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>>769704

Why do women make that weird face

>>769822

God established borders, and not once did he ever say they are to be abolished.

>Anime pic

>Stupid opinion

>>769704

>mormon

>says deus vult

>op goes ape

you sell yourself cheap, /christian/

you're a disappointment

>>769840

>Im an ancap

>Anime poster

Like pottery

>>769833

It’s the liberal government that does so. The same liberal government that hates the concept of borders.

>>769848

>It’s the liberal government that does so. The same liberal government that hates the concept of borders.

>Drops MOAB

>Attacks syria

>arms terrorist

>increase military spending

>increase surveillance

"I-i swear i-its the libtards !!!!!"

>>769854

None of that has to do with open borders. Go back to Mexico, nobody likes your stench.

>>769856

Not an argument

>>769858

As much a non-argument as anything you posted. Liberals have no self-preservation instincts. That’s why they are big chasers, substance abusers, welcome invaders into their homes, murder their own children, and lack even basic hygiene.

>>769861

>https://www.biblestudytools.com/rhe/1-corinthians/15.html

>Afterwards the end: when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God and the Father: when he shall have brought to nought all principality and power and virtue

>https://www.biblestudytools.com/rhe/luke/14.html

>26 If any man come to me, and hate not his father and mother and wife and children and brethren and sisters, yea and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple

He also turned over the tables of the money-changing elite and whipped them. These money-changing elite then had him arrested and executed.

The church is the only authority. Any arguments that Christianity has acknowledged the authority of kings is bunk, because Jesus said to give everything you own to the poor;

>https://www.biblestudytools.com/rhe/matthew/19.html

>21 Jesus saith to him: If thou wilt be perfect, go sell what thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, follow me. 22 And when the young man had heard this word, he went away sad: for he had great possessions. 23 Then Jesus said to his disciples: Amen, I say to you, that a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven.

No Christian should have more than he needs to live. He must live hand-to-mouth;

>https://www.biblestudytools.com/rhe/luke/10.html

>4 Carry neither purse, nor scrip, nor shoes: and salute no man by the way.

There shouldn't be Christian kings to obey - they should have given up their wealth and become poor.

Only the church has to be obeyed.

>>769862

I bow to Jesus, not a man. No rich person has my respect. No nation is my master.

Unless the Catholic church said it, it's not law to me.

>>769826

>God established borders

lol … no.

>>769877

see: Tower of Babel

>>769877

And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation;

Acts 17:26

>>769877

Go read the Exodus, then Chronicles and Kings.

>>769878

God destroyed Babel because man's unity was a cause of pride for us;

>https://www.biblestudytools.com/rhe/genesis/11.html

>4 And they said: Come, let us make a city and a tower, the top whereof may reach to heaven; and let us make our name famous before we be scattered abroad into all lands.

>>769704

>Looks like she's in her mid-to-late 40's, probably only 30-35

Nah thanks m8.

>>769891

>>769878

>>769877

The statement was "God established borders", but that's disingenuous. If God established borders, then which ones did he establish for, oh say, Texas?

Man makes borders. God makes nations.

Nation != Border

>>769899

Nations must defend their own borders. The land of Israel was given a border, and Israel perished when they failed to drive out other nations as they were commanded.

>>769873

God did give authority to kings. All power is divinely established by God

>mormon

>supports baby first nationalism (m-m-muh state is God!) instead of religious nationalism where only God fearing Christians are allowed

This whore of babylon isn't a Christian to start with and basically, you're a horrible person if you support her.

>>769915

Now calling her a whore is disingenuous. And the Whore of Babylon is the actual city of Jerusalem anyway.

>>769918

She uses social media, she posts pictures of herself, she tries to get attention, she's an e-whore in every sense of the word.

Ergo it is correct to call her what she is, a whore that doesn't know what she's talking about and a dirty statist who wants God to be replaced by the State.

>>769840

>I'm a hoppean ancap

God and Mammon

>>769911

>https://www.biblestudytools.com/rhe/1-corinthians/15.html

>Afterwards the end: when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God and the Father: when he shall have brought to nought all principality and power and virtue

God is going to destroy principality;

>https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/principality

>(obsolete) The state of being a prince or ruler; sovereignty, absolute authority. [14th-19th c.]

