/cow/ - Lolcows

>>307440

>Mr Metokur has been trying to fight Mundanematt for at least a week

>MM is too chickenshit to ever respond

>So scared of metokur that he changed the names of his channels to Matt Jarbo just to avoid him

Apparently it's getting to the point where this shit is costing him subs too, wonder how long Matt is gonna bitch out.

I did not make a new thread because it doesn't look like there is anything new coming. Everybody was just waiting for Jim's video to close the whole thing up.

>>307446

>I did not make a new thread because it doesn't look like there is anything new coming.

Ant-man v Sperg fucker: Dawn of autism looks amazing what the fuck are you talking about.

>>307448

Not to mention, Sargon looks like he's about to come apart at the seems after the debate with Spencer. The first video he made after that was downvoted to hell, which is remarkable considering how rabid his fans usually are.

>>307460

*seams

>>307467

>He is not becoming kraut just because he shat the bed this occasion

and he's going to shit the bed, again, soon. They announced a round 2 with spencer and the soyfather, because he didn't learn his lesson the first time when his pet vee and another dude had to come into the stream to cover for his ass.

>>307469

You can bet that Sargon will use the same Alinsky tactics to move the goal post.

>>307481

I guess this is a good a time as any to ask. The fuck has sargon done to make him a /cow/? I never really paid attention to the "skeptic community" before this shitstorm with salt and tea, so I don't know much about him past him shitting on feminists.

>>307515

>I guess this is a good a time as any to ask. The fuck has sargon done to make him a /cow/?

Got banned from twitter for sending alt-righters Gay interracial porn.

>>307515

Isn’t he raising someone else’s kid

>>307440

>Warski goes full 1488

What did he do?

>>307526

Probably this

>>307515

Getting blown the fuck out by a CIAnigger butt pirate is a good way to start.

>>307443

mundanefat would go on if he got shekels for it

>>307547

>What's Sargon's deal? Why does he have this sway and why does he push people around?

Don Sargoné of the Sargoné family is the king of the skeptic mafia, you cross him, and you might end up being… "deplatformed".

You know what the most hilarious thing in all this is? You have these faggots act like they are tough shit, preparing for an intellectual war, trying to gather the most elite of the YouTube science community, and in the end they fail miserably and fall apart. But not because of their opponents, but because of their own sheer stupidity to get anything done. It's like watching a bunch of nerds get into their LARPing gear to fuck up the local gang and then they all end up in the hospital because they tripped over their shoelaces and fell down the stairs.

>>307537

Where did a stepdaughter come from? I remember that during GamerGate (or some time after?) he had a newborn son.

>>307547

I'm pretty sure Sargon had more involvement with the Kraut stuff behind the scenes than he's admitted.

>>307555

Good analogy.

>>307555

He is raising his wife's daughter.

>>307547

>What's Sargon's deal? Why does he have this sway and why does he push people around?

He has power over the skeptic community, by being in control of most the audience, and by the fact that people give him authority and thus power. He can make or break small channels to some extent.

>>307557

>He can make or break small channels to some extent

If they are part of the Youtube Skeptic community. The community of the people he has shat on during Gamergays isn't affected by him at all. Quiet the contrary; Whenever he is mentioned in one of their weekly streams, he is the punchline.

>>307481

>Problem is Sargon is more clever and manipulative and less emotionally driven than Kraut, so it's going to be harder for him to escalate to that level of spergery

There's a reason why Vee is always around.

>>307481

>>307561

>Problem is Sargon is more clever and manipulative and less emotionally driven than Kraut, so it's going to be harder for him to escalate to that level of spergery

Sargon is more intelligent and better at manipulation than Kraut, but he is quite easy to rile up. This clip might have been posted in the last thread, but it's a really good example of Sargon spergin out.

He has also thrown his glove into the ring by now, so I don't see how he could back out now without looking like a retard.

>>307561

Indeed. Sargon is "more clever and manipulative and less emotionally driven than" than most skeptics. However that does not imply that he is some sort of genius, or even halfway there.

>>307440

>"brexit stole my girlfriend" thunderfoot

WUT? explain plox

>>307563

Another example of him being retarded.

>>307555

>Where did a stepdaughter come from? I remember that during GamerGate (or some time after?) he had a newborn son.

Maybe he married the chick while she was pregnant

It keeps getting cuckier

>>307557

The vast majority of the skepticfags bent over to the dick of feminism long ago with shit like atheism plus and rationalwiki

Guys like sargon and thunderfoot are the ones who got tired of that bullshit and broke off, but they are a minority

>>307567

>>307555

>>307557

I think he said that's not true in the stream he did with JF. I don't know if it's true, though.

>>307569

It's true for the meme value of it.

>>307571

Right wing SJW spotted. You're just jellous that while your race is dying out (which is a good thing), the Sceptics are doing better than ever. In fact, the Sceptics managed to fully fund Kilroy, that shows how good they're doing!

Sargon had a wife's daughter before he got his own son

>>307440

>"brexit stole my girlfriend" thunderfoot

No, that was Robocuck not Thunderf00t.

>>307565

Robin "Robocuck" Gething broke up with his girlfriend because she was pro-brexit.

>>307561

To cover his ass I presume. Vee has also a Gamergate themed brand floating around. I think he was there behind Sargon since shortly after KoP has been ousted by Mundane Matt and Jim has left. Jim was also the first one to point out, how people (YT fedoras in particular) were lining their pockets. I am not talking troll operations like Gamergays buying itself a sea lion or alternative outlets running ads and Patreons. I am talking about people jumping into Gamergate to gain an audience and then sucking the life blood out of it. Or do you still remember that Gehting's the Open House was very Gamergate related? The jolly crew behind GGrevolt tried to get a similar format starting and there still evidence floating around, that they have done the same shit the anti SJW Skeptics are doing on Youtube on all Gamergate related boards and on Rizon. In other words we are dealing with spastics who play online Illuminati to keep the Money flowing to them and nobody else on both sides of that medal. Friendly reminder that GGrevolt has been pushed into irrelevancy thanks to a little doxing scandal.

What does that mean for us? That the entertaining antics of the cartel around the the Cod Father could be soon over. Fedoras are already a joke and there seems to be a very early stage of a Christian Awakening going on.

Also fuck me for talking about one of the most bullshit topics on the Internet.

>>307585

>>307481

>>307440

Still waiting for a exploration on why the skeptic community on youtube have such poor personal hygiene. I haven’t seen a video or photo of thunderfoot that doesn’t look greasy.

>>307581

Is she dropped him for that they weren't going to stay together long

>>307555

Even though these trips of truth should make me think otherwise, I don't think that it's purely due to their own stupidity, the minor pushback they got from the alt-right was the catalyst to their massively increased spergery and eventual downfall. After the whole Rage After Storm debacle it was obvious that the Septics' politics at their core aren't at all different from the SJWs they were attacking but not in a MUH HORSESHOE way that brainlets think is an actual way of comparing anything political. They're all postmodern leftists, but they aren't complete spergs about it like SJWs are, kinda what "moderate" muslims are to extremist muslims. This called for a purge of anyone who can be considered making Skeptic community-like cocks on Youtube who is even slightly right of center politically and to keep anyone from defecting to it, they wanted to discredit various right-wing arguments and beliefs by destroying anyone who does alt-right-like cocks on Youtube. Kraut was the first on the frontlines for this, but his first video which quickly got demolished not only by AltHype who is alt-right proper, but by JF who not only wasn't part of the alt-right on Youtube at the time, but was also a credentialed scientist. It only took 2 videos, one made by AltHype and one made by JF for the Septics to completely lose their shit, escalate the "war" to DEFCON 1 and start tripping over their own shoelaces because they soon found out that they couldn't defeat either of them through arguments, the reason for that was that just like JF said there was no way they'd find actual scientists who would defend their major arguments because they were wrong.

