black nation would be better off than a secular white nation after a few decades. This is just plain insane. He also seems to think that ancestry/race can't be a spiritual concept binding society together (what is ancestor whorship). His issue seems to be that he believes humans need some universalistic goal for the whole world to build a functioning society.

His critique of the Alt-Right series has real substance though.

>>332985

> He doesn't reject race, to assume he dose is foolish, he just doesn't think its the highest value.

That's the problem though. He doesn't "reject" race, but he refuses to consider any policy based on race. Even something as simple as a white-only immigration policy, a something America and most other nations had until only very recently. I hate to make this comparison, but it's almost like the Liberalists+ who say "okay race is real and racial differences are there, but we shouldn't take them into consideration"

He also seems to have this idea in his mind that we think race is ALL that matters. Not so. The fact is that cultural/spiritual rejuvination can always occur. But once a demographic change happens, it's much MUCH harder to correct it. Race is one element, but it's an IMPORTANT element, almost like the canvas. You can have all the different paints you want, but without that canvas to paint on, they're useless.

Race IS a blindspot for him.

also his video series on why white nationalism will fail makes a lot of basic mistakes and leaps of logic in its premise that bring the whole thing down. Been a while since I saw it, but basically he doesn't take into consideration the shift in the overton window or how quickly attitudes can change when push comes to shove.

>>332928

He'll be the first to be thrown out of the ethnostate

>>332984

Not only does he have the misfortune to be born a jew, the poor guy is not even good at being one.

>>332985

>thanks for you synopsis and Kevin MacDonald is good. His work on secularizing the JQ is helpful but also troubles me because it obfuscates the spiritual component. I don't like when people call his work comprehensive but that is not his fault.

I can see your point of view but keep in mind, we live in a post-Christian world (and neither the current pope nor all the denominations being deep in the refugee rackets is going to help). E Michael Jones did some work criticizing Judaism and usury from the Christian PoV iirc but I'm not sure what his views on race are.

There's a lot of pieces to pick up and I don't think it's going be peaceful.

>>332992

Isn't he a Statistician or Data Analysis? I always wondered how he can be so committed to committing the base rate fallacy when it comes to race and policy. It isn't that he isn't aware of it but he still wants to engage in it for some reason.

>>332994

Cucks go into the chamber too.

>>332985

Didn't the NRx movement get co-opted by by a bunch of technofetishist and transhumanist types?

>>333005

The couple in the group photo is unrelated to the Stavri family. The woman is Raluca Desa and the man Rafael Salamanca, some mestizo. The woman in the other pic could still be his sister, I'm gonna take a break for a bit here

>>333014

And he is completely right.

>>333009

>This is why I say the Civ-Nat vs Race-Nat is a bit of a false dichotomy, the truth is in the middle

You're right, in that civnat by itself is like a painting with no canvas. Race-Nat is a baseline requirement for Civ-Nat. I'd also say it's a baseline for basically everything. That's why it's focused on so much.

The fundamental flaw is this guys like Distributist seem to have this idea that being a white nationalist means the ONLY thing you care about is whiteness. Obviously that's not the case. I wouldn't want to live in all-white communist poland. But the point is that communist poland can always become non-communist, whereas a place like brazil can never stop being a shitskin miscegenation pit.

Basically, it all amounts to this strawman that white nationalist = white fetishist

>>333014

>it's a liberalist meme episode

keep em coming

Does anybody know where the Milleniyules 2017 with Sargon and Vee have gone?

They aren't available anymore.

>>332916

Sargon is only banking on alt-right faggots being unable to say that they do actually want to gas the kikes and hang niggers, this all "debate" shit is nonesense.

>>333026

why are you posting pics of yourself getting trolled on cuckchan?

>>333026

>I was just pretending to be retarded

>>333030

post the one with sargon as a lemon wedge and the one with sargon egg yolks

I require of a balanced daily sargoy mi|k and other sargoy-based products.

>>333014

>>333030

Hi, Sargon.

>>333014

They still think TDS articles are 100% serious?

>>333014

>being this mad

>>333018

>white nationalist ONLY care about is whiteness

the Alt-Right is not white nationalism & they do ONLY care about is whiteness. The big tent is defined by that only principle and many of the leaders are openly hostile to religion. Your characterization of him is uncharitable and its born from a misunderstanding. He concedes race realism, that is not even an issue he debates. Whiteness also bastardizes real ethnicities by ignoring their particular distinctions and spiritual character and merging them into a superstructure. Somone is not just white, there is more to their ethnicity then just that board category. And lastly for unfortunately many Whiteness and the aesthetic of National Socialism is nothing more than a perverted fetish. The movement for some people is just an edgy brand of homoerotic singles dating club.

>>333040

ZOG starts browbeating kids with holohoax propaganda by age 8 in public schools. How much media is targeted toward kids?

I see nothing wrong with DS marketing towards teens. They're more malleable and don't need to be deprogrammed from the ZOG bullshit as much. That's why Gen Zyklon is turning out much better than millennials.

>>333045

so who told you about 8chan?

