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>>775034

Thank you

This will give you a pretty good rundown of Orthodoxy and how it compares to the others:

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLbDsxw-e0m3mIkapUEZ_-5BEOr19F4t73

>>775044

Thank you

>>775046

Ok Thank you

>>775034

>Actually, history didn't happen like it happened!

>>775066

Thank you

>>775034

>never follow the fallible words of men

>but follow the words of men who were inspired by the Spirit to write the word of God in the Bible

>the Spirit which has been transmitted to them by Christ and continues to be

Oh…

>>775092

>inb4 someone says I said the bible itself was fallible.

>>775092

It was written by fallible men but they were guided by God when writing it. 2 Timothy 3:16 says all scripture was God breathed, it is truly God's word whether it was written by fallible men or not.

>>775092

I'm catholic, and this argument is terrible and heretical.

What you should have mentioned is that the Holy Spirit didn't suddenly stop informing what certain men say after the Apostles died. To say otherwise is to suggest that God has abandoned us.

If the Holy spirit didn't inform certain men in particular there would be no need for priests, preachers, etc. But since protestants also have those, clearly they believe this to be the case.

>>775107

>I'm catholic, and this argument is terrible and heretical.

None of what I said comes against the guidance of the church by the holy spirit.

It was a quip. and it wasn't wrong (technically)

>>775100

>2 Timothy 3:16 says all scripture was God breathed, it is truly God's word whether it was written by fallible men or not.

That's right, but that doesn't mean the bible is all encompassing.

>>775109

It's not technically wrong, but the way you used it was. The dude who replied to you was right to point out what you were implying. I'd rather not perpetuate the stereotype that Catholics don't know/have proper Biblical Theology.

Men are indeed fallible, which is exactly why we need the guidance of the Holy Spirit and the Grace of God. A more proper way of saying this would be to say that the Bible is the infallible Word of God transmitted through fallible men by the guidance of the Holy Spirit.

>>775113

>It's not technically wrong, but the way you used it was.

alright say that instead of sperging out and calling people heretics.

>>775109

They're wrong because what they are implying is that just because you're listening to another person means you aren't guided by the Holy Spirit, which is ridiculous.

Ignoring people who come to Catholicism based off of a personal interpretation of scripture such as myself , they're implying that just because you're listening to a teacher or theologian you are inherently not being guided by the Holy Spirit, which is false.

>>775114

>alright say that instead of sperging out and calling people heretics.

The worst kind of heresy is subtle heresy. I reacted as quickly and as fervently as I did because falsehoods founded on truth are the most likely to lead people astray, and therefore must be dealt with as such. Same approach the Church Fathers had to heresy.

>>775113

I also added an inb4 saying that I knew the bible infallible. I was criticizing the other anon since I thought he implied since men are fallible, tradition is fallible.

>>775112

Have you read the verse right after that?

>>775116

Last Note: When I say "personal interpretation of scripture," I mean without any foreknowledge of established doctrine. Not personal in a literal sense.

I didn't know denominational ideologies prior to reading scripture, so when I looked at the doctrines of each I went with the one that was most in line with what I felt the meaning of scripture was (an interpretation which I attribute to the grace of God).

Last post since I have to leave soon, but I believe what I said wasnt heresy given the proper context. It was unwise for me to meme in a serious thread. OP, listen to nothing I said before since it has caused confusion.

>>775027

Since you'll inevitably come across the issue of which bible translation to use as well, I'll just leave this here:

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLKXGJjRU-bTV8i7pQ700Z4Jkw0WN1djiO