The saddest part is the losers who buy into these idiots and fund both their channels and shady shit like Jihadimama's Shillroy event.

Sure the "Skeptics" are huffing their own farts but those who buy into it are huffing them second hand in a vain attempt to feel smart and interesting.

>>307600

Anyone who spends any money on the Internet is a fucking idiot. This includes the people who give Jim money to make videos.

>>307563

Yeah well of course you can make him sperg out when you attack his ego as 12000 people are watching, but that's not what's going to bring him down

What we need to turn over are his supporters

Kraut descended into a spiral of insanity and vengeance complex, losing sight of reason until not even his die hard fans could stand by him, and believe me he had many

That's not the case with Sargon, he didn't do enough damage to turn off his fanboys, even after he makes a video exposing CRP's foxdick Farm thread after he told Kraut not to do it because it would have been "SJW tactics" they still rationalize any doubt they might have on his integrity

We need to go deeper

>>307585

>What does that mean for us?

Also, because there's so much money involved, people will fight to the death. Sargon and the like do this for a living. Every twitch on their popularity graph has a real, material effect on them.

>>307619

Wow a group of individuals coming together and forming a group! The liberalists!

>b-baka I'm not a liberal, I'm a LIBERALIST

>>307630

>Sargon wants to create a fucking organization and label for his nu group

Of for fucks sake. This is gonna end in failure, isn't it?

>>307638

It will make them easier to target at least. They never learn

>>307630

Remember goyim, it's only collectivism if whites do it.

>>307630

quick rundown? I'm not giving this fag any (You)s. Isn't "liberalist" a redundant term?

>>307641

Sargon was enlightened on the fact that some people look up to him and he has to behave himself better. He says we're sitting around shitting his pants and doing nothing like SJWs take over institutions so he said we need to form a group of "like-minded individualists". He calls this the "liberalists". I don't know if this means IRL activism or just more youtube videos. Sounds pretty lulzy either way

>>307642

I want to see him sperging at Spencer again. I heard they'd arranged a rematch, hope it's true.

>>307643

I'd rather see him go up against Kike Enoch because Spencer's too polite due to his CIA training.

>>307643

>rematch

I sure hope so. Spencer is the shit-tier of the "alt-right" and he got destroyed. Really says alot of the Soyfather

>>307642

Sounds like a lot of bullshit. Especially since the "skeptic community" is ALREADY A COLLECTIVE that implicitly enforces a distinct set of beliefs and drives people out if they question the orthodoxy set up.

IMO sounds like he's just trying find a way to weasel out of the mess he's made. He knows that he's screwed after this past debate with fabulous richard, because

>1) if he disengages from debating white nationalists, he looks like a little bitch who admits defeat and runs away

>2) if he continues engaging, he'll continue to make himself look like a fool and dig himself a deeper hole

So this sounds like he's trying to do Option #1 while trying to make it seem like he's "totally not just running away"

>>307645

Agreed. I really don't like Spencer as any sort of "frontman" because he just talks in purple prose and goes on and on taking an hour to say what anyone else could say in a few minutes. He'll do entire speeches where nobody even knows what the fuck he just said unless you're already part of the in-group.

I have a lot of problems with his more left-leaning politics as well, but overall I'd say he did really good in this debate (which again, really just speaks to how shit the Stepfather is). But he definitely has this problem where he makes it too easy for people to completely miss his point and take it out of context. For example, doing a terrible job explaining what he meant by aristocracy or warrior class, and how these things naturally arise out of the hierarchy of society. But lots of retards like Sargon take this as him saying he literally wants a return to feudal serfdom with hard-line noble and serf classes.

>>307648

>For example, doing a terrible job explaining what he meant by aristocracy or warrior class, and how these things naturally arise out of the hierarchy of society. But lots of retards like Sargon take this as him saying he literally wants a return to feudal serfdom with hard-line noble and serf classes.

That was peak autism, honestly.

>hierarchy exists; its part of human nature. Even today we live in a hierarchy with a self-styled aristocracy! Just look at the bushes or Rothschild, or look at the—

<WHAT THE HELL RICHARD ARE YOU HEARING YOURSELF? I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU WOULD ADVOCATE FOR LITERAL FEUDALISM. WOULD YOU WANT TO BE A SERF IN YOUR ETHNOSTATE, RICHARD?

>>307615

Exactly. Funny, isn't it? It would go unheeded in the gamergays general, but I gladly point it out here how this problem has affected virtually anyone who is guilty of sucking out the life out of gamergate; Rogue One has peddled a shit a game one GGrevolt cares about. The Devil's advocate was also part of the doxing channel. Mundane Matt has exploited KoP's autism to get him out of the movement. Sargon's this week in stupid justifies feminism. Thunderf00t is using the same clickbaiting techniques for years. Revolt attempted to run a clone of Gething's open House. Thidran was a major trader of TF2 ingame items. It would be a shame if something would have happened to gaming.

For all these people it was more (for YT fedoras) or less (halfchan newfags like Thidran) about money, control or fame. Everyone else who was involved was busy doing other shit.

>>>/kopruluradio/

All episodes of the show have been deleted.

https://archive.is/5JIdO

https://archive.is/3jTEY

>>307622

>>>/rooshvforums/

These guys are talking about pretty much the same things when it comes to the theory that someone wants to have a civil war between Altright and Antifa.

>>307648

>Quick analysis: Sargon's a socialist pretending to be a libertarian, Spencer's a racist pretending to be an identitarian. Both of them are smug as fuck, and of middling intelligence. Strawman strawman strawman.

Bishop Kane

Oh boy, its gonna be Kekistan 2.0: now with more IRL individualist chimp outs.

>>307652

Anything we can do to fuck with them? Reminder that kekistan was a deliberate PSYOP to ruin pepe/kek for us by associating these things with maximum cringe. I wonder if we can hit them back and do the same thing with their labels, whether skeptic or liberalist or whatever

>>307653

The Stepkid community

>>307653

Just debate them more and meme on them and they'll crumble on their own probably

Speaking of Catholics applying their brand of Assburger on the situation;

http://forge-and-anvil.com/2018/01/09/the-alt-right-is-fractured-aurini-podcast/

Experience from Gamergate tells me, that this going to go ape shit and explode.

Someone needs to ask Sargon and the Stepkids what the difference between Liberalist and Liberal is.

