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For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
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The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?

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5b2a36  No.767367

Why did jesus get voluntarily crucified?

and how did it redeem humanity?

5195a5  No.767368

>>767367

Because the only way for sin to be paid for is by death. No amount of sacrifices of sheep or oxen can pay of the debt we have, since the sacrifices are imperfect. The only way for mankind to be redeemed was by the death of someone wholly innocent and completely perfect. The only perfect thing in existence is God. So He took our sins upon Himself and died in our place to pay our debt, and resurrected to show His authority over death and that His claims of divinity were true.


fae210  No.767410

>>767368

/thread.


33e073  No.767436

>>767368

/thread


f82a29  No.767588

By dying on the cross, Christ saved humanity. It reconciled man with God and opened up the Kingdom of Heaven for all. This was an event known as "atonement".

We know this because Christ said it. It was revealed in scripture.

What wasn't revealed was the exact mechanics of how atonement works. But there are no shortage of theories.

"Ransom theory", "Christus Victor", "Satisfaction theory" and "Penal substitute theory" are some of the more popular theories.

you can research atonement theory for more information.


5a5b1b  No.767640

>>767588

Why didn't humanity just stop dying after the resurrection instead of still needing to die and wait for their own resurrections? That's always been something I didn't quite get.


a7dd0f  No.767649

>>767640

>why didn't humanity just stop dying after the resurrection

because the world as we know it has not yet met its end. Christ didn't say the world would end with Him, but He did say that the hour is known by the Father, and Christ would be among us (in the Church) until the end of the Age.

if you want to know WHY humanity is still born, it is because the number of mankind to be created is not finished.


790790  No.767943

Jesus came to defeat sin, death, and the devil. he defeated sin by never sinning, he defeated death by raising from the dead, and he defeated the devil by casting him into the lake of fire. through his crucifixion, he, in a way, became sin, in order to defeat it and liberate us from slavery to sin. how exactly it redeemed humanity is mysterious, but we should always have confidence and faith that it did.


b36eba  No.768106

>>767367

Jesus was voluntarily crucified because love demanded it. Love is a thankless self negation in service of the truth. Even Socrates was brought to that point.

https://www.gutenberg.org/files/1672/1672-h/1672-h.htm

>SOCRATES: Do not repeat the old story—that he who likes will kill me and get my money; for then I shall have to repeat the old answer, that he will be a bad man and will kill the good, and that the money will be of no use to him, but that he will wrongly use that which he wrongly took, and if wrongly, basely, and if basely, hurtfully.

>CALLICLES: How confident you are, Socrates, that you will never come to harm! you seem to think that you are living in another country, and can never be brought into a court of justice, as you very likely may be brought by some miserable and mean person.

>SOCRATES: Then I must indeed be a fool, Callicles, if I do not know that in the Athenian State any man may suffer anything. And if I am brought to trial and incur the dangers of which you speak, he will be a villain who brings me to trial—of that I am very sure, for no good man would accuse the innocent. Nor shall I be surprised if I am put to death. Shall I tell you why I anticipate this?

>CALLICLES: By all means.

>SOCRATES: I think that I am the only or almost the only Athenian living who practises the true art of politics; I am the only politician of my time. Now, seeing that when I speak my words are not uttered with any view of gaining favour, and that I look to what is best and not to what is most pleasant, having no mind to use those arts and graces which you recommend, I shall have nothing to say in the justice court. And you might argue with me, as I was arguing with Polus:—I shall be tried just as a physician would be tried in a court of little boys at the indictment of the cook. What would he reply under such circumstances, if some one were to accuse him, saying, 'O my boys, many evil things has this man done to you: he is the death of you, especially of the younger ones among you, cutting and burning and starving and suffocating you, until you know not what to do; he gives you the bitterest potions, and compels you to hunger and thirst. How unlike the variety of meats and sweets on which I feasted you!' What do you suppose that the physician would be able to reply when he found himself in such a predicament? If he told the truth he could only say, 'All these evil things, my boys, I did for your health,' and then would there not just be a clamour among a jury like that? How they would cry out!

>CALLICLES: I dare say.

>SOCRATES: Would he not be utterly at a loss for a reply?

>CALLICLES: He certainly would.

>SOCRATES: And I too shall be treated in the same way, as I well know, if I am brought before the court. For I shall not be able to rehearse to the people the pleasures which I have procured for them, and which, although I am not disposed to envy either the procurers or enjoyers of them, are deemed by them to be benefits and advantages. And if any one says that I corrupt young men, and perplex their minds, or that I speak evil of old men, and use bitter words towards them, whether in private or public, it is useless for me to reply, as I truly might:—'All this I do for the sake of justice, and with a view to your interest, my judges, and to nothing else.' And therefore there is no saying what may happen to me.

>CALLICLES: And do you think, Socrates, that a man who is thus defenceless is in a good position?

>SOCRATES: Yes, Callicles, if he have that defence, which as you have often acknowledged he should have—if he be his own defence, and have never said or done anything wrong, either in respect of gods or men; and this has been repeatedly acknowledged by us to be the best sort of defence. And if any one could convict me of inability to defend myself or others after this sort, I should blush for shame, whether I was convicted before many, or before a few, or by myself alone; and if I died from want of ability to do so, that would indeed grieve me. But if I died because I have no powers of flattery or rhetoric, I am very sure that you would not find me repining at death. For no man who is not an utter fool and coward is afraid of death itself, but he is afraid of doing wrong. For to go to the world below having one's soul full of injustice is the last and worst of all evils.




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