Jesus said you had to give up your wealth to follow him;

>https://www.biblestudytools.com/rhe/matthew/19.html

>21 Jesus saith to him: If thou wilt be perfect, go sell what thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, follow me. 22 And when the young man had heard this word, he went away sad: for he had great possessions. 23 Then Jesus said to his disciples: Amen, I say to you, that a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven.

He also told the Apostles to take nothing with them;

>https://www.biblestudytools.com/rhe/luke/10.html

>4 Carry neither purse, nor scrip, nor shoes: and salute no man by the way.

How more obvious does the Bible have to make it; Wealth keeps you from Heaven, God promised to destroy all kings, and Jesus told you to walk in his name without scrip;

>https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/scrip

>A small medieval bag used to carry food, money, utensils etc.

>(archaic) Small change

We only have to obey the church. No one else has any authority on Earth.

>>769845

That's not anime though.

>>769926

>How more obvious does the Bible have to make it; Wealth keeps you from Heaven, God promised to destroy all kings, and Jesus told you to walk in his name without scrip;

It was also a rich man who helped bury Jesus. It isn't wealth on it's own that's bad - it's the pride and sense of self-reliance and lack of dependency on God that makes it hard for a rich man to enter heaven (but Jesus didn't say it was impossible either. He said it was hard.. and it's this pride that does many of them in).

>>769926

You are preaching that every christian must be poor, that is anabaptist heresy.

"Jesus answered, "You would have no power over me if it were not given to you from above. Therefore the one who handed me over to you is guilty of a greater sin."

This is Jesus speaking to Pilate

"let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God"

muh anarchism

>>769822

I don't think God wants my children to be raped by tiggers and arabs, thanks.

Jesus is also called King of Kings and Lord of Lords. Not King who destroys all kings and Lord who destroys all lords. Barabbas was the rebel the murderers of Jesus wanted. They didn't want the King of the Jews instead.

>>769926

Going to =/= already has

>tiggers

Disgusting

>>769928

Yes it is

It's an animation in the Japanese anime style, even if it's from a degenerate cripple sex game

>>769958

No it's not, it is made in the west ergo it isn't anime.

That's like saying the King James Bible is french because france ruled England once.

>>769929

>It was also a rich man who helped bury Jesus

Rich men (The money-changing Pharisees) delivered Jesus into the hands of another rich man (Pontius Pilate) so he could be killed.

>It isn't wealth on it's own that's bad

True - it's loving the world that's bad;

>https://www.biblestudytools.com/rhe/john/15.html

>18 If the world hate you, know ye that it hath hated me before you.

>19 If you had been of the world, the world would love its own: but because you are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.

You can't be 'of the world' and be a Christian.

>it's the pride and sense of self-reliance and lack of dependency on God that makes it hard for a rich man to enter heaven (but Jesus didn't say it was impossible either. He said it was hard.. and it's this pride that does many of them in)

No, rich men are just more prone to ADDITIONAL sins like pride, on top of loving the world.

>>769931

>let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God"

What version are you using? The oldest only mention God;

>https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Romans%2013:1

>https://www.biblestudytools.com/rhe/romans/13.html

>1 Let every soul be subject to higher powers. For there is no power but from God: and those that are ordained of God. 2 Therefore, he that resisteth the power resisteth the ordinance of God. And they that resist purchase to themselves damnation. 3 For princes are not a terror to the good work, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? Do that which is good: and thou shalt have praise from the same.

>8 Owe no man any thing, but to love one another. For he that loveth his neighbour hath fulfilled the law.

Romans 12 puts this in context;

>https://www.biblestudytools.com/rhe/romans/12.html

>1 I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercy of God, that you present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, pleasing unto God, your reasonable service

You're not even supposed to value your body.

Also these verses;

>https://www.biblestudytools.com/rhe/matthew/5.html

>3 Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven

>4 Blessed are the meek: for they shall possess the land.

>https://www.biblestudytools.com/rhe/matthew/20.html

>16 So shall the last be first and the first last. For many are called but few chosen.