>>307656

noice

>>307651

>Exactly. Funny, isn't it? It would go unheeded in the gamergays general, but I gladly point it out here how this problem has affected virtually anyone who is guilty of sucking out the life out of gamergate; Rogue One has peddled a shit a game one GGrevolt cares about. The Devil's advocate was also part of the doxing channel. Mundane Matt has exploited KoP's autism to get him out of the movement. Sargon's this week in stupid justifies feminism. Thunderf00t is using the same clickbaiting techniques for years. Revolt attempted to run a clone of Gething's open House. Thidran was a major trader of TF2 ingame items. It would be a shame if something would have happened to gaming.

This is also ironic, since during gamergate alot of these fuckers would label people actually invested in the cause shills.

>>307662

They're all shekel-grubbing opportunists. They don't actually give a fuck about anything but their own paychecks. Sargon's opposition to white nationalism, for example, comes from the fact that he doesn't like the competition springing up in the youtube political space, and he wants a new target to attack because people don't give a fuck about laughing at blue-haired dyke #10492004 anymore.

>>307659

Liberalist™ is unregistered intellectual property of Soygoy of Mossad, used to rope children and idiots into a Ponzi scheme, while Liberal is a political position tracing its roots back to the Enlightenment. Also known as, "we're the real liberals, you're all just regressives!" to the Liberalist™ community.

>>307664

euphoric

>>307674

To be fair, the idea of individualism-vs-collectivism is a false dichotomy, and there's nothing at all wrong with individualists working collectively. But the irony of this is that Sargoy is a retarded "radical individualist" who thinks groups are inherently invalid.

The irony is that white nationalism IS a group of individualists, because whites are the only ones who create and maintain societies that value individual freedom.

>>307671

He might speak with his true voice so that nobody will recognize him

Sargon can't even use the cuck meme appropriately or without draining it of humor. I feel like he's just a means of taking strength from the right and turning it into cringe. All he does is co-opt and destroy, not unlike a marxist

>>307679

He actually thought that a cuckold is someone whose offspring gets raised by someone else.

>>307680

Wait, you don't want to raise your wife's daughter? What a cuck!

>>307671

>>307676

I might recognize him with the Austrian accent.

>>307675

Sargon has his head way up his ass and I have no time to explain now why. Will do tomorrow.

>>307515

It started way back when he made a video claiming that the Rotherham rape gangs had nothing to do with race or religion, and that the British are to blame for it. He then got PLEASE STOP TROLLING BRITBONG, HIS PARENTS ARE BEATING HIM AND HE WON'T STOP SCREAMING AT US IN DISCORD by a couple people (Andrew Anglin and Libertarian Realist being the examples I recall) and sperged out pretty hard for a couple days then made follow-up videos targeting the Alt-right to counter signal against those evil nazis. It then escalated to the point where we're at now, with other faggots in the skeptic community having a vendetta ever since, and once their new little pet called "Rage after storm" came to the defense of race realism the entire Kraut shit happened and now their little skeptic community is crumbling because they've exposed themselves as emotional petty faggots.

>>307689

>claiming that the Rotherham rape gangs had nothing to do with race or religion

When the hell was this?

Jim and Louis Le Vau live

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6YSdUQUwRE&feature=

>>307630

so much that sargon was accused of lying about that he confirmed in this video.

Then

>I am not the leader. I don't give orders to others

>The skeptics are doing great, WE funded kilroy and it's going ahead

>labels and identity groups are bad

>Sjws are defeated, they aren't doing anything anymore. Ignore anything you see. The altright is the new enemy we have to crush

>I did great in the debate and I owned spencer. My hugbox post-livestream confirmed it

Now

>I am, and have always been, a leader that others look up to, and here's what everyone will do from this point on

>Others gave us the title of skeptics to defame us. We never identified as that.

>We need an identifying group. I declare our new label to be the liberalists

>Guys, the sjws were fucking over people all along. We have to keep fighting them. I know I just said the altright was the new enemy, more evil than the sjws, but just ignore them now that I lost a debate to one. I'm still the spearhead on the sjws front

>Someone told me I did poorly in the spencer debate, and even though before I accused everyone who said that of being an altright troll in my comments, let me reinforce that this person is one of my subscribers and that's why I'm listening to him and agreeing. But don't forget that the altright isn't important now, so it doesn't matter that I did poorly.

>>307705

Watch this video, a sargonite is arguing with Jim right now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6YSdUQUwRE&feature=

Holy shit this is turning into a shitshow already. Soygoy is sperging in the comments

>>307709

I can't keep up with the comments, what's he sperging about?

I find this stream hilarious

>lol let me tell you what your political beliefs are!

>ree you don't like SJWs that means you're an individual liberalist like MEEEEEEE

>>307710

He's calling Jim obtuse and stupid and that he doesn't take politics as "seriously" as he does

JIM VS SARGON INCOMING

>>307713

Jim has now joined in on the Internet Bloodsports of CY+3 also known as Modern Day.

SARGON VERSUS JIM

>STOP HUFFING FARTS

>WE NEED YOU TO SAVE THE WEST SARGON

>>307702

I like Louis but it's a shame that he desperately wants to be part of the Don's inner circle.

Jim needs to tweet out the stream link

>conservatism is a variant of liberalism

lel

Sargon sounds so fucking smug.

Oh god i just tuned in and Jim is already doing the raping.

>>307720

yes, he is serious. Soyboy of mossad is going to come down hard.

>HURR I JUST WANNA PLAY VIDYA BUT PEOPLE WANT ME TO BE LEADER

>>307722

>>307720

>I want to hold Liberalist conferences until its okay to say "fuck white people"

Imagine being so contrarian and having such disdain for your own race that you seriously advocate for this.

I've been out of the loop for a while and just been listening to Jim vs Sargon, is Sargon going to start a political party or something? He is close to 40 and did absolutely nothing with his life but will have lots of funding from his fans, should be a great dumpster fire to watch.

Conservatism is relative, Soygoy. It's your fault you country is a liberal hellhole

>>307727

see >>307630

>just turn in

>Sargon already says "I don't care"

Jesus Christ

>passing around about me

Holy fuck. This is getting intense.

>>307729

NO NO NO

YOU DO NOT EVEN UNDERSTAND PHILOSOPHY

If anything this stream will serve as an excellent litmus test for Louis since it'll make it known just how much he's willing to suck Carl's dick, impartial moderator position not withstanding.

This is getting tense

>are you even trying

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

He's mad now. Confirmed Jim got to him.

NERVOUS LAUGHING AND PILPUL INTENSIFIES

KILL HIM JIM

>drop the ego

You first, Stepfather

GAMERGATE WOUNDS OPEN AGAIN

What a journey this has all been. I started with listening to JF and now the Soyfather is going down in flames.

>calls jim a coward

HOLY SHIT

IT'S COMING FULL CIRCLE!!!

>sargon calling jim a coward

The projection is getting a little strong.

>YOU'RE A COWARD

>YOU RAN AWAY

>YOU OPENED A PATREON

Here we go

>"you're a coward" says the Don who sends his lapdogs on every streams critical of him

>implying Jim has an ego after he has deleted dozens of accounts, never shown his face and resisted getting money for years

>>307743

Everything he's saying is pure projection

>you're a liberalist like me!

>drop the ego!

>you're afraid!

I can't breathe after that "My Son" line.

