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For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
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The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?

Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.

81f1ac  No.785140

It's a long video, but it interests me from the uncommon Atheist's perspective. I was wondering what your take on it is. I would say the video isn't the usual atheist trolling.

>37:16

8d8e8a  No.785195

File: fb00a236bc8fae7⋯.gif (496.84 KB, 250x140, 25:14, 1411264608611.gif)

bump, Don't let the length and thumbnail scare you, it's actually interesting!


9f43bb  No.785219

>>785195

Sorry but I could care less about e-celebs.


97f406  No.785235

Nah, I will skip Gimli’s young fedora cousin…


a482bc  No.785270

Don't think the "Darth" dude did a great job, when he argued that the reason he could trust his reason was because God exists, I'm guessing he's a protestant and doesn't have much knowledge of Aristotle, Aquinas or Descartes. However around 23-24 he gets to the heart of the matter. Destiny says Darth's presuppositions are unjustified, Darth then asks him whether that claim is a product of his reason, which he says yes to, while at the same time claiming that trusting in one's reason is unjustified. Darth also asks whether his reason is justified, to which he answers yes, and here Destiny is caught red handed. In his view, trusting in one's reason for the sake of denying Darth's worldview is justified, but when it comes to proving God exists through logic it is suddenly not justified.

Also in his rambling at the end, he keeps repeating that we can't "truly know" anything, but he doesn't say anything about what it actually means to "truly know" something.

Again he's using the last-ditch escape of Solipsism. Darth was right in pointing out that his argument was basically "I don't know", and he didn't want to admit it.


ce6e73  No.785356

>>785270

>catholics unironically see themselves as the continuation of Aristotle

If you agree there is such thing as logic without God, you're an atheist.


43311e  No.785457

>>785270

>I'm guessing he's a protestant and doesn't have much knowledge of Aristotle, Aquinas or Descartes.

Can you recommend me some of their lit that is related to Christianity.

>However around 23-24 he gets to the heart of the matter. Destiny says Darth's presuppositions are unjustified, Darth then asks him whether that claim is a product of his reason, which he says yes to, while at the same time claiming that trusting in one's reason is unjustified.

Even if trusting one's reason is unjustified, i thought the example of a child having an unknown sense of knowing was a good cover.

>Darth also asks whether his reason is justified, to which he answers yes, and here Destiny is caught red handed. In his view, trusting in one's reason for the sake of denying Darth's worldview is justified, but when it comes to proving God exists through logic it is suddenly not justified.

That is a good point.

>Again he's using the last-ditch escape of Solipsism.

>solipsism holds that knowledge of anything outside one's own mind is unsure; the external world and other minds cannot be known and might not exist outside the mind. As a metaphysical position, solipsism goes further to the conclusion that the world and other minds do not exist. This extreme position is claimed to be irrefutable, as the solipsist believes themself to be the only true authority, all others being creations of their own mind.

solipsism sounds like an insanity where nothing is real outside of one's mind.




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