So, Jesus or his Apostles said;

1: To be perfect, give your wealth to the poor,

2: Blessed are the poor in spirit,

3: Go without scrip (Without money,)

4: A camel can get through the eye of a needle easier than a rich man can get into Heaven.

Have a nice day.

>muh anarchism

I'll pray for you.

>>769961

Anime is a style, not a trademark

>>769822

I pick both.

>>770001

Yes, the verse still mentions princes. Look i wont argue any further since i reject sola scriptura and accept the interpretation of the church. Meanwhile why havent you given out your computer or phone and live in poverty?

>>770088

Also the verse clearly talks about political power, and those who are in positions of power, i.e autorities, as to the other things you've said, i've no reason to reason with an anabaptist.

>i'll pray for you

oh yes, please do pray that i may accept the anarchist doctrine and get saved.

>>770009

>muh Poland

When will this meme end ? Try visit Poland instead ?

>>769840

>posting reaction image based on a pornographic game in a christian board

AYOO HOLUP

LEMME OPEN MY BIBLE BLACK REACTION FOLDER

>>770400

>posting reaction image based on a pornographic game in a christian board

Sorry but I was not aware of it.

>>770420

Kek, where are you saving this from? I saw people post CP anime reaction images too thinking it's from a normal anime

>>770191

Good argument man

>It's another "communist tries his hand at preaching" episode

>>770422

Got it from 4chan /ck/ board tbh

>>770734

The Bible affirms the libertarian idea of the state

>>770912

Prove it, I want to see your mental gymnastics

>>770915

Ok, here's the short version

First let's understand that the Bible affirms private property and the NAP in the form of the second greatest commandment, "I love your neighbor as yourself"

Here's what the state is

>Briefly, the State is that orga-nization in society which attempts to maintain a monopoly of the use of force and violence in a given territorial area; in particular, it is the only organization in society that obtains its revenue not by voluntary contribution or payment for services rendered but by coercion.

Rothbard, anatomy of the state

Because the state only exists by imposition, it is a breach of "love your neighbor as yourself". I am coerced to pay tribute to the state under the threat of force, be it property tax, social security, income tax and so on. Jesus famously turns the pharisees's trick back on them in the "render until Caesar" story under the moral premise that Caesar and his regime are an immoral entity that shouldn't be supported. They try to catch him in contradiction with God's word by supporting the Roman state, or catch him in contradiction with the Roman state and so they could presumably get him jailed for treason.

So, coercuon is immoral and unloving. I can not force someone to buy bread from me under the threat of force. The state equally is wrong to use the threat of force against me, if it's going beyond the bounds of keeping me from infringing on the rights of others.

When you reduce or eliminate all the roles of state government, everything is still governed just without this monopoly on force. You no longer have a postmaster general, you have a local president of the UPS or FedEx. You

no longer have a railroad commissioner, you have CEOs of railroad companies. Everyone can use whatever arbitrary method they want to decide any given leader, like voting or a contest or choosing one family to lead every generation like princes.

>>770930

>extrapolates one passage to fit your worldview

>doesn't bother with the rest of the Bible

Pride is one hell of a disease.

>>770191

>muh fascizmz

Democracy - the state of affairs where money, press and votes hold power. Democracy naturally creates plutocracy which ends up as a reign of mammon.

In order to "protect the right order of things" press is censored from free thought of "anti-democratic" thinking. Therefore press becomes censored, the press determines the votes, money makes law makers outlaw dissenting voices. Thus the current state of things.

Communism makes no bones about "being free". Democracy makes the illusion in order to consolidate power but Communism usurps it immediately. Again censoring press, no votes are allowed just in case and private property is abolished.

Therefore one can easily claim communism is just late stage democracy especially if you consider the ideas of "secularism" and "atheism". etc. In one system Christians are purged outright, in the other they are purged in the name of "social justice", inclusion of sodomites etc. because apparently christians are not progressive enough.

>but muh fascizmz guyz

Do you have any argument at all apart from "fascizmz"?