This is coming from the same guy who said he didn't care about the future when talking with Millenial Woes.

>"""""my""""" son

>tfw Sargon talks about his son and the chat spams "My wife's son"

How did we go from vibrating nipple clamps to this?

Is Sargon gonna start bragging about how jim ran away if he leaves first?

This stream in it's entirety:

<and you know I'm right, Jim.

>No I think your wrong and what your doing is retarded.

<Your right it is retarded and I hate to do it but…

5 minutes later

<and you know I'm right, Jim.

>No I think your wrong and what your doing is retarded.

<Your right it is retarded and I hate to do it but…

Repeat infinitum

How long until Sargon's bedtime (aka after hours hugbox stream)

>>307760

yes, obviously they are going to do so.

>MISTER METHODICAL

>only we can stop the SJWs!

>btw the SJWs aren't just a symptom

>btw jews have nothing to do with it

>btw my individualist liberalism is totally going to win against them

top fucking kek, this is great. I can't wait for the clipshow version of this. This guy is insane.

I can't believe sargoy could get any more lame or gay, but he has.

>Do you even know what an individualist is?

Definition

One that asserts individuality by independence of thought and action

>Gets peer pressured into starting a political movement.

<BUT YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT INDIVIDUALIST MEANS!!!

>>307767

This is his Amazing Banana moment.

>think jim is gonna leave

>he keeps the battle going

Nigga is unstoppable!

>I care about what happens to my son!

Didn't he say on a Millennial Woes stream that he doesn't care about the future after he dies?

>Conservative aren't doing anything!

Wouldn't you consider Trump, the alt right and all that as something? It's certainly been more effective than Sargoy and his anti-feminist, radical centerist group.

>Metokur meet-up

cringe

>>307774

I'm starting to think that Carl is extremely manipulative.

What is he trying to achieve with this confrontation? A lot of people are going to hate him even more for going against Jim.

>I WANT TO CHANGE THE FUTURE FOR MY KID

>I DON'T CARE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN I DIE

>>307766

Hey Goy, George Soros was a nazi don't you know?

link to stream please

>sargon fighting in the streets

kek

>>307780

It's almost over though

>>307775

Yeah, but that was ages ago. Just look at how much his opinion changes in less than a month >>307705

>>307777

I'm sure this was more of a move to support Louis more than anything. See all those $5-10 shitposts the retards are posting in the superchat? It's to scratch his back.

>Sargon I don't care of Akkad is acting like Jim is the nihilist here and that he doesnt care for society, as opposed to Jim just making fun of him

>>307777

checked, it's definitely manipulative. Look at how they keep bringing up stuff like rotherham and tranny kid indoctrination, and try to say that the skeptics are the ONLY ONES who are able to stop this.

>if you are an MRA you should act like a man

Imagine getting B T F O this hard

>Why didn't you message me when you were doing the kraut videos

>You seek to make a video of those who have slighted me. Yet you do not come to the stepfather beforehand. You need to learn which family controls these parts of youtube

>>307790

It's Atheism+ all over again

Jim calling Sargon out for spreading the foxdickfarms post of coach boomerpill's dox after disciplining Kraut for collecting it

>I don't care if my constantly repeated real name is mentioned and I show my face in public constantly, therefore it's not wrong to do it to you when you're actively trying to remain unknown

>If I'm unaffected, it's fine

That was one hell of a stream

already soyfather is saying he is wrong and he is right kek

I would love to know what Sargon's exact definition of collective is and how it's not synonymous with group.

>Sargoy makes Louis Le Vaux send jim a message to get Jim in a livestream.

>Jim has no idea who Louis Le Vaux is, Louis Le Vaux is a Kraut Clone, and is getting his "skeptic wings" by baiting Jim into a livestream,

>Jim notices Sargoy is in the comments oddly, as soon as he enters the livestream.

>Jim figures out that Sargoy is behind this, because Jim has no idea who Louis Le Vaux is. Sargoy joins, then explains that he is hurt that jim and everyone is making fun of him, and his skeptic lackeys, and then the real motivation comes out, that Sargoy has had people watching jim and creating dox, and to tell Jim that he might have some information on him that he doesn't want to go public, and that Jim may want to stop. You cant make this shit up.

maybe I'm reaching

>>307799

Jim might meme them

>>307799

>and then the real motivation comes out, that Sargoy has had people watching jim and creating dox, and to tell Jim that he might have some information on him that he doesn't want to go public, and that Jim may want to stop

Is Sargon some kind of sociopath? Sounds like he's threatening Jim for messing with him.

fucking GOLD

based jim making the internet fun again

>>307799

possible. I missed the start of the stream. Did they mention Jim dox?

>>307799

>Louis Le Vaux is a Kraut Clone

He is more like Vee. He desperately wants Sargon's approval for some reason.

>>307806

I'm rewatching, I just remember the Stepfather asking Jim if he'd be upset if his real name got out toward the end of the stream.

>>307798

collectivism = working together towards things I don't like

individualism = working together towards things I do like

LIKE OMG HAVE YOU EVEN READ THOMAS PAINE??? ARE YOU SERIOUS RIGHT NOW???

>>307808

if he's threatening Jim, it's over for him. The Soyfather will sleep with the fishes.

>>307811

You know it's a problem if the leader proclaims live to an audience that he doesn't want to lead and would rather play vidya in his basement. Top charisma and leadership abilities

>>307799

The best part is how Sargon claims he's not the leader of the Skeptic Mafia, and meanwhile proves the meme right by his constant use of soldiers to do his dirty work for him, to act as emissaries for him, etc. It's the same shit whether it's Kraut or Vee or this Louis guy.

>>307806

>>307808

No, it was the other way around; Jim asked the Soyfather to define when revealing personal info is/isn't doxing - and cited himself as example:

>And is it doxing if the person in question is obfuscating their name purposefully, like me? I know it may be out there somewhere, but I never broadcasted it deliberately. Is getting my name doxing?

Sargon pussyfooted around but Jim was essentially asking where the line is regarding dox, and whether or not it implies malicious intent if you're going around scavenging the corners of the internet for someone's personal information - even if said information is out there, but not readily available.

>>307812

Jim was right when he said that it wouldn't work unless Sargon actually had his heart set on it.

>>307815

If the leader's not a fanatic about the cause it's dead in the water

>>307812

No goy, ONLY SARGON is the one who can save Le West from tranny child hormone therapy! Ignore those pesky jews tho, because the real problem is blue-haired feminists! Now join my collective of radical individualists and kiss the ring of Don Sargone, Stepfather of the Liberalists.

>>307817

>JIM BETRAYED US FOUR YEARS AGO BY LEAVING GAMERGATE. HE'S A COWARD WHO LOVES TO RUN AWAY FROM DIVINELY-APPOINTED RESPONSIBILITY

pure kino

You know Sargon is fucked when he starts laughing and mumbling around.

The idea of Sargon trying to dox jim is slightly concerning, though I feel like it would blow up in Sargon's face more than anything.

>edited for the first time in a decade today

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalist

>>307822

Who changed it tho?

>>307822

The old version is more true though.

