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 No.944650

What was his fucking problem?

 No.944655

You.


 No.944656

>>944650

He grew up poor and watched his mom have sex with hundreds of guys.


 No.944665

He read an Ayn Rand book once.


 No.944666

>>944665

That was the other guy.


 No.944668

He saw his mom being fucked by a BBC and liked it now you can go back to /tv/


 No.944678

>>944668

But that's not Quentin Tarantino.


 No.944691

File: a4298a42a43abc0⋯.jpg (1.03 MB, 1988x3056, 497:764, a4298a42a43abc05796a7edd8d….jpg)

He found out he was gonna be replaced with a black guy.


 No.944694

>>944650

He was the only real hero in Watchmen, everyone else was either up their own ass with personal drama or outright conspiring to decieve and manipulate the world.

Rorschach was the only one who believed in objective truth and delivering real consequences to those who commit unforgivable acts.


 No.944719

>>944691

When did this shit happen?


 No.944724

>>944719

Doomsday Clock, check the DC thread.


 No.944728

>>944694

The author wanted his whole character arc to be about how wrong and ultimately useless that type was, struggling against the infinity of humanity. Which is retardedly derailed because he drove the whole plot and, realistically, 3-7 Rorschachs would have easily cleaned up New York. And in real life, complete apocalypse was adverted by consecutive nuclear disarmament treaties/New York was easily cleaned up by a single crime focused mayor.

Some people just have a really hard time comprehending that things are finite and you actually can solve giant societal problems just going case by case until it's solved, sometimes it's even just a group of assholes.


 No.944730

>>944650

he's irish


 No.944734

>>944728

I don't care what Moore intended if anything, but a peace based off of deception and outright conspiracy fills me with disgust.


 No.944756

>>944719

It's the Watchman/DC Universe crossover thing. It's made explicitly clear, even in the way he talks, that he's not the real Rorscach


 No.944758

File: 4ee4b007df0bef0⋯.jpg (50.83 KB, 856x569, 856:569, Rodrigo Duerte.jpg)

File: d2c5c897c34aa1e⋯.jpg (128.33 KB, 640x360, 16:9, Philippines.jpg)

>>944754

>Oh, you most certainly can, all it involves is killing a whole bunch of undesirables and freaks.

What a cartoonishly simple solution to a nuanced problem, that would never work in real life!


 No.944761

>>944758

>murder and homicide counted differently

What? Do you have a source for that image? I'd like to read any more detailed information; I wasn't aware Duterte's campaign had had such an effect.


 No.944763

>>944754

>If Moore's aim was to portray him in a negative light he fucked up badly.

I don't think that was Moore's aim, despite what people claim. Moore referred to him as probably the most moral character in the book


 No.944768


 No.944769

>>944734

It's supposed to be disgusting. Just look at the panels of post-alien New York.

But that doesn't necessarily imply that it should be revealed. He just committed mass murder to avert the apocalypse, and amazingly, it seems to work. There's a reasonable chance that revealing it would end up killing everyone on earth. Given that possibility, are you sure you would?


 No.944775

>>944771

Given Rorschach's journal, yes, but without it, I'm not so sure.

If it takes sufficiently long that the US and Russia get along well enough to truly be convinced that neither of them knew - maybe not.

Either way, I don't see a good reason for hastening it.


 No.944781

Didn't Rorschach write to President Harry Truman as a child, saying that the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombings were justified?


 No.944791

>>944781

I don't think he actually wrote to him, but

>>>/storytime/9307

>I like President Truman, the way Dad would of wanted me to. He dropped the atom bomb on Japan and saved millions of lives because if he hadn't of, then there would of been a lot more war than there was and more people would of been killed. I think it was a good thing to drop the atomic bomb on Japan.


 No.944807

>ugly ginger manlet bastard

>what went wrong??? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


 No.944818

File: 5a27eb93b2b7d3b⋯.jpg (127.06 KB, 600x600, 1:1, 1346861055450.jpg)

>often repeats the same phrases

>unusual eating or sleeping habits

>prefers to be alone

>low to no social skills


 No.944833

>>944730

>he's irish

With a hungarian name? That's a very bad combo…


 No.944837

>>944694

Wrong, he believed in what he wanted to believe. but the justice was his own personal drama, like mommy issues was with Miss Jupiter, and the heroes of childhood was with Owlman.

