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For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
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The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?

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181380  No.786196

Are we atleast in agreement here that the Pretrib rapture is heretical bollocks?

a25274  No.786204

I agree, but pretrib in general is a valid enough view (although I'm amill). It's just hard to find pretribs who don't buy the whole John Hagee schtick wholesale.


8a3980  No.786211

>>786196

From reading raptureposting, it seems like shill propaganda that ignorant people believe.


96e804  No.786215

>>786211

> ignorant people believe.

Yeah, they're called Evangelicals.


207eec  No.786216

>1000 years

Hellooo, Chiliasm, you're looking lovely in your Evangelicalist clothes today…

https://orthodoxwiki.org/Chiliasm More links and info from here.


a76f0b  No.786296

>>786196

>rapture symbol looks like a bait fishhook

wew


8404cf  No.786384

>>786216

I mean, it says it right there in the text. It refers to 1,000 literal years on the present earth BEFORE the devil is cast into the Lake of Fire, and Heaven and Earth are remade. Then He will reign forever.


207eec  No.786567

>>786384

>literal

M8, the Bible uses that to mean "many" as a figure of speech a few times. Also, some interpret the present age as figuring into it, being the age of the Church.


f42f76  No.786570

>>786567

It says a thousand six times in six verses of Rev 20:2-7

2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,

3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.

4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

χίλια (chilia) - a thousand

Where is this used metaphorically elsewhere?

2 Peter 3 says like a thousand years, which is a simile


bc7e22  No.786579

>>786570

I must have argued a thousand times about this already…


f42f76  No.786581

>>786579

Ok, reach into your argument repository and produce the instances where a thousand is clearly figurative, especially with this greek word




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