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Liberalist&oldid=44557728

>>307823

The user who edited no longer / doesn't exist anymore. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Liberalist&action=history

>>307792

Indeed it is. It won't last though, Skepticism+ is gonna crumble in a year. it's only a matter of time until there's a turbo SJW among them or The Soyfather props up another Kraut.

>>307812

I'm pretty sure he only said that to not appear egotistical and sound "relatable".

>how do you do fellow kekistanis? I'm not in it for my ego or for the shekels, I'm just like you! donate to my patreon if you wanna save the West

>>307821

>doxing an internet troll because he dares to disagree with you

how liberalist of him

>>307818

>Anyone who criticizes you is your enemy

Is he being sarcastic? I can't tell with him because of awkwardly he jokes.

>>307819

Stream was great. All this autistic skeptic shit pouring out on Jim, who is just a normal person who laughs at shit on the internet. They can't understand that and all crave to be him.

I didn't consider the threatening angle of it, but I think Jim definitely got what was going on.

I get a strong feeling that Sargon really wants personal information on Jim. The part where they both were trying to indoctrinate him into being some IRL celebrity was really creepy. And at the end when Sargon was dodging the definition of doxxxxing was really slimy. I can't wait for someone to finally leak private conversations he has during his gay little crusade against feminism.

>open this thread

>100+ new posts

Wait what happened?

>>307814

Sargon, Vee, and his ilk are doing shit-tier pilpul on this issue. They know damn well that the problem is using info to threaten/smear people, especially if you can't win an argument against them and go for underhanded tactics instead. Yet they keep trying to push this whole "hurr it doesn't count if it's public" thing. By that logic, anything not involving the hacking of bank accounts and email doesn't count.

Sargon himself called what Kraut was doing underhanded "SJW tactics". Yet when he does it, it's justified? He acts like a two-faced kike.

>>307834

it really is creepy, they idolize him and praise him as if he's meant to go "oh, cool now I'll stop making fun of your cringy kekistani memes"

>>307835

Sargon and Jim went at each other

>>307835

This happened. >>307782

>>307831

I can't tell either, that's the fun.

>>307835

The Stepfather launched the skeptic+ movement

At this moment, I am euphoric.

>>307828

>using 'collectivist' or 'individualist' as pejoratives or identities, rather than descriptions

How fucking autistic are these people?

>>307839

Beautiful

http://archive.is/1pN6c

>>307838

Youtube fame must be a fucking cult. The way Sargon described meeting fans was like it was some kind of drug. I don't think he was able to perceive how creepy and unattractive he was making himself.

>>307846

Topkek, some butthurt fag already reverted it

>>307839

kek

>>307849

Sargon fucking wishes he was near good enough to be one of the background characters in Jojo, let alone Dio

>>307845

And; "it's ok to use the dox of a guy that was posted on an obscure forum because he made fun of me".

>>307830

Typical

>>307834

>I get a strong feeling that Sargon really wants personal information on Jim.

Yeah, the "why don't you come have a drink with us?" thing really activated my almonds.

>>307849

>Soygoy of Mossad as Dio

>Not as Kenny G

My autism kept acting up whenever Jim kept conflating groupthink with having a collectivist ontology. It would have been sufficient for him to point out that an individualist activist movement would be totally counterproductive by merit of activism and advocacy never working without deprival of bread and circuses–it's that kind of agitation that got leftists into academia in the first place. Instead, Jim gave them a little space to attack him over definitions, so I don't think this was a total slam dunk. There wasn't quite enough autism to overshadow it.

>>307857

>>307857

I think he had the same gut reaction most of us had to that faggy Kekistan shit, but the whole idea of an 'individualist collective' is retarded and Sargon is clearly trying to make shekels out of this now that the 'Skeptics' are a joke.

>>307857

I think Jim was more interested in listening to Sargon be a sperg. So was I.

What does Sargon mean by individualist? I always thought it was someone who thought an individual was valued more than the well-being of the group, but I'm not sure if that's how he uses it like that or not

>>307857

>arguing over definitions

at this point you're just giving the soyfather more credit than he deserves.

Remember when Sargon did the video "Re: Dramatic Faggotry"?

At the start he goes

>Jim, you faggot

It sounds like saying the word 'faggot' is alien to him. Like it hurts him to say it.

Sargon was always a queerboy.

>>307860

>>307859

Right, but I don't think Jim was unable to get in his craw with the kind of instigation he was employing. It seemed more like he was trying to get a Dean Esmay reaction instead of sticking solely to the points regarding the Liberalist shit that would have been impossible to make a coherent argument against, e.g. cringeyness and counter-productiveness.

>>307862

He means 'come to events and give him money'.

>>307863

No, I think Jim was doing exactly the correct thing when he was forcing Sargon to concede that his activism was pretty gay. It's just that the way Jim tried to point out the irony was too focused on overarching concepts rather than the actual groupthink-y behavior that is typical of Sargon's fans. And I think this is why Louis sperged out on Jim in the first place: he mistook Jim's remarks on the fans acting like a collective for an indictment on the philosophical concept of individualism.

>>307837

Saved just for the Jim portion tbh

>>307868

Fuck no, Sargon has always painted the veneer of enlightenment philosophy over a deep-seated belief in social democracy stemming from a sort of crypto-anglo consequentialsim, and that's giving him the benefit of the doubt that he even has a consistent system of beliefs.

>>307874

Sounds like something straight out of Tumblr.

>>307870

>"no name youtuber"

I guess he didn't like the banter.

>>307868

lol no, he's the exact opposite. Sargon is a brainlet stuck in some bastardized Platonic Theory of Forms mindset. He thinks that things like "rights" are true things that exist completely independent of any state or other form of power to enforce said rights.

I'm by no means a leftypol faggot, but pretty much everything Sargon holds dear like his individualism, rights, etc are all fucking SPOOKS and he refuses to understand that none of the things he wants exist outside the context of a white nation to bestow them and protect them.

Why does anyone act surprised by Sargon in the first place? He's always called himself a liberal. Liberals always engage in the same commie-tactics.

He's always had a "side", he's just a subversive little kike trying to appear sympathetic to the right for more shekels

>>307878

Is the "white nation" a thing-in-itself as Will is? Otherwise, it's just another abstraction creating more abstractions. Not that there's anything inherently wrong with an abstraction, it just seems odd to me that you would counter his with your own.

>>307880

You give him way too much credit.

Guys guys guys, can we stop infighting and attack the real enemy? Nazis giving indie games good scores?

>>307887

>forget tigers he couldn't ride a singapura

lel

>>307887

pseud is the best word for sargon. he really showed that with spencer. he's used to dealing with NEETs who haven't read shit.

>>307887

De Maistre went after the continental rationalists far more directly than empiricists like Locke.

>>307894

99% of what Sargon said during this whole thing was projection

>>307887

>evola is the sperg

perfect

https://twitter.com/NP_Podcast/status/950931294460014594

>>307894

He's still hung up over some indirect slight Jim said about him being a shekel hound FOUR YEARS AGO. The year of the StepFather is going to be fucking lulzy.

Who is this slut?

>>307903

A nobody thot unless she's a trout kraut fan

there is so much contradictory statements in his description.