>>769822

>Anime pic

>open border faggotry

guys I see a pattern here

Wew lad. You clearly convinced me. I am ready to wave the equality flags and open my country to be destroyed by Africans and to spit on the graves of my ancestors by marrying one myself.

>Implying the scripture is positive about nationalism

Implying it isn't

Implying it condemns nationalism

>Is it not the government who kills unborn baby and snatch your wealth to bomb kids in foreign nation in the name of democracy ?

You mean the same shit system that wants to mix everyone up and destroy nations?

All right mate. you really thought your arguments through.

You came from /r/christianity?

>>770945

Your post is one hell of a non argument

>>770903

Facist regimes almost always last under 100 years, monarchies last for thousands.

>>current monarchs are shit

>implying any facist regimes have been good

The current British monarchy is essentially just a figurehead.

Eh. The whole "white baby challenge" is being fruitful and multiplying but it should also apply to nonwhites because racism isn't Christian. She isn't explicitly against nonwhites reproducing, but why would she specifically promote it solely for whites?

>tfw I see /fascist/ and /monarchy/ christanons arguing which is better

>tfw they should be colluding together to help their nation and people find God and the prosperity He brings for a Godfearing nation.

Together we can fight the (((synagogue of satan))) and his vile religion (((communism/socialism/anarchy))).

>>771155 (tripple doubles)

>why is she specifically promoting only whites

Because she is a Mormon. She isn't even christian.

>>771155

>>771160

So true. Don't forget to say blackies and Mexicans are included too otherwise you're racist. In fact they should be more encouraged to show the lack of racism. We need more starving Africans who can't feed themselves and haitans who eat mud cookies.

>>771155

First because it should be a white country.

Second because it is whites that are targeted for replacement.

>>771155

There are 5 people, one of whom is anorexic, the other 4 are eating normally. You encourage the anorexic to eat more, but imagine that whenever you do, people start screaming about how overeating is wrong and unhealthy.

It's almost like they don't want the anorexic to get healthy.

The world hates Christians, but it hates Whites too. Being a Christian doesn't preclude you from recognizing and resisting White Genocide.

>>769822

Paradise wouldn't be paradise if it was full of bad people. It has to be exclusive to good people to be a good place. I see creating a good nation by keeping out bad people as honoring the same principle.

>>769873

I think the parable of the master who leaves his servants with some money and expects them to have more when he returns makes it pretty clear that christianity is not about being poor.

Jesus told one specific guy that he needed to give all his things away. Because he specifically, was a rich guy, who just wanted to be able to check off the "Im a good guy" box from his list of achievements to feel pride about, without really sacrificing anything for it. So he basically asked Jesus "What does it cost to buy a good-people-card?", and Jesus responded "everything you have". To be good you have to give yourself completely to God, but that doesn't mean you can't have many assets, all of those assets just have to be put to work for God.

The thing about not carrying any purse or shoes, was also for a specific group of people, not a commandment to all.

>Mormon

>H-hey /po– er -/christian/ what do you think about this BASED Satanist?

>a Mormon

>/ourgirl/

Absolutely not. She needs to be evangelized.

>>769873

>>769926

>>770001

It's so weird how I've never met an actual Christian who twists scripture in this way, but every single little leftist atheist faggot that wants Christians to be weak and not resist evil uses these exact same tactics.

>le politically outspoken tradwife meme

Didnt she "used to" be a lesbian?

>>771332

I really hope no one on this board thinks Mormons are Christians

>herpa derp mormon

wow….just…WOW….you guys are Christian SJWs. This is why there is so much disunity and infighting between all types of Christians and denominations and exactly the same thing that I see happening with the right and left wing. I thought you were better!

>>771558

To be fair as you know the second pic is the antichrist and the devil. You know, in the book of revelation there definitely is a Trinity of devils, there are two beasts and the AntiChrist. Malachi Martin apparently said that Lucifer is like the Father, Satan is like the Holy Spirit and the AntiChrist is like Christ. I remember realizing there was an unholy trinity (although they are separate beings instead of one being), and we always hear that the devil tries to ape/imitate go

>>771565

>believe in absolute batty nonscripture

>wonder why Christians want nothing to do with you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6Dub7kjCys