>>333042

> the Alt-Right is not white nationalism & they do ONLY care about is whiteness.

Wrong. It's just the most important focal point at this moment. As I explained before, we can work on other things after establishing the canvas - the minimum requirement for all else. You think we just want a white nation and then we'll be cool with whatever degeneracy happens after that? No, of course not. You're mistaking not making it the first goal to mean that there are no further goals beyond the immediate one.

> Whiteness also bastardizes real ethnicities by ignoring their particular distinctions and spiritual character and merging them into a superstructure.

1) There is a superstructure. To act like a swede and a german are so different as a swede and a somali is just disingenuous. European ethnicites are all inherently linked. Call it whatever you like. Call it christendom. Call it europe. Call it the white race

2) Nobody is telling european nations to give up their ethnic heritage or anything of the sort

3) Whiteness in America IS an ethnicity. We're mixed up. I'm Polish, German, and Irish. Hardly anyone is a single ethnicity or has any major ties back to the old country unless they're recent immigrants. There are of course differences between different white americans, but we are all WHITE AMERICANS and that's our ethnicity.

>>333048

Reminder that horseshoe theory is an israeli zionist tactic.

>>333044

white nationalism means ethnic nationalism in white countries. It means bulgaria is bulgarian nationalist. It means sweden is swedish nationalist. It means poland is polish nationalist. And in America, it means white nationalist.

>>333048

That's the same argument furries had against people laughing at them back when cringe culture was big several years ago

>>333045

So you admit it's a tactic that works?

>>333056

>alt-white

Why do you consider this to be derogatory? I'm actually curious to know.

>>332977

>new kids

HELLO FELLOW OLD KIDS

>>332744

RockingMrE is an alright guy, I don't mind him.

>>332815

He's greek I think

>>333061

>he does it for free

Looks like Vee's brought in a lot of newfags. Anyways, does someone have resources for learning photoshop for nefarious shit? I'd like to start playing around with it but don't know where to start.

>>333056

>Actually I can prove Horeshoe theory using Shitstain.

>the left doesn't like shitstain

>the right doesn't like shitstain

>they both agree, only a retarded gypsy likes shistain, therefore he's the only good person

Absolutely retarded

>>333061

Ok Soygoy, cool it down. Go care for somebody else's kid or pet your gypsy slave. You're not fooling anyone. if you're anon fishing for (you)s by pretending to be the stepfather, you're doing great, the retardation level is indistinguishable

>>332928

>he actually thinks jewgle skynet cares about him

>>333053

>white nationalism means ethnic nationalism in white countries

no it doesn't

>>333071

Yes it fucking does. Do you honestly think people advocating white nationalism are telling europeans to all give up their individual ethnicities and cultures and BLANDA UPP into a homogenized euromutt continent?

Stop being autistic.

>>333074

I think white nationalism is more applicable to the American context. In Europe it's just Nationalism.

>>333078

>concept of a shared european identity is american

wew, imagine falling for sargonian memes this hard

>>333080

He posted about these threads on his twitter and made a video about it as well I believe featuring a thread from yesterday.

He's full blown assmad.

>>333080

He periodically links these threads when he's feeling really butthurt and he did so yesterday, that's when the low-effort shitposting increases.

>>333078

The problem is in the modern jewed society, the concept of a nation has been corrupted into thinking it just means "citizenry". So if you just say you're a nationalist, that could very well just mean you're a cuck like Sargon who wants "British Nationalism" with a bunch of nigerians and pakis singing "God Save The Queen"

You have to specify blood. Call it white nationalist. Call it ethnonationalist. Call it just nationalist. Call it whatever you like. We're all talking about the same thing.

It also plays into this global D&C tactic that ZOG does of trying to pin white countries against each other. We can all work together toward the interest of our RACE, as a whole. Because to deny the superstructure of white race is completely silly.

>>333080

didn't you know that /cow/ is the alt-right pedo recruiting ground anon? :^)

>>333081

well it is. I'm from europe and nationalism is not a Europe-wide thing. It's confined to nation states and the eyhnicities that up those states, eg french, german, etc.

America is a combination of all those ethnicities in one nation, alongside other races, so it becomes a more general white nationalism.

>>333088

Of course, sieg heil fellow Nadzee. We will destroy the liberalists!

>>333084

yeah you're right, i get it.

>>333093

WHOM

>>333093

Maybe capitulate was the word, I just want him to crack and make some crazy rant videos directed towards /cow/. I've been having tons of fun laughing at this freak

>>333098

now this is butthurt

>>333101

He's too pigheaded to capitulate.

He's too self-unaware to stop sperging out when we make fun of him

He'll continue to sperg out and make rants at /cow/ (as he has several times before). This will continue until Stepfather Sargon reels him him, Stepfather Sargon capitulates/seppukus/hides, or Vee goes mentally insane and gets locked up in an asylum.

>>333099

He's still growing. He only lost half of his subscriber growth, which isn't good for him either.

>>333098

>I-I'm not an lolcow, you are!

>>332872

Why it's almost like none of these goons actually have any convictions and are just saying what keeps them comfortable.