>>307903

Jenny the horse

>>307901

Who ever made that is brilliant

>>307908

what is it with that guy? he's always right there inserting himself into the latest drama.

>>307911

I think that is his masterplan to be in the drama any drama no matter what kind.

>>307911

Some foxdick Farms guy, I think.

>>307878

Sargon will never realize the concepts he holds so dear are the product of the Aryan alone. Cultural-bearers like niggers and arabs can't maintain Aryan culturals alone. The white man remains the prometheus of the human race

>>307803

>Is Sargon some kind of sociopath?

absolutely yes, the guy is a fucking autistic weirdo and a total manchild, watch how he behaves and talks on Joe Rogan's podcast, he fucking weirds Joe out with his childish behaviour despite being a 40 year old man

>>307915

This post perfectly highlights why identitarians like Spencer have the potential to be just as cringey as Sargon has been.

>>307911

>>307908

hes a faggot "4d chess puppeteer"

>>307918

>implying it's wrong

>>307918

thats why this situation is great. you get skepticism+ retards, and the aut-right retards.

im loving how skepticism+ are starting to think jim is a crypto-nazi, and are pathetically trying to reel him back in.

>>307920

Only thing is wrong is Spencer

>>307923

I'm still not convinced he's NOT CIA. Anyone who goes to an event organized by him is a retard

>>307918

On the one hand, as a sperg Fascist that spends most of his time on /pol/, I really wish antifa (or anyone, really) would blow Spencers brains out so that we can get the elitist brainlet out of the way and maintain leaderless resistance for at least a few years longer until direct political action and organization becomes necessary. But on the other hand, it would be fucking hilarious to watch the "Liberalists" and the Alt-Right go to war.

>>307924

>Implying he's CIA

>Not JIDF

>>307926

>implying both of those aren't under the larger umbrella of ZOG

>>307927

Without thinking about the validity its assertions, take a second to reread the post I responded to and what it might have in common with the way Sargon articulates his beliefs.

>>307929

Post was pretty fucking cringe, although what it said wasn't untrue.

Oh I get it

>>307925

My hope is that the conflict gets covered by media exploding van style. That would be the perfect bookend to this whole thing.

>>307932

Anyone who gets interviewed needs to refer to Sargon as the leader of the terrorist group Skepticism Plus and say that his lieutenant is Grand Dragon Andy 'Race' Warski.

>>307929

Would your view of the post's cocks change if I had worded it less retardedly?

>>307928

fair point

I like how Jim called Sargon out for laughing when he's flustered. I fucking hate that shit. Just be a human and react normally. Stop play-acting for us.

Also how clean is Jim's balls now? Sargon was cleaning them pretty well even after he was done yelling at Jim for not falling in line with his collective of individualists that have a party ideology.

>>307919

I think that his octodimensional master plan is just gaining exposure and leeching off some patreonbux.

>>307934

On a personal level, I'd still disagree with you, but I'd probably have just left it at that.

>>307938

Well sargoy has made his entire career playing feminists' videos while pausing inbetween every other line to insert his own forced laughter, so it's to be expected.

Guys like him think that life works like a sitcom laught track, and that if they insert forced laughter it'll get people to laugh with them and win the argument.

>>307940

>thinking non-whites share, care about, or will sustain white cultural values

Okay you're officially way more of a faggot than Aryan 1488 LARPer fag

>>307940

Fair enough, this thread's not about that anyway

>>307928

Isn't CRP pals with Spencer? Didn't CRP bump into Sargon at a camera store and have lunch with him right before the Kraut stuff blew up? CRP even has a Russian connection.

What the fuck is going on? Did the boomer clap man pull some Monarch post-hypnotic suggestion shit on Sargon, or what? He made a video telling Sargon what to do and the madman actually did it. He positioned himself as a leader.

>>307945

He offered to have lunch with him but the Soyfather declined.

>>307943

Never stated that as my view. As a matter of fact, I would claim that a group of white people do not owe a reason to form a whites-only community in the name of such a goal.

>>307938

Sargon and especially Louis are getting annoyed by people mocking them.

Ever notice that mocking someone and memeing them fucks them up harder than actually arguing with them?

Skepticism+. It's going to be the big clusterfuck this year. Bigger than Kraut.

>>307944

True, sorry for my spergery. I just want to see some fresh material, even it's derived from the same old views.

>>307945

Sargon hungers for power. His ego is growing and he finally gave in. All the connections are kinda weird though.

>Spencer knows Gonzalo Lira

>Spencer's married to Russian-born Dugin translator

>Lira had a connection with Russia Today

>Gonzalo pops out of nowhere and infilitrates skeptics, brings them all onto his streams

>meets Sargon IRL, tells him to "whip the skeptics into line"

Is Gonzalo the mastermind behind this all?

>>307953

CRP could be a former KGB agent, robot, or even a mutant.

>>307938

The biggest problem is that Sargon can't see past his own nose. We know how personally he took Jim's abandonment of GG. He projects his own sense of duty onto Jim, who has consistently stated that he'll do something for however long it holds his interest, like any normal person.

>>307953

>Is Gonzalo the mastermind behind this all?

…or he knows the patterns, the way certain people act. He knew that Kraut was heading to a bad direction.

>>307953

If CRP is running some 24 hour operation to dismantle some centrist spergs on YouTube, I'd be impressed and alarmed that cameras can hold so much power.

>>307956

Let's pray he's right about the Soyfather. He's certainly getting more erratic by the day. His attack dogs are out in full force, he's trying to become Führer of Liberalism+ and sperging in streams almost weekly.

TUMBLING DOWN

>>307958

I think CRP is on the level. In this video, he continues to expound a post-Keynesian economic position despite having severed ties with Steve Keen, so I don't see why he wouldn't be completely sincere about everything else.

>all those vague non-answers Sargon gave when Jim asked him what it was he actually believed

Reminds me of this.

>>307958

If I remember correctly, CRP also said that Sargon made a mistake with the Vidcon controversy.

>>307961

Los Chicago Boys también tienen el helicóptero.

>>307799

At 36:50, is Jim referring to something that happened during Gamergate, or did he let slip that he uses a wheelchair?

>>307966

>At 36:50, is Jim referring to something that happened during Gamergate, or did he let slip that he uses a wheelchair?

Probably talking about our 'dear leader' hot wheels, but i wouldn't rule it out.

>>307966

The wheelchair thing happened to a crippled girl during GG, I think she has a youtube channel.

>>307969

Oh, ok. That's to bad, I wanted to meme Jim into a wheelchair like Hotwheels.

>>307970

*too

>>307966

He's referring to Shannon Gibbs. I followed gamergate pretty closely, but I still have no idea who she was. Someone who would just show up on livestreams. She is disabled and ran a donation pool to buy herself one of those chairs that run up the wall alongside stairs. People actually donated. That's what he means by people using gg to get money

>>307953

It's really amazing how Sargon leaks his private chats from CRP where CRP tells him he should do XYZ, then Sargon points at these things as sleazy, and then a week later he's literally doing CRP's advice beat for beat.

CRP, as much of a lolcow he is himself, is a fucking mastermind of manipulation.

>>307962

I can't stand when people say vague shit like "I believe in individual freedom!"