>>944728

Realistically speaking Rorschach would have been killed arrested in less than three month.

>>944754

Dr. Manhattan discovered and helped to develope new ways of clean energy, Ozzymandias made an economical empire and developed new ways of genetical manipulation, The Comedian fought against communist groups.


 No.944840

>>944837

>Realistically speaking

>In capeshit

No one cares.


 No.944842

>>944840

Well, it was an answer to an anon who said that realistically 7 rorschachs would clean new york.


 No.944844

The Comedian was the only real hero in the book.


 No.944929

>>944775

It seemed like even after the whole alien squid humanity would fight each other eventually because of human nature making Ozymandias' plans all for nought.


 No.944936

So wait why did a stubborn objectivist choose a subjective interpretation test as his symbol


 No.944938

>>944650

cynicism and a desire to do something about it


 No.944939

>>944936

Possibly because the Rorschach blots are black spots on a white background. In other words, while the image itself is subjective, it's either black or white.

Also irony


 No.944944

>>944936

I think it was to mock subjective interpretations of morality, justice, and heroes themselves. It could also be a subtle metaphor for what Moore thinks Mr. A is about. You can't really read or discuss Mr. A without your own and others subjective interpretations of "ink blots". Consider that both ink blots and comics are both just ink on paper.


 No.944945

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>>944650

>What was his fucking problem?

Go spend a few weeks on /pol/ and then you'll know.


 No.944949

>>944944

I remember reading somewhere he chose the inkblots as a symbol because they never touch each other or mix despite the white and black changing shape all the time.


 No.944950

>>944945

He was probably one of the best performances in that movie.


 No.944951

File: 4bf6e066d3a248c⋯.webm (5.71 MB, 480x360, 4:3, Alan Moore reading Watchm….webm)

>>944945

>Hack Snyder


 No.944952

>>944929

Well, Manhattan did tell ozymandias "Nothing ever ends".

>>944936

Because the colours swirl and flow around each other in that funny cloth he got from Kitty Genovese's party dress, but they never mix. He sees it as a metaphor for his own moral absolutism.

Maybe he was autistic. Jesus, he looks at an ink blot and sees an ink blot, ha!


 No.944956

>>944954

I wonder what that could mean? He compromises his own morals?


 No.944963

>>944758

>Petty crimes decreased.

>Felonies barely decreased, increased or stayed the same.

Yeah, it doesn't work, random people are getting killed for light shit while the hardcore criminals are still out if more cautious.

People already want him out of office because even teens are getting killed.


 No.944970

File: 62ee8efa1462e17⋯.jpg (590.44 KB, 1027x1600, 1027:1600, RCO022.jpg)

File: 42f935cf775a40b⋯.jpg (511.91 KB, 1027x1600, 1027:1600, RCO025.jpg)

>>944954

They never all touch at once. I'd say the shape change has more to do with his mood than anything. The two instances where the blots come together are both when Rorschach is angry about something


 No.944987

>>944956

Canonically, the cloth is heat sensitive, so he could just be losing his shit.


 No.944991

>>944650

Shouldn't you know? I thought all anons are nazis nowadays.


 No.944995

File: 65c07c747df464b⋯.jpg (14.32 KB, 480x270, 16:9, AbeOik6.jpg)


 No.945014

>>944936

Because he's not a moral realist. He makes an edgy speech about it at some point. He says there's nothing except the order we impose ourselves. He also describes his mask as white and black, changing positions, but never mixing - he's strict about applying his morals, but he doesn't claim they're the only objectively correct ones.

I'm guessing that sets him apart from Mr. A.


 No.945019

>>944756

But he knows a thing or two about Rorschach's past.


 No.945020

>>944970

>1st pic

I never noticed the use of colors in those panels until now.


 No.945021

File: cdedf81dc6bffda⋯.jpg (68.64 KB, 584x365, 8:5, Archie-watchmen-concept-ar….jpg)

File: 8bdb3723a904f48⋯.jpg (37.95 KB, 600x640, 15:16, dr_manhattan02.jpg)

>>944951

Thanks to Snyder movie was as faithful to the comic as it was. He threw out older scripts and supposedly fought with producers to keep as much stuff from the comic in as possible. Some of the bullshit included in previous drafts:

>putting Watchmen in modern times

>making movie a criticism of the Bush era U.S.

