/co/ - Comics & Cartoons

Every art house director that spouts philosophical nonsense just wants to keep reinventing the wheel instead of improving on past designs. It's fine if you wanna do a more grounded take on a street hero like Batman. But to remove what makes certain characters who they are completely ruins the character. Scarecrow is the only one that resembles his comic self. Ra's is just some guy, Joker is an op hobo that somehow can do anything he wants, and Bane is just some bald guy speaking like a 30s villain twirling his mustache. These aren't accurate depictions of the character ideas whatsoever.

>>1040364

It's not just The Dark Knight. The Fantastic Four sort of tried to do this with Dr. Doom (with the opposite result) and Spider-Man 2, as much as I love it, kinda did the same with Dr. Octopus but unlike TDK and TFF, it actually worked there because the comic Doc Ock is kind of a flat character so you can only go up when reinventing him.

Joker has been a "serious" character ever since the Killing Joke, with mixed results. The writers who make him a super edgy tryhard mass murderer with no sensible motivation because he's "crazy" are the fucking worst and the reason why Joker is now the face of the gangweed meme.

But stories that make Joker like an anarchist or a paragon of chaos are fine with him. They've been doing that since the silver age. The idea that he embodies chaos and discord is a perfectly valid and interesting take on the character, even if it bad writers take the easy way out with it.

>>1040397

I always liked the BTAS version of him. It felt like a good balance between his funny side and his more malicious side. It also helped that he could snap on a dime like that.

DC's insistence on having their movies be "dark" and "realistic" is the reason why Marvel continues to btfo them at the box office. Normalfags don’t want to watch pretentious “deconstructions” of things. More often than not, they just want some dumb action movie that they can watch and turn their brains off for two hours. The reason why Nolan’s movies seemed to be the exception to this is because A) his movies were still action movies with plenty of explosions and fighting, B) “dark” Batman had been done before, so people were at least somewhat used to it, C) Batman has always been a relatively realistic setting when left on its own, so it’s not as jarring as when you do the same thing to Superman, D) people were glad to see something Batman that wasn’t the shitty 90s Batman movies, and E) The Dark Knight got jerked off quite a bit by the sorts of people who do like pretentious deconstruction of things.