Holy fucking shit, literally everyone will say this about their own ideas. Communists think their system offers the most freedom because they are unshackled from slave labor conditions. SJWs will say progressivism offers the most freedom because silencing racist straight white men allows oppressed niggers and fags to flourish and have personal freedom. Libertarians will say that open markets and the NAP will result in personal freedom because only state laws count, etc etc etc.

It's the most fart-huffing way of putting things. This idea of "freedom" is so fucking vague it doesn't mean jack fucking shit.

>>307975

Operation ChileanFlankSteak at work.

>>307972

still makes videos with her tits out in the thumbnail. shameful and disgusting

Sargon is going to need his own threads from now on to fit his ego.

>>307977

I'm a fascistist, which is an advocate of classical fascism. I believe in individual freedom too. Vaguely.

>>307977

Sargon doesn't even hold a consistent conception of freedoms or rights. He just mix and matches what he likes in a quasi-consequentialist manner.

>>307987

>a sizeable portion of my audience demanded that i create this account.

>Oh no! I really didn't want the money, but everyone kept telling me they wanted to give me money, so what else could I do besides open this account! I was practically forced into it! I really didn't want it, honest.

God damn I hate these fucking faggots.

>>307945

>>307953

>Coach Boomerpill

>mastermind

No. Doesn't take a mastermind to deliberately insert himself into drama and see what almost everyone else was already seeing: a man in his late thirties controlling a shitty YT community behind the scenes, craving for actual power.

The Soyfather didn't become the official Leader™ before because he knew the Skeptics didn't look up to him because of his arguments. He only has the numbers (subscribers) and keeps everyone's shekels safe by not saying anything controversial and quietly enforcing others to not say anything that might hurt the community.

Since the fencesitting act is getting stale, he came out with the "genius" idea to create his own political movement. Now, when he fails miserably in a debate, he can say that X thing is not aligned with the Ideals of the Liberalists© .

Like someone already pointed out, Sargoy can't see past his own nose.

>>307984

same reason why jacks cooking has sponsorship shit. the bar is set incredibly low

>>307948

>Sargon and especially Louis are getting annoyed by people mocking them.

I would especially say Louis. If you look at the comments section on the stream you'll see that he suppressed the mocking to a degree by giving creator likes to comments to make them the first to appear. This is very uncharacteristic of him having watched him for a while. As far as I can tell none were deleted, but that's just because archive.is doesn't save the comment section of videos now so I have nothing to compare it to.

>>307992

I think it ain't sargon's buttbuddy

>>307994

New question, then: Why do so many mentally ill fuckos add the DWI glasses to their avatars?

>>307992

They fall under the misguided belief that they make them look like smug and unflappable cool kids. It's no different from their dreaded SJW rivals wearing problem glasses because they think it makes them look intelligent.

>>307915

>Aryan alone

Pretty sure some of them have something to do with the semites though

>>307995

Because they want you to deal with their insanity.

>>307989

>I was told to come onto this stream

>I was told every single thing you do on twitter

>I was told to ebeg for shekels tee hee~

>I was told to start my own cult of personality

>I was told to lead a mass suicide

Are they pathologically incapable of taking any sort of responsibility for their own actions?

>3/4 of the way towards the bump limit

>on a single day

>on one of the slowest boards here

This isn't going to end soon isn't it?

>>308002

every time the skeptics open their mouths there's something new to talk about, and they keep wanting to do streams and argue how they're right. Sargon vs Spencer round 2 will at least fill another thread

>>307821

I'd kick in $50 for a bounty and ask /baph/ to fuck up Sargon really bad. Though I suspect they might do it for free.

>>308006

I think he might getting into it all by himself by becoming such a juicy target

>>308008

Fucking top bantz.

Finally finished watching that stream. Fucking hell Soygoon is going to be a massive lolcow this year isn't he?

>>308010

His gypsy cumslut is already doing damage control

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8M5-Jc4ERk

>>308016

Oh god, the best lolcow in the septic community.

>>308016

I'm to the point where I can't stand that faggots voice.

>>307953

>CoachBoomerPill is secretly a CIA nigger who changes camera angles every 2 seconds in order to program septics into self-destruction

That doesn't sound as crazy as I first thought it would be

Holy fucking shit the level of semantics in this video!

>>308016

tl;dw

Let me guess: 5 minutes of mild criticism, 20 minutes of semantics.

>>308021

Yep. I tuned out at like 10-15 minutes cause the first 10 was just straight out semantics.

>>308021

Pretty much. He also slapped on a convenient title on it that can serve as "proof" that he isn't the Stepfather dickrider he's made out to be

>>307999

Apparently that's individualism.

>>308021

>>308016

dont want to be that guy but i did a giant undergrad project tied to my major on collectivism/individualism according to hofstede's cultural dimensions. (the shit he tried to explain in the first 10 minutes)

he sounds like an idiot who just went to a website and read definitions, then tried to fill the rest with his own retard ramblings. he barely has a grasp on what the differences between either thought process., which i find incredibly funny because he keeps saying "people don't understand the political theory". he doesnt understand it himself. its not even a political theory., jesus.

i highly doubt this vore specialist is a lawyer/doctor.

>>308029

>he sounds like an idiot who just went to a website and read definitions…

That's because it is exactly what he did. That's how the Septics community works.

>>308029

i had to stop when he starting talking about "collectivist corporations". seriously what the fuck. people pay money to hear this dudes opinion? it literally says "SOCIETIES" right there on the video when hes talking about his head canon.

reminds me of how destiny lies about reading studies

>>308029

But is it collectivist to form an organization that demands the individual subordinate their will to it and act in accordance to the will of the organization, risking punitive measures if they don't? In all honesty, can we be sure that Laurence Fishburne isn't white? Checkmate, collectivist.

>>307642

This reminds of Stirner's voluntary egoist association.

>>307648

>But lots of retards like Sargon take this as him saying he literally wants a return to feudal serfdom with hard-line noble and serf classes.

But Sargon is still fundamentally retarded. Even if Spencer were talking about an aristocracy, that does not imply feudalism. Rome had its aristocrats and the Middle East has its aristocrats, and neither had feudalism. Then there's America, the two ruling families of the century, the Bushes and the Clintons, can trace their lineage back to Revolutionary times, with a Bush being a member of the Revolutionary army and a Clinton being in correspondence with Jefferson.

Sage for doublepost.

So basically the radical individualists who don’t need no collective are forming a group to take on the alt-right? Ironic

We are the Liberalist

Listen to our arguments with an open mind, but don't criticize us

We will add your authoritarian and collectivist distinctiveness to our group of individualists

Your collective will adapt to become individuals like us

Resistance is fascist

>>307986

>fascistist

Surely a fascistist is someome who is prejudiced against fascists?

Mouthy Buddha made a video.

>>307720

Now that I am on lunch break I can tell you what the hell Sargon's problem is. Frist of the bat, Sargon is in reality a Marxist. This is how he actually behaves. Have you forgotten that the guy lived on the dole for years, because he thought himself to be too good for punching a time stamp every morning?