>changing message to be pro-enviornment and discarding politics and moral issues completely

>adding time travel to Ozzy's plan

>removing the Minutemen from the story

>Black Freighter completely being ignored

>Removing team's backstory, and turning it into a generic cape film

>Giving the film a futuristic aesthetic

>Silk Spectre having superpowers

>Most of the team having superpowers

>Everyone getting cancer from Dr. Manhattan

>Shitty casting choice, like Schwartzenegger as Dr. Manhattan, Simon Pegg as Rorschach, etc.

Watchmen got off easy with Snyder. Every other considered concept I have seen was absolute shit, regardless of the pedigree of people involved. For example, Terry Gilliam wanted to downplay superhero aspects even further and focus on the effects that Dr. Manhattan had on society when he appeared. Ozzy's final plan would include time travel to prevent Dr. Manhattan from ever being created. Gillam's film would end with Watchmen story being turned from reality into a hit comic, and heroes becoming a times-square impersonators of "The Watchmen."

Bad parts of the Snyder's film are mostly leftovers from the Hayter's script. He was the one who came up with using explosions instead of the Squid and removing some of the bitterness from the original ending. At least Snyder managed to get money to make Black Freighter animation and kept out most bad ideas that studio wanted to include.

Here is an article describing some of the previous concepts:

http://archive.is/ibVh6

I can't find other article. It had concept art, links to the scrips, treatments, excerpts, and rumors.


 No.945025

>>945021

I'll never say the film was a bad adaptation. Snyder was the perfect choice for it because he fucking hates super heroes apparently. Too bad it made people think he would make good superhero movies.


 No.945026

>>945021

But Moore said that Hayter's script was the closest anyone was going to get to Watchmen. There is something to be said for updating the setting


 No.945034

I don't know, I'm not a psychologist. All I know is that everything about him was off-putting.


 No.945050

I just started reading this comic and I can already tell he's a extremist conservative.

I wasn't sure when he called out the degeneracy of society but he sucks Comedian cock like a pro, even though he was a fucking degenerate.


 No.945083

>>944952

>he looks at an inkblot and sees an inkblot

But isn't that correct? In a way is autism not more sane and realistic?


 No.945099

File: c6a355f62fb03e6⋯.jpg (80.79 KB, 500x282, 250:141, I have special eyes.jpg)

>>944970

>That first picture

>Those uses of color

>That last panel with red

>You can practically taste the fucking rage.

Every fucking time I see something new. Every fucking time.


 No.945100


 No.945105

>>945099

John Higgings' work as a colorist is underrated


 No.945124

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>944650

lest it be forgotten


 No.945126

>>944963

>only felonies are important

Bad attitude to take. Also I wonder if the felony spike included some of the terrorist activities down there.


 No.945305

>>944691

Dem niggas afraid o' me. I have peep dat shitz fo' realz face. Tha ghettos r' hood as fuck n' r' filled wit' bloodz n' cripz, n' when the fuck tha welfare checks run out, all dem niggas gonna drown…Da hunna filth o' all their muthafuckin' sex n' murda gotta foam the fuck up 'bout their muthafuckin' waists n' all da hos n' tricks gotta look the fuck up n' shout "save us!"

N' I whisper…"Shiieet."


 No.946348

>>944728

>by consecutive nuclear disarmament treaties

>Not by kikes who knew the world was never in danger in the first place, but just wanted to create an atmosphere of fear so the goyim would pour shekels into the mil industrial complex.


 No.951101

>>945099

>>944970

and meanwhile the fucking movie's color was drowned out in the ugly blue color grading that zach snyder seems to love


 No.951142

>>946348

>Commies Dindu Nuffin


 No.951166

>>951101

Yeah but anon, if you have colors in your movie it might confuse your audience. How are they going to understand the subtle undertones portrayed by the actors and the dialogue if they're too distracted by a half-decent color palette?


 No.953429

>>951166

that's why you buy it on blu ray and enable subtitles dummy


 No.954379

>>944666

You’re right Satan. That would be Mr. A, which was Steve Ditko’s Ayn Rand inspired Chick tract comic.




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