Second. Social being in a group is more or less the norm for human beings. Sure there have always been people who thrived in solitude who are also very alien to everyone else and usually had weird and intense professions like hermit monk, spy, inventor or author. The vast majority is normally in groups. Now how is the group supposed to conduct themselves? One general answer is the group will act relatively aggressive towards the outside world to guard the scarce resources they had. To pull that off, children are raised to be awesome as possible people who are fit for competition in and outside the group. The other extreme of the spectrum is avoiding conflicts and seeking resource gluts. The individual member doesn't matter that much. In fact, members of the own group in need are usually ignored while fleeing or seeking novelty (read resource gluts). Also the outgroup no matter how hostile is usually sucked up to to make migration is easier and guarantee survival when a alien group has taken over the territory. Do you now see what kind of problems the Stepfather could have with r/K theory? If that heuristic spreads further and enters the popular mind despite glowinthedark Spencer, Sargon's shtick wouldn't work anymore. Anyone could put his lolbert posture into extreme scrutiny by just taking a look at his family life. Last, that individual humans are of value and should be free is actually Christian social teaching. It just doesn't work if there is no God who demands that. That's the entire crux.

tl;dr

r/K theory makes it impossible for Sargon to pretend to be a Libertarian and confirms Christianity's premise about people.

>>308046

It's becoming more and more apparent to me that the "skeptics" literally think they're the only ones who think things through. They're so up their own ass that they think if you don't arrive at the same conclusions as them, you mustn't be thinking. If you don't agree with them you're just a sheep, maaan.

>>308051

Especially based on the way they were desperately trying to get jim to join le individualism+ collective by claiming that only their brand of radical individualism and centrism will ever be able to stand up to "muh SJWs"

I find this absolutely fascinating. Imagine a group of fence-sitters gathering IRL and screaming "I DON'T HAVE A STRONG OPINION ON THIS ONE WAY OR ANOTHER". Yup, that's going to save civilization. All the babies will be turned into trannies unless we push for liberalism.

>>308054

>only their brand of radical individualism and centrism will ever be able to stand up to "muh SJWs"

I don't think they understand how the SJWs got to the places they are today.

It took them 30+ years to infiltrate the academic system, the education, the media and now Hollywood. They won't go away because "We, the Individualists+ have organized an IRL Youtube Hangout with ourselves".

Also going "out there" will have no impact if none of the platforms welcome them.

>>308054

They don't even stand against SJWs very effectively. Their disagreement with the progressive left seems to be, "I agree, but can we please be nicer about this?"

It makes me wonder if they're naive about their tactics or purposefully playing poorly. Skeptics and their autistic high horse about house rules. It's like playing Street Fighter, and one side refuses to use projectiles because "it's not fair". That's not going to stop the other guy from spamming your shit in.

If they were really the only ones standing up to SJWs, the future is a man lecturing his wife's transsexual muslim son on Locke.

>>308056

>They don't even stand against SJWs very effectively. Their disagreement with the progressive left seems to be, "I agree, but can we please be nicer about this?"

Exactly my same exact assessment

Saying "FUCK WHITE PEOPLE" is bad, but multiculturalism and diversity are perfectly fine in white nations

Saying "FUCK MEN" is bad, but feminism and sexual egalitarianism are fine

Saying "FUCK STRAIGHT CIS SCUM" is bad, but sexual degeneracy and sodomy are okay

It's literally just tone policing. They want all the same shit as the SJWs, but just don't want it to be as obviously pushed. No, let's just go back to pushing it insidiously likje we did a decade or two ago. And no, I cannot tell if it's in bad faith or if they're just retarded.

>>308055

Leftism and Liberalism go hand in hand. Leftists are always a relatively small portion of people, but the majority of people holding liberal views is what allows them to push their views with no push-back. Perfect example being stuff like fag/tranny acceptance. Liberals are unable to argue against these things because their mindset is "hey man, do whatever you want!". This allows the leftists to come in and dominate.

Liberalism = leftism enabling

>>308059

>And no, I cannot tell if it's in bad faith or if they're just retarded.

The way I see it, their entire ideology revolves around a desire to be comfortable. They're just bugmen who don't like the idea of anyone judging, criticizing, or holding them to any standard whatsoever. In short, they just want to go back to the 90's-00's, when they could smoke pot, fap to cuckold porn with nipple clamps on, make fun of Christians, play video games and not get yelled or laughed at. Because they're so addicted to comfort, they see anyone who threatens it as an existential threat, be it SJWs, the alt-right or begrudgingly, Muslims. So, it's not that they actually disagree with SJWs on principle, but they dislike the fact that they're so aggressive about everything.

>just change the word "individualism to survival

The only political movements advocating for survival is neo-luddism and primitivism. As much disagreeable it is to be a wageslave and a rentcuk, it is far from any life and death situation.

>>308065

Funnily enough the commenter forgets to realize people didn't just wander through the wilderness alone, they lived in bands and tribes. He can go wander off alone into the woods and die if wants to be an enlightenment era individualist

For the record: This gets close to a topic that makes me want to punch myself sometimes; Internet meta.

>>307911

Amateur spook from gamergays days. He could be one of the good guys from revolt. Other than that, no idea.

>>307918

Spencer isn't an identarian but a racist pretending to be one.

>>307953

>>308019

Alternative theory: This shit is all a ebin troll by pro-Orthodox Russkies to prime the West for getting their Orthodox faith crammed down its throat.

>>307956

This. CPR may life in the 1970s rhetoric and design-wise. This doesn't mean he hasn't gained any wisdom about people.

>>307966

The begging phenomena was a side issue and caked as soon the gamergate board was in the hands of someone, who doesn't believe that all boards should be exactly like /b/.

>>307984

For the same reasons every manosphere podcast has 10 minute session during which the host shits his pants and does nothing but reading ads and breaking them with spontaneous stories related to the advertized shit; Because the bar is that extremely low.

>>308029

>i highly doubt this vore specialist is a lawyer/doctor.

The gypsie is a typical trustfund kind. The books in the background actually belong to his parents.

>>308069

Exactly. It's the same shit marxists do, where they claim marxist dialectical materialism is "scientific" and then they make up a ton of different pre-packaged definitions that allow them to circlejerk and huff their own farts while feeling high and mightly that people who haven't read Das Kapital don't use their terminology.

>PEOPLE ARE ALL EQUAL

>EQUAL OPPORTUNITY

>ONE HUMAN RACE

>INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS

>CIVIC NATIONALISM

>PRIVACY

>FREEDOM OF SPEECH

Imagine having this edgy of beliefs. How do they dare show their faces without fear of losing their jobs????

>>308067

>The books in the background actually belong to his parents.

If I remember correctly it's even worse. He inherited the whole house from his uncle or grandfather (don't remember which) and all those big smart men books were included in the inheritance since they were in the house. Don't get me wrong, I personally have no qualms about the concept of inheritance, but Vee is just strategically using his uncle's huge book collection to make himself appear well-read and he doesn't add anything to it so that someone down the line inherits all of this from him because he seems to use all his money to buy hentai games.

>>308063

Nailed it

They're just a bunch of 90s leftists who couldn't keep up with the perpetual revolution

What they fail to realize is that even if it was possible to go back to the political paradigm of that period it wouldn't last anyway just like it didn't last before, for it was all just a slippery slope to get here